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    S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Russian Patriot on Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:25 pm

    Russia set to finish development of new air defense system


    RIA Novosti

    18:05 16/09/2009 ASTRAKHAN (South Russia), September 16 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's advanced S-500 air defense system could be developed in the next few years, the Air Force commander said on Wednesday.

    The S-500 is currently at the blueprint stage at the Almaz-Antei company and is expected to be rolled out by 2012.

    "This work is in progress...I think this system will appear in the near future," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.

    The new system is expected to outperform Russia's most advanced S-400 as well as the U.S. Patriot Advanced Capability-3 system.

    The S-400 Triumf (SA-21 Growler) is capable of intercepting and destroying airborne targets at a distance of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), and can simultaneously engage up to six targets.

    The S-500 is expected to have an extended range of up to 600 km (over 370 miles) and simultaneously engage up to 10 targets. The system will be capable of destroying hypersonic and ballistic targets.

    Zelin said Russia's Defense Ministry considers the delivery of S-400 air defense missile systems to the Russian Armed Forces a priority at present, although exports of these systems to other countries of the Commonwealth of the Independent States (CIS) could be considered.

    The general earlier said in line with a new defense model air-space defense brigades within Russia's Air Force will be established and equipped with advanced S-400 and S-500 air defense systems.

    Russia has already deployed two S-400 regiments to protect the airspace around Moscow and industrial regions in the central part of the country, and an S-400 battalion in Russia's Far East.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2009/russia-090916-rianovosti01.htm
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    S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:59 pm

    Russia in 2010, is planning a 3.5-fold increase the number of divisions S-400


    Commander of Air Forces of Russia, Colonel General Alexander Zelin said on Thursday gave a press conference at which he told me what would arm the RF Air Force next year
    Evaluating the results of tests of C-400, conducted at the site Ashuluk this year, General Zelin said that he was pleased with the results of

    Chief of the Air Forces of Russia, Colonel General Alexander Zelin said on Thursday gave a press conference at which he told me what would arm the RF Air Force next year.

    Thus, according to Zelina, Air Force in 2010, plans to increase to seven the number of battalions of anti-aircraft missile system S-400 Triumph, ITAR-TASS. "So far we have two divisions of S-400, delivered on combat duty near Moscow. In 2010, we have to get five more divisions, but it all depends on the ability of industry" - said the commander in chief.

    Evaluating the results of tests of C-400 carried on the polygon Ashuluk this year, General Zelin said he was pleased with the results: "Despite the complexity of the available system successfully demonstrated its high capacity for destruction of various types of targets, including simulating tactical and medium ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. The targets were successfully met.

    However, the commander in chief acknowledged that "those tactical and medium characteristics, which we put into the system, yet perfect. "Therefore, - he continued - in conjunction with Concern Almaz-Antey" there is still much work to the required results were achieved.

    Commander needs to intensify the development of S-500

    The general also said he was not satisfied with the progress of developing a universal anti-aircraft missile system with long range and high-altitude interception with an increased potential for missile defense - C-500. "How is the development of S-500, I am not happy. I would like to see the potential that exists in the Concern" Almaz-Antey ", has been doubled and even tripled," - he said.

    Commander said that "in December at a meeting of the board of directors of Almaz-Antey" (in which he is), he sounded the issues of development of this system. " Zelin said that the system C-500 to make such basic requirements as the realization of the increased ability to defeat ballistic targets (intermediate range ballistic missiles, tactical and operational-tactical ballistic missile) with a high intercept up to 200 miles, and flight speed of up to 7 km / sec as well as the possibility of defeat warheads hypersonic cruise missiles.

    Zelin earlier said that the anti-missile system is a new generation of C-500 is a further development of S-400 Triumph "and" able to fully solve the problems of air and space defense, destroying ballistic hypersonic target flying at a speed of 5 kilometers per second. "

    http://www.newsru.com/russia/26nov2009/vvs.html
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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Viktor on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:11 pm

    WoW WoW WoW ... I can not belive what I see ...

    Info about S-500.

    destruction of ballistic missile with 7km/s speed
    up to 330km height of destruction
    including hypersonic missiles

    If thiese are project requirements tomorrow Im dead drunk. russia respekt

    About S-400

    All mission objectives meet (ballistic and cruise)
    5 more divisions in 2010
    following improvements

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    Russia to deploy more S-400 air-defense battalions in 2010!

    Post  Russian Patriot on Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:51 pm

    Russia to deploy more S-400 air-defense battalions in 2010

    RIA Novosti

    26/11/200916:30

    MOSCOW, November 26 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is to deploy another five air-defense battalions equipped with advanced S-400 Triumf surface-to-air missile systems next year, the Air Force commander said on Thursday.

    "So far we have two S-400 battalions," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said, adding both were deployed just outside Moscow.

    "In 2010, we are due to get enough S-400s to equip another five battalions."

    He said, however, that would depend on "our industry's capabilities."

    Gen. Nikolai Makarov, the chief of General Staff, said in August Russia had deployed S-400 air systems in the Far East to counter the potential threat posed by N. Korea's missile tests.

    However, to date, his statement has not been confirmed. Some military commentators have suggested the general "jumped the gun" and "was trying to pass off his wishful thinking for reality."

    The S-400 Triumf (SA-21 Growler) is designed to intercept and destroy airborne targets at distances of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), twice the range of the U.S. MIM-104 Patriot, and two-and-a-half times that of Russia's S-300PMU-2.

    The system is also believed to be able to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, and is effective at ranges of up to 3,500 kilometers (2,200 miles) and speeds of up to 4.8 kilometers (3 miles) per second.

    A regular S-400 battalion comprises at least eight launchers with 32 missiles and a mobile command post, according to various sources. The new state arms procurement program until 2015 stipulates the purchase of enough S-400 air defense systems to arm 18 battalions during this period.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:30 am

    The thing is, these babies where on order for a long time. The companies have been so busy with foreign orders, that it had to at least acquire the order two years prior in order to at least make the 2010 due date. These systems where at least ordered in 2007, so three years prior. That is why Russia should start putting up facilities that build small parts or parts for various systems in the other republics (lots of production in terms of parts, and money flowing for these poor areas of Russia so it helps curb corruption, terrorism, etc).
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    Re: S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #1

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:28 pm

    Little more about S-500 specs...

    P-500 - generation of anti-aircraft missile systems, surface-to-air missiles designed to intercept ballistic missiles with ranges up to 3,5 thousand km of medium and short distances and for the protection of Airborne Early Warning and Command and from airborne systems for jamming. With the planned flight radius of 600 km S-500 will be able to detect and simultaneously hit up to 10 ballistic supersonic targets flying at speeds of up to 7 km / sec.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:29 am

    Looking forward to seeing this system as it is the first large long range SAM the Russians have developed that is no limited by the ABM treaty.
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    Post  Stealthflanker on Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:54 am

    600km.. now that's really something ..anda capability of destroying Hypersonic target .. what's the projetcted threat that this system have to fight ? something like X-51 ?

    hmm i believe this system will also spawn a Navalized version just like S-300F
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:04 am

    Actually Hypersonic target is not a new capability.

    Technically hypersonic is about mach 5 to mach 6, which works out at about 320 x 5 to 320 x 6 metres per second, or between 1.6 and 1.92 km/s.

    The Antey-2500 can already hit target flying at 4.5km/s and the S-400 can deal with targets flying at 4.8km/s.
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    S-300 Long Range SAM system:

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:05 am



    16/04/2010

    It took the Kola Peninsula air-defense unit’s surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems only a few minutes to shoot down “enemy” ballistic and cruise missiles at the Ashuluk missile test range in Russia’s Astrakhan Region during military drills.  S-300 SAMs are launched against dummies during an exercise at the Ashuluk range. The Ashuluk range is 120 km by 38 km. In all, 23 missiles were launched to intercept 10 dummy rockets. Representatives from the air defense forces in Kazakhstan and Belarus watched the exercise.
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    It took the Kola Peninsula air-defense unit’s surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:43 pm

    BTW little questions related to this system :

    -that S-300 appears to uses 5V55R missiles hmm vlad do you know how much G-force it can pull ? i read a PDF file sourced from dtig.org stated .. 20G.. (well it's in German) .. is this correct OR

    is that 20G is the target's G-load , so in short 5V55 can engage target maneuvering at 20G ?.

    BTW This is the pdf file

    http://www.dtig.org/docs/SA-10.pdf

    hmm hopefully your german to english translator is far better than mine Very Happy
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:04 am

    29/04/1910 IN RUSSIA ARE TESTING THE S-500

    April 29, 2010


    ARMS-Expo, April 28. In Russia, carried out development and testing of complex air defense of the new generation C-500. This, as reported by Interfax, said deputy director general of the leading design bureau Concern PVO Almaz-Antey "Yuri Soloviev.



    According to him, Russia will develop a new generation air defense complex S-500 faster than a set of the previous generation. Responding to a question, when it can be completed the creation of complex C-500, he said: "This is a matter of time." Is currently underway on the development and testing of the complex.



    It is planned that the creation of anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) C-500 for a unified system of antiaircraft missile defense Russia will end in 2015



    S-500 belongs to a new generation air defense missile system (ZRS) surface-to-air ", which is designed to intercept ballistic missiles with a range and flight speed up to 3,5 thousand km. and up to 5 km per second, respectively. As stated characteristics of S-500 should detect and simultaneously destroy up to 10 supersonic targets at ranges up to 600 km.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:28 pm

    Missile with 600km range, I will believe it when I see. S-400 still doesn't have its 400km missile.
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    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:23 pm

    I belive S-400 will from Q3 2010 have 400km range missile. Besides version of 48N6 missile with 400km range was tested at the end of 80ies.
    S-500 will have 600km in range but most importantly 250km in height range missile witch will provide Russia with unprecedented cover area.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:47 pm

    Viktor wrote:I belive S-400 will from Q3 2010 have 400km range missile.

    I hope so because without it, it is just a fancy S-300PMU2.
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:15 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:I belive S-400 will from Q3 2010 have 400km range missile.

    I hope so because without it, it is just a fancy S-300PMU2.


    Check this out.

    04/30/1910 TEST LONG-RANGE MISSILE FOR THE S-400 SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN THE THIRD QUARTER
    April 30, 2010

    ITAR-TASS reported. Tests of long-range missiles for air defense missile system (SAM), S-400 should be completed in the 3 rd quarter of this year, and in the 4 th quarter, it should be placed on production, the general director of the Design Bureau "Almaz- Antey Igor Ashurbeyli.

    According to him, the development of "never any problems with this missile was not" and all the tests conducted in a planned manner.

    "There were no failures or difficulties, technical and scientific nature of long-distance missile - Ashurbeyli said in an interview published in the newspaper Kommersant." - It passed its tests in a planned manner in accordance with the documents of the Ministry of Defence, assuming funding which we could ensure that the Ministry for the manufacture of these missiles. Therefore, this missile test came about three years - was a military operation for about a half dozen targets, "- said the general director of Almaz-Antey".

    He noted that now "this work is done." "December 26, 2009 completed preliminary testing. And the rocket presented for state testing. In the third quarter of 2010, we must conclude them with the fighting, of course, launches and put it into series production in the fourth quarter - added Ashurbeyli.

    According to him, the pace of further deliveries of S-400 will depend on the orders. "This year, we supply two battalions in the next year - four, but more is still incomprehensible to us - in 2012 we have no signed contract, - said Ashurbeyli. - So today we can talk about that three months in 2012 we have already lost, because the technological cycle of production systems of 24 months.

    Accordingly, if we are on April 1 did not receive an advance, the 24 months we will not give division. Divisions now have to be laid on the plants to get them in the first quarter of 2012, and now confidence in me that will be signed contracts this year, no. Although it is written in the State's weapons program until 2015, which is the law, "- said director general.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat May 01, 2010 9:03 am

    Russian S-400 missiles to go into serial production



    S-400 Triumph
    © RIA Novosti.Ilya Kramnik


    Russian long range ballistic missiles for S-400 Triumph surface-to-air missile systems will go into serial production in the autumn, a leading missile manufacturer said on Friday.

    Earlier media reports said the S-400 missile system was incomplete as long range ballistic missiles, among others, had not been adopted for it.

    "On December 26, 2009 the preliminary tests were finished and the missile was put forward for state tests," Kommersant daily quoted the general director of Almaz-Antei, Igor Ashurbeili, as saying.

    "In the third quarter of 2010 we should finish them, along with combat duty launches, and then put it [the missile] into serial production in the fourth quarter," he added.

    According to Ashurbeili, there were no technical failures or difficulties concerning the long range missile tests.

    "The tests of S-400 missile lasted for about 3 years...We are bewildered by the bacchanalia of rumors and slander concerning the issue as an ordinary working process is going on," he continued.

    Ashurbeili added that the situation regarding the production of missiles after 2012 is unclear as Almaz-Antei does not have "any signed contracts for 2012".

    The S-400 Triumph boasts unique characteristics. It can destroy any air target, including aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, and cruise and ballistic missiles within a range of 400 kilometers and an altitude up to 30 kilometers. The system is almost three times more efficient than its Russian and foreign counterparts.

    There are no plans so far to export the S-400. It will be produced only for the Russian Armed Forces. An additional two systems will be deployed by the end of 2010.

    MOSCOW, April 30 (RIA Novosti)

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    Almaz is bewildered that their missiles are 3 years later than their products? Oh well, better late than never. Only building 2 S-400 units a year is not going to cut it.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue May 04, 2010 1:20 am

    Interview with Director-General GSKB "Almaz-Antey" -- Igor Ashurbeyli



    Director-General GSKB "Almaz-Antey" Igor Ashurbeyli missile business

    In recent views on the Russian defense industry in Russia itself - in the country's leadership, officials, military and economists strongly diverged. After a time it is called a principal engine of development of advanced technologies, the main drag of the development itself. For information on how the locomotive and the brake hand in hand in one of its most high-tech industries - establishing air and missile defense systems, from someone who is really behind, and how it should end, the correspondent of Kommersant said General Director of "Leading System Design Bureau" Almaz-Antey "them. Academician AA Raspletin Igor Ashurbeyli.

    - What is the main task and the main ideology of Concern Almaz-Antey "now?

    - Well, I for the group to speak in general can not. I will say for the main developer - GSKB "Almaz-Antey". We have grown out of "pants" defense, and our main path - a path to the air and space defense. We have outgrown the height of 30 km, which was our upper threshold (ceiling of the impact zone of existing anti-aircraft missiles .- "b"). Therefore, our strategy - from anti-aircraft missile defense over to the defense aerospace.

    This problem is formulated for the first time in the new military doctrine, approved by the president (Dmitry Medvedev made it in February of this year .- "b"). Prior to that, even the term "aerospace defense" (EBA) has sparked controversy, rejection. Everyone understood that this will change the entire picture of species and types of troops. It will happen at some point in time. And in the new military doctrine for the first time explicitly spelled out the need to create a system of aerospace defense of the Russian Federation.

    - There is much talk at different levels that the military-industrial complex, its management must change. What is your assessment of the management GSKB "Almaz-Antey"? What it needs new approaches?

    - Of course, new approaches are needed because the level itself evolving technology - and he dictates a new level of management. And, accordingly, requires a different level managers, where the brain must be different sharpened - both technically and economically, and, most importantly, information. Because such severe amounts of information that require processing to make management decisions - they may no longer be developed without the use of IT-technologies. The first thing you want to improve the quality of governance - is the introduction of modern information systems. Therefore, the "Diamond" established an office of information technologies and relevant research department in the "trunk", as we say, general designer, who designed and in a short period of time to introduce computerization of design, that is, from a private developer to the global level decision-making.

    This is especially important in view of the fact that our co-operatives located in 19 cities of Russia and there is the issue of security of communication channels for exchange of information between accomplices and developers. And one more problem - before everything had a subsistence economy, ie, each developer had with him actually experienced autonomous plant. But today, we can not compete on the world market with such mastodons, it is obsolete forms.

    Necessary to solve the problem instantly communicate design solutions to manufacturing - and not necessarily experienced, and not necessarily for myself, but perhaps in another city altogether. Check the documentation was transmitted directly to the machine that we have with more extraterritorial. To clear that the Iron Curtain, who was not only about the Soviet Union, but also within the military-industrial complex of the USSR and then Russia, where each company was specific principality. This is a time of greater openness in transactions not only at the level of managerial decisions, but also technical, technological and design.

    - And when all this can be done in full?

    - Never. Life is the same - it is always evolving. We will take another step, and it will develop further ... We are now catching up, unfortunately, yes ... Admittedly, the idea of a Russian engineer works faster than the thought of the Russian bureaucracy, including, I mean myself, and all managers of Almaz. Therefore, we only catch up geek, so there are some shortcomings in the fact, as today has time management for new technologies in development.

    - Management does not manage, and you join the "Diamond" More and more large enterprises. Why?

    - Join the four companies: JSC "Research Institute of Electromechanical (NIEMI), OJSC" Moscow Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Automation ", JSC" Research Institute of Radio Instrument "and OAO" Moscow Scientific Research Institute of Radio "Altair". All groups, all subjects - they are just going consolidation of the major creator of a solution of long-term problems EBA. Anti-aircraft missile system S-400 - it is already standard and we have little interest. We shall go there a couple of missiles, and all. But EBA requires a new powerful team. These four companies excellent scientists, but to my great regret, there is no promising developments - they are engaged in the modernization of existing ones, and that scientific and technological dead end. Our goal - to ensure their objectives for the development of advanced systems EBA.

    And keep in Moscow for five developers with five accounts, the five services by regime, the five financial services, the five security services, etc. - is simply silly. Therefore, it is a purely pragmatic things, including the construction of a new building in Moscow, a Leningrad House 80, which will be placed unified scientific and technical staff. Achieved a synergistic effect, because we will reduce to 30% of administrative staff ... Well, imagine again: five services chief engineer and five sewer services for the operation, roughly speaking, and all-everything else ... However, we do not reducing any of the developer, but within a few months will change organizational structure, so that she was confined to the final result.

    Because the old system made it possible to enjoy the process itself - that the endless development of something within the individual design offices, which each by itself, does not focus on the final product. Today we want to build a portfolio of final products that are sold, it does not matter - for the Russian Defense Ministry, or for a foreign customer, but they are a measure of the effectiveness of development. After all, the criteria for perfection technology should be not only scientific, technical, and financial.

    Anti-aircraft missile complexes "Morpheus", "Knight", "Favorite", C-400, C-500, the automated control system aircraft and air defense, missile defense system upgrade A-135, "Thor" or its symbiosis with the same "shell". .. It's all pretty scientific and technical challenge for future teams. Because with all due respect to the older generation, all this (stalemate in the category, the lack of new orders and development .- "b") is a brake on development. If we have a GSKB average age of 46 years, then we are going to take, for example, the collective NIEMI, where the average age of 59 years. And what to do?

    But discontent ... People are always afraid of change, they always anxiety: what will happen tomorrow, but suddenly we dispersed? And the structure of management who understand that they would lose their jobs, and perhaps will reveal what they are doing there - obviously, they make a destructive element, playing on people's feelings, their patriotism to the names of their firms. Even in the changing locations of: a train to another station Underground will need to go! It is simply the use of such technology now to proceed with the situation - to prevent adherence. Last excluded, since the decision taken by the government and the accession still held.

    - You said that the system S-400 - this is a series which, perhaps not so interesting for you. But this is the main your order from the state. When C-400 received the promised long-range missiles?

    - Well, first of all, I always said publicly that never any problems with this missile was not. We simply can not just tell everyone what time are put before us the state defense order, what stages of testing in one time or another place. You understand that the system should be tested missiles work on various points, heights, types of targets and so on ... What needs money in order to produce rockets for the work on each such point. That is, there were no failures or difficulties of scientific and technical nature related to long-distance missile. She passed her test in a planned manner in accordance with the documents of the Ministry of Defence, on the assumption of funding that we could ensure that the Ministry for the manufacture of these missiles. Therefore, this missile test came about three years - was a military operation for about a half dozen targets.

    This work is now finished - December 26, 2009 completed preliminary testing. And the rocket presenting at the state tests. In the third quarter of 2010, we must finish them with the fighting, of course, launches and put it into series production in the fourth quarter.

    We are puzzled look at the orgy of rumors and slander about this, when just attending workflow. And no "sinusoids" it does not, as, unfortunately, with "Bulava" ... No defeat in startups that have cast doubt on any design decisions. Launch live, she shoots. Moreover, it has developed since the 1990's, and long periods of time money at all on it have not been allocated, but we still managed and on the way changed the whole element base (rakety. - Kommersant), constructive change without extra money from the Ministry of Defense. Otherwise it at all now, would not exist. I hope with God's help, that by the end of this year, long-range missile will be in the series.

    In Soviet times, the developer is developing a system, prepared documentation on the state allocated money for technical re-equipment of production, money to prepare for mass production. And then just to pass the documentation on the plants and makes the setup party, and the first one or two samples were in the training center, the following examples - for experienced combat operation. In our case, with C-400 were not allocated any money for technical upgrading, preparation for production. Not a single school model was not done at all, but previously were not even mock-ups, and full-fledged anti-aircraft divisions. So, fire brigade is not trained in training centers, and immediately got the troops and equipment on it is studied - these are the two divisions, which today stand on the arms. Those soldiers who work for them, we must give the order, and the cooperative factories, which in my knees, no money for training, with an interval of 18 years after the last produced their divisions of S-300, on the same hardware and with the same men have managed to produce for the Russian army are several divisions and put them on combat duty.

    - And what will be the pace of further deliveries of S-400? Two battalions already have ...

    - Yes, the third will be days. In general, it depends on how we will order. This year, we supply two battalions in the next year - four, but more is still incomprehensible to us - in 2012 we have no signed contract. So today we can say that three months of 2012 we have already lost, because the technological cycle of the system is 24 months. Accordingly, if we are on April 1 did not receive an advance, then after 24 months, we will not give division. Divisions now have to be laid on the plants to get them in the first quarter of 2012. And today I have confidence that there will be signed contracts this year, no. Although it is written in the State's weapons program before 2015, which is the law.

    - Contracts for C-400 there, and since you already need a new product - C-500. What would it be for a set? Is it true that he will have the full anti-missile capabilities?

    - And about all that can be said has been said the military, because the first information about the complex C-500 went not from industry. Beyond the unveiled, we do not go. This is a mobile set of missile defense with good range and heights, which should like to "clone" the possibility of a missile defense system in the mobile version. To date, the only available defense system in Russia is, in essence, the defense system in Moscow and the Moscow industrial region. Her state of readiness is essential questions - say so. Including the age factor, and factor elements, and survivability, and the factor of time of delivery of fire (ie missiles themselves on launchers .- "b"). Therefore, the challenge now facing us put under the state program of armament - a system Triumpher-M. This theme C-500 - Theme creation of mobile anti-missile defense to be established by 2015, the system will solve these problems is in the form not stationary and not in a single performance, but will have the opportunity to nominate any threatened area - at the theater which will be alive at any given time.

    - Chief of the Air Force of Russia, Colonel General Alexander Zelin said late last year, openly expressed dissatisfaction with the program is moving C-500. You can comment on that? What it did not suit?

    - After that, Commander held an expanded meeting of the Air Force, where presentations were made by the developers of "Diamond" and I spoke, which was attended by representatives of military institutions, all the generals and the entire leadership of the Air Force, which are relevant to the topic. As a result, the parties came to an agreement: the work on C-500 are strictly in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense, and no claims to date the Ministry of Defense on this system does not. It was, rather, a misunderstanding.

    - What is the state program of the new anti-aircraft missile complex "Vityaz"?

    - History is very simple. We could not reach in time - under the previous leadership of the country until 2000 - that needed a new modern complex of medium-range missiles in Russia, since more than 50 S-300PS simply cease to exist by 2015 because achievement of deadlines operation and must be disposed of. Looking for a replacement. Not broken through. Then we won the international tender for the Americans and French in South Korea. And concluded with considerable difficulty export contract to develop for it such a complex medium-range - KM-SAM. They learned to work with imported element base - there were no restrictions. They put there successfully for two radar and now supply a third. In Korea, already under fire from their missiles at their targets.

    Prior to inviting the Defense Ministry leadership (Rossii. - "b") and shown in the shop operating a South Korean model, after which R & D work has been opened for the Russian army - with a different character and different and improved tactical and technical characteristics. This work is from 2007 in record time. We were tasked with: five years from scratch to produce a new technique. These problems were solved for five years only in times of Lavrenty Beria, when "Diamond" (the CB-1 .- "b") for five years has made the first air defense system S-25 to Moscow. Now we are working phase of the design documentation. Next year - a prototype, and in 2013 we must finish the State tests.

    - And an army air defense complexes S-300VM have at least some perspective?

    - They are not sold for export. There was a purchase of the S-300V Americans for intelligence purposes. We prefer to say so: the world voted for the dollar P-300P. At $ 4 billion were sold to dozens of systems S-300P, S-300PM, "Favorite". The priority of these systems is obvious, because changes in the nature of war. C-300B was designed, including armored vehicles to escort convoys, which would be to break up the Channel. The world has changed a long time, and we have not for a long time do not want to attack. And the need in such a technique no longer, because it is unable to fully perform their combat mission to protect the objects. And now it is developing air defense. S-300VM last made, in my opinion, in the early 1990's, since the production of this system was not.

    - But there were conversations about what they can sell Venezuela?

    - Well, how would you say here ... You can sign a contract, but it must still perform. Why is simpler in this respect with the system S-300P? Because when you are already abroad, tens of divisions, is money - and their modernization, and from their after-sales service, and their repair and servicing ... And the whole cooperative factories receives additional funding, it lives on. And this same cooperative produces C-400. Since 1991, she broke off their movement, it all the time - even in the absence of the state defense order - at the expense of exports lived. And will continue to live, because technology had already been set. And in this situation, even if you put one or two divisions of S-300B? A cooperative something on them has not worked for the past 20 years. And then it only contain in order to fulfill international obligations for maintenance of these one or two divisions?

    - A Buk "and" Thor ", which sold abroad too far not one or two divisions?

    - The answer is very short and a little bit rather tartly. I'm working with new techniques, I am doing advanced development, and I think the sale of promising developments. "Thor" and "Book" - a well-established systems that are in mass production. Therefore, it is a question of "Rosoboronexport", if there are buyers - they will be sold, and they will sell production plants. But this is outside my sphere of competence, as the head developer, I'm only thinking about the future, not about the past.

    - And for your new C-400 Peace dollar has already voted?

    - Speaking of C-400, the amount already registered applications, the number of countries and the number of divisions, which they beg them to sell at today exceed production capacity of our co-operation of industrial enterprises. Say honestly, we can not do even what they want, and what really is there to think about the prospects. But the export of C-400 - is a question primarily political. For us the priority is the Russian Army, and if these priorities will be supported by our Ministry of Defence orders, we will implement them in the first place, but no - we are ready to fulfill foreign contracts.

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    Post  sepheronx on Wed May 05, 2010 2:21 am

    ^^

    Vlad, could you please provide a summery of what this is talking about? I have read over it a couple of times, and it seems the translation is a little poor, as it is a tad bit harder to understand everything.

    After the first few questions, things got a little bit hazzy to read.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed May 05, 2010 4:37 am

    One thing I saw was that there is no government follow on order for S-400 and because it takes 24 months from order to production that means there will be a 3 month gap in 2012 when they wont be doing anything.

    That is not good.

    Another thing is clear that now that Antei has been absorbed into the company that makes the S-300P etc and joined in development of the S-400 that the S-300V and S-300VM are a dead end.

    I read on another site that the S-500 is going to be a sort of mobile Moscow defence system equivelent.

    Sounds impressive.
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    Post  Viktor on Wed May 05, 2010 11:59 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I read on another site that the S-500 is going to be a sort of mobile Moscow defence system equivelent.

    Sounds impressive.

    With 600km range and 250km atitude S-500 will be able to knock down IRBM. But hooked up to EW radars its capable of knocking down ICBM/SLBM.

    Basicly what Russia is doing is creating solid fundation for its own national missile defence shield.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed May 05, 2010 2:46 pm

    sepheronx wrote:^^

    Vlad, could you please provide a summery of what this is talking about? I have read over it a couple of times, and it seems the translation is a little poor, as it is a tad bit harder to understand everything.

    After the first few questions, things got a little bit hazzy to read.

    1) The merging of four enterprises for missile development does not go well. Excellent scientists but develop nothing new. All they do is rework Soviet technology. It is a dead end while our goal is development of advanced ABM.

    2) Average age of workers is 59 years.

    3) Long range S-400 missile will conduct state acceptance trials and hopefully will be certified for production by the end of the year.

    4) S-400 production runs 2 battery per year. Expected 4 per year. The state has not submitted orders after 2012. It takes 24 months to produce.

    5) S-500 in 2015. Covering his ass over General Zelin's comments about lack of progress on S-500.

    6) Vityaz still has no prototype made. It is supposed to be ready by 2013... yawn

    7) S-300V never sold for export

    8} Latest versions of Buk and Tor have yet to be sold.

    9) Export orders of S-400 greatly exceed production capability. Cannot even meet state orders so it is not. Priority is the Russian Army.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:12 pm

    Anti-aircraft system C -500 will form the basis of the Russian missile

    New anti-aircraft missile system S - 500, developed by Concern PVO Almaz- Antey " , will be the main component of the planned establishment of missile defense in Russia. This , as reported by Interfax , said Russian Air Force Commander Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said. He noted that Russia's defense will have little in common with a similar system, created in the U.S.. "They have different technical parameters , "- added Zelin .

    Currently, the core of the Russian air defense system of the compound and part of the Defense Army and Air Force . They are armed with anti-aircraft S-300 , C - 400 , Buk- M1, Tor- M1 , Osa AKM and Tunguska -M1 . Until the end of 2010 to the Far East will be delivered two S- 400 . According to First Deputy Defense Minister of Russia Vladimir Popovkin , a total of 2010 troops will go five sets of P - 400 .

    It is expected that production of C - 500 on the arms will begin after 2015 , when it is completed the complex. According to the former Commander of Russian Air Force , Army General Anatoly Kornukov, C- 500 will be based on the S- 400.

    Meanwhile Zelin also said that Russia is ready to supply Belarus S- 400 Triumph . This will happen in the event that Belarus will post a request to purchase systems for their air defense forces . According to the commander of the Air Force and Air Defense of Belarus major-general Igor Azarenka , Belarus is exploring several options for air defense equipment , including systems S -400. When exactly Belarus intends to begin buying Russian systems, Azarenok not specified . He also did not name the approximate number of systems planned to purchase.

    Delivery systems will be produced as part of a regional air defense system of CIS , which would cover the Eastern European area of collective security. Earlier, the Russian Air Force spokesman Lt. Col. Vladimir Drick announced that the project of the CIS unified air defense system began the creation of similar regional structures in Eastern Europe, Caucasus and Central Asian regions of collective security . According to him, the most active work is under way to create a unified air defense system of Russia and Belarus.

    It is also planned to upgrade the radar and air defense systems of Armenia , Tajikistan , Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan . According to preliminary data, in the works will involve Russian companies " Nitel " and " Almaz - Antey " . They will take deliveries of spare parts and technical equipment. It is possible that specialists " Almaz - Antey " will repair and S- 300PS , standing on the arms of Belarus .

    The formation of regional zones of the CIS anti-aircraft began in 2007 , the project to create a unified air defense agreement which was concluded in 1995. The first phase will be formed three air defense zone : Eastern European, Caucasian and Central Asian . After their creation will coordinate all the regional systems, and will be worked out rules of combat duty , and information exchange .
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:15 pm

    S-500 better not be based on the S-400, as that would make it based on the S-300. These upgrades are turning more into blocks than actual new systems.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:42 am

    I know what you mean... I was initially a little disappointed when I read that the S-500 would be based on the S-400 system.
    What I am hoping is that the S-500 system will have its own much larger perhaps multi stage missile and a few extra vehicles that can be attached to an S-400 battery. This would be a very useful way to impliment the system as it could simply be added to the existing S-400 batteries that will be operational that need it, like those around Moscow.
    By having a new missile its performance will not be restricted by the system it is based on, but then again it could simply be one of the smaller S-400 missiles (one is 40km range and the other is 120km range) mounted on top of a large missile (a 400km range missile) with a few modifications.
    I would of course prefer a designed from scratch to do the job the best that it can rather than be based on existing missiles.
    Have read in an interview that production of the S-400 will be stepped up with two new production plants being built to increase supply.

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