Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11

PapaDragon wrote:
If my damn phone didn't try to autolog on this forum a week ago I would have no Idea that my permaban was tweaked to one month, nice one

I do have to say that it's pretty interesting experience when you get angry for Russia wasting lives of it's soldiers in needless land war around Kiev and getting banned for it only for Shoigu himself to go on record couple of days later and say that you have been right all along  


So here are my 2 cents on several things:

The original mistake: Not exterminating VSU in Debaltseve 6 years ago and expanding control to entire Donetsk and Lughansk regions which would have created stable areas of control and would preempt all of this this  

Instead they took some scraps of land and pretended everything was cool while locals were getting slaughtered, FFS they didn't even took the control of Donetsk city, damn place is still getting shelled



The facts: Ukranian population is overwhelmingly composed of Nazis and any effort to spare them of being collateral damage is a waste of time and lives as these last 30 days have shown

That insanely disciplined radio silence religiously adhered to by entire Ukranian population is one of many evidences of this, one word from Zelensky and they all stopped posting immediately, oppressed civilians my ass...



What Russia should have done: If it's true that Ukraine was planning to attack Donbass Russia should have waited until they started and used that opportunity to launch mass aerial campaign to exterminate attacking VSU and spend at least a month on it until every last thing capable of using firearm was dead before committing any ground troops

Instead they sent their soldiers to race in like some stereotypical videogame NPC into pre-prepared ambushes and get slaughtered over nothing just because some old commies in Moscow thought that 30 million Nazis would be happy to see them

Instead of spending weeks and weeks bombing the Ukranians into the ground they decided to flush the lives of their soldiers down the toilet by sending them to the slaughter without and artillery or air support



What is at stake now: Whatever original plan or assumptions were it turned out to be complete horseshit and Russia is now in much bigger fight than they expected to be (which came as no surprise whatsoever to everyone but them)

Only way to achiever victory now is to keep the war going at all costs and not to stop until they reach Polish border, Ukraine can't be allowed to keep existing after this

If they fail to do this they will lose not just this war but their own statehood, USA and EU will get the chance to finish what they didn't manage to back in the 90s



How to win the war: They win this war just like every single war ever fought was won which is by killing the enemy

No pussyfooting, no crying over collateral damage, no humanitarian bullshit, start killing the Ukrainian military and keep killing them until there is nothing left, when they bring in fresh troops kill them too and keep doing it until every single moron dumb enough to resist is dead

If any ''civilian'' is still dumb enough to stay close to VSU then they are free to drop dead, they made their choice

Kill every single Ukrainian politician that shows up under drone camera

Not a single part of Ukraine can be allowed to stay independent otherwise EU will turn it into another West Germany and keep pouring free cash there to f*ck with Russia for decades to come




Syria made the world fear Russian conventional military again

This war has shredded any idea of conventional Russian deterrence down the shitter, USA and especially Europe no longer fear Russian military and prevailing line of thinking now is that if Ukraine can fight off Russia then it would be a cakewalk for NATO even without USA

It is a disaster and is also eroding Russian nuclear deterrence: if Russia is seen as too cowardly to take out Ukraine they will also be seen as afraid to use nuclear weapons if attacked by NATO which is invitation to war


Only way to correct this perception (and it absolutely must be corrected and fast) is to start stacking corpses and to stack them high, every single Ukrainian goon has to be killed ASAP and they need to start with that pocket in the East and then move westwards to finish the job no matter how long it takes

Russia will not bee seen as viable military power again unless the put at least 100k Nazis into the ground and advertise it as loud as possible

If they don't this will become Winter War 2 and I don’t need to tell you what happened as a result of that fiasco

Pussyfooting has to end otherwise Russia will end

flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/24878

In the Dnieper (former and future Dnepropetrovsk) there is an unreal commotion.  All patrol cars of the national police were pulled up to the monument to Pushkin, on which unknown people put the symbol of the special operation Z.

Several people have been detained.  Details are being clarified.

Serberus wrote:Considering what the Nazis have been doing to people they even suspect of being pro Russian, it is ultimately a futile and pointless act which will most likely result in their torture and death. They would have done more by joining the Militia once the Russians came rolling in.

Arkanghelsk wrote:AD is not a limitation to VKS

They take out Buk and Tor routinely ,

ALAMO wrote:...Next year we will have a Crimean rice production, to begin with.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukrainians were caught using LMM manpads

British have brought new manpads for them

These Ukrainians won't surrender,  it's pointless to offer them the opportunity

Some will, but thag will overshadow the missed opportunity to get ride of Sever and Vostok groups of the JFO

d_taddei2 wrote:UK supplying MRAP vehicles won't be that useful in this type if conflict these will most likely be well worn ex Iraqi conflict vehicles.

Also not sure how UK will supply Harpoon anti ship missiles, UK only uses air and ship launched versions, Ukraine has no navy or ships that can use them, same goes for air force. They would have to build from new land based version which does exist but not in UK inventory. And Ukraine would need full training on these systems.

Hole wrote:
 Really? How could such a dumbass become CEO?


Tornado rocket

par far wrote:

Hole wrote:
 Really? How could such a dumbass become CEO?


Tornado rocket

The big question is, why is google still in Russia?