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    Post  kvs on Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:12 am



    There is some sort of historical revisionist wave happening. It started with the BS ceremony in Poland and was followed by all the
    Nazi quisling regimes such as Estonia, Croatia and Bulgaria pretending to be the true defenders of "European values" against the
    Nazis and the Soviets.

    Croatia takes the cake for this demented revisionism by claiming it was fighting the Nazis during WWII.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustashe

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_State_of_Croatia

    (I can even cite Wikipedia to get the facts on these clowns).

    The funny thing about this spasm of dementia is that it comes at a time when the US is declining and Russia is ascending. Maybe
    these hater clowns love to pretend that Russia is falling apart, but anyone with a functional brain will know that this just ain't so.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:44 am



    The speaker lays out the reality of WWII and the revisionist trash today. His take down of Banderastan is classic.
    Banderastan celebrates the genocide facilitators (including death camp guards) while pissing on the millions who
    fought the Nazis as part of the USSR.

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    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:07 pm



    Demented Latvian regime is repressing t-shirts with images of Putin on them. Meanwhile, goose-stepping in some SS veterans parade is perfectly fine for these
    self-anointed guardians of "European values" (aka nazism).
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    Post  Hole on Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:00 pm

    Orban is evil because he is a right-wing populist, but torch marches through Riga are fine. Mad Embarassed
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    Post  kvs on Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:26 pm



    Bulgaria is a revisionist POS.   They are actually claiming that Russia got its Slavic culture and language from Bulgars.   What a load of shit a mile high.
    Bulgars are a turkic people with no commonality with slavs.    It is the Bulgars that moved from the Volga region (near present day Tatarstan) that picked
    up the Slavic language and culture on the way.    And the Cyrillic alphabet was created thanks to the Byzantine Empire and not because of Bulgars.   Greeks
    deserve vastly more credit for it.  

    Bulgar drones sound a lot like Ukr Banderite drones.   I have a question for these clowns: why is there no Ukr language and alphabet?   Ukrainian is a
    form of Slavic which is understandable to Russians.   And Ukrs never had their own alphabet.   For revisionist clowns who claim to have 40,000 years
    of history that is an epic fail.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:02 am

    kvs wrote:

    Bulgaria is a revisionist POS.   They are actually claiming that Russia got its Slavic culture and language from Bulgars.   What a load of shit a mile high.
    Bulgars are a turkic people with no commonality with slavs.    It is the Bulgars that moved from the Volga region (near present day Tatarstan) that picked
    up the Slavic language and culture on the way.    And the Cyrillic alphabet was created thanks to the Byzantine Empire and not because of Bulgars.   Greeks
    deserve vastly more credit for it.  

    Bulgar drones sound a lot like Ukr Banderite drones.   I have a question for these clowns: why is there no Ukr language and alphabet?   Ukrainian is a
    form of Slavic which is understandable to Russians.   And Ukrs never had their own alphabet.   For revisionist clowns who claim to have 40,000 years
    of history that is an epic fail.



    Bulgars were of northern Korean origin. Bulgarians do not even like Turks.


    Did not Varangians had their own runes or something like that? Ukrainian Cyrillic is slightly different from its Russian counterpart.





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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:07 am

    kvs wrote:

    Bulgaria is a revisionist POS.   They are actually claiming that Russia got its Slavic culture and language from Bulgars.   What a load of shit a mile high.
    Bulgars are a turkic people with no commonality with slavs.    It is the Bulgars that moved from the Volga region (near present day Tatarstan) that picked
    up the Slavic language and culture on the way.    And the Cyrillic alphabet was created thanks to the Byzantine Empire and not because of Bulgars.   Greeks
    deserve vastly more credit for it.  

    Bulgar drones sound a lot like Ukr Banderite drones.   I have a question for these clowns: why is there no Ukr language and alphabet?   Ukrainian is a
    form of Slavic which is understandable to Russians.   And Ukrs never had their own alphabet.   For revisionist clowns who claim to have 40,000 years
    of history that is an epic fail.

    It could be that the Russophobes are AstroTurf artificially propped up, while the grassroots Russophiles are being suppressed. Compared to the Soviet era, Pro-Russian publicized influence hardly has a foothold, but the grassroots on other-hand:

    A meeting of friends of Russia took place in Bulgaria, bringing together more than 15 thousand people

    As the link points out, this event has been held 16 years prior by authentic grassroots activists.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:14 pm

    As pointed out in the video, these "friends" have a systematic pattern of behaviour throughout history which makes them enemies. Today the Bulgarian grassroots are foaming
    at the mouth Russia haters and swallow the nazionalist piss-fermented koolaid with relish.

    To these retards I say: if Russia was as bad as you project it to be, then it would have wiped you out instead of wasting trillions of dollars worth of investment
    on you. You were the worms who allied yourself with Hitler and his genocide agenda. You only flipped sides once you saw that the Nazis were losing.
    Russia had every right to constrain your mythical freedom.


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    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:36 pm

    Russia withdrew it´s forces from Bulgaria at the beginning of the 50´s. Bulgaria wasn´t blackmailed to send troops to Afghanistan or somewhere else. And today? Thousands of foreign troops in the country.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:18 pm

    Hole wrote:Russia withdrew it´s forces from Bulgaria at the beginning of the 50´s. Bulgaria wasn´t blackmailed to send troops to Afghanistan or somewhere else. And today? Thousands of foreign troops in the country.

    Russia committed the unforgivable sin that it denied billions of former Warsaw Pact member citizens from realizing their manifest destiny to be dollar billionaires under
    any capitalist system.   This syndrome ravages the minds of all these clowns.    They forget that before WWII none of them were rich, especially the Baltics and Bulgaria
    which were dirt poor agrarian societies.    Communism actually raised their standard of living but their hubris makes them believe that they would have been richer
    if not occupied by the Soviets.   Of course they distort the meaning of the word occupy as you point out.    

    As we have seen with Ukraine after 2014, any wealth that these ingrates would have without the USSR would have to have been internally generated.    Just how likely
    would these backward agrarian societies of the 1930s have advanced to economic superpower status in 40+ years.   Not bloody likely since the old west is not
    interested in competition.   It is interested in mercantilist sheep which consume value added products and export unprocessed resources such as minerals and
    agricultural output.   Bulgaria would have been in a very similar state to the 1930s in the 1990s for the vast majority of its population.   Some 1% comprador class
    would have gotten richer.   But so what?
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:42 pm

    Are you sure kvs?

    South Korea in 1940s was even poorer than Bulgaria, Taiwan wasn't rich either. Japan was bombed to shreds.

    Are you so sure NATO-affiliated Bulgaria wouldn't reach at least the level of Spain?
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    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:13 pm

    Yes, because the west changed a lot since then. Back in the cold war days the oligarchs in the west had to show that they have the better system. Since the 90´s the tax system and the social welfare system were changed to the better for the super-rich. Since 2008 the rich got 90% of the wealth that were "generated".

    Bulgaria is a member of the EU for 12 years now and the country didn´t improve much, because the elite wants the people of countries like Bulgaria or Romania to go to Germany or France and work for 2 or 3 Euros an hour. That pressures the local population to also accept less and less money.

    According to the CIA North Korea was better off then the South even at the beginning of the 80´s.
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:16 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Are you sure kvs?

    South Korea in 1940s was even poorer than Bulgaria, Taiwan wasn't rich either. Japan was bombed to shreds.

    Are you so sure NATO-affiliated Bulgaria wouldn't reach at least the level of Spain?

    And in the 70s Bulgaria was responsible for something like 1/3rd of the world export of circuit boards and microelectronics; it had 200,000 people working in this industry out of its 8 million population. It was supplying the Soviet space program with computers, and a bunch of other Soviet sectors too. It was also exporting to the West.
    Bulgarian research institutes were among the pioneers in the eastern bloc for robotics, early AI and various computer technologies.
    The country's automotive, metallurgical and shipbuilding industries were built from scratch in the socialist period.
    Bulgaria had a huge tourist industry. Biggest tourist destination in the Eastern bloc. Only as of 2016 has it again reached its previous milestone set in 1990; that of over 10 million tourists per year.
    Dozens of dams, other power plants, chemical works, mines, railroads, motorways, pipelines, etc... were built during the socialist era. What infrastructure has been built there since 1991? A metro system in the capital. Well, whoppee.
    The country was undergoing breakneck industrialization, urbanization, construction of mass-housing projects by the 60s.

    All I see though now, granted from an outsider's perspective - is that legacy being destroyed. Computer industry has been wiped out, automotive, shipbuilding too; no new railroads since the 80s. A little bit of development in the metallurgical sector, based off the old socialist legacy - that's about it. Universities and institutes have gone down the drain. Tourism has recovered to its previous level, albeit after a whole 26 years. Masses of Bulgarians exiting their country to work in richer countries and send money back home. Airports have been spruced up for the occasion. Remittances from abroad accounting for a not-insignificant portion of their GDP by now. And now EU nationals buying up homes there since land is cheap - albeit still not that cheap for the average Bulgarian, and increasing numbers of foreigners buying up homes will ultimately serve to make home ownership less accessible for the natives by driving up prices.

    So no I don't think that Bulgaria would have reached any level under NATO-affiliation. It's enough to look at what the country has achieved since 1991 to be sure. Yeah, maybe propped up by some virtual financial economy and handouts from Germany for its public sector, as Greece is now. Well 40% of young Greeks are forced to look for work abroad now.
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    Post  Godric on Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:32 pm

    kvs wrote:

    There is some sort of historical revisionist wave happening.   It started with the BS ceremony in Poland and was followed by all the
    Nazi quisling regimes such as Estonia, Croatia and Bulgaria pretending to be the true defenders of "European values" against the
    Nazis and the Soviets.

    Croatia takes the cake for this demented revisionism by claiming it was fighting the Nazis during WWII.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustashe

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_State_of_Croatia

    (I can even cite Wikipedia to get the facts on these clowns).

    The funny thing about this spasm of dementia is that it comes at a time when the US is declining and Russia is ascending.   Maybe
    these hater clowns love to pretend that Russia is falling apart, but anyone with a functional brain will know that this just ain't so.


    that's a joke coming from those Croatian revisionists scumbags ... they were that bad even the SS complained about there brutality to Berlin ... or the fact they tried to create a Catholic only state with the blessing of the Vatican killing a million Orthodox Serbs and 10s of thousands of Jews in the process the Ustashe flag is the same flag Croatia flies today it's on par with the Swastika
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    Post  kvs on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:04 pm



    Some Polish moron general gives his views of Russia's special forces and the soldiers who fought in various wars including WWII.
    Basically, Russians are barbarians who lack the sophistication of westerners. This is a sample of the hate-filled chauvinist
    bubble of delusion that dominates NATO decision makers. The self-image is so detached from reality as to be shocking.
    The projection of inferiority onto Russians is simply pathological.

    The video gives some examples that pop this bubble of delusion. Interesting how Hollywood puts out movies and TV shows
    that engage in whitewashing of epic failures by US special forces and soldiers. I recall these BS movies and shows from the
    1980s where Delta Force was mythical in its prowess and where the My Lai massacre was excused as stress on US soldiers
    from Vietnamese daring to fight back against the invaders.

    Abu Ghraib tells us who the real barbarians are. No amount of Polish bootlick apologia coupled with propaganda talking points
    can erase and reshape reality.



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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:15 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Some Polish moron general gives his views of Russia's special forces and the soldiers who fought in various wars including WWII.
    Basically, Russians are barbarians who lack the sophistication of westerners.   This is a sample of the hate-filled chauvinist
    bubble of delusion that dominates NATO decision makers.    The self-image is so detached from reality as to be shocking.
    The projection of inferiority onto Russians is simply pathological.  

    The video gives some examples that pop this bubble of delusion.   Interesting how Hollywood puts out movies and TV shows
    that engage in whitewashing of epic failures by US special forces and soldiers.   I recall these BS movies and shows from the
    1980s where Delta Force was mythical in its prowess and where the My Lai massacre was excused as stress on US soldiers
    from Vietnamese daring to fight back against the invaders.  

    Abu Ghraib tells us who the real barbarians are.   No amount of Polish bootlick apologia coupled with propaganda talking points
    can erase and reshape reality.




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