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    Benya

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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  Benya on Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:44 pm

    I'm not sure if this has been posted here:

    Render image of the A-235 "Nudol" system's TEL from Milkavkaz.net



    Note that this is fictional, and the real steel system may vary in look.

    Source: Arrow http://www.milkavkaz.net/2016/08/kakovo-sostoyanie-protivoraketnoj-oborony-vks-rf.html
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  Viktor on Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:00 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Viktor wrote:The same missile will be part of the A-235 and S-500 meaning Russian national missile defense will have its fixed and mobile variant.

    A-235/Nudol isn't fixed, it's mobile.

    It could be that they all use the same missile.
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:31 pm

    All the previous systems for the Moscow ABM system were silo launched.

    They could be carried around in big tubes on trucks but were loaded into silos for launch as they are fixed systems designed to defend fixed structures... in this case Moscow.

    The S-500 is a mobile system likely intended to operate with S-400 units, though it will likely not move around in operation... unless they mount one on a train with the new train based ICBMs.

    I would expect the Nudel to be truck mounted but launched from a silo, so I would not call it a mobile system... could be wrong, but most of the infrastructure the Nudol operates with is the Moscow ABM system and is fixed so it wont be all that mobile even if truck based.

    The S-500 will likely be fully mobile like an S-400 battery is fully mobile.

    In fact an S-400 battery would likely benefit from improved sensors from the S-500 battery and vice versa.

    The Nudel evolved from the Moscow ABM system while the s-500 is a from scratch system likely based on the S-300 or S-300V and using S-400 technology and is probably a multi stage missile. I doubt there is much similarity between Nudel and S-500. They might look similar, but it is like the T-80 and T-90 which evolved from the T-64 and T-72 respectively... they might look similar but they don't have interchangable parts...
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:36 pm

    Successful Nudol ASAT test reported

    Sources in U.S. intelligence community told Ankit Panda that Russia conducted a test launch of the Nudol anti-satellite system in Plesetsk, this time from a transporter erector launcher.

    The Nudol system, also known as PL-19, is believed to be a direct-ascent ASAT developed by the Almaz-Antey design bureau. The system appears to have the internal designation 14Ts033 (14Ц033), the interceptor is known as 14А042 (14А042). There were three test launches of the interceptor in 2014-2015 (one of them unsuccessful) and two after that - in May 2016 and in December 2016. This would make the March 2018 test the sixth one.

    It is not clear whether the test was just a test of a missile or it involved an intercept attempt. It appears that it didn't this time. I am reasonably certain that the first three tests were just tests of the missile, not the interceptor. So, it seems that the tests still do not involve a kill vehicle.

    Just as a reminder - the December 2016 test was said to be conducted from a "site in central Russia." Kapustin Yar was suspected, but if the March 2018 was the first test from TEL then it is less clear how the test could have taken place there. Another interesting data point - construction at the Chekhov radar site near Moscow is said to be somehow connected to the Nudol program, but the exact nature of that connection is not clear.

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2018/04/successful_nudol_asat_test_rep_1.shtml
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:42 pm

    Successful Nudol ASAT test reported

    Sources in U.S. intelligence community told Ankit Panda that Russia conducted a test launch of the Nudol anti-satellite system in Plesetsk, this time from a transporter erector launcher.

    The Nudol system, also known as PL-19, is believed to be a direct-ascent ASAT developed by the Almaz-Antey design bureau. The system appears to have the internal designation 14Ts033 (14Ц033), the interceptor is known as 14А042 (14А042). There were three test launches of the interceptor in 2014-2015 (one of them unsuccessful) and two after that - in May 2016 and in December 2016. This would make the March 2018 test the sixth one.

    It is not clear whether the test was just a test of a missile or it involved an intercept attempt. It appears that it didn't this time. I am reasonably certain that the first three tests were just tests of the missile, not the interceptor. So, it seems that the tests still do not involve a kill vehicle.

    Just as a reminder - the December 2016 test was said to be conducted from a "site in central Russia." Kapustin Yar was suspected, but if the March 2018 was the first test from TEL then it is less clear how the test could have taken place there. Another interesting data point - construction at the Chekhov radar site near Moscow is said to be somehow connected to the Nudol program, but the exact nature of that connection is not clear.

    http://russianforces.org/blog/2018/04/successful_nudol_asat_test_rep_1.shtml
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:44 pm

    On the bmpd side, we recall that, according to US data, five test launches of the Nudol system rocket were carried out earlier in Russia:

    1) The launch of August 12, 2014 - from the Plesetsk site - according to the data of the US Department of Defense was unsuccessful, however, according to the web resource planet4589.org, was successful;

    2) Launch April 22, 2015 - Plesetsk - according to the data of the US Department of Defense and web resource planet4589.org, was unsuccessful;

    3) Launch November 18, 2015 - Plesetsk - successful;

    4) Start-up May 25, 2016 - Plesetsk - successful;

    5) The launch on December 16, 2016 - was carried out from the "base in the central part of Russia" (the Kapustin Yar test site?) - a successful one.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3144837.html
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  GarryB on Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:11 am

    a test launch of the Nudol anti-satellite system in Plesetsk, this time from a transporter erector launcher.

    That seems to confirm that the system is actually mobile... rather than just a carrier truck that delivers the missile to its silo for launch...

    That makes the system much more flexible... assuming the command and control components can also be made fully mobile an ABM system could be moved to pretty much anywhere to defend from strategic attack or to take down a satellite...
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:40 am

    GarryB wrote:
    a test launch of the Nudol anti-satellite system in Plesetsk, this time from a transporter erector launcher.

    That seems to confirm that the system is actually mobile... rather than just a carrier truck that delivers the missile to its silo for launch...

    That makes the system much more flexible... assuming the command and control components can also be made fully mobile an ABM system could be moved to pretty much anywhere to defend from strategic attack or to take down a satellite...

    it isnt clear to me whether A-235 ABM system and Nudol are related. If anyone can help with more info
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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:43 am

    Another test of the new missile defense interceptor

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    Re: A–235 Nudol ASAT/ABM system

    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:50 am

    it isnt clear to me whether A-235 ABM system and Nudol are related. If anyone can help with more info

    The only practical options are that it is a variant of the ABM systems developed for Moscow, in which case it will have an A prefix... ie A-235, or it will be a fully mobile system that is part of S-500... I suspect the former to be honest.

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