Russian Liberal Opposition

kvs wrote:Prove it asshole. Your stupid links don't even start to do so. He is facing up to 5 years of jail time for his parole violation.   Demands by NATzO maggots do not make Russian law.

You know that secret service agents are actually trained to deal with such situations.

But clearly Tsavo Lion and the rest of the NATzO retard monkeys think Russians are too dumb to be able to learn.

GarryB wrote:

if the law is being misused , it's not worth the paper it's written on.

Navalny is in the wrong, and he has to face the consequences of his actions. The law is being correctly applied... he broke his bail conditions, ..-after being poisoned & not be able to return in time? He had a valid excuse stipulated in the rules, & sent notifications of where he was & why. If he was a flight risk, why let him leave his residence, much less go to Germany, in violation of restrictions on his movements? Then the FSB kill team was following him for years on different planes & attempted to poison him twice but was still caught doing that. 6 years later they recalled his 2(!) suspended sentences, threw him in jail to bet sentenced to a few years in prison camp, from which he may never come out alive.  

The fact that he is trying to stir up public agitation in a situation where he is clearly in the wrong makes harsher penalties in his case much more appropriate and necessary.-he wants to change the system & his treatment only helps in showing the true face of the regime; freedom of peaceful assembly is guaranteed in the RF Constitution; the police efforts to disperse protesters is what led to the latest violence.

Learn Russian or hire interpreter to watch this

This is an English language forum, post an English translation or summary or don't bother posting.

par far wrote:There was no reason to hold this clown for 1 month, just questioning him for 3 days and releasing would have made him irrelevant.

I still think that the reason for detaining him for a month was to get people to streets to see who would come, so authorities and intelligence agencies could keep tabs on those people that came.

kvs wrote:I recommend that people read the linked article above.   Karlin cannot be accused of being a Putin fanboi and his take on the
"fraud" that was being pimped by the organizers of the Bolotnaya protests was lame.   Looking at deviations from Gaussians
is shallow analysis.   Since humans are not ideal gas particles that Boltzmann populate their energy states, there is always
going to be some skew with "abnormal" tails in the voting distribution.   Not every district in a large city will vote with the
same percentages for the options on the ballot.   So exit polls which cannot physically track every district are going to deviate
from the final numbers.   The important thing is that during those elections there was none of the cheesy 4 am flipping
of the vote standing that we saw in key US states.   While Russia is subjected to hair splitting speculation about supposed
fraud that can't even stand on its own two feet, the brazen fraud in the USA where the ridiculous mail in ballots were used
as a type of ballot stuffing is ignored.   Why would mail in ballots be counted last?  

The fraud in the 2020 is obvious because even if mail in ballots were to shift the final split between Trump and Biden,
they could not do so in a 100 vs 0 percent manner.   There is no reason for Biden supporters to vote via mail in ballots
and for Trump supporters not to use this voting option at all.   There is really not that sort of split in social standing
or jobs and education between these voting blocks in any urban district.   This is not a case of urban vs. rural or
even state vs. state.   In any case, the opinion polls are clear and show that US presidential candidates
have closer to 50/50 support instead of 100/0 support.   So those 4 am step-function shifts in the ballot counts
that went exclusively against Trump are pure ballot stuffing.  

Backman wrote:Karlin is another example of someone having a love/hate relationship with Putin primarily because Putin is too liberal.

A Ukrainian columnist with cred in Kiev also wrote a piece recently telling people not to support Navalny. Because Navalny would be worse for Ukraine than Putin.
It is highly unlikely that whoever replaces Putin in the future , will be more liberal or accomodating with the west than Putin.

kvs wrote:

Backman wrote:Karlin is another example of someone having a love/hate relationship with Putin primarily because Putin is too liberal.

A Ukrainian columnist with cred in Kiev also wrote a piece recently telling people not to support Navalny. Because Navalny would be worse for Ukraine than Putin.
It is highly unlikely that whoever replaces Putin in the future , will be more liberal or accomodating with the west than Putin.

Looks like some of them realize that this is a serious risk from all the regime change shenanigans.   But the objective
of regime change in Russia is to destroy it.   The west wants Russia to start from scratch again and waste decades
recovering.   In the process maybe they will get lucky and a real comprador oligarch takeover will happen like in Ukraine.
But this sort of assault is hardly going to promote west-loving liberoids into power.   There may actually be a new Stalin
who will use much more Draconian methods to fix things.  

Backman wrote:The CIA has the same operation going in Thailand. See if this sounds familiar. Same NED funding, pumping social media and all the rest of it. This is clearly a US sponsored attack on Russia. And Russia better do something about it.

Tsavo Lion wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCPauM1aSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPA8nJm9574

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIDOog7bPno  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdyRy5it6xs  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHMXkAB9YXI  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmZLgpsP1RM

I'll get worse before it gets better.

Tsavo Lion wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJCPauM1aSY



I'll get worse before it gets better.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Actually allowing navalny & co supporters to come out is useful because it allows FSB and other agencies to track them and if they violate states laws it allows the state to ban them from taking public offices.

Furthermore, it can be seen as a sort of relief valve. Completely suppress the liberal opposition would cause probably more problems.

Anyway, Russia's situation with protests is way better than  what happens to france every weekend.

The only country I can remember where there are no oppositions or protests is North Korea, but I definitely would not like Russia to move in that way (while America is probably going in that direction)

miketheterrible wrote:Who is the nazi bust?

And why don't the authorities just remove it as it's illegal to promote nazis in Russia.