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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:16 am

    Let the plot thicken...

    Turkey Pro-Kurdish Party Leader Plans to Meet Russian FM in Moscow
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:17 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Guys,

    This seems to be like the last Israeli attack on Damascus, which hadn't happened. Remember.

    See, for example, according to RT

    RT wrote:There are conflicting reports regarding the course of events. Some say that there was an Israeli airstrike on the residential area, while other describe the incident as terrorist mortar shelling.

    Reuters initially cited Syrian state TV as saying that several people had been injured, after rockets launched by “terrorist groups” hit a building in the Jaramana district of Damascus.

    In general, random copy-and-pasts from Twitter isn't what this forum needs.

    As can be seen from the follow-on reports, the story was a fake.


    "max steel", check or ask instead of copy-and-pasting fake stories on this forum; this is your umpteenth time.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:23 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Let the plot thicken...

    Turkey Pro-Kurdish Party Leader Plans to Meet Russian FM in Moscow

    It certainly looks like that carved up Turkey may be part of the entrée of the main course of the current world war (the Reunification War).
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  higurashihougi on Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:23 am

    Some comic relief Very Happy Twisted Evil

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:01 am

    ^^^^
    Nice Smile

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    The following has been reported as a civilian massacre on most MSM media tonight...


    Russian fighter jets strike the Idlib Shariah Courts: 40+ Islamists killed

    The Russian Air Force delivered a series of powerful airstrikes above the provincial capital of the Idlib Governorate on Sunday afternoon, killing over 40 Islamist rebels from Jaysh Al-Fateh (Army of Conquest) before they completely destroyed the Idlib Shariah Courts.

    According to a military source in the Hama Governorate, the Russian Air Force’s fighter jets repeatedly struck the large building where the Shariah Courts were located; this resulted in the death of several militants from the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra, Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham, and Jund Al-Aqsa (also affiliated with Al-Qaeda).

    In addition to striking the Shariah Courts of Idlib City, the Russian fighter jets hit the Idlib Air Force Intelligence headquarters that housed a number of the Islamist fighters and Muslim Brotherhood members.

    As a result of these airstrikes, social media activists from the Muslim Brotherhood attempted to depict the Russian air raid as an attack on civilians; however, the Al-Masdar News staff tracked the location of the attack and researched the targeted sites.

    The Russian Air Force’s airstrikes did kill one member from the Syrian Civil Defense in Idlib City; however, this member was also known for working with Jabhat Al-Nusra and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham during their executions.

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-fighter-jets-strike-the-idlib-shariah-courts-40-islamists-killed/

    The mentioned "civilian" in the above report...


    White helmets criminal Abdul Aziz Al Talwai who was resposible for digging mass graves in Idlib was killed today
    https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/678722326935044097
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Anas Ali on Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:09 am

    Israel killed some hizballah leader and 10 other in Damascus right through Russian and Syrian air defence by targeting the targets with Cruise missile !!!

    how could this happen ?
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:23 am

    Anas Ali wrote:Israel killed some hizballah leader and 10 other in Damascus right through Russian and Syrian air defence by targeting the targets with Cruise missile    !!!

    how could this happen ?

    You can't stop an air raid that hasn't happened.

    Arrow http://www.russiadefence.net/t4737p225-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-7#143506

    In general, air-defense is not a good defense against treachery.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:39 pm

    Anas Ali wrote:Israel killed some hizballah leader and 10 other in Damascus right through Russian and Syrian air defence by targeting the targets with Cruise missile    !!!

    how could this happen ?

    Russia assists Hezbolah against Sunni islamists, ISIS and other Saudi funded scum. Israel/Hezbolah issues are irrelevant for them.

    Gameplan in the Mid East according to Russia is to eventually get Jews and Shias (Israel and Iran specifically) to bury the hatchets once and for all. Best solution for everyone and most desirable and profitable one for Russia.

    That guy was insignificant for the war effort. His only value was seemed to be PR. For some reason Israelis decided to use up the "coupon" they had with Russia on him. Waste of perfectly good coupon if you ask me, but whatever spins their dreidel...

    Another reason why Russia agreed to look the other way is probably because this guy broke a certain taboo back in a day. Like I said during the Su-24 incident, there are some unwritten rules that all good players follow.

    Had Israelis requested to take out some Hesbolah officer with clean resume or who is actually relevant for the war effort Russian answer would be a resounding "don't even dream/think/fantasize about it!!!".
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  AlfaT8 on Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:01 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Anas Ali wrote:Israel killed some hizballah leader and 10 other in Damascus right through Russian and Syrian air defence by targeting the targets with Cruise missile    !!!

    how could this happen ?

    Russia assists Hezbolah against Sunni islamists, ISIS and other Saudi funded scum. Israel/Hezbolah issues are irrelevant for them.

    Gameplan in the Mid East according to Russia is to eventually get Jews and Shias (Israel and Iran specifically) to bury the hatchets once and for all. Best solution for everyone and most desirable and profitable one for Russia.

    That guy was insignificant for the war effort. His only value was seemed to be PR. For some reason Israelis decided to use up the "coupon" they had with Russia on him. Waste of perfectly good coupon if you ask me, but whatever spins their dreidel...

    Another reason why Russia agreed to look the other way is probably because this guy broke a certain taboo back in a day. Like I said during the Su-24 incident, there are some unwritten rules that all good players follow.

    Had Israelis requested to take out some Hesbolah officer with clean resume or who is actually relevant for the war effort Russian answer would be a resounding "don't even dream/think/fantasize about it!!!".

    Apparently Israel is denying the attack, this is very confusing, btw i don't believe it could have been a cruise missile/airstrike S-400 would have made short work of that, and the thought that Russia allowed it is crazy, you don't deploy the S-400 to "allow" sh#t like that to happen.

    Missiles fly over Israeli-Lebanese border after killing of Hezbollah commander in Syria
    Hezbollah claimed that Kuntar was killed by an Israeli airstrike, while Syrian state media spoke of a “terror attack.” Meanwhile, Israel denied responsibility for the attack.

    https://www.rt.com/news/326614-missiles-israel-lebanon-border/
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:06 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Anas Ali wrote:Israel killed some hizballah leader and 10 other in Damascus right through Russian and Syrian air defence by targeting the targets with Cruise missile    !!!

    how could this happen ?

    Russia assists Hezbolah against Sunni islamists, ISIS and other Saudi funded scum. Israel/Hezbolah issues are irrelevant for them.

    Gameplan in the Mid East according to Russia is to eventually get Jews and Shias (Israel and Iran specifically) to bury the hatchets once and for all. Best solution for everyone and most desirable and profitable one for Russia.

    That guy was insignificant for the war effort. His only value was seemed to be PR. For some reason Israelis decided to use up the "coupon" they had with Russia on him. Waste of perfectly good coupon if you ask me, but whatever spins their dreidel...

    Another reason why Russia agreed to look the other way is probably because this guy broke a certain taboo back in a day. Like I said during the Su-24 incident, there are some unwritten rules that all good players follow.

    Had Israelis requested to take out some Hesbolah officer with clean resume or who is actually relevant for the war effort Russian answer would be a resounding "don't even dream/think/fantasize about it!!!".

    Apparently Israel is denying the attack, this is very confusing, btw i don't believe it could have been a cruise missile/airstrike S-400 would have made short work of that, and the thought that Russia allowed it is crazy, you don't deploy the S-400 to "allow" sh#t like that to happen.

    Missiles fly over Israeli-Lebanese border after killing of Hezbollah commander in Syria
    Hezbollah claimed that Kuntar was killed by an Israeli airstrike, while Syrian state media spoke of a “terror attack.” Meanwhile, Israel denied responsibility for the attack.

    https://www.rt.com/news/326614-missiles-israel-lebanon-border/

    Y'all are missing the fact that the S-400 wasn't even there until the Turks shot down a Russian plane.

    And they didn't bring it in all of a sudden to defend Hezbollah. They brought it in to make sure that the Turks don't even think of repeating such a stunt. They didn't care who Israel targets in Damascus before, and they don't care now either.

    Russia never set itself the objective of defending Syrian airspace, that's the Syrians' job.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  NationalRus on Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:41 pm

    what python said.

    some are going crazy again taking theirs personal israel hatred projecting it on russia as if they think the same as you, they dont lol1

    we are no enemies of hezbollah which is good, i always was pro shia but we are no allies ether, were are not there to protect them, we are not even there to be the airforce and air defence of syria and we have a military coordination's center with israel
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:11 pm

    All sides excluding hezbolla are denying it anyway.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Kadmos45 on Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:26 pm

    sepheronx wrote:All sides excluding hezbolla are denying it anyway.

    Yeah building just demolished itself, new sentient concrete formula probably .

    flamming_python wrote:
    They didn't care who Israel targets in Damascus before, and they don't care now either.

    Next time when they will target presidential palace in Damascus i'm afraid they should care.

    flamming_python wrote:
    Russia never set itself the objective of defending Syrian airspace, that's the Syrians' job.

    Because they are soo capable to  shooting down cruise missiles.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  fragmachine on Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:44 pm

    I can guess there is no political capacity for the Russian side to shoot down Turkish or Israeli plane and blame them for their fault. It could of been avoided if at the UN Putin would state that any incursion from NATO on Syrian soil would be considered a threat.

    Any NATO plane falling down from the sky would curb their dogs on doing something as stupid like that in the future.

    It could be done, easy peasy US won't start a WW3 over some few million dollar worth jet being shot down. - loosing billions and manpower in the process.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:50 pm

    Kadmos45 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:All sides excluding hezbolla are denying it anyway.

    Yeah building just demolished itself, new sentient concrete formula probably .

    flamming_python wrote:
    They didn't care who Israel targets in Damascus before, and they don't care now either.

    Next time when they will target presidential palace in Damascus i'm afraid they should care.

    flamming_python wrote:
    Russia never set itself the objective of defending Syrian airspace, that's the Syrians' job.

    Because they are soo capable to  shooting down cruise missiles.
    It was claimed to be a suicide bombing, which has happened frequently in the past in Demascus.  As well, if Israel was gonna hit Assad, they would have done it already.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Kadmos45 on Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:06 pm

    sepheronx wrote:

    It was claimed to be a suicide bombing,

    By whom ? There should be some witnesses, and remains of explosive vehicle, crater and all that.


    sepheronx wrote:
    As well, if Israel was gonna hit Assad, they would have done it already.

    Okay , except they were pretty sure that he would loose anyway. Not that sure with Russia around now.

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