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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:06 pm

    max steel wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote: russia

    "Brookings Institution: None of NATO’s Members Could Match Russia in the Sky"

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20151026/1029121035/nato-planes-cannot-match-russian-planes-syria.html#ixzz3pgAuBMGC

    Even US ?

    According to them no, read the article....
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:11 pm


    Russian Warplanes Hit 285 ISIL and Nusra Front Targets in 3 Days

    Russian bombers have destroyed 285 ISIL and Nusra Front targets over the past three days in Syria's provinces of Hama, Idlib, Latakia, Damascus, Aleppo, Deir ez-Zor, the Russian Defense Ministry said Monday.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151026/1029124877/russian-warplanes-hit-285-terrorist-targets.html

    The Russian Aerospace Forces have conducted 164 sorties in Syria in three days, the Russian Defense Ministry's spokesman added.

    Russian Su-25 attack aircraft destroyed 3 ISIL strongholds in the Syrian province of Latakia, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

    "Su-25 attack airctaft destroyed three ISIL terrorists' strongholds, equipped with dug-out shelters, pillboxes and mortar positions."

    Russian jets also destroyed a major Nusra Front ammunition depot in the Damascus province, he said.

    Russian combat aircraft hit and destroyed an ISIL base, equipped with anti-aircraft guns, mortars and large-caliber machine guns in the Aleppo province, Konashenkov said.

    Also in Aleppo, Russian Su-34 bombers have destroyed an ISIL command center, which coordinated the jihadists' combat activities against the Syrian Armed Forces near the Kowaires airbase.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:14 pm


    "It looks like Russian warships may be shutting out Israel's Air Force access to Syria"

    http://www.businessinsider.com/it-looks-like-russian-warships-may-be-shutting-out-israels-air-force-access-to-syria-2015-10


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  Vann7 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:34 pm

    max steel wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote: russia

    "Brookings Institution: None of NATO’s Members Could Match Russia in the Sky"

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20151026/1029121035/nato-planes-cannot-match-russian-planes-syria.html#ixzz3pgAuBMGC

    Even US ?

    Said almost no one..
    US can do it ,but without the advanced EW Russia have and the very precise cruise missiles
    Russia have. I never remember any time that electronic warfare was used at the same level
    that Russia have shown.. like an area of denial bubble. or that even their most older soviet planes and helicopters can become immune to any NATO defense.  Shocked

    This is based on the claims by some credible journalist reporting from Syria , that Russia jammed US patriot missiles in Turkey and why they removed them.

    If Russia EW works half as good as they advertise ,its Airforce but also Navy will dominate in any battle field including the US.. in a fair fight..with similar number of warships and planes and using conventional weapons that is. Basically if Russia EW is half as good they claim, in a fair duel ,Russia will dominate with ease against US ,in the best case and in the worse case a stalemate and none of the missiles fired from any side will reach their targets. Electronic warfare but also decoys are really OP. Future modern battles will probably kill beyond visual range combat weapons and armies forced to get close to fight and rely less in electronics and precision long range weapons. IT remain to be seen however how strong are Russian cruise missiles in beyond visual range or any missiles in a NATO setup environment with heavy jamming .

    For me the most impressive thing however ,even more than cruise missiles ,is the claim , that Russia developed EW hardware that can be mounted in any Russian helicopter ,including soviets ones and defeat any missile fired at it ,including terrorist man pads.If that happens to be true.. it will dramatically change the way battles are fought. it will make Air force too powerful and in the pin down any enemy advance.. and force them to hide underground. and not in the open.

    Yet Russia needs to be really careful ,primitive weapons will still be lethal., Those helicopters for example flying low can be exposed to Terrorist attack. a warehouse full of TNT could be setup to destroy low flying choppers. I really think is really bad idea flying so close to terrorist positions.. i will prefer Russia airforce keep at least 2km  distance from any building.
    Is really scary to watch those mi-24 flying at buildings altitude at range of any terrorist rocket grenades or anti air artillery.


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    Post  Militarov on Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:43 pm

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

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    FSA groups started moving their Headquarters and communication centers into caves to avoid the Russian airstrikes.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:10 pm

    Oh look, Ultron (FV) was wrong again: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151026/1029124877/russian-warplanes-hit-285-terrorist-targets.html

    Seems in last 3 days Russia hit a lot of targets as well as a fortified base.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:09 pm

    ult wrote:


    The top bomb is a pretty good example of hitting a tunnel complex.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:14 pm

    Militarov wrote:

    FSA groups started moving their Headquarters and communication centers into caves to avoid the Russian airstrikes.
    A bit of a problem with caves can be entombment if the entrances are hit. Not sure if the FSA can keep the locations secret once they are up and running.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  Militarov on Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:22 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    FSA groups started moving their Headquarters and communication centers into caves to avoid the Russian airstrikes.
    A bit of a problem with caves can be entombment if the entrances are hit. Not sure if the FSA can keep the locations secret once they are up and running.

    Caves in such regions are also mostly made out of fairly soft rocks, i wouldnt be inside during an airstrike to be honest with you, i was present when huge and i mean HUGE rock fell from roof in cave in Bosnia and Herzegovina, thanks God noone was even near that thing. And it was caused by drilling a 12mm hole by Makita for electricity cable. (probably it was last drop since in same region there was alot of artillery activity during 90s)
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  Godric on Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:23 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    max steel wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote: russia

    "Brookings Institution: None of NATO’s Members Could Match Russia in the Sky"

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20151026/1029121035/nato-planes-cannot-match-russian-planes-syria.html#ixzz3pgAuBMGC

    Even US ?

    Said almost no one..
    US can do it ,but without the advanced EW Russia have and the very precise cruise missiles
    Russia have. I never remember any time that electronic warfare was used at the same level
    that Russia have shown.. like an area of denial bubble. or that even their most older soviet planes and helicopters can become immune to any NATO defense.  Shocked

    This is based on the claims by some credible journalist reporting from Syria , that Russia jammed US patriot missiles in Turkey and why they removed them.

    If Russia EW works half as good as they advertise ,its Airforce but also Navy will dominate in any battle field including the US.. in a fair fight..with similar number of warships and planes and using conventional weapons that is. Basically if Russia EW is half as good they claim, in a fair duel ,Russia will dominate with ease against US ,in the best case and in the worse case a stalemate and none of the missiles fired from any side will reach their targets. Electronic warfare but also decoys are really OP. Future modern battles will probably kill beyond visual range combat weapons and armies forced to get close to fight and rely less in electronics and precision long range weapons. IT remain to be seen however how strong are Russian cruise missiles in beyond visual range or any missiles in a NATO setup environment with heavy jamming .

    For me the most impressive thing however ,even more than cruise missiles ,is the claim , that Russia developed EW hardware that can be mounted in any Russian helicopter ,including soviets ones and defeat any missile fired at it ,including terrorist man pads.If that happens to be true.. it will dramatically change the way battles are fought. it will make Air force too powerful and in the pin down any enemy advance.. and force them to hide underground. and not in the open.

    Yet Russia needs to be really careful ,primitive weapons will still be lethal., Those helicopters for example flying low can be exposed to Terrorist attack. a warehouse full of TNT could be setup to destroy low flying choppers. I really think is really bad idea flying so close to terrorist positions.. i will prefer Russia airforce keep at least 2km  distance from any building.
    Is really scary to watch those mi-24 flying at buildings altitude at range of any terrorist rocket grenades or anti air artillery.

    should give Russian airforce the advantage because their would be more dogfights and with thrust vectoring and the superior flight characteristics of Russian fighters they would hold the upper hand in any dogfight
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  Militarov on Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:25 pm

    "Russian Deputy FM Bogdanov: A delegation from the rebel Free Syrian Army has visited Moscow."

    Not sure about this source tho, sounds like BS but you never know.

    Source: http://www.naharnet.com
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  Solncepek on Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:45 pm

    The distance as the crow flies between Russia’s Syrian air base Al-Hmeineem near Latakia and its Iraqi host facility at Al Taqaddum Air base is 824 km (445 nautical miles). From the Latakia base to Israel, the distance is just 288 km or 155 nautical miles, a hop and a skip in aerial terms. Syria’s ruler Bashar Assad first let Moscow in with the use of a base where 30 fighter and bombing jets are now parked. Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi followed suit Saturday, Oct. 24 by granting the Russian Air force the use of a facility 74 km from Baghdad.

    Their presence in the two bases draws a strong arc of Russian aerial control at the heart of Middle East. By boosting its two extremities with state-of-the-art electronic warfare systems, Moscow has imposed a new reality whereby it will soon be almost impossible for any air or ground force, American or Israeli, to go into military action above or inside Syria or Iraq without prior coordination with the Russians.
    The bricks of Russian domination are now almost all in place.
    In the last week of September, two Ilyushin-20 (IL-20 Coot) super-surveillance planes stole into Syrian airspace, to provide a major upgrade for the Russian air fleet of Sukhoi-30 fighter jets, cargo planes and attack helicopters gathering for combat in Syria.
    This was first revealed by DEBKA Weekly’s military and intelligence sources on Oct. 2.
    The IL-20s, the Russian Air Force’s top-line intelligence-gathering aircraft, brought over from the Baltic Sea, have exceptional features as an intelligence platform. Their four turboprop engines enable it to stay airborne for over 12 hours, using its thermal and infrared sensors, antennas, still and video cameras, and side-looking airborne (SLAR) radar to collect a wide range of data from long distances, day or night, in almost any kind of weather.

    The Coot-20 collates the data gathered and transmits it to intelligence or operational command centers in Moscow or its Latakia air base by powerful jam-resistant communications systems, satellites and other methods.

    Aloft over Syria, the IL-20 can supply Russian forces and commanders with a complete, detailed picture of the situation on the ground. Its close proximity to Israel, moreover, enables this wonder plane to scoop up a wealth of data from across the border - not just on IDF military movements on the Golan, but also to eavesdrop on electronic activity and conversations in Jerusalem, Military Staff Headquarters in Tel Aviv, Air Force bases in southern Israel and even the nuclear complex in Dimona in the Negev.

    debkafile’s military sources add that an Il-20 Coot has been sighted in the last few days at the Iraqi Al Taqaddum Air base near Baghdad.
    Then, on Oct. 4, our sources reveal, another Russian super-weapon was brought to Syria by Russian cargo ships: Nine MT-LB armored personnel carriers fitted with the Borisoglebsk 2 electronic warfare systems, which are among the most sophisticated of their kind in the world.

    These APCs were secretly driven aboard tank carriers to Nabi Yunis, which is the highest peak of the Alawite Mountains along the coastal plain of northwest Syria, and stands 1,562 meters (5,125 feet) above sea level. To render the highly complicated Borisoglebsk 2 device system impermeable to attack, our electronic warfare experts describe it as fitted into the interior and walls of the nine APCS, along with receivers that can pick up transmissions on a wide range of frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum.

    From their mountain aerie, its antennas and powerful transmitters are designed to intercept and jam almost any radio signal carried by the electromagnetic waves in military or civilian use.

    Russian strategists posted this top-of-the-line system in Syria to enable the Russian air force to operate unhindered in Middle Eastern skies and, just as importantly, to neutralize US-led coalition special forces operating deep within Syrian territory, and block or disrupt the operations of rebel groups and Islamic State forces.

    The Borisoglebsk 2 system has only just started rolling off top secret Russian assembly lines. It took five years to plan and manufacture the system, which went into service for the first time at the beginning of this year on the Ukraine battlefield.
    From its vantage point in Syria, the Russian electronic warfare system could seriously impair the performance of Israeli intelligence and communication networks arrayed across the Golan and along the northern border in the upper and western Galilee. It could run interference against the IDF’s use of unmanned aerial vehicles (unless they were autonomous), the field operations of Israeli Special Operations forces and air and naval networks, which depend on communications networks in their defense of the country’s northern borders.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

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    They say Russian Mi24Ps.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:27 pm

    Dilma Rousseff has lost all credibility, she's nothing more than a weak-minded bitch:

    "Partner of the Russian government in the BRICS, President Dilma Rousseff on Monday (October 19) criticized the Russian military intervention in Syria. Speaking in Stockholm with Swedish Prime Minister Stephen Leuven, Brazilian president expressed support for diplomatic negotiations between the "big powers" that would lead to the creation of a coalition for joint bombing terrorist group "Islamic State".

    The "PO". Sharpening their teeth on Russia


    Hey Dillweed Ruse-eff, Russia attempted to create a coalition against ISIS with U.S., but the U.S. bitched and whined, and blocked all coordination...and you would know that if your head wasn't stuck so far up your ass, and you weren't so easily strong-armed by The Empire of Chaos, you limp-wristed twat!
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:33 pm

    Solncepek wrote:The distance as the crow flies between Russia’s Syrian air base Al-Hmeineem near Latakia and its Iraqi host facility at Al Taqaddum Air base is 824 km (445 nautical miles). From the Latakia base to Israel, the distance is just 288 km or 155 nautical miles, a hop and a skip in aerial terms. Syria’s ruler Bashar Assad first let Moscow in with the use of a base where 30 fighter and bombing jets are now parked. Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi followed suit Saturday, Oct. 24 by granting the Russian Air force the use of a facility 74 km from Baghdad.

    Their presence in the two bases draws a strong arc of Russian aerial control at the heart of Middle East. By boosting its two extremities with state-of-the-art electronic warfare systems, Moscow has imposed a new reality whereby it will soon be almost impossible for any air or ground force, American or Israeli, to go into military action above or inside Syria or Iraq without prior coordination with the Russians.
    The bricks of Russian domination are now almost all in place.
    In the last week of September, two Ilyushin-20 (IL-20 Coot) super-surveillance planes stole into Syrian airspace, to provide a major upgrade for the Russian air fleet of Sukhoi-30 fighter jets, cargo planes and attack helicopters gathering for combat in Syria.
    This was first revealed by DEBKA Weekly’s military and intelligence sources on Oct. 2.
    The IL-20s, the Russian Air Force’s top-line intelligence-gathering aircraft, brought over from the Baltic Sea, have exceptional features as an intelligence platform. Their four turboprop engines enable it to stay airborne for over 12 hours, using its thermal and infrared sensors, antennas, still and video cameras, and side-looking airborne (SLAR) radar to collect a wide range of data from long distances, day or night, in almost any kind of weather.

    The Coot-20 collates the data gathered and transmits it to intelligence or operational command centers in Moscow or its Latakia air base by powerful jam-resistant communications systems, satellites and other methods.

    Aloft over Syria, the IL-20 can supply Russian forces and commanders with a complete, detailed picture of the situation on the ground. Its close proximity to Israel, moreover, enables this wonder plane to scoop up a wealth of data from across the border - not just on IDF military movements on the Golan, but also to eavesdrop on electronic activity and conversations in Jerusalem, Military Staff Headquarters in Tel Aviv, Air Force bases in southern Israel and even the nuclear complex in Dimona in the Negev.

    debkafile’s military sources add that an Il-20 Coot has been sighted in the last few days at the Iraqi Al Taqaddum Air base near Baghdad.
    Then, on Oct. 4, our sources reveal, another Russian super-weapon was brought to Syria by Russian cargo ships: Nine MT-LB armored personnel carriers fitted with the Borisoglebsk 2 electronic warfare systems, which are among the most sophisticated of their kind in the world.

    These APCs were secretly driven aboard tank carriers to Nabi Yunis, which is the highest peak of the Alawite Mountains along the coastal plain of northwest Syria, and stands 1,562 meters (5,125 feet) above sea level. To render the highly complicated Borisoglebsk 2 device system impermeable to attack, our electronic warfare experts describe it as fitted into the interior and walls of the nine APCS, along with receivers that can pick up transmissions on a wide range of frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum.

    From their mountain aerie, its antennas and powerful transmitters are designed to intercept and jam almost any radio signal carried by the electromagnetic waves in military or civilian use.

    Russian strategists posted this top-of-the-line system in Syria to enable the Russian air force to operate unhindered in Middle Eastern skies and, just as importantly, to neutralize US-led coalition special forces operating deep within Syrian territory, and block or disrupt the operations of rebel groups and Islamic State forces.

    The Borisoglebsk 2 system has only just started rolling off top secret Russian assembly lines. It took five years to plan and manufacture the system, which went into service for the first time at the beginning of this year on the Ukraine battlefield.
    From its vantage point in Syria, the Russian electronic warfare system could seriously impair the performance of Israeli intelligence and communication networks arrayed across the Golan and along the northern border in the upper and western Galilee. It could run interference against the IDF’s use of unmanned aerial vehicles (unless they were autonomous), the field operations of Israeli Special Operations forces and air and naval networks, which depend on communications networks in their defense of the country’s northern borders.
    FFS are you blind?

    Do you never read comments on your posts?

    What is the source of this????????????
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:39 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Dilma Rousseff has lost all credibility, she's nothing more than a weak-minded bitch:

    "Partner of the Russian government in the BRICS, President Dilma Rousseff on Monday (October 19) criticized the Russian military intervention in Syria. Speaking in Stockholm with Swedish Prime Minister Stephen Leuven, Brazilian president expressed support for diplomatic negotiations between the "big powers" that would lead to the creation of a coalition for joint bombing terrorist group "Islamic State".

    The "PO". Sharpening their teeth on Russia


    Hey Dillweed Ruse-eff, Russia attempted to create a coalition against ISIS with U.S., but the U.S. bitched and whined, and blocked all coordination...and you would know that if your head wasn't stuck so far up your ass, and you weren't so easily strong-armed by The Empire of Chaos, you limp-wristed twat!
    Why the anger? Brazil is up the financial creek without a paddle. Whatever we think, the US is still the biggest dog in the pack and Rousseff has to act in the best interests of Brazil, and they are not served by pulling that dog's tail.

    Russia won't mind, that's for sure, they understand the real politik going down here.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:52 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Dilma Rousseff has lost all credibility, she's nothing more than a weak-minded bitch:

    "Partner of the Russian government in the BRICS, President Dilma Rousseff on Monday (October 19) criticized the Russian military intervention in Syria. Speaking in Stockholm with Swedish Prime Minister Stephen Leuven, Brazilian president expressed support for diplomatic negotiations between the "big powers" that would lead to the creation of a coalition for joint bombing terrorist group "Islamic State".

    The "PO". Sharpening their teeth on Russia


    Hey Dillweed Ruse-eff, Russia attempted to create a coalition against ISIS with U.S., but the U.S. bitched and whined, and blocked all coordination...and you would know that if your head wasn't stuck so far up your ass, and you weren't so easily strong-armed by The Empire of Chaos, you limp-wristed twat!
    Why the anger? Brazil is up the financial creek without a paddle. Whatever we think, the US is still the biggest dog in the pack and Rousseff has to act in the best interests of Brazil, and they are not served by pulling that dog's tail.

    Russia won't mind, that's for sure, they understand the real politik going down here.

    Non-sense, instead of attacking Russia she could of avoided answering the question in such a provocative way. BTW this isn't the first time she found a way to disrespect the Russian military, I mean she turned down the invitation to attend the 70th Victory Day parade, even Mahmoud Abbas the president of the Palestinian National Authority managed to attend the parade (note: Dillweed's political situation is no way worse than president Abbas and his situation, not even close). You should really hear what our resident Brazilian 'Kyo' and what he has to say about Dillweed Ruse-seff, and her recent backstabbing.

    You can only act as vassal for so long until you own children are on the chopping block!
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:14 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Dilma Rousseff has lost all credibility, she's nothing more than a weak-minded bitch:

    "Partner of the Russian government in the BRICS, President Dilma Rousseff on Monday (October 19) criticized the Russian military intervention in Syria. Speaking in Stockholm with Swedish Prime Minister Stephen Leuven, Brazilian president expressed support for diplomatic negotiations between the "big powers" that would lead to the creation of a coalition for joint bombing terrorist group "Islamic State".

    The "PO". Sharpening their teeth on Russia


    Hey Dillweed Ruse-eff, Russia attempted to create a coalition against ISIS with U.S., but the U.S. bitched and whined, and blocked all coordination...and you would know that if your head wasn't stuck so far up your ass, and you weren't so easily strong-armed by The Empire of Chaos, you limp-wristed twat!
    Why the anger? Brazil is up the financial creek without a paddle. Whatever we think, the US is still the biggest dog in the pack and Rousseff has to act in the best interests of Brazil, and they are not served by pulling that dog's tail.

    Russia won't mind, that's for sure, they understand the real politik going down here.

    Non-sense, instead of attacking Russia she could of avoided answering the question in such a provocative way. BTW this isn't the first time she found a way to disrespect the Russian military, I mean she turned down the invitation to attend the 70th Victory Day parade, even Mahmoud Abbas the president of the Palestinian National Authority managed to attend the parade (note: Dillweed's political situation is no way worse than president Abbas and his situation, not even close). You should really hear what our resident Brazilian 'Kyo' and what he has to say about Dillweed Ruse-seff, and her recent backstabbing.

    You can only act as vassal for so long until you own children are on the chopping block!
    Whilst she may be a fool we have no idea if there are any pressures or instructions she may be under that lead her to do and say what she does. It is possible that she has, along with many of the leaders of other countries that might be regarded as vassals have, how should I say it delicately, funding or other skeletons in their closets that their electorates might not understand or be sympathetic with. Many in her position do not seem to be comfortable or relaxed in themselves.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  max steel on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:24 pm

    I can understand why Dilma suddenly changed her tone , her country is struggling economically and one has to please current wsj overlords.


    Reuters  :

    Before Syria, Russia struggled to land air strikes on target Mad

    WaPo :

    How Russia fired missiles at Syria from 1,000 miles away


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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:30 pm

    VKS has started targeting Daesh supply convoys at night mainly in the Deir Ez-Zor - Raqqa area

    Air group of VKS has taken under observation main roads in areas adjacent to the zone of fighting in Syria, for timely suppression of supply channels of terrorists, told the official representative of the Russian Defence Ministry, Major-General Igor Konashenkov.

    "We fix, especially at night, movement of mobile caravans, supplying militants from eastern and central provinces of Syria with arms and ammunition" - Konashenkov said, noting that it is primarily the province of Deir ez-Zor and Raqqa.

    He said that in the valley of El Gab, Idlib province, was attacked an automobile column of insurgents.

    "As a result of the impact of the Su-25 attack planes destroyed three trucks, tanker and two escort vehicles. The nature of the ensuing detonation confirmed that trucks carried artillery ammunition," - said the general.

    He noted that in the area of ​​the village in the province of Homs Tamdur Su-25 struck a convoy of fighters. "As a result of direct hits destroyed three jeeps with heavy machine guns and two trucks, which transported the terrorists ammunition", - concluded the general.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151026/1308449263.html
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    Post  max steel on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:42 pm

    Grand Mufti of Syria: 800,000 refugees returned after start of Russian air strikes
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #3

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:45 pm

    max steel wrote:Grand Mufti of Syria: 800,000 refugees returned after start of Russian air strikes

    This can either be beneficial or a real problem. Depends on these type of "refugees". If they are supporters of terrorism, then they will be a problem. If pro Assad, then it would be a great way to help the economy and possibly security.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:49 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:VKS has started targeting Daesh supply convoys at night mainly in the Deir Ez-Zor - Raqqa area

    Air group of VKS has taken under observation main roads in areas adjacent to the zone of fighting in Syria, for timely suppression of supply channels of terrorists, told the official representative of the Russian Defence Ministry, Major-General Igor Konashenkov.

    "We fix, especially at night, movement of mobile caravans, supplying militants from eastern and central provinces of Syria with arms and ammunition" - Konashenkov said, noting that it is primarily the province of Deir ez-Zor and Raqqa.

    He said that in the valley of El Gab, Idlib province, was attacked an automobile column of insurgents.

    "As a result of the impact of the Su-25 attack planes destroyed three trucks, tanker and two escort vehicles. The nature of the ensuing detonation confirmed that trucks carried artillery ammunition," - said the general.

    He noted that in the area of ​​the village in the province of Homs Tamdur Su-25 struck a convoy of fighters. "As a result of direct hits destroyed three jeeps with heavy machine guns and two trucks, which transported the terrorists ammunition", - concluded the general.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151026/1308449263.html

    Seems that I might have got it spot on with my forecast last night. As this fight goes on it will be increasingly concentrated in those areas where there happened to be large supply dumps of all types that are shielded from air attack by civilians, that is in towns and cities. Expect the Syrian Government to move maddeningly slowly in many areas, making the forces ranged against it use up their increasingly scarce supplies as winter moves in. The Russians won't be in a hurry either, they have already harvested the political and military Kudos, slowly slowly catchy monkey. This will be another war decided by logistics and, much to their frustration, there will be very little forces outside Syria can do about it.

    According to various information sources, terrorists are lacking food and water as result of the recent military operation, which destroyed most of their supplies. The airstrikes affected basic food supply chains of the fighters, ammunition and medical supplies, RIA Novosti reported, citing representative of Syria’s military intelligence.

    According to him, militants are experiencing serious difficulties with food and drinking water. In some terrorist units, the food will run out in less than a week, the source said. He quoted imprisoned terrorists who reported that a "critical" situation for ISIL "has evolved with the medicines necessary to treat the wounded and injured fighters."

    "The shortage of medicines and medical supplies forced the militants to leave the wounded to the care of the local people. Moreover, in order to hide from the Russian aviation, fighters had to get rid of large trucks with material supplies, which slowed down the retreat of the forces," he added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151026/1029140641/russian-airstrikes-disrupt-isil-supply-chains.html#ixzz3pi9WKU11



    LATAKIA, October 26. /TASS/. Successful pinpoint airstrikes delivered by the Sukhoi Su-24M bombers of Russia’s Aerospace Forces have cut off the Islamic State (IS) militants from the last source of supply and force the IS field commanders to move their troops out of the Syrian province of Aleppo in the coming days, Chief of the General Staff of the Syrian army Ali Abdullah Ayyoub said on Monday. According to him, radio communications intercept data collected in Syria’s five provinces from Latakia to Deir ez-Zor suggest that there is confusion within the ranks of the IS warlords. The generalised reconnaissance data confirm the correctness of determining the coordinates for Russian airstrikes and accuracy of the pinpoint strikes delivered by the Russian aircraft.

    "The most common phrase used by the IS terrorists during the [Russian] air group’s raids, is "damarati-l mahazin," which means in Arabic "depots destroyed," said the Chief of the General Staff of the Syrian army. "The word "kasfun," meaning "they are bombing" is used like a call sign in the militants’ radio communications, which more than thirty times is replaced by the "damarati-l mahazini" phrase," he said. Ali Abdullah Ayyoub said that radio intercepts have confirmed that the militants are experiencing acute shortage of ammunition for small arms and artillery. Some field commanders during radio communications have demanded from their leadership to urgently replenish the ammunition supplies.

    "The "nafidati-l zahair" ("ammunition ended") phase has been pronounced more than 20 times in [the militants’] radio exchanges over the past 24 hours from the northern bank of the Euphrates River to the Mediterranean coast," he said.

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