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    Russian Oil and Gas Industry: News #2

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    Post  GarryB 18/06/20, 03:14 pm

    Germany needs to grow a pair and decide if they want cheap reliable gas supplies or not...

    If I was in charge of Gazprom I would stop all work in Germany and reroute the pipes to Kaliningrad so the people in Kaliningrad can get cheap gas direct from Russia. I would build a gas liquification plant in Kaliningrad so gas can be piped to Kaliningrad in quantity without needing to ship it there and Germany can send ships to Kaliningrad to buy their gas... it will be cheaper than US gas and available in the volumes they require... unlike US gas...

    Then I would do to Kaliningrad what the EU is doing to statues of their Soviet saviours and change the street names from German to Russian and rip down all the old buildings and build new modern buildings... if the west can rewrite history then Russia can pick and choose what history to remember too.
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    Post  owais.usmani 26/06/20, 06:42 pm

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-25/germany-weighs-measures-against-u-s-over-nord-stream-sanctions

    Germany Weighs Measures Against U.S. Over Nord Stream Sanctions


    Germany is preparing to strike back against the U.S. if President Donald Trump follows through on his threat to kill off the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline with additional sanctions.

    Chancellor Angela Merkel’s administration is considering pressing for coordinated European Union action, according to two German officials familiar with the discussions. An economy ministry paper seen by Bloomberg News said such measures by the U.S. would be new and could hit significantly more German and European companies and banks as well as state agencies.

    The 1,200-kilometer (745 mile) pipeline under the Baltic Sea, designed to pump Russian gas directly to Germany, has triggered deep division between EU member states. But the prospect of a direct U.S. intervention in the 27-member bloc’s energy interests should prompt a collective response, the officials said on condition of anonymity.

    The new German strategy adds the possibility of further escalation between the transatlantic allies, with the U.S. this week announcing potential tariffs on $3.1 billion of products from Germany and other European countries. Trump has also reiterated his intention to cut the number of U.S. troops in Germany and renewed a threat to hit the German auto industry with a new set of levies.

    Trump has made Nord Stream, owned by Gazprom PJSC, one of his main targets in his periodic attacks on Merkel and the German government. He revived the verbal salvoes this month, saying Germany is “delinquent” on defense spending and dispatching “billions” to Vladimir Putin.

    “We’re supposed to protect Germany from Russia, but Germany is paying Russia billions of dollars for energy coming from a pipeline,” Trump told a rally last week in Tulsa, Oklahoma. “Excuse me, how does that work?”

    U.S. sanctions signed by Trump that targeted pipe-laying vessels in December threw the pipeline’s completion into disarray. While German officials said the project would merely by delayed, new measures proposed by U.S. senators could put Nord Stream in permanent danger, the German officials said.

    But any response, including sanctions, would have to be weighed carefully, one official said. With Trump’s poll numbers sagging four months ahead of the U.S. presidential election, he could follow through on previous tariff threats -- notably on German autos, the official said.

    German Economy Minister Peter Altmaier issued a warning over the legality of the new measures earlier this month, signaling that imposing them could bring a new low to transatlantic relations.

    “The German government has long had the view that sanctions with extraterritorial effects are in conflict with international law and that they’re not a contribution to advancing international cooperation,” Altmaier told reporters in Berlin on June 12. “This position hasn’t changed.”

    Bundestag lawmakers on the economic affairs committee discussed potential retaliation against U.S. sanctions in a June 17 meeting. The committee chairman, Klaus Ernst of the anti-capitalist Left Party, said parties were in agreement that such measures violated international law.

    “The government is called upon to develop and put forward proposals for a measured, clear reaction on behalf of Germany and the European Union,” Ernst said in a statement after the closed-door meeting.

    German industry is concerned that the new raft of sanctions may prompt counter sanctions in Europe, which it opposes on the strength of U.S.-EU trade ties and traditional allegiances, Michael Harms, the managing director of the BDI lobby’s East European Committee, told reporters last week. Some 670 companies from 25 nations have worked on the pipeline, according to Harms.

    Gazprom, which has vessels docked off Germany’s Baltic coast, is set on completing the pipeline in the face of U.S. resistance. It made a request with authorities in Copenhagen to operate so-called DP3-class vessels in Danish waters.

    The Akademik Cherskiy, a vessel that Russia could use to build the remaining stretch of the gas-export link, arrived at a German Baltic port last month after a trip from the Sea of Japan that took two months. The ship is a DP3-class pipe-laying vessel, according to Esperis Consulting, a Warsaw-based energy consultancy. ​

    The German ministry paper said it was unclear how the Russians planned to proceed with some 150 kilometers remaining for the pipeline. A target for completion in early 2021 would require construction to resume this summer, the paper said.

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    Post  PapaDragon 27/06/20, 11:56 am


    Two Gasprom's supply vessels are being escorted to Baltic by OPV Vasily Bykov, they were escorted from Indian Ocean to Med by frigate Admiral Grigorevich which is now returning to Sevastopol

    The black sea fleet did not let the Nord stream-2 vessels go alone to the Baltic

    https://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/149756/

    At the same time as the Gazprom fleet supply vessels that will participate in the completion of Nord stream 2, the Vasily Bykov Corvette is passing through the Mediterranean sea. It also goes to the Baltic sea-to the parade in honor of the Russian Navy Day in St. Petersburg. From the Indian ocean to the Suez canal, the vessels were guided by the frigate Admiral Grigorovich and the tug Professor Nikolai Muru. The Russian military does not leave the fleet that will complete the Baltic gas pipeline unaccompanied in foreign waters.

    According to the navigation portals Marinetraffic and Vesselfinder, on June 24, "Ostap Sheremeta" and "Ivan Sidorenko" approached Malta and made a stop for refueling. The vessel was blocked by the oil tanker Salina Bay.

    Coincidentally, next to the vessels of the Gazprom fleet, there was a Solitaire pipelayer, which laid the Nord stream-2 ,but stopped work on December 21 last year after the announcement of us sanctions against the project participants.

    It is noteworthy that the vessels of the Gazprom fleet did not enter the territorial waters of Malta, but stood next to them for refueling. According to the automatic identification system (AIS), the Ostap Sheremeta and Ivan Sidorenko are due to arrive in the Strait of Gibraltar on June 30.

    On the way, according to the traffic schedule, Gazprom fleet vessels are accompanied by the black sea fleet Corvette Vasily Bykov.

    We will remind, "Ostap Sheremeta" and "Ivan Sidorenko" follow from Vladivostok, and at Sri Lanka they were joined by the frigate "Admiral Grigorovich" and the tug "Professor Nikolay Muru"that specially came to the Indian ocean. They escorted Gazprom fleet vessels to the Mediterranean sea and set a course for the Syrian Tartus, where the Russian naval base is located. This happened on June 20. And on June 18, Turkish bloggers recorded the passage of the black sea fleet Corvette "Vasily Bykov" in the Bosphorus Strait. And by June 20, the patrol ship was just due to be in the area of the exit from the Suez canal.

    The press service of the southern military district, meanwhile, reported that "Vasily Bykov" is heading to the Baltic fleet, where the ship's crew will take part in the main naval parade in St. Petersburg in honor of the day of the Navy on July 26.

    "When making a sea crossing, the ship's crew will perform a complex of ship combat exercises for tasks specific to this type of ship. In particular, the sailors and crew of the Ka-27PL helicopter will work out tasks for takeoffs and landings on the ship's deck, and in order to check the coherence of all systems of the ship's aviation complex, training will be conducted for ship's calculations that ensure helicopter flights, " the press service of the southern military district said in a statement.

    The Vasily Bykov Corvette was commissioned in December 2018. It is equipped with a new AK-176MA artillery system, Shtil-1 and GIBKA anti-aircraft missile systems, and machine guns.

    Earlier, Russian Navy ships provided escort to the Baltic sea of the pipe-laying ship "Akademik Chersky", which followed from Nakhodka to Kaliningrad, and then — to the German Mukran.....
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    Post  JohninMK 27/06/20, 09:45 pm

    The tentacles of Turkstream slowly surrounding Ukraine.

    The supervisory board of Hungary’s pipeline operator FGSZ approved on Friday a plan of investment into the construction of a gas pipeline to Serbia with an annual capacity of 6 billion cubic meters, the company said in a statement.

    According to the document, the designated capacity at the pipeline’s southern tip – that is, on the border with Serbia – must be achieved by October 2021.

    Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said this spring that Hungary had initiated talks with Russia on increase of gas supplies to 4.2 bln cubic meters. Budapest is interested “in the opportunity of buying Russian gas via TurkStream through Turkey and Bulgaria, targeting the end of the next year,” he said.

    The TurkStream project is a pipeline consisting of two lines each capable of transmitting 15.75 billion cubic meters of gas annually. The first line is intended for the Turkish market, while the second branch is going to supply the countries of Southern and Southeastern Europe. Gazprom considers Greece, Italy, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary as potential markets.


    Source: TASS, June 27, 2020
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    Post  JohninMK 03/07/20, 07:46 am

    More sanctions equals more opportunities for Russian companies. The Germans are slowly getting more pissed about this, shows everyone who is boss in their country, and it ain't the locals.

    Looks like Russia thinks it has enough capacity in the short term through its other pipelines.

    New #US sanctions to block 700 mln euro for #NordStream2 completion


    https://geopolitics.news/anglo-america/new-us-sanctions-to-block-700-mln-euro-for-nord-stream-2-completion/
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    Post  GarryB 03/07/20, 04:43 pm

    But it doesn't mention the punchline.

    Russia does not suffer at all from the delay in completing NSII... if it does not sell to Germany and much of Europe gas piped via this pipeline the alternative is liquified gas and Russian LNG is cheaper than US LNG too... so instead of getting cheap piped gas from Russia they will be paying several times more for LNG that has to be shipped and it will be the customer paying for the shipping and liquification processes.

    They will still be buying Russian gas, they just get to pay more for it.

    But more importantly with Russia expanding its capacity to liquify the gas... once it is on a ship they can sell it to the highest bidder and make rather more money on gas sales and not get locked into 20 year contracts with low gas prices...

    If I was Russia I would cut my losses and redirect the pipeline to not go near the waters of Denmark so they get no transit fees and just have it move through international waters all the way to Kaliningrad where Russian citizens can enjoy cheap gas piped directly to them. They could then build a few liquification plants so Germany and anyone else can send ships to collect gas supplies from there and perhaps use their own ship fleet to send gas supplies around the world...
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    Post  miketheterrible 03/07/20, 11:58 pm

    They could get even more money that p by suing the nation's who agreed to it and now delaying due to US pressure. They will be forced to pay for Russian LNG anyway and on top, will have to pay Russia compensation for failing to adhere to contracts of this deal.

    It's a win win anyway.
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    Post  JohninMK 04/07/20, 03:14 am

    Here comes the helpers, clearly escorted this time.

    H I Sutton 02 Jul 2020

    Russia’s controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is enjoying a naval escort. The undersea pipeline will be built in the Baltic between Russia and Germany. Two offshore supply vessels involved in the project are currently being escorted. They are accompanied by a Project 1155 Udaloy-I Class destroyer and a Project 22160 patrol ship. At the time of writing the ships are currently 40 nautical miles southwest of Brest, France.

    Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) analyst Frank Bottema (Twitter) spotted the vessels in a Sentinel satellite image from Yesterday. They are just visible through a gap in the cloud. The vessels’s progress can also be tracked on other forms of OSINT.


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    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/07/russian-navy-warships-are-escorting-nord-stream-2-pipeline-vessels-in-bay-of-biscay/

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    Post  Hole 04/07/20, 07:18 am

    In the minds of this morons all things that russians, chinese or iranians do is "controversial" but attacking a random country and destroying it is great. Nothing controversial here. Mad

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    Post  Isos 04/07/20, 08:38 am

    They pay 50 billion $ for the armed force every year, of course they will use it to protect their interest.
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    Post  GarryB 04/07/20, 04:45 pm

    They could get even more money that p by suing the nation's who agreed to it and now delaying due to US pressure. They will be forced to pay for Russian LNG anyway and on top, will have to pay Russia compensation for failing to adhere to contracts of this deal.

    It's a win win anyway.

    But why be the bad guy. This pipeline was going to be cheap plentiful energy for Germany and other EU countries... by screwing it up Russia gets to charge a lot more for the gas it sells so it is essentially getting more money for the same thing.

    If they don't like it they can spend even more on US gas but the US doesn't produce the gas volumes needed to meet the current needs of Europe and their own needs. The projected needs for EU are only increasing too.

    Once they are liquifying gas for the EU that means they will have the capacity to sell to anyone on earth simply by sailing a bit further than to Germany with their product... if the tankers run on LNG they are essentially free to run anyway...

    In a way Russia should be thanking America for being such dicks.

    Here comes the helpers, clearly escorted this time.

    Wonder what source of intel made them think this was necessary...

    It is certainly good experience for the naval vessels involved... escorts and policing will be important features of a future Russian Navy, so practise now will be good... and also reassure the people on the civilian vessels too... nothing reassures you about bumps in the night than an armed escort...
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    Post  owais.usmani 08/07/20, 07:03 pm

    https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/natural-gas/070620-denmark-approves-use-of-ships-with-anchors-to-lay-nord-stream-2-gas-link

    Denmark approves use of ships with anchors to lay Nord Stream 2 gas link

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    Post  JohninMK 08/07/20, 09:32 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    Denmark approves use of ships with anchors to lay Nord Stream 2 gas link


    Very interesting as almost straight away the Fortuna, Russia's Baltic based pipe laying barge, that uses anchors, has left the German port of Mukran.

    Whilst the AKADEMIK CHERSKIY, that uses its props to stay in position so meeting the original Danish 'no anchors demands', stays behind. Maybe not needed, still it had a good journey from the Far East!

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    Post  PapaDragon 08/07/20, 10:03 pm

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    Denmark approves use of ships with anchors to lay Nord Stream 2 gas link

    Very interesting as almost straight away the Fortuna, Russia's Baltic based pipe laying barge, that uses anchors, has left the German port of Mukran.

    Whilst the AKADEMIK CHERSKIY, that uses its props to stay in position so meeting the original Danish 'no anchors demands', stays behind. Maybe not needed, still it had a good journey from the Far East!

    Looks like Danes came to the conclusion​ that the jig is up so they decided to stop bothering, they have entire pipelaying fleet parked there now (under armed protection to boot)

    They know they wouldn't be able to do anything anymore without violating their own laws in more obvious manner than usual so they just threw in the towel on the whole game

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    Post  JohninMK 10/07/20, 09:02 am

    Been watching the harbour at Mukran daily since the AC got there. For the first time today there are ships reversed up against the railway terminal so it looks like they are starting to load pipes.
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    Post  PapaDragon 12/07/20, 12:17 am


    Russian Navy escorting pipelaying support ships through the English Channel

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    Post  owais.usmani 12/07/20, 06:06 pm

    https://www.naturalgasintel.com/implications-seen-for-u-s-lng-as-nord-stream-2-nears-finish-line/

    Implications Seen for U.S. LNG as Nord Stream 2 Nears Finish Line

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    Post  kvs 13/07/20, 08:01 am

    https://pgjonline.com/news/2020/05-may/gazprom-begins-preparation-for-power-of-siberia-2

    The clock is ticking for the EU and its anti-Russian posturing. Russia is building up both LNG export capacity and
    pipeline capacity to the Orient. The EU-tards who yap incessantly about energy security do not know the meaning
    of the phrase. They will be competing with much bigger demand from the far east and the days of getting special
    service from Russia are coming to a close.

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    Post  Cyberspec 13/07/20, 05:26 pm

    Interesting development although the article has the usual garbage to explain what happened

    Venezuela’s Oil Riches Are Quietly Falling Under Russian Control
    https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/South-America
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    Post  JohninMK 13/07/20, 09:09 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:Interesting development although the article has the usual garbage to explain what happened

    Venezuela’s Oil Riches Are Quietly Falling Under Russian Control
    https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/South-America
    That link points to a general area on their site. Which is the article, I can't find an obvious one or a new one since April?
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    Post  GarryB 14/07/20, 12:06 am

    Wow those articles are biased... are they written by the US state department and copy and pasted?

    Why is Maduro able to cling to power for so long with the overwhelming support for Guano and the US imposing pressure and the Russians doubting Maduros ability to remain in power and of course sending troops in even though they didn't....

    Honestly my opinion of that oilprice.com probably could not get lower.

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    Post  JohninMK 14/07/20, 06:59 am

    GarryB wrote:Wow those articles are biased... are they written by the US state department and copy and pasted?

    Why is Maduro able to cling to power for so long with the overwhelming support for Guano and the US imposing pressure and the Russians doubting Maduros ability to remain in power and of course sending troops in even though they didn't....

    Honestly my opinion of that oilprice.com probably could not get lower.

    They are doing a pretty fine job at the task they have been set. Always on message and a regular supply of articles that contain a grain of truth and always well distributed.

    Your problem Garry is that you value the truth, an attribute no longer viewed as necessary in the Brave New World that parts of the World seem to want us in. Fortunately there are still many like you thumbsup
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    Post  Big_Gazza 14/07/20, 12:45 pm

    GarryB wrote:Wow those articles are biased... are they written by the US state department and copy and pasted?

    Why is Maduro able to cling to power for so long with the overwhelming support for Guano and the US imposing pressure and the Russians doubting Maduros ability to remain in power and of course sending troops in even though they didn't....

    Honestly my opinion of that oilprice.com probably could not get lower.

    I view Oilprice.com as a satire site, and an unashamed booster for the US shale oil flop... I mean "miracle" Laughing
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    Post  kvs 14/07/20, 02:41 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Wow those articles are biased... are they written by the US state department and copy and pasted?

    Why is Maduro able to cling to power for so long with the overwhelming support for Guano and the US imposing pressure and the Russians doubting Maduros ability to remain in power and of course sending troops in even though they didn't....

    Honestly my opinion of that oilprice.com probably could not get lower.

    I view Oilprice.com as a satire site, and an unashamed booster for the US shale oil flop... I mean "miracle" Laughing

    Like the rest of the corporate western media. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

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    Post  GarryB 15/07/20, 12:17 am

    They are just deluding themselves and clinging to a dream when the real world is moving on... their best hope is to pass in their sleep, but what is more likely to happen is that they will wake up and realise they can't afford the bill and the shit way they treat everyone means no one is going to help them... perhaps their best chance to pay their bill is for a harvest of organs... Shocked

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