Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

Solncepek wrote:

WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN HELICOPTERS ???
WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN JET-FIGHTERS ???

WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN AIR FORCES ???

that's from 1st August. They're all dead now.

After Cancer I present you Ebola.

Solncepek wrote:Российский Ми-8 в Сирии сбили из новейшего «Стингера»: будем ждать «обратку»

4.08.2016 · В мире
Ми-8



http://k-politika.ru/rossijskij-mi-8-v-sirii-sbili-iz-novejshego-stingera-budem-zhdat-obratku/

What a bunch of nonsense.

So the chopper alone goes among Jihadi territory for "Intelligence mission" with a CSAR helicopter. Simply put for whatever reason the chopper went astray from corridor. Also the helicopter had a 6000m ceiling assuming that they could have flown at 5000, however, the hulk was rather intact and presented no sign of forceful entry or peppering on the tail (which was detached clean from ground contact). The helicopter could have been brought down by anything AA, and unfortunately the black boxes can't be recovered.

This indicates that the Mil was to close for comfort from something and IMO it wasn't Stinger but different medium range system.

Is Solncepek even Russian? I suspect he is a NATO troll who pretends to be Russian to piss everyone and hope to make people hate Russians. Me thinks he is an American buttkisser CIA troll agent

Solncepek wrote:

WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN HELICOPTERS ???
WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN JET-FIGHTERS ???

WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN AIR FORCES ???

I thought Putin pulled Russian air force back to Russia when he signed the February 27 peace deal with Kerry?

Vann7 wrote:

Solncepek wrote:

WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN HELICOPTERS ???
WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN JET-FIGHTERS ???

WHERE ARE THE RUSSIAN AIR FORCES ???

Russia airforce is seriously limited by the small force deployed in Latakkia .
My Bet is NATO RADARs in Turkey and in Cyprus with their satellite observation, warns
before hand ,the terrorist ,any time the Russian airforce is moving in their direction
so they seek cover or camouflage their trucks whenever Russia airforce close. Aside the Syrian
Army is not properly armed to deal with very fast moving targets , in kamikazi suicide attacks full of explosives.

Bad excuse. Buildings don't move. Even if they are warned, which I doubt, it does not help.

Besides, even if there are warnings, where's the super duper Tu-214R and Il-20M planes that can intercept such warnings? Don't tell me the super duper Tu-214R and Il-20M planes are only for show and Russians never use them.

Where on earth are Smerchs? Dozens of these things should be positioned at the Aleppo airport and the Kuweiris airbase pounding bad people 24 7.

Russia must deploy a battalion of ASVK snipers and hunt down jihadists from distances of about a kilometer. A few hundred ASVK snipers will devastate a few thousand jihadists.

If Russia does not deploy ground forces now, Russia will have to deploy ground forces in the near future.

Russia cannot hold its border if jihadists overrun Syria and turn every Syrian into a jihadist.

SNipers cannot defeat armored trucks with full of bombs while staying at safe distance from
the destruction zone. Even if they manage to kill the driver , the truck explosives will wipe or wound any sniper withing ~1k of the place.

just one terrorist humvee with TNT look what it can do.






any sniper there will be killed with one truck bomb.

Why not bomb Jihadist staging areas where they prep their bomb trucks? Because of civilian human shields? Thats too bad cause US is immune to such strategy, look at Manjib where 40 civs were reportedly killed after US bombing. I dont know whats holding Russia back but I wish they know what they're doing, i mean if forumers like us can see whats wrong and what needs to be done, they should know too right??

Project Canada wrote:
Why not bomb Jihadist staging areas where they prep their bomb trucks? Because of civilian human shields? Thats too bad cause US is immune to such strategy, look at Manjib where 40 civs were reportedly killed after US bombing. I dont know whats holding Russia back but I wish they know what they're doing, i mean if forumers like us can see whats wrong and what needs to be done, they should know too right??

Russia signed a peace deal with Kerry on February 27. Russians always keep their word. Russia signed peace deal with Hitler and didn't do anything until Hitler reached Moscow and massacred millions of civilians. Russia signed deal with Reagan and broke up USSR. Russia signed deal with Ukraine and allows Ukrainians to shell Donbas every ding dong day and kill civilians. Russia deals always kill Russians in the end yet Russians always keep their word even if it means getting killed.

Vann7 wrote:SNipers cannot defeat armored trucks with full of bombs while staying at safe distance from
the destruction zone. Even if they manage to kill the driver , the truck explosives will wipe or wound any sniper withing ~1k of the place.

just one terrorist humvee with TNT look what it can do.

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any sniper there will be killed with one truck bomb.

You are right. It is pointless to send advanced equipment to SAA. It might be damaged by unstoppable terrorist's truck-bombs.

Best solution is for SAA to send one suicide bomber to stop enemy SVIBED. Sacrifice one useless grunt to save several.

And that one SAA waste of air will find purpose in death that he never had in life.

Project Canada wrote:
Why not bomb Jihadist staging areas where they prep their bomb trucks? Because of civilian human shields? Thats too bad cause US is immune to such strategy, look at Manjib where 40 civs were reportedly killed after US bombing. I dont know whats holding Russia back but I wish they know what they're doing, i mean if forumers like us can see whats wrong and what needs to be done, they should know too right??

Because RUssia needs to fight in Syria Under the Rules of the American controlled world.
Russia economy depends a lot on the west and do not want sanctions or be isolated from Europe.

So if Russia goes a just nuke the hell of any place terrorist hide ,regardless of civilians ,the war will be over in a day. Or if bomb cities terrorist control every inch of it, Russia will be accused of genocide of millions . just like Germany was ,and forced to pay money to the victims.
This is why i say Russia needs to be completely independent from western world. and not care about any sanction.  Putin's leaderless Russia ,  that follows what their american partners tells them to do,is what allows Russia to be a punching bag of the west and humiliated it every time.   If US Army was fighting for real terrorist , they will wipe them easy , starve them to death with no humanitarian help on any siege and drop chemical weapons on Cities controlled by rebels. they will have license to do any thing without any care for any international laws. Cities like IDLIB or raqqa that are hotbead for Sunni extremist have welcomed Alqaeda since the start..
so the same population even if "liberated" will continue cooperating with terror.

Best solution is for SAA to send one suicide bomber to stop enemy SVIBED. Sacrifice one useless grunt to save several. And that one SAA waste of air will find purpose in death that he never had in life.

What works for alnusra can also work for Syrian army. So they could do that too and it will work. To fill a half a dozen of BMP with TNT and rush to terrorist lines and blow them up..
Will work wonders. This will be far better than they surrendering to the terrorist as sometimes they do.

I'm worried about the Latakia base. If Aleppo falls, and it sure looks that way, Latakia cannot hold against millions of jihadists. Russia needs to plan what to do with the Latakia base immediately.

SAA says Russian air force refused SAA request to participate in the Aleppo battle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/4wipwk/%D8%A8%D8%B9%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%B4_%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%86_%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%AC%D9%88_%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%A7/

This seems to confirm Russia's official statement that Russia will not help SAA in Aleppo.

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160803/1043889570/russia-aleppo-offensive-ryabkov.html

Kriva wrote:Russia just go home.
STOP prolonging this agony.

Hello ignore list my old friend...

Americans got what they wanted, a test of Russia military's true capabilities.

The super duper Syria army was said to be the best in the Middle East. It was exposed as an incompetent force in the Syria war. Israel can annex Syria within weeks if Israel wants to.

The super duper Russia military was said to be one of the best in the world. Syria war exposed the incompetence of Russia military. If thousands of jihadists invade Russia using SVBIEDs, all the major cities would be ruined by bombing. Russia airstrikes are woefully inadequate and lack precision bombs and thermobaric bombs.

If Russia cannot stop jihadist in Syria, then no way Russia can stop jihadists in Russia. Heck, Americans realize, we don't need a grand army of NATO, Japan, Australia to kill every Russian man, woman, child, we can do that using thousands of jihadists armed with SVBIEDS. What's Russia gonna do? Use nukes on its own major cities?

The Syria war exposed Russia military's weakness. Russia's air force is said to be the best and most modern branch of Russia military. Yet it is useless in Syria. Russia realized the need to develop MALE UCAV planes. 24 7 monitoring of the battlefield, ready to strike at a moment's notice, at fast moving targets, using precision guided missiles. Lack of intel is also a weakness that needs to be addressed.

If NATO, Japan, Australia and their jihadist proxies invade Russia today, much of Russia would be quickly overrun and in ruins based on the pathetic performance of Russia military in Syria. Heck, it would be a bigger fuck up compared to the opening days of the Great Patriot War.

Syria war is the westerner's test of Russia military. See how competent and effective Russia military really is. And so far Russia military is disappointing in Syria considering how hyped it was.

Russia hardly cares about Aleppo. I sense the Russians are only keen on maintaining order and unified, territorial integrity in Latakia and Tartous (done). Then it's important for them to keep Homs and Damascus cities in relative order (mostly achieved). Also for Russia a route from the coast all the way to Palmyra is important for future pipeline politics (mostly achieved too).

Aleppo, Raqqa and Deir Ezor is Iran's problem, with their whole Shia axis politics at risk.

KiloGolf wrote:Russia hardly cares about Aleppo. I sense the Russians are only keen on maintaining order and unified, territorial integrity in Latakia and Tartous (done). Then it's important for them to keep Homs and Damascus cities in relative order (mostly achieved). Also for Russia a route from the coast all the way to Palmyra is important for future pipeline politics (mostly achieved too).

Aleppo, Raqqa and Deir Ezor is Iran's problem, with their whole Shia axis politics at risk.

Latakia and Tartus cannot hold if Aleppo falls. If Aleppo falls, millions of SVBIEDs will rush the Hmeimim base. Even now, jihadists are digging a tunnel to under the Hmeimim base. A few months from now, boom, the Hmeimim base will be blown up by a massive tunnel bomb and every Russian serviceman in Syria will be dead.

@Resistance, if you have such valuable information regarding tunnel bombs being digged to destroy Hmeimim airbase, may i suggest that you relay your information to the Russian ministry of defence? They have a contact us link on the top left of their website.,

http://eng.mil.ru

Project Canada wrote:
@Resistance, if you have such valuable information regarding  tunnel bombs being digged to destroy Hmeimim airbase, may i suggest that you relay your information to the Russian ministry of defence? They have a contact us link on the top left of their website.,

http://eng.mil.ru

Yes they are digging a tunnel bomb to the Hmeimim base right now. These fags only have 2 tricks up their sleeves. Tunnel bombs and car bombs. These fags desecrated the bodies of 5 Russian servicemen after they shot down that Mi-8. These fags want to be martyrs and get 72 virgins. These fags are not afraid to fight the Russian army unlike Ukrainian soldiers who do. Ukrainian soldiers value their lives. These fags do not.

I am Chinese. I do not speak Russian. It would be better for someone who does to contact the MOD. If that tunnel bomb is not stopped and explodes, hundreds of Russian servicemen would be dead.

KiloGolf wrote:Russia hardly cares about Aleppo. I sense the Russians are only keen on maintaining order and unified, territorial integrity in Latakia and Tartous (done). Then it's important for them to keep Homs and Damascus cities in relative order (mostly achieved). Also for Russia a route from the coast all the way to Palmyra is important for future pipeline politics (mostly achieved too).

Aleppo, Raqqa and Deir Ezor is Iran's problem, with their whole Shia axis politics at risk.

Indeed, the primary objectives of the Russian intervention have been achieved.
But that does not mean that the secondary objectives will be neglected.
At the moment, the focal point of the conflict is Aleppo. The terrorists and their backers are throwing everything at it.
I think we will see some more bloody battles in the next few days.

Russian planes bomb the shit out of fags in Ramouseh

https://twitter.com/hamza_780/status/762343397361381376

@Resistance

If your chinese , then it is really shameful that Chinese people are not presuring their government to give a hand Russia in Syria. There is a millions of things China could do to ease
the operations for Russia ,that is literary ALONE in Syria saving it from falling to NATO backed Alqaeda and ISIS terrorist. If China is concerned about losing soldiers , they can send drones
,spy drones to help Russian Airforce keep an eye of the movements of the terrorist at all times
in the most crucial moments. China can also help with Humanitarian help too , and ease the burden of Russia that needs not only to provide weapons to Syria but also food. China can help also by sending 1 warship of the hundreds they have ,to search for NATO submarines ,mines and help Russia with their security. China can even give away drones to Syria ,so many things they can do , but do NOTHING. And all this applies to India. Two major powers , that observe how Russia is under a proxy war by NATO and just do nothing to help Russia. When China was under threat in the Korean war , NATO getting close to their borders ,Russia send pilots and migs planes to fight Americans. and it made a major contribution shutting down hundreds of Americans and its allies planes.

When it comes to Latakia , is a very mountainous ,very dense vegetation ,very hard to move zone. This is in most places. So terrorist tactics of speed attacks using trucks are not effective there. not in every place. to take a hill anywhere in latakia have to be done on Foot and not even artillery is easy to move there. So is unlikely the terrorist will be able to dig a tunnel on their own all the way to the Russia air base. from Latakia. will have to be very deep , and bypass rock solid mountains. NATO however could do that from Turkey border , but for sure Russia will spot such movements. Nothing is impossible ,but Latakia geography makes any fight
there very hard and slow in most places ,since have to be done on foot to climb a hill.

When it comes to Russia whether they are helping or not in Aleppo , it could be just PR
and not real. Russia needs to play a shameful game in Syria , of cease of fires with terrorist ,consequence of its mediocre leader . That since came to power ,the only thing he cared ,was to
raise Russia economy the easy way ,just creating a monopoly of energy, while totally ignoring ,the need for Russia development of its civilian industry and technology ,to become totally independent of the west and self suficient in all. Putin's new import substitution program ,
is about 16 years late. Because should have been implemented as soon he came to power in 2000, and not in 2016. and help Russia to become truly independent of the west. Truly independent in politics ,in technology and on its economy.

Had Stalin was the leader of Russia. they will not be asking Permission Americans to bombs
Alqaeda or ISIS. Putin's image of Russia was totally shortsighted , he really taught , their Americans partners were going to leave Russia interest alone ,as long Russia look to the other side ,whenever Americans invaded a nation and began to take control of all europe.