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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:39 pm

    From Aldin's Twitter

    SyrianMilitaryCap. ‏@syrianmilitary 33m33 minutes ago. behold ,first #Syrian made APS ,IR jammer , on a T-72av #Aleppo
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    Post  Guest on Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:47 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    pwnd lol1  Razz

    Ukraine plans to join fight against Isis means troops could come up against Russian forces in Syria

    Any troop deployment into Syria would be controversial in Kiev, not to mention in Europe

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-plans-to-join-fight-against-isis-means-troops-could-come-up-against-russian-forces-in-syria-a6845336.html

    Ukraine has drawn up plans for a potential military contribution to the fight against Isis in Syria in a move that could also pit its troops against Russian forces in the Middle East.

    An options paper drawn up by Ukraine’s defence ministry is to be discussed this week during a visit by US Defence Secretary Ash Carter, who has been touring the world gathering support for the war against the extremist jihadist group.

    According to those who have read it, the paper – produced at the behest of President Petro Poroshenko – highlights the possibility of Ukrainian forces coming up against Russian forces in Syria, and details potential contributions.

    A Ukrainian government source said: “We have prepared a range of options for our support against Isis including in Syria, which could include troops. It could result in potential clashes with Russians.”

    Ukraine’s battle-hardened armed forces would relish such an opportunity. Ukraine has four special-forces regiments and a further unit of its Defence Intelligence  Razz Department – a total of 7,000 troops. It also has highly capable airborne troops, part of a mobilised army numbering 200,000,  lol1 of which 40,000 are always on the country’s eastern front facing pro-Russian rebels.

    In terms of Russian language skills and combating Russian tactics, Ukrainians are world leaders.  lol1  However, any troop deployment into Syria would be controversial in Kiev, and require a parliamentary vote, with some arguing that Ukraine needs to focus on the rebels who pose a continuing threat in its east, despite the current military deadlock. It might also prove controversial in Europe.

    A senior military source in Ukraine’s capital said: “I would see a lot of hand wringing at Nato in Brussels.”
    Well good for them lol. I hope they go through with it. There is a proverb that goes, "When the Cat's away, the mice will play." Maybe the NAF could march all the way to Kiev without losing a single man.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:44 am

    Syrian urban warfare home-made tank Smile

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    PapaDragon wrote:
    pwnd lol1  Razz

    Ukraine plans to join fight against Isis means troops could come up against Russian forces in Syria

    Any troop deployment into Syria would be controversial in Kiev, not to mention in Europe

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-plans-to-join-fight-against-isis-means-troops-could-come-up-against-russian-forces-in-syria-a6845336.html

    Ukraine has drawn up plans for a potential military contribution to the fight against Isis in Syria in a move that could also pit its troops against Russian forces in the Middle East.

    In terms of Russian language skills and combating Russian tactics, Ukrainians are world leaders.  lol1  However, any troop deployment into Syria would be controversial in Kiev, and require a parliamentary vote, with some arguing that Ukraine needs to focus on the rebels who pose a continuing threat in its east, despite the current military deadlock. It might also prove controversial in Europe.

    A senior military source in Ukraine’s capital said: “I would see a lot of hand wringing at Nato in Brussels.”

    oh sh#t now Russians are doomed in Syria Twisted Evil  BTW so Ukrops is going to fight with central regime. The legal one. For democratic, multilingual and federalist Syria? so Syria would be like country 404 ?  What a Face


    Could help not to add this vid: Ukropski politruk says about imminent collapse of Russia




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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:47 am

    is this Galil, Valmet or AK?

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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:04 am

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    Post  satbot on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:31 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:is this Galil, Valmet or AK?

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    None of the above, that looks like a tacticooled type 56.
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    Post  Maximmmm on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:05 am

    JohninMK wrote:From Aldin's Twitter

    SyrianMilitaryCap. ‏@syrianmilitary 33m33 minutes ago.   behold ,first #Syrian made APS ,IR jammer , on a T-72av #Aleppo
    @oryxspioenkop @green_lemonnn @IvanSidorenko1


    Pretty surprised when I saw it, looks like we've definitely helped them get their repair facilities back on track to be able to take care of kit like that. I doubt they'd throw it in if the Syrians didn't have the capacity to at least maintain it.
    Good for the crews either way.
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    Post  Guest on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:38 am

    Maximmmm wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:From Aldin's Twitter

    SyrianMilitaryCap. ‏@syrianmilitary 33m33 minutes ago.   behold ,first #Syrian made APS ,IR jammer , on a T-72av #Aleppo
    @oryxspioenkop @green_lemonnn @IvanSidorenko1


    Pretty surprised when I saw it, looks like we've definitely helped them get their repair facilities back on track to be able to take care of kit like that. I doubt they'd throw it in if the Syrians didn't have the capacity to at least maintain it.
    Good for the crews either way.
    If it is the only one spotted out there (good chance it has considering the hundreds of Syrian War pictures posted daily). There is a good chance that it is a prototype undergoing some field testing and may see further action and more wide-scale use later. Not impossible to do during an armed conflict with the proper equipment (in this case it is Russia's help) too.

    I had an interesting conversation a few months ago with an engineer in the defense sector. He told me about a bunker-buster bomb that was hastily put together and operationally deployed in the short time frame of the First Gulf War. The bomb was a discarded artillery barrel packed with explosives and fitted with a laser guidance system and some fins. The bomb was tested once then was immediately deployed. And this was the United States, one of the most industrialized nations in the world.


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    Post  Maximmmm on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:44 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:
    If it is the only one spotted out there (good chance it has considering the hundreds of Syrian War pictures posted daily). There is a good chance that it is a prototype undergoing some field testing and may see further action and more wide-scale use later. Not impossible to do during an armed conflict with the proper equipment (in this case it is Russia's help) too.

    I had an interesting conversation a few months ago with an engineer in the defense sector. He told me about a bunker-buster bomb that was hastily put together and operationally deployed in the short time frame of the First Gulf War. The bomb was a discarded artillery barrel packed with explosives and fitted with a laser guidance system and some fins. The bomb was tested once then was immediately deployed. And this was the United States, one of the most industrialized nations in the world.

    Yeah, some of the best ideas can be born like that. Necessity breeds creativity and all that.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:11 am

    satbot wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:is this Galil, Valmet or AK?

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    None of the above, that looks like a tacticooled type 56.

    Something's wrong with that type 56, it has parts all over the timeline.

    Fixed bayonet switch and sleeve (which lands it way pre-67/68) but it also has the "encasement" and similar gasport, but different gas block on it like the type 56-1 (look at the third AKMS type of rifle, that's a 56-1). Some "parts" gun made in USA?

    Also bubbaed L1A1 with service scope?
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    Post  KiloGolf on Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:45 am

    sometimes you don't know where to start with Erdo's propaganda...

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    ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG) ‏@anadoluagency Jan 29
    '109 Russian troops killed in Syria' since September http://v.aa.com.tr/512226
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:29 pm

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    Post  wilhelm on Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:37 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:is this Galil, Valmet or AK?

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    Definitely not a Galil. The gas tube and gas block that taps gas leading from the barrel in the Galil is different, the tube being vertical without the flutes stamped into the tube.
    Galil also has a 90 degree vertical extension on the cocking lever, allowing cocking to be done with the left hand easily.
    Galil sights are a different design, and in a different location too.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:30 pm

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    [quote="wilhelm"]
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:is this Galil, Valmet or AK?

    Definitely not a Galil. The gas tube and gas block that taps gas leading from the barrel in the Galil is different, the tube being vertical without the flutes stamped into the tube.
    Galil also has a 90 degree vertical extension on the cocking lever, allowing cocking to be done with the left hand easily.
    Galil sights are a different design, and in a different location too.

    a homemade tacicool AK?


    KiloGolf wrote:sometimes you don't know where to start with Erdo's propaganda...

    ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG) ‏@anadoluagency  Jan 29
    '109 Russian troops killed in Syria' since September http://v.aa.com.tr/512226  

    They did not yet mention thousands of Buryats? Chechens no, they are fighting in Donbass along with Taman division and suffer heavy losses.
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:38 pm

    Limited and probably grudging praise

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The Russian military has been professionally operating flights in Syria in coordination with the United States, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said on Tuesday at the Economic Club in Washington, DC.

    "We [US and Russia] have a memorandum of understanding, we talk at the working level and make sure we’ve safety of flights," Carter stated. "They’ve been behaving very professionally in that regard."


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160202/1034104083/syria-russia-professionalism-pentagon.html#ixzz3z1dZgmCd
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    Post  max steel on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:14 pm

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    Post  short_fuze on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:12 pm

    max steel wrote:THUG LIFE  afro



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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:25 pm

    After the latest advancements of Syrian army in aleppo ,kerry now wants
    a cease of fire.. lol1


    When Assad is winning ,they are Now worried about civilians humanitarian needs.. Rolling Eyes
    and of course who is to blame for this.. ?  is not ISIS ,,noo.. its not alqaeda.. but Assad.  Wink




    Is amazing to see how this people lie and lie with a straight face ,not a single mention
    of how Turkey aids ISIS or how their "moderates" are friendly to them and that the civilian
    crisis is consequences of their support for islamic extremism with weapons .  ISIS was a secondary thing and not related to the civilians humanitarian problem. Rolling Eyes

    and if Kerry looked like a clown.. you have seen nothing..
    take a loot at the British foreign minister claims ,that Putin is stengtening ISIS. lol1



    Its obvious that the latest advances in Aleppo of Russia have truly worried the west
    about their whole operations. Now kerry speaking about weapons of mass destruction again.
    I have no doubts that Americans and Britain with Turkey will start supplying chemical weapons in mass to the terrorist to halt the Syrian army advances and later blame it on Assad. their desperation and lies not even convince anyone . Russia help to Syria have all the possibilities to defeat ISIS and US and UK are really worried about this.


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    Post  medo on Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:43 pm

    Vann7 wrote:After the latest advancements of Syrian army in aleppo ,kerry now wants
    a cease of fire.. lol1


    When Assad is winning ,they are Now worried about civilians humanitarian needs.. Rolling Eyes
    and of course who is to blame for this.. ?  is not ISIS ,,noo.. its not alqaeda.. but Assad.  Wink




    Is amazing to see how this people lie and lie with a straight face ,not a single mention
    of how Turkey aids ISIS or how their "moderates" are friendly to them and that the civilian
    crisis is consequences of their support for islamic extremism with weapons .  ISIS was a secondary thing and not related to the civilians humanitarian problem. Rolling Eyes


    More they are screaming for cease fire, the better it is. Don't look at them SAA and RuAF, keep doing your job.
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:42 pm

    Pretty impressive.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:45 am


    Gatilov: Russia will continue to assist Damascus in fighting terrorists

    http://tass.ru/politika/2634525

    The Deputy foreign Minister also said that linking the start of Syrian peace talks with Damascus's implementation of a number of requirements may be an attempt to block the process

    GENEVA, 2 February. /TASS/. Russia will continue to assist the Syrian government in the fight against terrorism. This was stated by Deputy Minister of foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Gennady Gatilov. "The issue of ceasefire requires the most serious consideration, because it is necessary to determine against whom to enforce the ceasefire, he said. - If we are talking about terrorist organizations in Syria, here our position is clear - we agreed that our fight against terrorism and supporting the Syrian government in the fight against terrorist organizations we will continue". At the same time, Gatilov indicated that to determine the groups which will be subject to a ceasefire, and which - not. However, according to him, while in the compilation of a common list of terrorist organizations has no significant progress. "Work is being done, Jordan gathers information provided by the countries, he said. But differences remain".


    The participation of the Kurds The diplomat also said that Russia hopes to connect the Kurds to the Syrian talks, the special envoy of the UN Secretary General on Syria Staffan de Mistura will continue to send out the invitations.

    Kurdish aspect, I would say, is even prevalent in our discussions, because the Kurds are a serious part of the opposition, he said. - As promised we de Mistura, he will continue to send official invitations to the Kurds. Hopefully in the future they will participate". The Deputy Minister noted that the approaches of Russia on the participation of the Kurds and the US agree. "But, unfortunately, this issue faces stiff opposition of Turkey," he said.

    An attempt to lock the process Gatilov also said that linking the start of Syrian peace talks with Damascus's implementation of a number of requirements may be an attempt to block the process. "From the beginning we opposed the linking of any of aspects with the launch of the negotiation process, whether it be humanitarian issues or any other issues," he said. "Any way that is not stipulated by UN security Council resolution - continued the diplomat. - Therefore, the attempts of linking indicate non-constructive position and may even have any intentions to block the start of negotiations". It is, in particular, the requirement to Damascus to provide humanitarian access and to lift the siege of several cities.

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    Post  Maximmmm on Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:21 am

    Aleppo offensive seems to be going well so far. Let's hope they can close off the northern route soon.
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    Post  Firebird on Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:45 am

    medo wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:After the latest advancements of Syrian army in aleppo ,kerry now wants
    a cease of fire.. lol1


    When Assad is winning ,they are Now worried about civilians humanitarian needs.. Rolling Eyes
    and of course who is to blame for this.. ?  is not ISIS ,,noo.. its not alqaeda.. but Assad.  Wink




    Is amazing to see how this people lie and lie with a straight face ,not a single mention
    of how Turkey aids ISIS or how their "moderates" are friendly to them and that the civilian
    crisis is consequences of their support for islamic extremism with weapons .  ISIS was a secondary thing and not related to the civilians humanitarian problem. Rolling Eyes


    More they are screaming for cease fire, the better it is. Don't look at them SAA and RuAF, keep doing your job.

    I sort of get the feeling Kerry is very embarrassed by what he is told to say by the Monkey-in-Chief.
    I might be wrong, just a suspicion, body language, facial expression etc.
    That doesn't really defend him, because he's a coward.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:33 pm

    The shrieking about peace and ceasefires is exactly the same sh*t that was pulled in Minsk I and II to save the
    sorry asses of the repression forces.   Here NATO is trying to protect its dear terrorist minions.   It is nauseating
    listening to some British blowhard maggot bleat about moderates.  It has been conclusively established that
    al Nusra is the Syrian branch of Al Qaeda and various other factions, such as Al Sham, are the same species of Salafi jihadi.   It is
    not Assad that needs to go, it is NATO and its terrorists that need to go.

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