Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11

More stuff moving into positions.

Shtil against Bakshish drone. Moving the command post in broad daylight and think they can surprise someone. Bandera clowns.

Foreign mercenaries should be executed on the spot, Orc conscripts that surrender should be spared and the Neonazi scum they manage to catch can be put on trial and most likely executed by firing squad afterwards to make an example of them. Denazification of Banderistan will take at least one generation but 2022 is a good time to start.

Most of the conscripts will be released, officers might get some jail time, nazis will be put into Dolfin-style prisons, foreigners probably be used as a bargaining chip, if they will survive capture that is. Chechens and foreign mercenaries who fought against Russia faced law after the war so it's not something unique, knowing Russia they are already opening cases against some of them as we speak.

Afghan merc in the Ukraine

https://t.me/mapsukraine/93

There are apparently a lot of them besieged in Mariupol, 37 in Azovstal according to WarGonzo

Former Gani govt. fighters, who were evacuated to the US, joined a private military company, and were then sent to the Ukraine

For them it's an easy fix though. After doing their time they can be shipped back to their country of origin. To now Talibanland.

And that British merc who was whinging has surrendered now apparently

https://t.me/mapsukraine/87

So we have confirmation of Afghans, Brits, very likely French there as well. Wonder who else will be found. Croatians most probably, there were a bunch of Croatian Nazis serving in Azov.

Hole wrote:


TOS-1 belongs to the chemical troops.

The correct name is: Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops.

Regular wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

Regular wrote:Strategic bombers were used in both Chechen wars, I don't see why not to use them now?

And hit what exactly?

Enemy concentrations, fortifications. Much cheaper than cruise missile strikes. Tactical level targets too. Or you are saying that there are only targets of opportunity now?

I'm saying it isn't much cheaper and more likely to kill civilian population. Otherwise, they are dropping munitions from planes as is.

The operation in Ukraine will continue until it is fully completed and the goals set at the very beginning are achieved - Putin

Good that he spoke

sepheronx wrote:

Regular wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

Regular wrote:Strategic bombers were used in both Chechen wars, I don't see why not to use them now?

And hit what exactly?

Enemy concentrations, fortifications. Much cheaper than cruise missile strikes. Tactical level targets too. Or you are saying that there are only targets of opportunity now?

I'm saying it isn't much cheaper and more likely to kill civilian population. Otherwise, they are dropping munitions from planes as is.

Sometimes I wonder if they're just holding back for image reasons.

Multiple western officials have accused Russia of "bombing indiscriminately" etc, when in fact they have hardly done any bombing at all, and as for their strikes in general, nothing has been "indiscriminate"..

Russia seems to be determined to prove them wrong, but it doesn't really matter except morally, and if karma exists. Westerners will believe the BS fed to them about this even 10-15 years from now, and any objective assessments will fall on deaf ears, so in practice won't matter either.

The South Ossetian conflict really showed this. Media and politicians to this day bring it up, using a form of rhetoric that can only mean that they're either lying or that they are completely unaware of why it went down and how it went down (in which case they shouldn't open their mouths at all).

Deliberate, bald-faced lies make up most of it. It's frightening, really.

In The US sphere of influence( north america, europe, japan, SK, Aus and NZ…) they have complete and total control of information, and have used it for years to condition their populations, it also helps them that the majority have  zero ability for critical thinking so it wasn't that hard to turn them into zombies.
covid was essentially a massive compliance test run and it was successful precisely because of that.
There is absolutely nothing Russia can do to educate these people with the truth, I myself have given up , they are past brainwashed.
Russia should worry about their own people and dispense with any effort in trying to appeal to these apes, because even if the truth suddenly wasn’t censored, ignored or purposely misinterpreted as it is now, they still wouldn’t  believe it, they are too far gone.

Arkanghelsk wrote:The operation in Ukraine will continue until it is fully completed and the goals set at the very beginning are achieved - Putin

Good that he spoke

Hit them raw, never gently

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

Regular wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

Regular wrote:Strategic bombers were used in both Chechen wars, I don't see why not to use them now?

And hit what exactly?

Enemy concentrations, fortifications. Much cheaper than cruise missile strikes. Tactical level targets too. Or you are saying that there are only targets of opportunity now?

I'm saying it isn't much cheaper and more likely to kill civilian population. Otherwise, they are dropping munitions from planes as is.

Sometimes I wonder if they're just holding back for image reasons.

Multiple western officials have accused Russia of "bombing indiscriminately" etc, when in fact they have hardly done any bombing at all, and as for their strikes in general, nothing has been "indiscriminate"..

Russia seems to be determined to prove them wrong, but it doesn't really matter except morally, and if karma exists. Westerners will believe the BS fed to them about this even 10-15 years from now, and any objective assessments will fall on deaf ears, so in practice won't matter either.

The South Ossetian conflict really showed this. Media and politicians to this day bring it up, using a form of rhetoric that  can only mean that they're either lying or that they are completely unaware of why it went down and how it went down (in which case they shouldn't open their mouths at all).

Deliberate, bald-faced lies make up most of it. It's frightening, really.

Not exactly.

It has been said before but essentially Russia lives next to these people.  And their plan is to form a state or series of states out of Ukraine - best guess is Novorussia where each state within the Novorussian state will have a form of autonomy thus making it a republic.  Anyway, in order to create this and have them be pro Russian or willing to host Russian military and what not (even if the line between what is Ukrainian and Russian is very blurred in historic terms), then Russia cannot start mass killing civilians and indiscriminately bombing buildings.  While some members here have a "who cares lets kill them all mentality", they have zero idea what would happen next.  Because they think that these people will become servitudes to Russia afterwards regardless how many die and that they will be like Germany or Japan is to USA, no matter if the country is flattened.  But that isn't the case.  Eastern Europeans are rather very smart.  And while you can have a servitude government like in Pakistan, the population will do as it please to make it difficult for lives of Americans in the country or pushing back at the USA who makes demands - this would apply to Russia and the remnants of Ukraine.  So in order to win on both ends, you have to have cooperation with both the government and the people or you will simply result in the Ukraine of 2014 all over again.

I am under the impression, much like the Russian government is, that doing things limited not only to prevent over exposure to the west, but also to prevent major disasters and a humanitarian crisis at your own border to years to come isn't the smart solution.  And if you follow telegram channels then you will see many of them are Ukrainians after liberation coming out and telling what was happening under Ukraine and Azov.  So this is a general thought and growing.  Most Ukrainians who are for Azov and the current state are the ones who have either already fled the country to Poland and Romania or others, and or the eurocentrists whom are either already gone or live in western Ukraine around Lviv.

Take it for as you will.

Serberus wrote:In The US sphere of influence( north america, europe, japan, SK, Aus and NZ…) they have complete and total control of information, and have used it for years to condition their populations, it also helps them that the majority have  zero ability for critical thinking so it wasn't that hard to turn them into zombies.
covid was essentially a massive compliance test run and it was successful precisely because of that.
There is absolutely nothing Russia can do to educate these people with the truth, I myself have given up , they are past brainwashed.
Russia should worry about their own people and dispense with any effort in trying to appeal to these apes, because even if the truth suddenly wasn’t censored, ignored or purposely misinterpreted as it is now, they still wouldn’t  believe it, they are too far gone.

This is the kicker - the proclaimed "atrocities" that the west claims isn't for Russian audience or Ukrainian audience but for western audience. Regardless what Russia does, they have zero control or influence in the information sphere west of eastern Ukraine. Even if tomorrow, Russia funds 100's of NGO's to fund 1000's of media organizations all by different names and in hundreds of different languages, it still wont actually resolve the issue at all. The information will still be dominant by the US because in the end - those sites, ngo's, news agencies and what not would all be shut down because the major streaming platforms are in California. Even if Russia funds streaming services, it may make a little dent. I guess alternatively, they can fund along with India a social media platform that works in India where they can host Indian based news agencies that are telling Russia's side of the story. But even then, Indians are fully aware that most of their media is owned by USA or UK and that what they are fed is manure. So it doesn't resolve the issue either cause these foreign agencies and or sites will be outed rather quickly.

So in the end, what matters is what Russians and average Ukrainians think on this conflict. And while all those Ukrainian expats can run around with Ukrainian flags in Germany or Poland screaming "Slava Ukraini" as loud and obnoxious as they can, it wont solve a single thing and all they will do is alienate the hosting nations people eventually. Especially how idiotic they can act in those nations making demands while being a guest (something most should not do but Ukrainians are too thick headed to realize this).

Here is another video of the selfie tank incident, this time from the POV of one of the deceased. What do you guys think? Friendly fire or a Russian tank?

Videos with potentially shocking content should be labelled properly as not safe for work and that there is a potential to offend or upset.
GarryB
https://t.me/swodki/67576

zorobabel wrote:Here is another video of the selfie tank incident, this time from the POV of one of the deceased. What do you guys think? Friendly fire or a Russian tank?

https://t.me/swodki/67576

FF
Looks like there another two? tanks behind the one that fired so if it was Russians doubt the Ukrops would still control the area shortly after. Plus looks like a T64.
Blue ribbons are clearly visible, machine gunner didn’t seem concerned on top of the tank either
Tank gunner probably got spooked by seeing the Russian APC and not knowing it was knocked assumed they were Russians and let it rip.
Still bizarre however you look at it, this angle makes it even more so.

zorobabel wrote:Here is another video of the selfie tank incident, this time from the POV of one of the deceased. What do you guys think? Friendly fire or a Russian tank?

https://t.me/swodki/67576

Let me speculate!

Guy filming says - hopefully, they won't shoot at us. Hopefully, they won't "phograph" us.

0:17 - "Hey, come here, if you need anything, take trophies home, tell them that you killed "separatist"


Ok, so it looks like TC is out. Why? Why it's getting closer? If infantry is so close? 0:58 you can see the tank aiming its cannon. It seems it has a white mark at the front and the camo is dark as on Russian tanks. But then again, the Russian tank would just stop, ID, and then shoot at them without TC exposing them. Also, Ukrainians wouldn't be able to come back to the same location and cry about it.

I am even more confused now, not as these at the receiving end.

zorobabel wrote:Here is another video of the selfie tank incident, this time from the POV of one of the deceased. What do you guys think? Friendly fire or a Russian tank?

https://t.me/swodki/67576

It looks most like a Ukrainian T-64B 2017 model, of which they have in service maybe a couple hundred (well a lot less now).



And that white square thing on the front doesn't look like a Z. Although it's a bit low-res the whole thing

But more than anything based on the soldiers' laissez-faire attitude I think it's definitely a case of friendly fire. Plus there were videos of the aftermath by other Ukrainians, which there wouldn't be if the position was overrun.

Looks like "friendly" fire. Crazy stuff. RIP.

ATLASCUB wrote:Looks like "friendly" fire. Crazy stuff. RIP.

Yep pretty crazy. One second you are chilling with your buddies. The next you are minced meat.