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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Kyo on Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:37 pm

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64231/

    Aviastar completed the modernization of the 10th Ruslan for the MOD.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  George1 on Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:34 pm

    AN-124 "Ruslan" delivered to Niger NH-90 helicopter





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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:30 pm

    What is Niger doing with NH-90 and for what purpose?

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:43 am

    Werewolf wrote:What is Niger doing with NH-90 and for what purpose?

    They are French actually. "France has deployed its NHIndustries NH90 Caiman helicopters on operations for the first time, with two helicopters arriving in Gao on 3 November to take part in France's Operation 'Barkhane' in Mali.

    The helicopters are from the 1er Régiment d'Hélicoptères de Combat, based in Phalsbourg, with the deployment coming less than a year after their entry into service within the Alat (French army light aviation)."

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:45 pm

    An-124 modernization suspended by JSC Ilyushin because of problems with the engines D-18

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1539715.html


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Militarov on Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:16 pm

    George1 wrote:An-124 modernization suspended by JSC Ilyushin because of problems with the engines D-18

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1539715.html

    Kill me but i expected something of a sort to happen. Damn Motor Sich.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:19 am

    George1 wrote:An-124 modernization suspended by JSC Ilyushin because of problems with the engines D-18

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1539715.html

    There is no indication of any suspension. This blogger is twisting the facts and quoting a statement that indicates ongoing
    work on the engines. Talikov states that "all efforts are being made to continue the Colossus program".

    This endless portrayal of technical problems as show stoppers for Russia is very tiresome and retarded.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:54 am

    kvs wrote:
    George1 wrote:An-124 modernization suspended by JSC Ilyushin because of problems with the engines D-18

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1539715.html

    There is no indication of any suspension.   This blogger is twisting the facts and quoting a statement that indicates ongoing
    work on the engines.   Talikov states that "all efforts are being made to continue the Colossus program".    

    This endless portrayal of technical problems as show stoppers for Russia is very tiresome and retarded.

    Indeed it is.  But people will always be retarded I suppose.

    But that said, the idea that 6 engines isn't a bad idea.  They say "but would require rework of the wings" is not even an excuse.  Not even a damn good excuse.  Not only would it give Russian engines far more of a try (those D-18's are frigging old, not even considered new or good technology), and how much time would it really take to make new wings for it?  Probably barely any.

    Edit:

    Just a question, but with the introduction of the new Il-476, what is the need for this AN-124? It carries roughly almost 50tonnes more than the AN?

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:47 am

    Just a question, but with the introduction of the new Il-476, what is the need for this AN-124? It carries roughly almost 50tonnes more than the AN?

    ?? The Il-476 has a payload capacity of 60 tons, while the upgraded An-124 can carry 150 tons.

    The AN-22 can carry about 80 tons.


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Just a question, but with the introduction of the new Il-476, what is the need for this AN-124? It carries roughly almost 50tonnes more than the AN?

    ?? The Il-476 has a payload capacity of 60 tons, while the upgraded An-124 can carry 150 tons.

    The AN-22 can carry about 80 tons.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/il-476.htm

    Empty weight is 203,962 lb which is a little over 100 tons. Max takeoff weight is roughly 429,975 lb which is 215 tons. So my initial statement was off but Il-476 can carry upwards to over 100 tons judging by the numbers. Unless I am missing something.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:44 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Just a question, but with the introduction of the new Il-476, what is the need for this AN-124? It carries roughly almost 50tonnes more than the AN?

    ?? The Il-476 has a payload capacity of 60 tons, while the upgraded An-124 can carry 150 tons.

    The AN-22 can carry about 80 tons.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/il-476.htm

    Empty weight is 203,962 lb which is a little over 100 tons.  Max takeoff weight is roughly 429,975 lb which is 215 tons.  So my initial statement was off but Il-476 can carry upwards to over 100 tons judging by the numbers.  Unless I am missing something.  

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:28 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Just a question, but with the introduction of the new Il-476, what is the need for this AN-124? It carries roughly almost 50tonnes more than the AN?

    ?? The Il-476 has a payload capacity of 60 tons, while the upgraded An-124 can carry 150 tons.

    The AN-22 can carry about 80 tons.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/il-476.htm

    Empty weight is 203,962 lb which is a little over 100 tons.  Max takeoff weight is roughly 429,975 lb which is 215 tons.  So my initial statement was off but Il-476 can carry upwards to over 100 tons judging by the numbers.  Unless I am missing something.  

    Fuel Very Happy?

    How much is fuel in weight? There is a possibility that fuel takes up a lot of weight but I doubt 40+ tones of weight.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Militarov on Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:57 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    Just a question, but with the introduction of the new Il-476, what is the need for this AN-124? It carries roughly almost 50tonnes more than the AN?

    ?? The Il-476 has a payload capacity of 60 tons, while the upgraded An-124 can carry 150 tons.

    The AN-22 can carry about 80 tons.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/il-476.htm

    Empty weight is 203,962 lb which is a little over 100 tons.  Max takeoff weight is roughly 429,975 lb which is 215 tons.  So my initial statement was off but Il-476 can carry upwards to over 100 tons judging by the numbers.  Unless I am missing something.  

    Fuel Very Happy?

    How much is fuel in weight?  There is a possibility that fuel takes up a lot of weight but I doubt 40+ tones of weight.

    Max fuel load is 109500l, i belive 0,84 would be transfer rate to kg for fuel, so around 87.600kg.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:27 am

    Max fuel load is 109500l, i belive 0,84 would be transfer rate to kg for fuel, so around 87.600kg.

    One litre of water = 1 kilogram, and most fuels have similar densities to water... well close enough to not matter that much... so 109500 litres of fuel would weigh about 109.5 tons.

    Empty weight is 203,962 lb which is a little over 100 tons. Max takeoff weight is roughly 429,975 lb which is 215 tons. So my initial statement was off but Il-476 can carry upwards to over 100 tons judging by the numbers. Unless I am missing something.

    There is no point in carrying 150 tons of payload if you can't take it anywhere.

    An Il-476 with 60 + 110 tons payload is not much use because unless that 110 tons is fuel it is not going anywhere.

    The An-124 can carry 150 tons of payload and sufficient fuel to carry it 5,000km... it is a much larger aircraft and will therefore need lots of fuel to do this too.


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:11 am

    Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it. I think the Il-96 is just the best option now. Screw Antonov at every corner.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Dorfmeister on Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:55 am

    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    You definitely can't replace an AN-124 with an IL-96-400... They aren't playing in the same field.

    It's like if you were trying to replace a C-5 Galaxy with a B-767 Laughing

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:28 am

    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    Sorry you can not replace AN-124 by any existing aircraft, except AN-225, but that is out of question. NATO logistics rely on AN-124 to deploy their tanks and helicopters to afghanistan. They constantly lease russian companies and their AN-125 for that job.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:31 pm


    An-124 will be replaced with Ilyushin ERMAC in two, four and six engine versions.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:27 pm

    Dorfmeister wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    You definitely can't replace an AN-124 with an IL-96-400... They aren't playing in the same field.

    It's like if you were trying to replace a C-5 Galaxy with a B-767 Laughing
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    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    Sorry you can not replace AN-124 by any existing aircraft, except AN-225, but that is out of question. NATO logistics rely on AN-124 to deploy their tanks and helicopters to afghanistan. They constantly lease russian companies and their AN-125 for that job.

    They will get replaced.  Jump around saying they cant all you want, but they simply will.  If Russia cannot obtain parts for it, what do you think will happen?  Think about it.

    Il-96 if converted will be able to transport upwards to 91T as mentioned before.  If adjustments are made, it could carry more as Militorov said.

    Get your heads out of your ass.  We are talking about a nation that produces far more than PUkraine and Antonov isn't anything special in development (those D-18 engines are old as shit).

    Back in the 90's, Ilyushin proposed a heavy lift plane but none built due to AN-70 and AN-125. Now with current politics, they will eventually restart R&D for such a plane. Take away any form of revenue to Ukraine and Antonov.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:50 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Dorfmeister wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    You definitely can't replace an AN-124 with an IL-96-400... They aren't playing in the same field.

    It's like if you were trying to replace a C-5 Galaxy with a B-767 Laughing
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    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    Sorry you can not replace AN-124 by any existing aircraft, except AN-225, but that is out of question. NATO logistics rely on AN-124 to deploy their tanks and helicopters to afghanistan. They constantly lease russian companies and their AN-125 for that job.

    They will get replaced.  Jump around saying they cant all you want, but they simply will.  If Russia cannot obtain parts for it, what do you think will happen?  Think about it.

    Il-96 if converted will be able to transport upwards to 91T as mentioned before.  If adjustments are made, it could carry more as Militorov said.

    Get your heads out of your ass.  We are talking about a nation that produces far more than PUkraine and Antonov isn't anything special in development (those D-18 engines are old as shit).

    Back in the 90's, Ilyushin proposed a heavy lift plane but none built due to AN-70 and AN-125.  Now with current politics, they will eventually restart R&D for such a plane.  Take away any form of revenue to Ukraine and Antonov.

    What is more likely, to build all spare parts themselfs or use an inferior transport aircraft and try to modify it to somehow get as much capable as AN-124 in total weight capacity?

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:59 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Dorfmeister wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    You definitely can't replace an AN-124 with an IL-96-400... They aren't playing in the same field.

    It's like if you were trying to replace a C-5 Galaxy with a B-767 Laughing
    Werewolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Well then, they will have to either come up with an alternative or get new engines for it.  I think the Il-96 is just the best option now.  Screw Antonov at every corner.

    Sorry you can not replace AN-124 by any existing aircraft, except AN-225, but that is out of question. NATO logistics rely on AN-124 to deploy their tanks and helicopters to afghanistan. They constantly lease russian companies and their AN-125 for that job.

    They will get replaced.  Jump around saying they cant all you want, but they simply will.  If Russia cannot obtain parts for it, what do you think will happen?  Think about it.

    Il-96 if converted will be able to transport upwards to 91T as mentioned before.  If adjustments are made, it could carry more as Militorov said.

    Get your heads out of your ass.  We are talking about a nation that produces far more than PUkraine and Antonov isn't anything special in development (those D-18 engines are old as shit).

    Back in the 90's, Ilyushin proposed a heavy lift plane but none built due to AN-70 and AN-125.  Now with current politics, they will eventually restart R&D for such a plane.  Take away any form of revenue to Ukraine and Antonov.

    What is more likely, to build all spare parts themselfs or use an inferior transport aircraft and try to modify it to somehow get as much capable as AN-124 in total weight capacity?

    Or build a new type of aircraft? They cannot build all spare parts themselves as Antonov will cause a stir, thanks to intellectual property rights. And I highly doubt it would be inferior product for the other. You cannot judge that without it actually created and tested. Pure speculation otherwise.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  Werewolf on Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:12 pm

    Intellectual property rights are only protect against individuals abusing them not for countries. Fucking shit of US are stealing Kalaschnikows without having any right to produce or sell them. Russia is a giant, the biggest on this planet it does not need to give a shit about any intellectual property rights, no court could push that shit through.

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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:46 pm

    As mentioned above they are planning to replace the An-22, An-124, and An-225 with a unified transport design with two, four, and six engines respectively in the 80, 150, 250 ton payload ranges.

    Designing the plane will be fairly straight forward and simple... the task will be the engines... and they have a few in the design process that would be good... a high bypass turbofan based on the NK-32 leaps to mind, plus all the other engines they are working on too.

    The current in service antonovs are currently doing their job and can continue to do so for a few years yet so there is no great urgency to replace them right now.

    They will of course need to be replaced and will be.

    Note the An-225 is not currently used by the Russian military but its capability to carry large external loads like huge fuel tanks and boosters will be handy for transporting large items for the space industry from their place of manufacture to their launch positions.


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    Re: An-124 Strategic Transport: News

    Post  sepheronx on Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:47 am

    Is there any links regarding this proposed aircraft?

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:35 am

    sepheronx wrote:Is there any links regarding this proposed aircraft?
    Earlier this year, in militaryphotos.net, someone had posted an image taken from a video (I think from Zvezda TV) with the 3 variants of the new transport, one "light" (2x 30-ton engines), "medium" (4 engines) and heavy (6). I couldn't find more information, however.

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