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    Post  Firebird on Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:28 pm

    So Kadyrov is stepping down. OK we knew he was a piece of Islamist shit. But a useful one, to some degree. And not the worst. Surely we all know he couldn't have been trusted even if he did some good things. Look what duplicitous scum Terdogan, Obummer and the like are. But what do people think will happen in Chechnya and the Caucasus now he's supposedly stepping down?

    Is it time to take back what was Chechnya's fairly high level of autonomy? Will there be serious unrest?
    Will huge scandals break over Kadyrov? Will he remain in control with Kremlin approval or disappear?
    Will there be a substantial re-Russification of the region, bearing in mind the appalling level of ethnic "cleansing" in the recent past?
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    Post  KiloGolf on Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:36 pm

    Firebird wrote:So Kadyrov is stepping down. OK we knew he was a piece of Islamist shit. But a useful one, to some degree. And not the worst. Surely we all know he couldn't have been trusted even if he did some good things. Look what duplicitous scum Terdogan, Obummer and the like are. But what do people think will happen in Chechnya and the Caucuses now he's supposedly stepping down?

    Is it time to take back what was Chechnya's fairly high level of autonomy? Will there be serious unrest?
    Will huge scandals break over Kadyrov? Will he remain in control with Kremlin approval or disappear?
    Will there be a substantial re-Russification of the region, bearing in mind the appalling level of ethnic "cleansing" in the recent past?

    Ruling it like a colony (current state of affairs) is a better option.
    If Russia wants to establish a solid, "Christian", anti-"moderate" footing in the Caucasus they need to work with both Georgia and Armenia.

    PS. Caucasus not Caucases thumbsup
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:27 am

    Let's start with the very unfortunate state of affairs, that there are almost no Russians in Chechnya today. All of them fled post-1991.

    Massive immigration from Russia, best coupled with intermarriage and conversion, would be needed to set the region onto a track for brighter future. Something that may become possible with the rising birth rate among ethnic Russian (and Belarussians).
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    Post  Firebird on Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:44 pm

    The Western press speculated that Russia's 2011-2020 arnament modernisation was connected to a predicted reignition of instability the Caucusus.

    Kadyrov resigns, and we get this evil filth the following day or so:-

    https://www.rt.com/news/333928-woman-severed-head-metro/

    IMO, you can't call them animals, because animals would never behave in such a manner.
    Atleast Moscow may be cleared of some of its trash after this...

    PS actually I never realised. I assumed Caususus was a plural with -es - like the Dardanelles etc.

    PPS I hope the Russian electoral commission gets to work on seeing that any elections in Chechnya atleast reflect the votes of civilised people who were forced out of Chechnya by Islamist scum.
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    Post  Project Canada on Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:52 pm

    I feel this is not the correct thread to post this but its got to do with extremism and extremism is what causes islamic insurgency 


    Chechnya passes bill allowing (aka mandatory) Hijab in schools
    https://www.rt.com/politics/382954-chechnya-passes-bill-allowing-schoolgirls/

    And

    Sweeping purge against gays in Chechnya
    https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/sweeping-purge-against-gays-in-chechnya-people-killed/


    So., wtf is going on with the rus government? Isn't there supposedly a "limit" as to how far these muslims can go with their ways? If they are left unchecked then these muzzs will continue to chip away the very last foundations of Secular laws and make everything Islamic! So why did the Russian government suddenly gone soft to these brazen islamization being done in broad daylight? I support Russia for being the sole Christian country to fight for Christianity and Christian rights yet they too are giving in to Islamization. When can I see the day when tables are turned and its Muslims turn to being Christianized in the most brutal way?? 
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:47 pm

    Project Canada wrote:I feel this is not the correct thread to post this but its got to do with extremism and extremism is what causes islamic insurgency 


    Chechnya passes bill allowing (aka mandatory) Hijab in schools
    https://www.rt.com/politics/382954-chechnya-passes-bill-allowing-schoolgirls/

    And

    Sweeping purge against gays in Chechnya
    https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/sweeping-purge-against-gays-in-chechnya-people-killed/


    So., wtf is going on with the rus government? Isn't there supposedly a "limit" as to how far these muslims can go with their ways? If they are left unchecked then these muzzs will continue to chip away the very last foundations of Secular laws and make everything Islamic! So why did the Russian government suddenly gone soft to these brazen islamization being done in broad daylight? I support Russia for being the sole Christian country to fight for Christianity and Christian rights yet they too are giving in to Islamization. When can I see the day when tables are turned and its Muslims turn to being Christianized in the most brutal way?? 

    Russia "won" the insurgency war in Chechnya because it co-opted local forces. So this accommodation is predicable. If
    this is how they want to live then, let them. The rest of Russia is not subjected to these cultural norms. In fact, it is
    better for the people there to experience these restrictions and then vote with their feet by moving to other parts of
    Russia. If Russia tries to fight this, then it goes back to square one.

    Sweden and elsewhere in the west, there is lots of accommodation of Islamic cultural agendas in every school, business
    and location. This does not happen in Russia. Russia would have let Chechnya secede if it wasn't going to be converted
    into a jihadi military base used to terrorize its territory. This cannot be tolerated and Russia has decided to fight the jihadis
    all the way back to the Middle East such as in Syria instead of sitting and doing nothing like a victim. This the correct
    policy and not trying to impose Russian norms on Chechens in Chechnya. So it is OK if Russia is a spectrum of confederated
    republics with local norms that are not even consistent with each other. Russia has always been a collection of Russias.

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