Russian special military operation in Ukraine #14

kvs wrote:The Kiev regime was going to attack Crimea and not just the LDNR.   Sure, this sounds implausible, but we are not dealing
with a government that cares about Ukraine.  
Ukraine in its Soviet borders would have lasted if it did not go off the rails in 2004.   The 2014 coup was just a coming out party.
Nobody with a clue or malicious agenda would consider the political vector in Ukraine over the last 20+ years as sane.   Russia
was forced to deal with this rotting pustule on its border.

We live 80 years after the beginning of WW2, still, the history taught is different for any country involved.
How much attention will the Russian claim about invasion attract outside Russia?
It is irrelevant, and trying to play with it will not be understood.
It would require a confession of the whole European political caste and NATO including, that they have used a country in Europe to unleash a major proxy war. Deluding it first, how strong and fraternal the friendship between them is.
Nobody will admit that openly.
Russia did what it did, because wanted and had the strength for it. Dot.
If someone doesn't like that, well ... Crimea River

UK to transfer to Ukraine from the presence of the British army a batch of Stormer HVM self-propelled air defense systems, with StarStreak missiles.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4517312.html

I do think Strelkov's criticisms about the lack of mobilization are valid.

Werewold wrote:
Russia is suffering and fighting an EXISTENTIAL war and we are already in WW3. It is a NATO vs Russia war and currently concentrated in the Ukraine, but the chances it will spread do exist and they are tip-toeing around this possibility.
Russia needs to demand a lot and these "lot" will be initiation of the End of NATO just like Putin initiated the End and downfall of the US Empire.

One drink on me once Poland or Turkey will leave/pushed to leave NATO!

We are not yet in WW3 like you say, yet we are no longer in the Old World that ALAMO purports either

Where we are is a very dangerous twilight zone in between and its of utmost importance for Russia to define the boundaries of the conflict and contain it. Prevent anyone else entering the war. But making threats to fry X numbers of different nationalities is not the way to do it. Simply put, if there are attacks on the Russian military, then the Russian military will respond. And where the Russian military can end up - so far anywhere on the territory of the Ukraine, and potentially now anywhere on the territory of Pridnestrovie.

Russian salient south of Izium enlarging

https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1518940071591829505?fbclid=IwAR1cw6xR5ICKHRdLbLYnsyOROTpUbWZV3iKL2t8pUGAqStLkO5lsiTONs4Y

Arkanghelsk wrote:In Pridnestrovie, due to the terrorist threat, the Victory Parade on May 9 was canceled.

Good, and tbh same with Moscow, wtf will happen if a bayraktar bombs our parade?

The VSU near Kharkov is a priority target and either forces must be committed to it or more terrorism will happen

This is the consequences of the Kiev withdrawal

Bayraktar? More likely some pidar from Aidar.

Victory parade can wait IMHO, it would be bit tasteless to have a parade, but a controlled commemoration. Blame it on covid.

zorobabel wrote:I do think Strelkov's criticisms about the lack of mobilization are valid.

They are valid and e isn't wrong only armchair experts and fanboys would think otherwise

flamming_python wrote:

We are not yet in WW3 like you say, yet we are no longer in the Old World that ALAMO purports either

Where we are is a very dangerous twilight zone in between and its of utmost importance for Russia to define the boundaries of the conflict and contain it. Prevent anyone else entering the war. But making threats to fry X numbers of different nationalities is not the way to do it. Simply put, if there are attacks on the Russian military, then the Russian military will respond. And where the Russian military can end up - so far anywhere on the territory of the Ukraine, and potentially now anywhere on the territory of Pridnestrovie.

Well, I would say the same, but with slightly different words.
The situation is neither as good nor as bad as described by committed sources, even if they want to do their job fair&honest.

And I suppose that the goals of the operation are clear to anyone now - yet those are not the same ones the Russkies had at the beginning.
Each time I encourage anyone to hear carefully what Putin is saying. He draws this scenario long before the war. If Ukraine won't stop behaving like a madman, it will cease to exist in its known territorial structure.
And if they will do even more stupid things - they will cease to exist as a country.
As easy as that. Openly stated a long, long time ago.

As for details, for example, there must be a balance between not showing melted Ukrainian soldiers, and showing them in the numbers we have now.
It is a bloody meatgrinder, and ordinary people with sane minds are starting simply to feel pity for them.
I see dead bodies of guys in their late 40s, unequipped, unarmed, with a mix of civilian clothes and some military ones ...
That is a picture of misery and defeat.
On the other hand, I know that those pictures are not presented to the zombified Ukro nation, and those poor bastards really believe that they are winning.
Still, it does not matter, because even if you will present them with bloodied personal documents, they will consider those as Russian fakes. That is the level of brainwashing. So they really need tons of dead corpses scattered into pieces to ignite some common sense, delivered by the orphans, widows and family members looking for the remains buried with no names somewhere in Lugansk

The other case is the propaganda attacks on Russian soil. We all know, that those are suicide missions in most of cases, and they will run out of assets very soon. Russkies are closing the corridors at the moment, with Odessa and Dnestr being taken soon, a two whole directions will be cut.
The only resupply route will be via Poland and Slovakia, as Hungary closed the border for military assistance. That is about 400 km, with few roads and railways - possible to cover from Belarus. Connecting Transdnestria opens some new possibilities either.

At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

I mean you could kill him but it wouldn't really accomplish much, in a war defeating the opposing army is key, killing the leaders wont matter as they'll find replacements.

mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

I would say it's because Russia hasn't declared full on war with Ukraine yet. But I would imagine that he would be open target. Mind you, I truly do not think he is in Ukraine. Along with that, I think the Russians are trying to build up a hate towards Zelensky thus keeping him alive so that view of him in sane parts of Ukraine plummet.

A guess.

mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

That`s not the point.
That ass-clown should be kept alive so RF could have some "legitimate" head of state of former Ukraine to sign terms of unconditional surrender.
If and when it comes to that no acutal "Ukraine" will further be - he may be eliminated. But then again, anything gained by doing that, given that actual decisions are made by US stuff around him, might not outweight making him a martyr. It may be wiser to let him flee and fade into oblivion in shade as media persona.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine can strike Russia with British arms – UK

Armed Forces Minister James Heappey dismissed warnings of nuclear war and gave Ukraine permission to use UK weapons inside Russia

This is floundering by Russian elite

andwhy shouldn't ukraine be allowed to? they are at war with russia.

When you are at war, home soil is a fair target.

If the Russians wanna stop this then they should stop their pussyfooting

Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukraine can strike Russia with British arms – UK

Armed Forces Minister James Heappey dismissed warnings of nuclear war and gave Ukraine permission to use UK weapons inside Russia

This is floundering by Russian elite

The withdrawal of Kiev has led to a situation where diversionary and sabotage groups are crossing from Sumy and Chernigov into Russia

And conducting these attacks

Then it is up to Russia to protect its borders, now isnt it?

Also, maybe striking at UK shipping of these weapons as well.

mnztr wrote:At this point shouldn't leadership of Ukraine become targets? Zelensky is an impediment at this point and at least the minsters around him should be targets...I mean...this is a war right?

Most probably majority of them are already in NATO countries like Poland or even City of London like Zelensky and his predecessor jewish oligarchs and therefore untouchable.

Like Seig said, it wouldn't change much for the situation, but they certainly need to be punished.

I guess it would be more useful for the situation to see Zelensky selling out the Ukraine so the zombified Ukrainians may have a slight chance of waking up. I know that is very optimistic. Cleansing requires a lot more time and more drastic actions. It is clear that this will not be accepted by anyone not even normal people if there are no Nürnberger Trials in the end of the operation.

US said today, they won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/26/us-wont-rule-out-military-action-if-china-establishes-base-in-solomon-islands?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1650947312

Solomon Islands is 1000s of miles from US. But [according to the West] Russia is violating "rules based global order" by reacting to NATO coming to share a border with it.