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    S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:55 pm

    Russia set to finish development of new air defense system


    RIA Novosti

    18:05 16/09/2009 ASTRAKHAN (South Russia), September 16 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's advanced S-500 air defense system could be developed in the next few years, the Air Force commander said on Wednesday.

    The S-500 is currently at the blueprint stage at the Almaz-Antei company and is expected to be rolled out by 2012.

    "This work is in progress...I think this system will appear in the near future," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

    The new system is expected to outperform Russia's most advanced S-400 as well as the U.S. Patriot Advanced Capability-3 system.

    The S-400 Triumf (SA-21 Growler) is capable of intercepting and destroying airborne targets at a distance of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), and can simultaneously engage up to six targets.

    The S-500 is expected to have an extended range of up to 600 km (over 370 miles) and simultaneously engage up to 10 targets. The system will be capable of destroying hypersonic and ballistic targets.

    Zelin said Russia's Defense Ministry considers the delivery of S-400 air defense missile systems to the Russian Armed Forces a priority at present, although exports of these systems to other countries of the Commonwealth of the Independent States (CIS) could be considered.

    The general earlier said in line with a new defense model air-space defense brigades within Russia's Air Force will be established and equipped with advanced S-400 and S-500 air defense systems.

    Russia has already deployed two S-400 regiments to protect the airspace around Moscow and industrial regions in the central part of the country, and an S-400 battalion in Russia's Far East.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2009/russia-090916-rianovosti01.htm

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    S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:29 pm

    Russia in 2010, is planning a 3.5-fold increase the number of divisions S-400


    Commander of Air Forces of Russia, Colonel General Alexander Zelin said on Thursday gave a press conference at which he told me what would arm the RF Air Force next year
    Evaluating the results of tests of C-400, conducted at the site Ashuluk this year, General Zelin said that he was pleased with the results of

    Chief of the Air Forces of Russia, Colonel General Alexander Zelin said on Thursday gave a press conference at which he told me what would arm the RF Air Force next year.

    Thus, according to Zelina, Air Force in 2010, plans to increase to seven the number of battalions of anti-aircraft missile system S-400 Triumph, ITAR-TASS. "So far we have two divisions of S-400, delivered on combat duty near Moscow. In 2010, we have to get five more divisions, but it all depends on the ability of industry" - said the commander in chief.

    Evaluating the results of tests of C-400 carried on the polygon Ashuluk this year, General Zelin said he was pleased with the results: "Despite the complexity of the available system successfully demonstrated its high capacity for destruction of various types of targets, including simulating tactical and medium ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. The targets were successfully met.

    However, the commander in chief acknowledged that "those tactical and medium characteristics, which we put into the system, yet perfect. "Therefore, - he continued - in conjunction with Concern Almaz-Antey" there is still much work to the required results were achieved.

    Commander needs to intensify the development of S-500

    The general also said he was not satisfied with the progress of developing a universal anti-aircraft missile system with long range and high-altitude interception with an increased potential for missile defense - C-500. "How is the development of S-500, I am not happy. I would like to see the potential that exists in the Concern" Almaz-Antey ", has been doubled and even tripled," - he said.

    Commander said that "in December at a meeting of the board of directors of Almaz-Antey" (in which he is), he sounded the issues of development of this system. " Zelin said that the system C-500 to make such basic requirements as the realization of the increased ability to defeat ballistic targets (intermediate range ballistic missiles, tactical and operational-tactical ballistic missile) with a high intercept up to 200 miles, and flight speed of up to 7 km / sec as well as the possibility of defeat warheads hypersonic cruise missiles.

    Zelin earlier said that the anti-missile system is a new generation of C-500 is a further development of S-400 Triumph "and" able to fully solve the problems of air and space defense, destroying ballistic hypersonic target flying at a speed of 5 kilometers per second. "

    http://www.newsru.com/russia/26nov2009/vvs.html

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:41 am

    WoW WoW WoW ... I can not belive what I see ...

    Info about S-500.

    destruction of ballistic missile with 7km/s speed
    up to 330km height of destruction
    including hypersonic missiles

    If thiese are project requirements tomorrow Im dead drunk. russia respekt

    About S-400

    All mission objectives meet (ballistic and cruise)
    5 more divisions in 2010
    following improvements

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    Russia to deploy more S-400 air-defense battalions in 2010!

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:21 am

    Russia to deploy more S-400 air-defense battalions in 2010

    RIA Novosti

    26/11/200916:30

    MOSCOW, November 26 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is to deploy another five air-defense battalions equipped with advanced S-400 Triumf surface-to-air missile systems next year, the Air Force commander said on Thursday.

    "So far we have two S-400 battalions," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said, adding both were deployed just outside Moscow.

    "In 2010, we are due to get enough S-400s to equip another five battalions."

    He said, however, that would depend on "our industry's capabilities."

    Gen. Nikolai Makarov, the chief of General Staff, said in August Russia had deployed S-400 air systems in the Far East to counter the potential threat posed by N. Korea's missile tests.

    However, to date, his statement has not been confirmed. Some military commentators have suggested the general "jumped the gun" and "was trying to pass off his wishful thinking for reality."

    The S-400 Triumf (SA-21 Growler) is designed to intercept and destroy airborne targets at distances of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), twice the range of the U.S. MIM-104 Patriot, and two-and-a-half times that of Russia's S-300PMU-2.

    The system is also believed to be able to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, and is effective at ranges of up to 3,500 kilometers (2,200 miles) and speeds of up to 4.8 kilometers (3 miles) per second.

    A regular S-400 battalion comprises at least eight launchers with 32 missiles and a mobile command post, according to various sources. The new state arms procurement program until 2015 stipulates the purchase of enough S-400 air defense systems to arm 18 battalions during this period.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2009/russia-091126-rianovosti02.htm

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  sepheronx on Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:00 pm

    The thing is, these babies where on order for a long time. The companies have been so busy with foreign orders, that it had to at least acquire the order two years prior in order to at least make the 2010 due date. These systems where at least ordered in 2007, so three years prior. That is why Russia should start putting up facilities that build small parts or parts for various systems in the other republics (lots of production in terms of parts, and money flowing for these poor areas of Russia so it helps curb corruption, terrorism, etc).

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:58 pm

    Little more about S-500 specs...

    P-500 - generation of anti-aircraft missile systems, surface-to-air missiles designed to intercept ballistic missiles with ranges up to 3,5 thousand km of medium and short distances and for the protection of Airborne Early Warning and Command and from airborne systems for jamming. With the planned flight radius of 600 km S-500 will be able to detect and simultaneously hit up to 10 ballistic supersonic targets flying at speeds of up to 7 km / sec.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:59 am

    Looking forward to seeing this system as it is the first large long range SAM the Russians have developed that is no limited by the ABM treaty.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:24 am

    600km.. now that's really something ..anda capability of destroying Hypersonic target .. what's the projetcted threat that this system have to fight ? something like X-51 ?

    hmm i believe this system will also spawn a Navalized version just like S-300F

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:34 pm

    Actually Hypersonic target is not a new capability.

    Technically hypersonic is about mach 5 to mach 6, which works out at about 320 x 5 to 320 x 6 metres per second, or between 1.6 and 1.92 km/s.

    The Antey-2500 can already hit target flying at 4.5km/s and the S-400 can deal with targets flying at 4.8km/s.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:34 pm

    29/04/1910 IN RUSSIA ARE TESTING THE S-500

    April 29, 2010


    ARMS-Expo, April 28. In Russia, carried out development and testing of complex air defense of the new generation C-500. This, as reported by Interfax, said deputy director general of the leading design bureau Concern PVO Almaz-Antey "Yuri Soloviev.



    According to him, Russia will develop a new generation air defense complex S-500 faster than a set of the previous generation. Responding to a question, when it can be completed the creation of complex C-500, he said: "This is a matter of time." Is currently underway on the development and testing of the complex.



    It is planned that the creation of anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) C-500 for a unified system of antiaircraft missile defense Russia will end in 2015



    S-500 belongs to a new generation air defense missile system (ZRS) surface-to-air ", which is designed to intercept ballistic missiles with a range and flight speed up to 3,5 thousand km. and up to 5 km per second, respectively. As stated characteristics of S-500 should detect and simultaneously destroy up to 10 supersonic targets at ranges up to 600 km.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:58 pm

    Missile with 600km range, I will believe it when I see. S-400 still doesn't have its 400km missile.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:53 pm

    I belive S-400 will from Q3 2010 have 400km range missile. Besides version of 48N6 missile with 400km range was tested at the end of 80ies.
    S-500 will have 600km in range but most importantly 250km in height range missile witch will provide Russia with unprecedented cover area.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:17 am

    Viktor wrote:I belive S-400 will from Q3 2010 have 400km range missile.

    I hope so because without it, it is just a fancy S-300PMU2.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:45 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:I belive S-400 will from Q3 2010 have 400km range missile.

    I hope so because without it, it is just a fancy S-300PMU2.


    Check this out.

    04/30/1910 TEST LONG-RANGE MISSILE FOR THE S-400 SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN THE THIRD QUARTER
    April 30, 2010

    ITAR-TASS reported. Tests of long-range missiles for air defense missile system (SAM), S-400 should be completed in the 3 rd quarter of this year, and in the 4 th quarter, it should be placed on production, the general director of the Design Bureau "Almaz- Antey Igor Ashurbeyli.

    According to him, the development of "never any problems with this missile was not" and all the tests conducted in a planned manner.

    "There were no failures or difficulties, technical and scientific nature of long-distance missile - Ashurbeyli said in an interview published in the newspaper Kommersant." - It passed its tests in a planned manner in accordance with the documents of the Ministry of Defence, assuming funding which we could ensure that the Ministry for the manufacture of these missiles. Therefore, this missile test came about three years - was a military operation for about a half dozen targets, "- said the general director of Almaz-Antey".

    He noted that now "this work is done." "December 26, 2009 completed preliminary testing. And the rocket presented for state testing. In the third quarter of 2010, we must conclude them with the fighting, of course, launches and put it into series production in the fourth quarter - added Ashurbeyli.

    According to him, the pace of further deliveries of S-400 will depend on the orders. "This year, we supply two battalions in the next year - four, but more is still incomprehensible to us - in 2012 we have no signed contract, - said Ashurbeyli. - So today we can talk about that three months in 2012 we have already lost, because the technological cycle of production systems of 24 months.

    Accordingly, if we are on April 1 did not receive an advance, the 24 months we will not give division. Divisions now have to be laid on the plants to get them in the first quarter of 2012, and now confidence in me that will be signed contracts this year, no. Although it is written in the State's weapons program until 2015, which is the law, "- said director general.

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    Russian S-400 missiles to go into serial production

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:40 pm

    Russian long range ballistic missiles for S-400 Triumph surface-to-air missile systems will go into serial production in the autumn, a leading missile manufacturer said on Friday.
    Earlier media reports said the S-400 missile system was incomplete as long range ballistic missiles, among others, had not been adopted for it.
    "On December 26, 2009 the preliminary tests were finished and the missile was put forward for state tests," Kommersant daily quoted the general director of Almaz-Antei, Igor Ashurbeili, as saying.
    "In the third quarter of 2010 we should finish them, along with combat duty launches, and then put it [the missile] into serial production in the fourth quarter," he added.
    According to Ashurbeili, there were no technical failures or difficulties concerning the long range missile tests.

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    S-500 is a separate development, not an upgraded S-400. The idea of S-500 is having a mobile Anti-Ballistic missile defense system, much like the GBI that the US was developing. It will be also capable of taking down Satellites. So more like an Ultra-long range missile will be used for such a system.

    Almaz-Antey is doing very well financially, so funding for R&D shouldn't be even close to a problem.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat May 01, 2010 12:33 pm

    Russian S-400 missiles to go into serial production



    S-400 Triumph
    © RIA Novosti.Ilya Kramnik


    Russian long range ballistic missiles for S-400 Triumph surface-to-air missile systems will go into serial production in the autumn, a leading missile manufacturer said on Friday.

    Earlier media reports said the S-400 missile system was incomplete as long range ballistic missiles, among others, had not been adopted for it.

    "On December 26, 2009 the preliminary tests were finished and the missile was put forward for state tests," Kommersant daily quoted the general director of Almaz-Antei, Igor Ashurbeili, as saying.

    "In the third quarter of 2010 we should finish them, along with combat duty launches, and then put it [the missile] into serial production in the fourth quarter," he added.

    According to Ashurbeili, there were no technical failures or difficulties concerning the long range missile tests.

    "The tests of S-400 missile lasted for about 3 years...We are bewildered by the bacchanalia of rumors and slander concerning the issue as an ordinary working process is going on," he continued.

    Ashurbeili added that the situation regarding the production of missiles after 2012 is unclear as Almaz-Antei does not have "any signed contracts for 2012".

    The S-400 Triumph boasts unique characteristics. It can destroy any air target, including aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, and cruise and ballistic missiles within a range of 400 kilometers and an altitude up to 30 kilometers. The system is almost three times more efficient than its Russian and foreign counterparts.

    There are no plans so far to export the S-400. It will be produced only for the Russian Armed Forces. An additional two systems will be deployed by the end of 2010.

    MOSCOW, April 30 (RIA Novosti)

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    Almaz is bewildered that their missiles are 3 years later than their products? Oh well, better late than never. Only building 2 S-400 units a year is not going to cut it.

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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Viktor on Sat May 01, 2010 4:07 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    S-500 is a separate development, not an upgraded S-400. The idea of S-500 is having a mobile Anti-Ballistic missile defense system, much like the GBI that the US was developing. It will be also capable of taking down Satellites. So more like an Ultra-long range missile will be used for such a system.

    Its not US GBI equivalent but US THAAD only more powerful.

    Besides what is interested Viytaz SAM being developt for South Korea and with its money will be finished in 2012 and will replace S-300P system in Russia to.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat May 01, 2010 6:06 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    S-500 is a separate development, not an upgraded S-400. The idea of S-500 is having a mobile Anti-Ballistic missile defense system, much like the GBI that the US was developing. It will be also capable of taking down Satellites. So more like an Ultra-long range missile will be used for such a system.

    Its not US GBI equivalent but US THAAD only more powerful.

    Besides what is interested Viytaz SAM being developt for South Korea and with its money will be finished in 2012 and will replace S-300P system in Russia to.

    Ranges and tests of both the THAAD and GBI are in question. S-500 has both high altitude and long range, which would be ideal in an anti ballistics action.

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    Post  Viktor on Sat May 01, 2010 7:23 pm

    Yes but GBI is not mobile. Its basicly ICBM fitted with EKV steared with long range radar. Its attitude and range is mutch higher than THAADs or S-500.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sun May 02, 2010 1:50 am

    Viktor wrote:Yes but GBI is not mobile. Its basicly ICBM fitted with EKV steared with long range radar. Its attitude and range is mutch higher than THAADs or S-500.

    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles. Turn them into interceptors.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 02, 2010 4:42 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles. Turn them into interceptors.

    Best thing for recycling old ICBMs is the scrap heap, unless it is safe enough to launch an LEO Sat.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sun May 02, 2010 10:24 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:

    You know, maybe that is a good idea for Russia in recycling their old ICMB's or theater ballistic missiles. Turn them into interceptors.

    Best thing for recycling old ICBMs is the scrap heap, unless it is safe enough to launch an LEO Sat.

    But what about putting up a conventional warhead and use it as an interceptor?

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 02, 2010 11:26 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    But what about putting up a conventional warhead and use it as an interceptor?

    Why would you make a ballistic missile an interceptor? It is called ballistic because it has a very limited flight path that only goes two places... up-down. The only time you can use a ballistic missile to shoot down space targets is when you know exactly were they are going to be. China does that and I can tell you it has limited to no combat value. They have the ability to shoot down a satellite in a decayed orbit... and it took them several years to prepare for it. They knew exactly where it would be and where to point their ballistic missile trajectory. It isn't something they can do on the fly. Same goes for their so called "missile intercept." They have to get their kill vehicle within a couple kilometres of the target and without knowing the target path months in advance, they won't be able to do anything about it.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sun May 02, 2010 12:45 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:

    But what about putting up a conventional warhead and use it as an interceptor?

    Why would you make a ballistic missile an interceptor? It is called ballistic because it has a very limited flight path that only goes two places... up-down. The only time you can use a ballistic missile to shoot down space targets is when you know exactly were they are going to be. China does that and I can tell you it has limited to no combat value. They have the ability to shoot down a satellite in a decayed orbit... and it took them several years to prepare for it. They knew exactly where it would be and where to point their ballistic missile trajectory. It isn't something they can do on the fly. Same goes for their so called "missile intercept." They have to get their kill vehicle within a couple kilometres of the target and without knowing the target path months in advance, they won't be able to do anything about it.

    Fair enough. Then what about turning it into a conventional weapon rather then Nuclear? For instance, the conventional weapon that US is wanting to produce?

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 02, 2010 4:38 pm

    sepheronx wrote:

    Fair enough. Then what about turning it into a conventional weapon rather then Nuclear? For instance, the conventional weapon that US is wanting to produce?

    They don't have the CEP to make it effective.

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