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    sepheronx

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:13 pm

    They could fight Turkey and not much nato can do since they are there illegally. But Russia won't because of other bullshit I suppose. May be time for the Russians to start reinforcing the air force base with anti air and artillery weapons.

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    Post  par far on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:20 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter.  It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.

    While the SDF went back as fast as it could vs Turkey, they lost real people vs ISIS. Having to pull back from territory you were counting on to form a kurdish unified area while your buddy Uncle Scam told you it would be fine, that's something Kurds aren't going to take well. Kurds have 0 legs to more towards "Russian" Areas. And Turkey by its lack of assets in the area isn't going to risk a shot down squadron because they had the wrong idea. It's a Mexican stand-off and the Turks are part of it. Kurds had a nice choice to make, they didn't. C'est la vie.

    I am not saying Kurds, but Turks, US and their terrorist buddies Al-Sham and FSA will start moving west.

    Maybe the troll is correct. I mean, lets be real here. Russia fucked up horribly and allowed Libya to be destroyed and lost 10'S of billions. It allowed Ukraine to be turned into what it is now, and allowing the Novorussia to be murdered.  Something tells me that whatever Putin does, is a show. I am becoming quite disenchanted with the guy and his actions (or lack of) Crimea was brilliant but I think that was the just of it. Maybe I am wrong and that there are other motives, but I am not seeing it


    Libya was not on Putin, that was Medvedev, in Ukraine Yanukovych was looking to the west for "billions in investments" but Russia should acted when the fake revolution was going on, Novorussia received lots from Russia(Novorussia was held back when they had Debaltseve pocket, which hopefully does not happen again). The US threw the Kurds under the bus to appease the Turks, so the Kurds will now be going for allies, if they attack Russia and Syria, they will be fighting on two fronts.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  par far on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:22 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Kurds are going to be fine. They are paid for by US and they agreed to move back due to US. The fight at Jarablus was a fake and no casualties or any fighting for that matter.  It was an attempt to capture land and prevent Kurds from gaining. Now the question is, what will they do next? I suspect start ex0anding towards Russian and Syrian controlled areas.

    While the SDF went back as fast as it could vs Turkey, they lost real people vs ISIS. Having to pull back from territory you were counting on to form a kurdish unified area while your buddy Uncle Scam told you it would be fine, that's something Kurds aren't going to take well. Kurds have 0 legs to more towards "Russian" Areas. And Turkey by its lack of assets in the area isn't going to risk a shot down squadron because they had the wrong idea. It's a Mexican stand-off and the Turks are part of it. Kurds had a nice choice to make, they didn't. C'est la vie.

    I am not saying Kurds, but Turks, US and their terrorist buddies Al-Sham and FSA will start moving west.

    Maybe the troll is correct. I mean, lets be real here. Russia fucked up horribly and allowed Libya to be destroyed and lost 10'S of billions. It allowed Ukraine to be turned into what it is now, and allowing the Novorussia to be murdered.  Something tells me that whatever Putin does, is a show. I am becoming quite disenchanted with the guy and his actions (or lack of) Crimea was brilliant but I think that was the just of it. Maybe I am wrong and that there are other motives, but I am not seeing it


    Are they don't doing that right now?
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:25 pm

    Then that means Russia will have to start preparing if they will have to strike Turkey and US if they make it to latakia and such. Or they will be forced out by Turkey and US, falling back to home and Armenia.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  par far on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:28 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Then that means Russia will have to start preparing if they will have to strike Turkey and US if they make it to latakia and such.  Or they will be forced out by Turkey and US, falling back to home and Armenia.


    They are already prepared, when Russian launched the Kalibr Missiles from the Caspian Sea, that was a message, that they prepared.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:31 pm

    sepheronx wrote:...............

    I am not saying Kurds, but Turks, US and their terrorist buddies Al-Sham and FSA will start moving west.

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    Seph, Turks did not do anything here on their own. They were allowed to do it by Russia. And Turks know it. They will be busy with Kurds up there for a long time.

    Anyone goes west he is fried. Al-Sham and FSA can and do try it all the time. So far no joy. And there will be none. That is Russian real estate now.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:33 pm

    Clearly not then. Or they would have already told US and Turkey to go pound sand. They didn't. Russia isn't doing anything but prolonging this. These ceasefire done more harm than good. Allowing US in just created more terrorists, them not saying anything to Turkey and US allowed now Turkey to take land legitimately.

    If Russia isn't going to help Assad, maybe they should go home? I mean, US is encroaching on Russian territory, so they are going to need the men to be prepared to fight at home. So long as Putin doesn't roll over instantly without putting up a fight.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Resistance on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:34 pm

    Russia needs to prepare for a dirty trick the west use in Latakia. Millions of human waves. Brainwashed 72 virgin zombies. Only 4000 marines is not enough to defend base.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:34 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:...............

    I am not saying Kurds, but Turks, US and their terrorist buddies Al-Sham and FSA will start moving west.

    ....................

    Seph, Turks did not do anything here on their own. They were allowed to do it by Russia. And Turks know it. They will be busy with Kurds up there for a long time.

    Anyone goes west he is fried. Al-Sham and FSA can and do try it all the time. So far no joy. And there will be none. That is Russian real estate now.

    Just wait and see. Notice how US took Ukraine easily? And that is native Russian lands. Russian pilot dies, Russian authorities state they will never forget or forgive Turkey over this, and then they did. After a simple apology. At that point, the Russian people should have had mass demonstrations against Putin for being such a fucking bitch, but nope. No, Turkey didn't get Russian approval. They don't need to. Russia rolls over. Medvedev was more of a man than Putin was. He at least fought US mercs and Georgians.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Project Canada on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:36 pm

    Its very disappointing to see how Russia falls almost everytime to American trickery. I mean, even common forumers can already see the real motives behind American and Turkish actions, yet the Russian leadership seems so clueless about whats Really going on! This is one reason why I decided to avoid following the events in Syria, i just wish one day i'll find out that the US and Turkey has been kicked out for good.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  Project Canada on Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:42 pm

    The only solution is to collapse the American economy, all these wars are just the symptom, its the heart of the disease that needs to be taken out, which is the USA
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:01 pm

    Most on Twitter agree this is a stab at Russia and that Russia fucked up. They are saying that Putin is weak and that Russian intelligence is Fricking Piss poor, and I agree with that.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:35 pm

    Lol, Kurds are in panic mode, dissing the US, only bot trolls like the R Guy  are having a strike.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  medo on Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:10 pm

    Russia fu**ed up? Than what will you say for US? US NATO ally Turkey invade in Syria, where they attack US terrorist group ISIL, which are fighting with moderate US terrorists FSA and US allies Kurds. US game is even more screwed there.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:22 pm

    It actually makes sense. US has every group in its pocket besides SAA and NDF. It uses Daesh as excuse to invade. Turkey used same and Kurdish threat. Kurds back down cause US said so. And there was no fight between Turkey and its US buddies/terrorists. They just waltzed in. But they needed an excuse. So now all there is left is Assad. They will use any other excuse and US used Kurds badly against Assad. Now they have no use for them.

    Russia fucked up because they didn't deal with Turkey after Su-24 being shot down. They talked tough but were far too quick to forgive. No money, no arrest and such for the people responsible. Nothing. But they forgave them after two of their own were murdered.

    US and Turkey now saw this weakness in Russia and is exploiting it. Nothing is being accomplished. Aleppo is taking forever and other areas is a trading game of winning and losing. In the end, Turkey obtained new territory and may be moving closer to Aleppo itself. What then?

    If Russia told Turkey to pound sand after apologizing, things may be different.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

    Post  TheArmenian on Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:26 pm

    Let me see.

    Turks, Kurds, FSA, ISIS and Nusra are all fighting each other.

    Can I have more popcorn please?

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