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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:57 am

    ultron wrote:It looks like Putin forced Assad to resign after a 4 months transitional period. This is a Yemen redo. Saleh was forced to resign and replaced by a pro Saudi Hadi who won a 1 man election. If the same thing happens in Syria, it would be a big blow to Russia because Assad is the last pro Russia leader in the ME.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/opposition-leader-assad-leaving-4-months/

    If assads leave ,nothing will change . The Syrian army will continue fighting terrorist
    and someone of Syrians trust will take his place. Assad leaving will end the Obama and
    kerry arguments that There is no peace because Assad is in power. he can be re elected again
    in the next elections too. What is important is that Syrian army capture 100% of the territories ,that is what matters.

    Now Americans and its coalition and their sponsored terrorist will be unmasked if Assad steps down ,because their main argument was that Assad to step down. the terrorist will continue fighting and Assad will be justified to return. Because it changed nothing he leaving.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:14 am

    Wow, we have two geniuses here. BTW, is there a credible evidence? Guy is spewing his wet dreams. First its splitting Syria apart and now getting rid of assad for an islamist? Are you two that dimwitted or do you actually believe everything you read. Cause if that is the case, I got box of goodies to sell you guys. Costly though.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:27 am

    sepheronx wrote:Wow, we have two geniuses here.  BTW, is there a credible evidence?  Guy is spewing his wet dreams.  First its splitting Syria apart and now getting rid of assad for an islamist?  Are you two that dimwitted or do you actually believe everything you read.  Cause if that is the case, I got box of goodies to sell you guys.  Costly though.

    you apparently don't know how to read. notice the [ IF ]. IF Assad leaves will not matter.
    Which is truth. As long Syrians are allowed to pick their leadership it will not matter. The vice President is very patriotic too , there are lots of good patriotic Syrians in positions in the Government that could take Assad place temporarily or permanently if there is a need for it.
    It will not be the end of the world ,not even close. What matters is that the Syrian army push the terrorist back or at very least hold their places . Since time will be on the side of Syria.

    and https://www.almasdarnews is one of the best sources in Syrian conflict.
    not that they cannot commit mistakes but generally they are good source of information.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:37 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Wow, we have two geniuses here.  BTW, is there a credible evidence?  Guy is spewing his wet dreams.  First its splitting Syria apart and now getting rid of assad for an islamist?  Are you two that dimwitted or do you actually believe everything you read.  Cause if that is the case, I got box of goodies to sell you guys.  Costly though.

    you apparently don't know how to read. notice the [ IF ]. IF Assad leaves will not matter.
    Which is truth. As long Syrians are allowed to pick their leadership it will not matter. The vice President is very patriotic too , there are lots of good patriotic Syrians in positions in the Government that could take Assad place temporarily or permanently if there is a need for it.
    It will not be the end of the world ,not even close. What matters is that the Syrian army push the terrorist back or at very least hold their places . Since time will be on the side of Syria.

    and  https://www.almasdarnews is one of the best sources in Syrian conflict.  
    not that they cannot commit mistakes but generally they are good source of information.

    I never blamed the source. I am just stating is do not believe everything you hear. Half a week ago Assad and his Wife also casted their ballots. If this was the case of what the moron is claiming, then it would be all over the news from other, reliable, sources. Remember the plane shot down in Raqqa that never happened? Yeah.

    The source is picking up all news it can get. And yes, they have been quite reliable. But the problem is, they give quotes from someone without any commentation meaning that it appears to be as "proof" but it isn't.

    If the resolution stated that Assad must leave in 4 months regardless how the people felt even during these elections which Russia supports, wouldn't everything done even today be considered counter productive? But, the SAA still fight on, Russia is still bombing, and this guy is wetting himself over his dreams.

    Ultron is a nut case. He simply provides nothing by hysterics. He stated how many times Putin has abandoned Syria and what not, and yet is proven wrong every time. And yet still comes back for more. He is like our Higgens on this forums.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  wilhelm on Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:14 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Wow, we have two geniuses here.  BTW, is there a credible evidence?  Guy is spewing his wet dreams.  First its splitting Syria apart and now getting rid of assad for an islamist?  Are you two that dimwitted or do you actually believe everything you read.  Cause if that is the case, I got box of goodies to sell you guys.  Costly though.

    Vann7 and Ultron are the same poster.
    There have been numerous requests not to quote the stupid rubbish Ultron vomits onto this forum, but Vann7 ignores all those requests and goes out of his way to quote Ultron's trolls.
    At first I thought the other posters were simply making this up, but is has become blatantly obvious.
    You will note that very few people respond to Vann7 now as a a rather obvious result. So the same person is basically pretending to be 2 different posters but is forced to chat to, and answer himself. Very sad, but very tiresome for everyone else.

    Oh, and be aware Ultron goes by the name Captain Ooeuff on keypublishing forums. The giveaway was when he simply copied and pasted his exact replies here, word for word, to there on more than one occasion. His blatant and bizarre trolling was as tiresome there as it is here, but I'm not sure if he has maybe been culled over there yet.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:55 pm

    I think he has a disqus account by the name German. I think on almasdarnews or south front (or maybe RI) cause I read a comment that was near exactly what Ultron says.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ultron on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:21 pm

    Opposition withdrew from peace talks today because they cannot get Assad to resign. War is back on. Putin says will continue to respect peace treaty signed with Kerry and not help SAA.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ultron on Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:11 pm

    Opposition envoy walked out of peace talks in Geneva. Peace is finished. Thanks Putin for being a real softy. Wake up to reality. Jihadists is a completely different animal compared to Ukrainian soldiers. Ukrainian soldiers are afraid of death. Jihadists are not.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Shadåw on Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:28 pm

    wilhelm wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Wow, we have two geniuses here.  BTW, is there a credible evidence?  Guy is spewing his wet dreams.  First its splitting Syria apart and now getting rid of assad for an islamist?  Are you two that dimwitted or do you actually believe everything you read.  Cause if that is the case, I got box of goodies to sell you guys.  Costly though.

    Vann7 and Ultron are the same poster.
    There have been numerous requests not to quote the stupid rubbish Ultron vomits onto this forum, but Vann7 ignores all those requests and goes out of his way to quote Ultron's trolls.
    At first I thought the other posters were simply making this up, but is has become blatantly obvious.
    You will note that very few people respond to Vann7 now as a a rather obvious result. So the same person is basically pretending to be 2 different posters but is forced to chat to, and answer himself. Very sad, but very tiresome for everyone else.

    Oh, and be aware Ultron goes by the name Captain Ooeuff on keypublishing forums. The giveaway was when he simply copied and pasted his exact replies here, word for word, to there on more than one occasion. His blatant and bizarre trolling was as tiresome there as it is here, but I'm not sure if he has maybe been culled over there yet.
    If this is not enough evidence for a permament ban Idk..what is..tbh.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:09 pm

    Got both on ignore so...

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:06 am

    wilhelm wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Wow, we have two geniuses here.  BTW, is there a credible evidence?  Guy is spewing his wet dreams.  First its splitting Syria apart and now getting rid of assad for an islamist?  Are you two that dimwitted or do you actually believe everything you read.  Cause if that is the case, I got box of goodies to sell you guys.  Costly though.

    Vann7 and Ultron are the same poster.
    There have been numerous requests not to quote the stupid rubbish Ultron vomits onto this forum, but Vann7 ignores all those requests and goes out of his way to quote Ultron's trolls.
    At first I thought the other posters were simply making this up, but is has become blatantly obvious.
    You will note that very few people respond to Vann7 now as a a rather obvious result. So the same person is basically pretending to be 2 different posters but is forced to chat to, and answer himself. Very sad, but very tiresome for everyone else.

    Oh, and be aware Ultron goes by the name Captain Ooeuff on keypublishing forums. The giveaway was when he simply copied and pasted his exact replies here, word for word, to there on more than one occasion. His blatant and bizarre trolling was as tiresome there as it is here, but I'm not sure if he has maybe been culled over there yet.

    then just ignore me and simply shut the F!@#.  
    But if you cannot tolerate a different opinion then to hell with you.

    And stop derailing the topic with your stupidity and non sense. this is the Russia in the syrian war topic. Thanks!


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ultron on Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:10 am

    Vann7 wrote:then just ignore me and simply shut the F!@#.  
    But if you cannot tolerate a different opinion then to hell with you.

    Russian people are not allowed to criticize their king leader Putin even if Moscow is lost to the US.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  crod on Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:40 am

    any map updates? these pages are becoming useless and unreadable because of trolling...
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Erk on Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:03 am

    Some map updates in this video


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    T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    Post  JohnSnow on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:28 am

    T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/722325189741174785

    Shorta is damaged, missing front ERA blocks...

    A bit curios that there's no terrorist in the picture and there's no signs or flags of the terrorists anywhere there.

    If this turns out to be true then SAA is really crap.
    First, one the tanks got hit by tow missile due to idiotic crew, and now this.

    Let's wait and see if there more to this picture or not.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:42 am







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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:43 am

    JohnSnow wrote: T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/722325189741174785

    Shorta is damaged, missing front ERA blocks...

    A bit curios that there's no terrorist in the picture and there's no signs or flags of the terrorists anywhere there.

    If this turns out to be true then SAA is really crap.
    First, one the tanks got hit by tow missile due to idiotic crew, and now this.

    Let's wait and see if there more to this picture or not.

    If it's lost, the tank will be found. And blown. The problem is how these can get stuck in Al Eis. Also we don't know the intricacies of the "capture". If the tank is bogged down or for whatever reason it couldn't be moved up then yeah, you leave it. But it seems like it has been moved on. Also it looks suspiciously as the damage from the previous TOW-stricken 21-4 tank. Same area hit, same damage.

    I'd need more proof.

    Also it's not ISIS, it's JAN. Which opens a different possibility.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:46 am

    JohnSnow wrote: T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/722325189741174785

    Shorta is damaged, missing front ERA blocks...

    A bit curios that there's no terrorist in the picture and there's no signs or flags of the terrorists anywhere there.

    If this turns out to be true then SAA is really crap.
    First, one the tanks got hit by tow missile due to idiotic crew, and now this.

    Let's wait and see if there more to this picture or not.

    Its Al Nusra not ISIS. Looks like that tank that was already damaged too, knocked off Shtora
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:02 am

    Militarov wrote:
    JohnSnow wrote: T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/722325189741174785

    Shorta is damaged, missing front ERA blocks...

    A bit curios that there's no terrorist in the picture and there's no signs or flags of the terrorists anywhere there.

    If this turns out to be true then SAA is really crap.
    First, one the tanks got hit by tow missile due to idiotic crew, and now this.

    Let's wait and see if there more to this picture or not.

    Its Al Nusra not ISIS. Looks like that tank that was already damaged too, knocked off Shtora

    I'm not willing to buy this until there's a Nusra goon atop of it. Second picture looks like during repair. Two tanks hit in the same area, by the same people, highly unlikely. If they could capture it, they could have blown it to bits first. It's not easy to capture these things, despite Ukraine's poor record and SAA's one.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  Militarov on Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:05 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    JohnSnow wrote: T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/722325189741174785

    Shorta is damaged, missing front ERA blocks...

    A bit curios that there's no terrorist in the picture and there's no signs or flags of the terrorists anywhere there.

    If this turns out to be true then SAA is really crap.
    First, one the tanks got hit by tow missile due to idiotic crew, and now this.

    Let's wait and see if there more to this picture or not.

    Its Al Nusra not ISIS. Looks like that tank that was already damaged too, knocked off Shtora

    I'm not willing to buy this until there's a Nusra goon atop of it. Second picture looks like during repair. Two tanks hit in the same area, by the same people, highly unlikely. If they could capture it, they could have blown it to bits first. It's not easy to capture these things, despite Ukraine's poor record and SAA's one.

    Thing is that it was not posted by Nusra affiliate, but that Mark guy that spams about destroyed TU-160 bombers and similar bs, and it later spread around. So idk... but yeah it seems like same tank that was damaged some days ago by TOW. Also they say this tank wasnt operated by SAA but Hezb.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:11 am

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    JohnSnow wrote: T-90 purportedly captured by ISIS

    https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/722325189741174785

    Shorta is damaged, missing front ERA blocks...

    A bit curios that there's no terrorist in the picture and there's no signs or flags of the terrorists anywhere there.

    If this turns out to be true then SAA is really crap.
    First, one the tanks got hit by tow missile due to idiotic crew, and now this.

    Let's wait and see if there more to this picture or not.

    Its Al Nusra not ISIS. Looks like that tank that was already damaged too, knocked off Shtora

    I'm not willing to buy this until there's a Nusra goon atop of it. Second picture looks like during repair. Two tanks hit in the same area, by the same people, highly unlikely. If they could capture it, they could have blown it to bits first. It's not easy to capture these things, despite Ukraine's poor record and SAA's one.

    Thing is that it was not posted by Nusra affiliate, but that Mark guy that spams about destroyed TU-160 bombers and similar bs, and it later spread around. So idk... but yeah it seems like same tank that was damaged some days ago by TOW. Also they say this tank wasnt operated by SAA but Hezb.

    The pictures were posted by Green Lemon. Probably gotten through Reddit. Markito is a german dumbfuck, same vein as Ukraine@War and the rest of the Russo-phobic crew. Yeah so highly unlikely that Hizb would let the tank bogged like that. As they work with the invisible Polite People.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:06 pm

    Aaaaaand now we don't even have a JAN angle to the story...just T90 dmaged by PTUR/ATGM...

    http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/416947.html
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  JohnSnow on Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:27 pm

    Yea I think it does seem like this is the same tank that was hit by TOW.
    It looks like someone got a hold of the picture and decided to do twitter propaganda with it. That would explain the absence of snackbars anywhere near the tank.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

    Post  ultron on Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:01 pm

    Putin clearly out of touch with reality. Even if terrorists take Damascus, Putin will never restart military action against terrorists. Putin = Chamberlain 2, appeasement. What did Assad invite Russian military to Syria for? Not for tea, but for counter terrorism.

    https://twitter.com/syria24english/status/722705924809486336

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