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    Post  VARGR198 Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:53 pm

    limb wrote:
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    Out of everything, why abandon SPGs?

    It probably brokedown and they had to abandon it as it couldn't be recovered in time.

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    Post  ATLASCUB Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:56 pm

    Once heads start to roll at the very top of the Ukranian regime(both political and military command) by the hand of SVR assets and military surgical strikes as a concerted hunting effort to decapitate top regime leadership is the day the dimwitts here can safely say, Russia is making real efforts towards winning, and victory is on the horizon. Until then... you're wasting your breath reading any propaganda garbage or hot take there is, or obessing about this skirmish or that one, this offensive or that counter-offensive. What at best you'll get is a frozen conflict/negotiated solution.


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    Post  Backman Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:57 pm

    Shills have taken over again

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:58 pm

    Regular wrote:With all the rear staging attacks, how do UA still has fuel and supply for this motorised thrust?
    Kremenchug can produce 7500 tons of fuel/day. Plus, imports from Poland and Romania.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:01 pm

    As for equipment, they didn't lose that much considering size of the withdrawal. Probably, half of tank battalion plus some other stuff.
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:01 pm

    lyle6 wrote:
    Ukrainian counter-battery in action: eat hundreds of shells to the face causing barrel consumption and fatigue amongst artillery crews.
    Only advance when you've more targets than the Russians shells Razz

    You know, as the air aces of theirs can "gallantry" falling down in flames, the troopers can take a 152 cal on the face with the same gallantery Laughing
    The Twitter Task Force see no issue in that narrative Laughing Laughing

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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:04 pm



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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:05 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23 - Page 40 FcYyqUVWQAIJEb8?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
    In 4 days!

    Everyone who is for a multipolar world who is against the fascists in Ukraine and NATO, he wonders ...

    What shoud that?

    Which fucker in the Russian military is responsible for this?
    No matter whether there were hardly any losses on soldiers and material.
    The Ukrainians can also rebel and do it somewhere else.

    Panic or not, that is failure on a complete line. This damages everyone who gives support here on the axis of the resistance.

    This only helps NATO pussies.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:12 pm

    It's utterly sad the fanboys here cannot admit a colossal mistake was made and look at the cost.

    You better pray Russia declares war and sends in the PROPER amount of forces and starts treating this like a dam war.

    If after all this you still cannot admit russia made a huge blunder, your are delusional to a fault.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:13 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

    Which fucker in the Russian military is responsible for this?

    The ones that are sitting there in the first row, have access to the first-hand data and have been trained in that for a whole career.
    Sure you can do much better.
    Take a train with Arch, straight ahead to Gudermes.
    Sorry, they don't recruit generals at the moment Laughing

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:It's utterly sad the fanboys here cannot admit a colossal mistake was made and look at the cost.
    You better pray Russia declares war and sends in the PROPER amount of forces and starts treating this like a dam war.
    If after all this you still cannot admit russia made a huge blunder, your are delusional to a fault.

    Oh, a conversation with ghosts, again ...

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:14 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

    Which fucker in the Russian military is responsible for this?

    The ones that are sitting there in the first row, have access to the first-hand data and have been trained in that for a whole career.
    Sure you can do much better.
    Take a train with Arch, straight ahead to Gudermes.
    Sorry, they don't recruit generals at the moment Laughing

    annnnnnd yet they let this happen, sounds like to me the ones in the first row need to be replaced with capable commanders
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    Post  Isos Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:17 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    Mad

    Told you. Su-34 and su-30 have no room for modern bathlefield. They are huge and easy to target for radar systems.

    Would be the same for f-15.

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    Post  limb Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:21 pm

    Isos wrote:
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    Mad

    Told you. Su-34 and su-30 have no room for modern bathlefield. They are huge and easy to target for radar systems.

    Would be the same for f-15.

    By that logic the rafale, EF-18 and EF typhoon are worthless trash too.
    Radar can be jammed and destroyed.
    Also this could be a fake.

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    Post  Backman Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:23 pm

    Maybe a sign of a change

    Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov lost power on entire region

    After the missile strikes of the Russian Armed Forces, the light also disappeared in Kremenchug, Poltava region. There were three explosions in the city.

    According to preliminary data, electrical substations were the targets of the strikes.

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    Post  Backman Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:26 pm

    According to local sources, a thermal power plant in Zmiev was hit.

    Also, arrivals were recorded at Kharkov CHPP-5, which is one of the largest combined heat and power plants in Ukraine.
    #Russia #Ukraine #Kharkov
    @rybar

    Poltava, Sumy, Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkov regions - interruptions or complete absence of power

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:27 pm

    Gloves are off.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23 - Page 40 4XF

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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:32 am

    If Russia was laying a trap, they would not have abandoned everything west of Oskil river..

    They weren't laying a trap as much as they were reacting to an attack which killed thousands of the attackers and limited their own human casualties.

    You and some others are really trying hard to imply that we are casulaties of enemy propaganda or some such.

    You seem to believe everything you read and are keen to repeat it here... if you are not casualties then you are just supporters of western propaganda...

    If this is just like the sumy and chernigov withdrawal, this means that russia won't come back to the kharkov region at all, because they never counterattacked at sumy or chernigov either. Kharkov is lost for good or at least for a very long time.

    There is a difference between "like" and "exactly the same as"....

    With all the rear staging attacks, how do UA still has fuel and supply for this motorised thrust?

    They all appear to be walking...

    It's utterly sad the fanboys here cannot admit a colossal mistake was made and look at the cost.

    The tactics have been to lightly occupy areas, and when the enemy attacks they fall back while firing and destroying the enemy as they move away with their weapons and also artillery and air power.

    In this case the Orcs attacked with more men than they could deal with so they retreated a bit further than normal... equipment can be replaced... as long as there are not excessive Russian losses this is not a big deal.

    If after all this you still cannot admit russia made a huge blunder, your are delusional to a fault.

    Their advantage is their mobility and fire power advantages... having more men there wont improve that.


    Told you. Su-34 and su-30 have no room for modern bathlefield. They are huge and easy to target for radar systems.

    You don't even know what happened, and to be fair anything that can shoot down an Su-34 could shoot down a Rafale too... or will France donate some Rafales to help Kiev win the war?



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