Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+10
walle83
Rodion_Romanovic
ALAMO
Mir
franco
PapaDragon
George1
Tsavo Lion
Isos
Big_Gazza
14 posters

    Neustrashimy class frigate

    avatar
    walle83


    Posts : 967
    Points : 975
    Join date : 2016-11-13
    Location : Sweden

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  walle83 Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:45 pm

    lancelot wrote:Any news on what the Neustrashimy refit consisted of? Is it a deep upgrade with weapon systems upgraded or just a refit to get it back to work? Given the time they took I assume the first.

    Like I said, some anti-ship missiles woudnt hurt.
    lancelot
    lancelot


    Posts : 2700
    Points : 2698
    Join date : 2020-10-18

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  lancelot Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:37 am

    The other ship of the same class as the Neustrashimy has the Kh-35 Uran. So I would assume they put that in.
    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:39 pm

    Apr 20, 13:30

    Patrol ship "Neustrashimy" of the Baltic Fleet fired missiles with the "Kinzhal" (naval variant of the system TOR) complex
    The shooting was successful, the simulated aerial target was hit

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 67097810


    KALININGRAD, April 20. /TASS/. The Neustrashimy patrol ship of the Baltic Fleet, which is undergoing sea trials, has successfully fired missiles at the Baltic sea ranges, the press service of the fleet said on Wednesday.
    "The Kinzhal anti-aircraft missile system was used in combat firing at an air target, capable of reliably providing the ship's air defense in the event of an attack by air assets of a mock enemy from various heights and directions. The simulated air target was successfully hit," the press service said in a statement.

    It is noted that the shooting was carried out in the training grounds of the Baltic Fleet near the coast of the Kaliningrad region.
    Patrol ship of the Baltic Fleet after repairs at the Yantar Baltic shipbuilding plant is undergoing a complex of acceptance tests at the fleet's sea ranges. Yantar's specialists carried out work to upgrade the mechanical part of the ship, afterburners were repaired and re-installed, as well as the armament and supporting mechanisms of the patrol ship were modernized.

    "After the tests are completed, the Neustrashimy patrol ship will return to the fleet and continue to perform tasks in accordance with its intended purpose as part of a formation of surface ships," the press service said.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14424639

    GarryB, George1 and Big_Gazza like this post

    GarryB
    GarryB


    Posts : 39017
    Points : 39513
    Join date : 2010-03-30
    Location : New Zealand

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:24 am

    Dagger is a much better air defence system than OSA, and is vastly more capable of defending a ship at sea.

    It is essentially naval TOR and is designed to fire 12-16km range command guided missiles able to hit small unpowered targets like bombs or rockets or drones or missiles very efficiently.

    It also has Pantsir/Kashtan gun/missile mounts that would also be effective in defending the ship.

    Podlodka77 likes this post

    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Wed May 25, 2022 6:36 pm

    Two news for the guard ships of the project 11540, one for the "Nesutrashimiy" and one for the "Yaroslaw the Wise"

    TASS; May 25, 16:46

    Guard ship of the Baltic Fleet "Yaroslav the Wise" carried out artillery firing at sea
    In total, he performed more than 10 combat exercises, towed and float shields became targets for him.


    KALININGRAD, May 25. /TASS/. The guard ship of the Baltic Fleet "Yaroslav the Wise" during the exercises at sea carried out artillery firing at surface targets, the press service of the fleet said on Wednesday.

    "In the sea range of the Baltic Fleet, the crew of the Yaroslav the Wise patrol ship conducted exercises during which they worked out the tasks of artillery preparation and protection of the ship when repelling attacks from a potential enemy," the press service said.

    It is noted that in total, the crew of the watchman performed more than 10 combat exercises with firing from artillery ship systems as part of the exercises on drawing an artillery battle with a surface ship of a mock enemy. Towed and float shields were used as targets.
    Earlier, as part of the planned combat training, the crew of the patrol ship practiced firing a missile system and air defense systems at ships and air targets of a mock enemy with electronic launches from the Uran strike complex, and on Tuesday successfully interacted with the crews of Ka-27 carrier-based helicopters, which performed landing on the deck of "Yaroslav the Wise" during daylight and at night.


    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14727449



    May 25, 17:22

    Guard ship "Neustrashimy" conducted tests of the hydroacoustic system at sea

    The crew paid special attention to the detection of underwater targets at long distances.


    KALININGRAD, May 25. /TASS/. The crew of the Neustrashimy guard ship of the Baltic Fleet, which is undergoing sea trials in the sea ranges of the Baltic Fleet, checked the operability and efficiency of the ship's sonar system, the press service of the fleet said on Wednesday.

    "As part of the stage of post-factory sea trials, the crew of the Neustrashimy TFR checked the performance of the hydroacoustic system designed to analyze the underwater situation, including searching for and detecting submarines, mines, torpedoes, as well as underwater saboteurs at various ranges and depths on the move, in drifting and when the ship is anchored," the press service said.

    It is noted that, in particular, the crew of the Neustrashimy, together with representatives of the plant, paid special attention to testing the capabilities of hydroacoustics to detect underwater targets at long distances.

    The press service explained that for this, several torpedoes were fired from the Aleksin small anti-submarine ship in the direction of the Neustrashimy. As a result, the guard's specialists, using the data coming from the hydroacoustic station, identified the information and interacted with other ship systems that ensure the use of weapons.

    "As a result, the hydroacoustic system confirmed its high efficiency, the task assigned to ship acoustic specialists was completed in full and with high quality," the press service commented to TASS.

    As previously reported, specialists from the Yantar Baltic shipbuilding plant in Kaliningrad carried out work to upgrade the mechanical part of the Neustrashimy guard ship. The afterburner engines were repaired and re-installed, as well as the weapons and supporting mechanisms of the patrol ship were modernized. As part of the ongoing sea trials at sea, the crew has already successfully completed artillery and rocket firing, and solved other tasks as intended. Upon completion of the entire complex of tests, the Fearless will return to the Baltic Fleet and continue to perform tasks as part of a formation of surface ships of the fleet.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14726457

    Hole likes this post

    lancelot
    lancelot


    Posts : 2700
    Points : 2698
    Join date : 2020-10-18

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  lancelot Wed May 25, 2022 10:16 pm

    No Uran launchers? It really needs the Uran launchers. Or even better UKSK VLS cells.
    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Wed May 25, 2022 10:36 pm

    lancelot wrote:No Uran launchers? It really needs the Uran launchers. Or even better UKSK VLS cells.

    It seems that there isn't, yes, which is a bit strange if we take into account that the small missile ship "Smerch", project 1234 "Ovod", also has 16 X-35 missiles. Four four-barrel launchers were placed on those ships with a full displacement of barely 650 tons. At least three more small missile ships of project 1234 will be modernized to the same standard - all for TOF (Pacific fleet).
    As for the installation of the UKSK launcher on the ships of the 11540 project, it is probably a more demanding process and the question is whether the Russians even thought about it.

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18321
    Points : 18818
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  George1 Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:12 pm

    Neustrashimy did not receive Uran

    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/275679.html

    LMFS likes this post

    caveat emptor
    caveat emptor


    Posts : 1776
    Points : 1776
    Join date : 2022-02-02
    Location : Murrica

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  caveat emptor Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:55 pm

    George1 wrote:Neustrashimy did not receive Uran

    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/275679.html
    What will be the purpose of this ship now? To do long range anti piracy patrols and escort convoys to Syria?
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11302
    Points : 11272
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Isos Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:01 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    George1 wrote:Neustrashimy did not receive Uran

    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/275679.html
    What will be the purpose of this ship now? To do long range anti piracy patrols and escort convoys to Syria?

    Anti sub missions to protect SSBN routes untill bulava start flying.

    PapaDragon and TMA1 like this post

    Mir
    Mir


    Posts : 3142
    Points : 3144
    Join date : 2021-06-10

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Mir Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:28 am

    Isos wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:
    George1 wrote:Neustrashimy did not receive Uran

    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/275679.html
    What will be the purpose of this ship now? To do long range anti piracy patrols and escort convoys to Syria?

    Anti sub missions to protect SSBN routes untill bulava start flying.

    They both serve in the Baltic so no SSBN's to protect but they do have powerful ASW role to play.
    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:15 pm

    December 28, 09:59

    Patrol ship "Neustrashimy" completed tests in the Baltic after modernization
    According to the press service of the shipyard "Yantar", the ship is being prepared for transfer to the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Navy.

    KALININGRAD, December 28. /TASS/. Patrol ship of the Baltic Fleet "Neustrashimy" completed sea acceptance tests after modernization at the Baltic Shipyard (PSZ) "Yantar" in Kaliningrad, the press service of the shipyard reported on Wednesday in its Telegram channel.

    "Specialists of the Yantar Shipyard (part of the USC) have completed sea acceptance tests of the project 11540 Neustrashimy patrol ship after the completion of scheduled repairs and modernization," the report says.

    It is noted that during the tests on the ship, the operability of navigation aids, radar surveillance and target detection, an artillery complex, an anti-aircraft missile system, traffic control means, damage control means, means of radiation chemical and biological protection, communication complexes was checked.

    "In order to check the readiness of the ship to repulse the means of air attack of the enemy, the Neustrashimy ship fired an anti-aircraft missile system," the press service said.

    After the events, the ship is being prepared for transfer to the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Navy.

    TFR "Neustrashimy" - the lead ship of project 11540, built at the shipyard "Yantar" in 1990. Since 1991, it has been part of the Baltic Fleet.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/16703771

    Google translator translates the text as "patrol ship" although it should properly be GUARD ship..


    Big_Gazza, ALAMO, LMFS, Hole and Broski like this post

    avatar
    ALAMO


    Posts : 6722
    Points : 6812
    Join date : 2014-11-25

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  ALAMO Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:17 pm

    Sad thing is that there were two more of this class unfinished, and towed away to the other bay in the shipyard where those are rusting for the last 25 years. Just hulls were left when I was there.
    Saw them both.

    Podlodka77 likes this post

    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:24 pm

    There was one more project 11540 ship "Tuman" (Fog) but was never finished.....
    This is a text from April 2016


    Two warships with up to 50% technical readiness will be scrapped at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad. This was announced today, April 15, by Eduard Yefimov, General Director of the enterprise, at a meeting with regional journalists at the Rossiyskaya Gazeta office.

    The Tuman patrol ship and the Borodino training ship, which was also originally designed as a patrol ship, will go on pins and needles. The ships laid down by the Russian Ministry of Defense in the 1990s were never completed and today the defense department has recognized them as obsolete.


    “For the plant, these ships are a burden, because they occupy our production areas,” Yefimov commented. “We could put other ships to these quay walls and deal with orders for the same Ministry of Defense or for a civilian customer.”

    IA REGNUM clarifies that the Tuman guard ship, named after the legendary ship-hero of the Great Patriotic War in the Northern Fleet, began to be built at Yantar in 1990, but at the end of 1993, due to the cessation of funding, work was stopped. At the same time, the overall technical readiness of the ship was 47%.



    https://web.archive.org/web/20180412001146/https://news.mail.ru/economics/25479808/?frommail=1
    Rodion_Romanovic
    Rodion_Romanovic


    Posts : 2419
    Points : 2586
    Join date : 2015-12-30
    Location : Merkelland

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:39 pm

    Exactly, probably Russia did not even have the engines for them. Furthermore they were an old project. It make sense to keep the ones already built operative, but there was too much to do to finish them and more modern ships had the priority.

    By the way, this was tuman in 2016.

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Projec10

    littlerabbit, Hole and Podlodka77 like this post

    avatar
    ALAMO


    Posts : 6722
    Points : 6812
    Join date : 2014-11-25

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  ALAMO Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:44 pm

    I'm trying to remind myself if the other hulk out there was Mudry, but you know, that was almost 30 years ago ...

    There were two hulls for sure, and none of those looked like what you showed Rodion scratch

    I suppose that the yard tried to get some interest from an export customer for a while, they have represented a few potential end-line solutions to those hulls. 11541 etc. So they have for sure invested in that, because both hulls I saw were lacking the superstructures.
    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:57 pm

    То Alamo

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 49038310

    The hulls of the unfinished patrol ship Tuman of project 11540 and the training ship Borodino of project 12441U (originally the patrol ship Novik of project 12441) are now moored on board near the wall of PJSC Baltic Shipbuilding Plant Yantar. Kaliningrad, 11/14/2017 (c) kaliningradblog.livejournal.com

    There were also....


    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 49034010

    The hulls of the frigates "Admiral Istomin" (serial number 01361) and "Admiral Kornilov" (serial number 01362) of the modified project 11356, suspended by the construction, were launched at the Yantar Baltic Shipbuilding Plant PJSC. Kaliningrad, 11/14/2017 (c) kaliningradblog.livejournal .com

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbmpd.livejournal.com%2F2955745.html&psig=AOvVaw3fD06h8HtB0J5bc9oEzPZH&ust=1672329099637000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBEQjhxqFwoTCMih9ujVnPwCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

    GarryB, franco, kvs, ALAMO, Rodion_Romanovic, zardof and Hole like this post

    Big_Gazza
    Big_Gazza


    Posts : 4647
    Points : 4639
    Join date : 2014-08-25
    Location : Melbourne, Australia

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Patrol ship "Neustrashimy" completed tests in the Baltic after modernization

    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:27 pm

    ALAMO wrote:I'm trying to remind myself if the other hulk out there was Mudry, but you know, that was almost 30 years ago ...

    There were two hulls for sure, and none of those looked like what you showed Rodion scratch

    I suppose that the yard tried to get some interest from an export customer for a while, they have represented a few potential end-line solutions to those hulls. 11541 etc. So they have for sure invested in that, because both hulls I saw were lacking the superstructures.

    Yeah, when the USSR folded the two unfinished hulls were Mudry and Tuman.  They completed Mudry as she was more complete but Tuman was mothballed.

    Podlodka77 wrote:The hulls of the unfinished patrol ship Tuman of project 11540 and the training ship Borodino of project 12441U (originally the patrol ship Novik of project 12441) are now moored on board near the wall of PJSC Baltic Shipbuilding Plant Yantar.

    Novik class? Shocked  Truth be told I've never heard of it...  It's not everyday that I learn of a planned class of Soviet-era ships that I had no idea even existed Laughing

    Podlodka77 wrote:The hulls of the frigates "Admiral Istomin" (serial number 01361) and "Admiral Kornilov" (serial number 01362) of the modified project 11356, suspended by the construction, were launched at the Yantar Baltic Shipbuilding Plant PJSC

    Its a pity that the 2nd set of 3x Pr.11356R won't join the Russian navy, but Butakov (Tushil) and Isotomin (Tamala) will be finished and sold to India, so thats the next best thing. Not sure if it has yet been confirmed if India is buying the Kornilov as well?
    Podlodka77
    Podlodka77


    Posts : 2589
    Points : 2591
    Join date : 2022-01-06
    Location : Z

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:52 pm

    On board the patrol ship "Neustrashimy" a lesson was held with officers of the Baltic Fleet
    January 17, 2023 at 7:50 Subject: Navy

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Eaa_au10


    On board the Neustrashimy patrol ship, under the guidance of the commander of the Baltic Fleet, Admiral Viktor Liina, a demonstration lesson was held on the methods of receiving and evaluating the first task of the surface ship combat training course. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the event was attended by the heads of departments, departments and services of the Baltic Fleet, commanders of formations, chiefs of staff, as well as commanders of ships of the 1st and 2nd ranks, their senior assistants and chief specialists of the naval formations of the Baltic Fleet.

    The military department added that during the lesson, the participants were brought to the requirements of the guidelines for organizing the verification of the basic training of ships. Then the commander of the Baltic Fleet, Admiral Viktor Liina, personally checked the quality and completeness of the development of course tasks on the ship, assessed the skills of the personnel in organizing issues of daily activities.

    The crew of the "Neustrashimy" conducted exercises and training to prepare the ship for the voyage, to fight for survivability when moored at the pier, and to defend the ship against sabotage at the basing point.
    The combat and daily organization of the ship is the basis for preparing the crew to perform tasks for their main purpose, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation noted. It involves working out actions to prepare a ship for a battle and a campaign, to shoot from anchor and mooring lines, carry out air defense measures, fight for survivability in conditions of parking in a base, organize personnel actions in conditions of radiation, chemical and biological contamination, conduct anti-sabotage defense and many other elements.

    Similar classes are held annually in accordance with the requirements of the Navy High Command. In addition to developing a common understanding among the command staff and specialists of the organization of testing, acceptance and evaluation of the course task, this event allows for a complete check of the quality of the maintenance of the ship and assess the preparedness of its crew for actions according to its intended purpose, the military department added.

    Recall that the lead patrol ship of project 11540 Neustrashimy, built in 1993 at Yantar, arrived at its native shipyard in 2014 for modernization. It was planned to return it to service at the end of 2016, however, the fault detection revealed the need for a large amount of additional work and the transfer of the TFR was postponed until November 2017. Then it was about 2018-2019.

    In February 2021, the general director of Yantar, Ilya Samarin, said that Neustrashimy should be handed over to the Navy by the end of the year, but these deadlines could not be met either.

    The Fearless began sea trials in mid-February 2022. In early April, information appeared that the ship should return to service by the end of the month, but later shipyard representatives said that the TFR would be handed over to the Navy by mid-May. As a result, the tests of the ship were completed only in December.

    https://flot.com/2023/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%821/

    GarryB, flamming_python and kvs like this post

    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18321
    Points : 18818
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  George1 Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:22 pm

    GarryB, zardof and Hole like this post


    Sponsored content


    Neustrashimy class frigate - Page 2 Empty Re: Neustrashimy class frigate

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Thu May 02, 2024 1:35 am