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    flamming_python

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    Re: Russian ABM Development

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:58 am

    Can anyone show me where it says that the A-235 will be mobile?

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    Re: Russian ABM Development

    Post  eehnie on Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:47 am


    http://www.milkavkaz.net/2016/08/kakovo-sostoyanie-protivoraketnoj-oborony-vks-rf.html
    http://www.russiadefence.net/t4725p50-a235-nudol-asat-abm-system#184520

    also up in this page there is some reference to mobile nudol
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    Re: Russian ABM Development

    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:08 am

    The problem I have is that a picture of a truck that carried Nudel is not evidence that Nudel is mobile.

    Previous models of ABM systems were paraded in Red Square on the back of trucks but they were not mobile either.'

    Those were just the trucks that transported the missiles to their silos to prepare for launch.

    Of course now that the ABM treaty is gone there is nothing to stop mobile ABM systems sprouting up all over the place.

    Nudel, S-500, S-400 are all impressive SAM systems, but together they would be the best ABM system available.








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    Re: Russian ABM Development

    Post  eehnie on Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:39 am

    GarryB wrote:The problem I have is that a picture of a truck that carried Nudel is not evidence that Nudel is mobile.

    Previous models of ABM systems were paraded in Red Square on the back of trucks but they were not mobile either.'

    Those were just the trucks that transported the missiles to their silos to prepare for launch.

    Of course now that the ABM treaty is gone there is nothing to stop mobile ABM systems sprouting up all over the place.

    Nudel, S-500, S-400 are all impressive SAM systems, but together they would be the best ABM system available.



    The picture is of a model in firing position, not only of a truck transporting missiles.



    Benya wrote:I'm not sure if this has been posted here:

    Render image of the A-235 "Nudol" system's TEL from Milkavkaz.net



    Note that this is fictional, and the real steel system may vary in look.

    Source: Arrow http://www.milkavkaz.net/2016/08/kakovo-sostoyanie-protivoraketnoj-oborony-vks-rf.html
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    Re: Russian ABM Development

    Post  LMFS on Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:25 am

    Found this on an old link (from Mindstorm I think) about EW but containing info about the mysterious plasma shield that could be used against ICBMs:

    https://vpk.name/news/118545_Elektromagnitnoe_oruzhie_v_chem_rossiiskaya_armiya_operedila_konkurentov.html

    Interesting developments niirp (now a division of the concern PVO "Almaz-Antey") and Physical-technical Institute. Ioffe. Exploring the impact of powerful microwave radiation from earth to air, objects (goals), these institutions suddenly received local plasma formations, which are obtained at the intersection of the radiation flux from several sources. In contact with these formations of aerial targets has undergone tremendous dynamic overload and was destroyed.Coherent sources of microwave radiation, could quickly change the focus point, that is, to make retargeting with great speed or to accompany objects of almost any of the aerodynamic characteristics. Experiments have shown that the impact effectively even in combat units ICBMs. In fact, it's not even microwave weapons, and combat plasmoids. Unfortunately, when in 1993, the authors presented a draft system air defense/missile defense, based on these principles, to the state, Boris Yeltsin proposed joint development of the American President.Although the cooperation on the project did not take place, perhaps that is what pushed the Americans to the creation in Alaska of HAARP (High freguencu Active Auroral Research Program) is a research project to study the ionosphere and Aurora. Note that the peace project somehow has the funding Agency DARPA at the Pentagon.

    To complement:

    https://www.wired.com/2007/05/plasma-shield-m/

    The Plasma Shield might have an even better trick up its sleeve though, especially when larger versions are built. It relates to Russian work on plasma aerodynamics, the way that ionized gas influences the airflow around an object. (I’ve previously looked at some bizarre radioactive stealth technologyfrom the 50’s related to this. ) Inject even a tiny amount of plasma into the airflow around a missile or aircraft, and the friction drops radically.
    If only one side of the missile gets the plasma – well, it’ll be a bumpy ride.

    In the 90’s the Russian physicist Rimily Avramenko proposed this method for taking out ballistic missiles:

    Their action is based on focusing beams of electromagnetic energy produced by laser or microwave radiation into the upper layers of the atmosphere….A
    cloud of highly ionized air arises at the focus of the laser or microwave rays, at an altitude of up to 50 kilometers. Upon entering it, any object–a missile, an airplane, is deflected from its trajectory and disintegrates in response to the fantastic overloads arising due to the abrupt pressure difference …What is fundamental in this case is that the energy aimed by the terrestrial components of the plasma weapon–lasers and antennas–is concentrated not at the target itself but a little ahead of it. Rather than "incinerating" the missile or airplane, it "bumps" it out of trajectory.


    The Russians refer to such balls of plasma as plasmoids. Although there is some speculation that their high-power radar could produce plasmoids in the upper atmosphere for defensive use, this has not been proven. (Just, please, don’t mention HAARP.) But the laser system used in PASS has been proven.

    Alex Long, CEO of Stellar Photonics, which makes the PASS laser, tells me that future systems will have much greater range than the current laser. The focusing requirements are much simpler than for high-power energy weapons like the Airborne Laser (or ABL, a ray gun-equipped 747 jet), making longer ranges more feasible.

    The technology which produces small plasma detonations in PASS could put larger plasmoids in the path of missiles and aircraft high in the atmosphere. Rather than using massive amounts of energy to burn through the missile’s casing, just a small amount of laser-created plasma could turn the missile’s own speed against it, tripping it up in a piece of cosmic judo. A small, low-energy pulse laser may turn out to be more effective for missile defense than the giant chemical laser in the $7.3 billion ABL.

    Amazing stuff... could be used as ABM system, for aerodynamics, as counter-countermeasure etc.

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