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    Post  Aristide on Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:46 pm

    Well we all have to earn money.

    I earn money as fitness coach and influence on instagram. I have clients in my own town which i help to reach their fitness goals and i also make online tutorials and individual
    fitness programs. I make advertising for fitness products and participare in fitness videos and commercials.

    Thats the work i do and i love my job. I can do what makes me happy and can have a good life with it.

    I have respect for people who do their jobs. I´m my own boss and can decide about my daily routine. I think i could not work in a job where a boss tells me what to do.

    When we were on a ship, we had a tour down in engine room and also the laundry. In the laundry it was loud, hot and hard to breath. I have much respect for people who work down there.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:22 am

    I have much respect for people who work down there.

    But that is the point... you don't have any respect for anyone... you called them inferior on many occasions.

    You have said a lot of things and now that the majority disapprove you are trying to backtrack... I have even less respect for you now.
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    Post  Aristide on Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:18 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I have much respect for people who work down there.

    But that is the point... you don't have any respect for anyone... you called them inferior on many occasions.

    You have said a lot of things and now that the majority disapprove you are trying to backtrack... I have even less respect for you now.

    I dont backtrack. I say what i think.

    Its a simple fact that all humans are individuals and different. I would definitly not be happy in a communist tyranny and do evrything i could to either get out or resistance. I live in a society that gives opportunity. A commjnist system has no opportunity. It reduces humans to mere cattle status where nothing can be reached for the individual.

    Beside that, its a good feeling to fight communists, it feels just great to let their sick dogma fail.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:00 am

    But isn't that the situation you love... you being priviledged and French and others being workers in their own little pieces of France... there to serve you.

    Do you not realise that for most people being there to serve the few that communism or socialism appeals because it improves their situation from slave to menial cog in a greater machine.

    Communist systems still need managers and ideas people, it just changes the focus from wealth to power...

    Amusing that you have said you would not bother fighting the German Nazis during WWII, but that somehow communism is worse and would motivate you to get off your lazy social ass and risk your life to fight them.

    Have you not asked yourself why that is?

    I mean you are not interested in freedom and rights for the peasants that bring you drinks on your holidays, so we can dismiss you doing it because it is the right and moral thing to do.

    You have been programmed very well... by people who made their fortunes in the current political structures and want to keep their fortunes even though they have rather more money than they could sensibly ever spend themselves, but their fear is that instead of a few having way too much and a majority having enough most of the time and a few with not enough... ie democracy and freedom and all that shit that America talked about when it actually meant what it was talking about... but the problem is that it is not self regulating and needs rules to stop all the wealth going to a few and everyone else not having enough... as depicted in Zombie movies where the majority don't have anything left to lose and start eating the rich and the others who have done well... it was no mistake the original movie took place in a shopping mall... the centre of American consumerism mantra.

    Communism is about the distribution of wealth and work in a way that everyone can survive at a level of comfort... people don't go hungry and everyone gets a job and a house... and the abuse of capitalism and democracy is making it look more and more appealing to more and more people who have no obvious future in the current structure where the easiest way to earn money is with money... you earn more money by using money to create more money than actually working for a living...

    The greedy few are breaking democracy... destroying it from the inside, but I am sure they will be glad to hear you will fight to keep those 1%ers rich and earning more and more money...
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:46 am

    GarryB wrote:But isn't that the situation you love... you being priviledged and French and others being workers in their own little pieces of France... there to serve you.

    Do you not realise that for most people being there to serve the few that communism or socialism appeals because it improves their situation from slave to menial cog in a greater machine.

    Communist systems still need managers and ideas people, it just changes the focus from wealth to power...

    Amusing that you have said you would not bother fighting the German Nazis during WWII, but that somehow communism is worse and would motivate you to get off your lazy social ass and risk your life to fight them.

    Have you not asked yourself why that is?

    I mean you are not interested in freedom and rights for the peasants that bring you drinks on your holidays, so we can dismiss you doing it because it is the right and moral thing to do.

    You have been programmed very well... by people who made their fortunes in the current political structures and want to keep their fortunes even though they have rather more money than they could sensibly ever spend themselves, but their fear is that instead of a few having way too much and a majority having enough most of the time and a few with not enough... ie democracy and freedom and all that shit that America talked about when it actually meant what it was talking about... but the problem is that it is not self regulating and needs rules to stop all the wealth going to a few and everyone else not having enough... as depicted in Zombie movies where the majority don't have anything left to lose and start eating the rich and the others who have done well... it was no mistake the original movie took place in a shopping mall... the centre of American consumerism mantra.

    Communism is about the distribution of wealth and work in a way that everyone can survive at a level of comfort... people don't go hungry and everyone gets a job and a house... and the abuse of capitalism and democracy is making it look more and more appealing to more and more people who have no obvious future in the current structure where the easiest way to earn money is with money... you earn more money by using money to create more money than actually working for a living...

    The greedy few are breaking democracy... destroying it from the inside, but I am sure they will be glad to hear you will fight to keep those 1%ers rich and earning more and more money...

    No communism is about downfall. Facism and communism are two sides of the same coin.

    Ever wondered why the smartest minds and most creative people run away from such regimes?

    Evry progress can only live in competition. Communism means stagnation and regression. You think an Elon Musk could thrieve in a communist regime? The USSR existed in a twilight zone. It only progressed as long it could compete with the west. But was deeply rotten inside.

    Art, beauty and style are the first things that die in any communist regime. Then follow creativity and intellect.

    The people vote with their feet Gary.

    In Germany it was not the west Germans who run by the millions into the "worker paradise" of east germany. East Germany had to build a wall to keep their own people in. And even that was about to fail, when the people ripped the wall down.

    You know France was against german reunion? We saw a possible enemy rise again. Our then president Mitterand conspired with Thatcher to stop the german reunion. But he realized thats impossible. The east german people demanded to crush communism. They fled by the millions out of the "worker paradise". So France agreed to the reunion.

    I will never accept any form of communism in France and i would with great joy join forces to destroy such a regime. And because of that, communism will always fail. There are many millions like me. And any system based on communism always massive sabotage from inside.



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    Post  Regular on Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:28 pm

    I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:23 pm

    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.
    not a bad idea, the problem is the large part of the population in EU states that have been brainwashed, and now even by law you're not allowed to protect more the natives compared to immigrants.

    Also the EU forced integration is excessive. There are entire political parties that want to throw in the bin all of the national histories and substitute the national ideas, cultures and values with a blend of pseudotolerant multi culti, genderfree, borderfree new value, of course replacing all of our national languages with English and relegating them to a sort of second rate dialect.

    Many new-left parties want to appear good, or better and more tolerant than the others, destroying in the process everything built until now in our countries. They are a sort of western version of Gorbachev, that I still do not understand if he was just a traitor or a pathological person that was ready to destroy the future of all the nations in USSR just to be acclaimed as an hero in the west, as when he visited Italy and immensely enjoyed being "loved" from the crowds...
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:29 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.
    not a bad idea, the problem is the large part of the population in EU states that have been brainwashed, and now even by law you're not allowed to protect more the natives compared to immigrants.

    Also the EU forced integration is excessive. There are entire political parties that want to throw in the bin all of the national histories and substitute the national ideas, cultures and values with a blend of pseudotolerant multi culti, genderfree, borderfree new value, of course replacing all of our national languages with English and relegating them to a sort of second rate dialect.

    Many new-left parties want to appear good, or better and more tolerant than the others, destroying in the process everything built until now in our countries. They are a sort of western version of Gorbachev, that I still do not understand if he was just a traitor or a pathological person that was ready to destroy the future of all the nations in USSR just to be acclaimed as an hero in the west, as when he visited Italy and immensely enjoyed being "loved" from the crowds...

    You ignore the massive rise of far right in the EU and that the left is more and more marginalized.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:14 am

    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.



    Lots of people miss the Communist period in Poland, but these are predominantly people who lived during that time, and they are fewer and fewer in number.

    On the other hand, those who never lived under Communism, or were extremely young at that time - or the young and dumb generation - are often the most anti-Communist. But there is lots of anti-Communist brain-washing in Poland.


    You tell me who is more correct? People who lived under Communism clearly know better than those who did not.


    Many people in Poland say that the Communist-era generation is being condemned to a quick extinction, because they are very inconvenient witnesses.

    Terrible health care, very high suicide rate, extreme poverty, bad food quality. Yes, the inconvenient witnesses are being eliminated.



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    Post  Regular on Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:32 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.



    Lots of people miss the Communist period in Poland, but these are predominantly people who lived during that time, and they are fewer and fewer in number.

    On the other hand, those who never lived under Communism, or were extremely young at that time - or the young and dumb generation - are often the most anti-Communist. But there is lots of anti-Communist brain-washing in Poland.  


    You tell me who is more correct? People who lived under Communism clearly know better than those who did not.


    Many people in Poland say that the Communist-era generation is being condemned to a quick extinction, because they are very inconvenient witnesses.

    Terrible health care, very high suicide rate, extreme poverty, bad food quality. Yes, the inconvenient witnesses are being eliminated.




    Hahaha, Poland is not that bad!
    It's much much better than Romania, Serbia, Slovakia and it's pretty much most stable Eastern European country.
    You have shit wages, reliance on EU and US and Ukrainian immigrants, but it's much much worse for other countries.

    I remember when poles used to come to Lithuania with their Polski fiats and buy snaige fridges and put it on their roofs.. fridges were bigger than their cars. And now Lithuanians go to Poland to shop and buy food, LG electronics and clothing.
    Belarussians now have it worse as well.

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