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    NationalRus

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  NationalRus on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 21:09

    well fuck me i have been trashing putin since ever here because he was basically a liberal pussy who didnt had balls to do anything decisively for our national interest and geopolitcal position.
    so who is this guy since 2014? i would fucking vote for him now this geopolitcal pragmatic mastermind, fucking mastermind!

    he went to syria with my pretext that i posted back in 2013 lol1 shiiiiiit i would build him a statue in the middle of moscow now
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 21:37

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 22:27

    NationalRus wrote:well fuck me i have been trashing putin since ever here because he was basically a liberal pussy who didnt had balls to do anything decisively for our national interest and geopolitcal position.
    so who is this guy since 2014? i would fucking vote for him now this geopolitcal pragmatic mastermind, fucking mastermind!

    he went to syria with my pretext that i posted back in 2013 lol1  shiiiiiit i would build him a statue in the middle of moscow now


    Haven't you heard? He was replaced with a clone during his 10 day absence and he is immortal vampire to boot!!! lol1 lol1 lol1


    But seriously, I don't think that Russian public would have OK-ed military action in Syria back in 2013. However this is not 2013 anymore... Cool


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Werewolf on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 22:54

    Putin is a Liberal?

    I think the Translesbogays and hetero haters would like to hear that.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  kvs on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:06

    The best thing about Putin and Russia is that there is no ideology being forced down everyone's throats. Russians
    had decades of this sh*t and they were liberated from it. Unfortunately for westerners they are being subject to
    USSR-style ideological ass rape day in and day out.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:15


    Video: Russian helicopters flying back after bombing #ISIS in #Palmyra

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:22

    Werewolf wrote:Putin is a Liberal?
    he did express support for economic liberalism in early 2000s.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:41


    Syrian Army, Russian Warplanes Wipe Out Militants in N Latakia Province

    The Syrian army and the National Defense Forces have reportedly captured a large depot of militants' weapons and ammunition in the newly-seized village of al-Sayyid in western Syria's province of Latakia.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151219/1032006534/syria-army-daesh.html

    A large depot of militants' weapons and ammunition has been seized by the Syrian Army and popular forces in the newly-captured village of Jabal al-Sayyid in the northern part of Lattakia in western Syria, according to the Iranian news agency FARS.

    "The Syrian government forces seized a large volume of military hardware, including weapons, vehicles and ammunition in the positions of the militant groups after the terrorists retreated from their strongholds in Jabal al-Sayyid," the sources said.

    According to the sources, the recapture of Jabal al-Sayyid currently places the army in a very good position to monitoring the militants' movements in the al-Mreij region.


    The seizure of militants' depot in Latakia came a day after the Syrian troops launched an offensive against the militants based in the mountainous regions in northern areas of the coastal province, including those located along border with Turkey.

    On Friday, a spokesperson for the Syrian Army announced that the government troops, supported by Russian airstrikes, have managed to gain back more than 56 villages, towns and heights from the militant groups across Latakia in just 68 days.

    "The militant groups withdrew forces from over 56 strategic villages, towns and heights after the Syrian government forces launched their joint operation, enjoying the back-up of the Russian air fleet," the spokesperson said.

    The army touted the recapture of 56 strategic points as a "wonderful example of coordination and cooperation between the pro-government troops and the Russian Aerospace Force."

    Sources have, meanwhile, said that dozens of militants were killed and many more wounded after the Russian bombers targeted the militant groups' strongholds in the rural areas in Jabal al-Akrad and Jabal al-Turkmen regions in Latakia.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:44


    MoD page dedicated to Syrian operation in English: thumbsup

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  OminousSpudd on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:51

    NationalRus wrote:well fuck me i have been trashing putin since ever here because he was basically a liberal pussy who didnt had balls to do anything decisively for our national interest and geopolitcal position.
    so who is this guy since 2014? i would fucking vote for him now this geopolitcal pragmatic mastermind, fucking mastermind!

    he went to syria with my pretext that i posted back in 2013 lol1  shiiiiiit i would build him a statue in the middle of moscow now

    And that's the funny thing, so many of you see him as some sort of wishy washy politician... Like this hasn't been a plan all along, like he isn't considering every factor. So many instant gratification nationalists who want him to bloody well prance around like some 21st century Robin Hood, saving the world from the big bad robber men using dark space magic and mystical illusion skills to trick the USA into not nuking everyone.  Hasn't he proven himself a gazzilion times already? Yet you still treat him like he's a "traitor" or he's "selling Russia short." Merely 20 years ago no one would have even guessed Russia would be in it's current position, standing up to the entirety of the West and making them look like a bunch of pansies, crying, spoiled, school brats. Dunno if you've been watching the social network buzz surrounding Putin, but at the very least, people are calling him a real leader, at the most their saviour (hilarious, but I'm not kidding).

    Sure, call me a "Putinist" or "vatnik" or whatever, but the rate at which some people swing from "omgwtfbbqz Putin iz traitor" too "omgwtfbbqz Putin iz mah hero" makes me think they're bipolar.

    I'm not saying don't be critical of the government, by all means DO, our apathy in the West and our unquestioning trust in our government in "doing the right thing" is how we've ended up with complete nanny states, where we spend millions changing a bloody flag... But you've got to see a leader when you have one.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat 19 Dec 2015, 23:58


    Moscow's Assertive Stance Makes US Change Strategy - Think Tank

    Russia's assertive stance in settling the four-year Syrian civil war has left Washington with no choice but to negotiate, taking Moscow's interests into account, say analysts from US think tank Stratfor.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151220/1032032528/us-changes-strategy.html#ixzz3uoIx1IRJ







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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  max steel on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 06:43

    Israel striked Damascus suburb again. Kremlin's will to defend Syria sovereignty isn't as strong as their wish to avoid war w9th Israel. angry


    S-400 sleeping perhaps.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Zivo on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 06:54

    max steel wrote:Israel striked Damascus suburb again. Kremlin's will to defend Syria sovereignty isn't as strong as their wish to avoid war w9th Israel. angry


    S-400 sleeping perhaps.

    Israel likely attacked from outside Syrian airspace.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  max steel on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 06:59

    But can't S-400 track planes even outside syrian airspace. I guess it can because what i read during Israel-syria S-300 jamming incident that S-300 models can even track the israeli jets the moment they leave their airbase.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Zivo on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 07:05

    max steel wrote:But can't S-400 track planes even outside syrian airspace. I guess it can because what i read during Israel-syria S-300 jamming incident that S-300 models can even track the israeli jets the moment they leave their airbase.

    It has nothing to do with tracking, it's all politics.

    Hypothetically, if Russia shot down an Israeli aircraft, even if they were lining up for an attack, Russia would look like the aggressor. Israel just has to say their aircraft where practicing some maneuvers. Besides, it's up to Syria to defend their airspace, the S-400 is there to protect Russia's assets.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  JohnSnow on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 07:41

    max steel wrote:Israel striked Damascus suburb again. Kremlin's will to defend Syria sovereignty isn't as strong as their wish to avoid war w9th Israel. angry


    S-400 sleeping perhaps.

    S-400 is not there to protect Syrian air space from any and all invaders. Instead it is there to protect against threats to Russian forces deployed in Syria.
    Right now, S-400's cross-hair is pointed at Turkey, patiently waiting for a violation. However, Israel is another matter. They probably gave Russians a heads up to avoid any "accidents", and they pose no threat to Russian forces.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Vann7 on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 08:13

    Zivo wrote:
    max steel wrote:But can't S-400 track planes even outside syrian airspace. I guess it can because what i read during Israel-syria S-300 jamming incident that S-300 models can even track the israeli jets the moment they leave their airbase.

    It has nothing to do with tracking, it's all politics.

    Hypothetically, if Russia shot down an Israeli aircraft, even if they were lining up for an attack, Russia would look like the aggressor. Israel just has to say their aircraft where practicing some maneuvers. Besides, it's up to Syria to defend their airspace, the S-400 is there to protect Russia's assets.

    exactly Russia cannot attack any plane outside Syria..
    because will have no arguments to justify its shutdown.. however if Israel continues bombing Damascus killing people and Russia give an ultimatum in public to israel things change.
    For now Israel is taking advantage of Syria and Russia being busy fighting terrorist.
    The distance from Lebanon airspace to the bombed site is like 30km. and the distance of S-400 to the bombed place is like 200km. So it will have to be Syria who defend its airspace in the south. Russia can only pressure Israel for now to stop. Western media will for sure to damage Russian military sales or humilitate Russian air defenses will claim the Russian missiles were
    "jammed". But in a real war Israel will not know it have an S-300 missile on the ass of a military plane until it explode. S-300s can operate with its radars turned off to the last minute and not allow Israelis to jam it or even try. IF anyone notice how Israel bomb Syria they do it , in a non frequent way. One per week or two weeks. Lets see if they can pull another bombing tomorrow with Syrian air defenses expecting an attack from lebanon. again.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 08:40

    Guys,

    This seems to be like the last Israeli attack on Damascus, which hadn't happened. Remember.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 09:06

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Guys,

    This seems to be like the last Israeli attack on Damascus, which hadn't happened. Remember.

    See, for example, according to RT

    RT wrote:There are conflicting reports regarding the course of events. Some say that there was an Israeli airstrike on the residential area, while other describe the incident as terrorist mortar shelling.

    Reuters initially cited Syrian state TV as saying that several people had been injured, after rockets launched by “terrorist groups” hit a building in the Jaramana district of Damascus.

    In general, random copy-and-pasts from Twitter isn't what this forum needs.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Regular on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 10:14

    I think Israel won't do anything in Syria without Russian green light.
    Russian jets actually entered Israel territory few times, but there was no scandal about it. Israel defence minister Moshe Yaalon even stressed that there was there was no intention to shoot Russian planes down as Russian jets are not attacking Israel.
    Russian and Israel are sharing intel. If Israel is hitting targets in Syria I bet Russia knows who is the target.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Solncepek on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 11:08

    The target was Самир Аль-Quntar - well-known "Hezballah" commander...
    I second Regular, that in this case Israel has warned russian army about the forthcoming strike and probably the target ot the attack.
    BTW there have been 4 rockets, fired from within israel's airspace, so the hit is "legitimate"...

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    Hezbollah: Samir Kuntar Killed in Israeli Airstrike on Damascus
    Source: Haaretz

    According to reports, between six and eight people were killed in the strike, among them also Hezbollah field commanders.

    Hezbollah announced on Sunday morning that one of its top officials, Samir Kuntar, was killed in an Israeli airstrike on a Damascus suburb.

    In the statement, the group said the "Zionist enemy's planes" struck a building in Jaramana, a district of Damascus, around 10:15 P.M. on Saturday, killing Kuntar and several Syrian civilians

    According to reports, between six and eight people were killed in the strike, among them also Hezbollah field commanders.

    Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.692786
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 11:32

    Placing smallpox in their water supplies is the right way to deal with the Jewish rats.
    You don't need an excuse to exterminate them, Hitler was right.

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    Post  short_fuze on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 12:20

    Solncepek wrote:The target was Самир Аль-Quntar - well-known "Hezballah" commander...
    I second Regular, that in this case Israel has warned russian army about the forthcoming strike and probably the target ot the attack.
    BTW there have been 4 rockets, fired from within israel's airspace, so the hit is "legitimate"...

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    Hezbollah: Samir Kuntar Killed in Israeli Airstrike on Damascus
    Source: Haaretz

    According to reports, between six and eight people were killed in the strike, among them also Hezbollah field commanders.

    Hezbollah announced on Sunday morning that one of its top officials, Samir Kuntar, was killed in an Israeli airstrike on a Damascus suburb.

    In the statement, the group said the "Zionist enemy's planes" struck a building in Jaramana, a district of Damascus, around 10:15 P.M. on Saturday, killing Kuntar and several Syrian civilians

    According to reports, between six and eight people were killed in the strike, among them also Hezbollah field commanders.

    Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.692786

    From an earlier RT report:

    Israel News Flash: "BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports of an IAF airstrike in Damascus suburb killing Palestinian terrorist, Samir Quntar"

    Jewish feed: "BREAKING: Syria state TV confirms 2 killed is Jaramana explosion near Damascus, Some claim it was an IAF strike"

    "Since his 2008 release, Israeli media on multiple occasions claimed that Kuntar had been killed, including during Israeli strikes on Syria. However, none of the reports had been confirmed."

    Then we have the Israeli Construction and Housing Minister Yoav Gallant welcoming the alleged death of the Lebanese militant leader.

    "It is good that people like Samir Qantar will not be part of our world," he told Israel Radio.

    He refused to confirm or deny Israeli involvement in the affair, however.

    https://www.rt.com/news/326564-damascus-explosion-jaramana-reports/

    Israelis being shy about their capacities? I don't think so. They may be trying to take credit for a rocket attack conducted by their ISIS buddies. This guy probably has been killed by Israel as many times as the al Qaeda No. 1 was killed by the Americans. The innocent civilians however were actually killed by whoever attacked the building.

    I am also suspicious of claims that Russia would quietly accept a 'heads up' from anyone targetting the leader of one of the most effective forces taking on ISIS, particularly if the building was occupied by innocent civilians.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #6

    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 12:27

    short_fuze wrote:
    From an earlier RT report:

    Israel News Flash: "BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports of an IAF airstrike in Damascus suburb killing Palestinian terrorist, Samir Quntar"

    Jewish feed: "BREAKING: Syria state TV confirms 2 killed is Jaramana explosion near Damascus, Some claim it was an IAF strike"

    "Since his 2008 release, Israeli media on multiple occasions claimed that Kuntar had been killed, including during Israeli strikes on Syria. However, none of the reports had been confirmed."

    Then we have the Israeli Construction and Housing Minister Yoav Gallant welcoming the alleged death of the Lebanese militant leader.

    "It is good that people like Samir Qantar will not be part of our world," he told Israel Radio.

    He refused to confirm or deny Israeli involvement in the affair, however.

    https://www.rt.com/news/326564-damascus-explosion-jaramana-reports/

    Israelis being shy about their capacities? I don't think so. They may be trying to take credit for a rocket attack conducted by their ISIS buddies. This guy probably has been killed by Israel as many times as the al Qaeda No. 1 was killed by the Americans. The innocent civilians however were actually killed by whoever attacked the building.

    I am also suspicious of claims that Russia would quietly accept a 'heads up' from anyone targetting the leader of one of the most effective forces taking on ISIS, particularly if the building was occupied by innocent civilians.

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