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    Post  southpark on Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:17 pm

    LMFS wrote:And again another PAK-FA thread where talk is more about F-35 Rolling Eyes

    I will accept blame for my contribution to off topic but F-35 was compared in a way that did not make sense to me as if battles are fought without tactics and strategy. This is the last post as far as that topic goes from my side. Plus kinda shitty weather and plenty of home time today to comment.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:33 am

    Problems will be solved, it is more operational now. You talk like US never built planes or had problems....no practical significance to your comment. Yes, the whole thing could have been handed differently but you seem to think like it is put together with plastic. As I said, Russia has nothing to fear with any of the West's stuff because they are all failures as per you...

    The point you seem to enjoy ignoring is that the problems are not being fixed, problems are denied... it is a super plane and they just need to keep making them and they will win... no discussion about making a plane programme too big to fail and the consequences where it is so big you can't even criticise it or question it at all... otherwise there will be tantrums and someone is going home...

    huh...you think all engineers and mangers in LM are stupid....some of you are equally arrogant as some of our idiots?

    Not Stupid... criminally incompetent... clearly when the engineers are saying we might be able to do that, their managers are telling the customer they definitely can do that... it is just going to take a little more time and money...

    Practical compromises are always made as long as they do not impact core mission parameters....it is like I am talking to a kid and no other country makes compromises I guess(rolling eyes).

    They signed off on building the damn thing... they must have tested parts to make sure they work... that freaken oxygen system is suffocating US pilots in three different aircraft types.... F-22, F-18, and F-35... how is that not fixed yet?

    Oxygen systems for air crew are basic important stuff... clearly they are trying to be too damn fancy... it is probably a software problem... are they going to blame Russian hackers?

    .PAKFA is 5th gen but still no 5th gen engine but I guess we all can trust that the promised engine is what they say it is without waiting for evidence....no need to accumulate flying hours but the Russians are fucking unicorns...

    Now comes the shit... with the current engine the PAK FA can supercruise... the F-35 cannot. If the PAK FA with its current engine is not 5th gen then the F-35 is not either...

    Who said there are no problems, it is the idea that they wont be resolved over time is kinda stupid....it is software heavy which means it is going to have heavy bugs but just like most successful platforms if it has solid design objectives then problems will be resolved albeit at cost..

    What solid design objectives?

    It is a strike plane with AAMs... if it is not stealthy enough to operate near an S-400 system then it is not stealthy enough to get the job done... it might as well be an F-16, which is not stealthy but is faster, more manouverable, better armed and has better range and is MUCH MUCH cheaper to buy and MUCH MUCH cheaper to operate.

    They might if they see a critical need....we have printing press remember?

    Yeah, that is not going to keep working forever...

    Only two reasonable outcomes....either the platform will stabilize and becomes economical overtime or it turned out to be disaster but only time will till....

    Hahahahaha... you mean they will reduce the purchase price and ramp up the spares and supports contract prices to recover the money and make even more profit...

    DC or Pentagon probably bought into that crap and profited...I doubt if the entire platform is designed to be inferior....companies do not go for reputation loss like that and yes even the big ones as it is their cash cow.

    Hehehehe... the US didn't take Apaches in to Kosovo because they would have been massacred... US MIC does not need to worry about reputation because the US never fights fair and if it looks like they will get their asses handed to them they change the rules... like in Desert Storm... don't want Iraqi T-72s shooting up Abrams tanks with their training ammo... only fight at night after pounding them with air power and smashing up any comms they might have had...

    And again another PAK-FA thread where talk is more about F-35

    Will weed the garden now...

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:14 pm

    Too long shit and same old circle jerking....did not see a single view of reality in your comments other than a feminist like rant.

    Yeah, I understand too much common sense in one post can be confusing and upsetting for someone used to the crap you normally ingest.

    West accusing Russia is nothing new, it has been going on forever.

    The fact that it does not work does not seem to matter to them... it is why Russia needs to turn away from Europe and find its own way... set its own goals find its own trade partners and develop itself and its new allies.

    They never acknowledged it as a equal power and if it causes you anxiety then take a xanax and calm down.

    Couldn't care less what the west says... it has no credibility in my eyes... and taking pills is an American thing too... not for me thanks.

    He was merely buying time to prepare for a fight one day in the future and the Ukraine fiasco made the gloves come off on both sides and with all sorts of sanctions and economic war, he has nothing to lose to formulate a fully independent course.

    The Ukraine situation was created by the US, and if that wasn't good enough they would have cooked up something else so they could do it anyway.

    I think it is funny because it is the west pushing Russia away... it is not often a drug peddler refuses to sell to someone in case they become a junkie... the thing is that they thought they were already hooked and when they cut them off there was a little pain but not nearly as much as the drug dealer thought their would be and they are not desperate for another hit like they thought they would be, so they are cutting them off from Asprin now... and apart from getting all their dealer friends to black ball them they can't do much more... how scared are they?

    All superpowers generally lose their relevance due to internal factors than an external enemy.

    Those in power are trying to fight their way out of it by making Russia and China the enemy... most superpowers need external enemies for unity and strength and to commit awful crimes against humanity... look at what hitler did.

    You sound like someone that was never comfortable in solving an equation with more than two roots

    I don't see what my sex life has to do with this...

    be very suitable for you...forget about social ones as they are equally if not more complex. But I will give you this, you do your moderator job pretty admirably in general and also you fill the self centered and unobjective feminist role pretty well in this forum too.

    Yeah, we have a few arrogant cocky dicks here, but one more would be OK I suppose.

    BTW I'd give my left penis to be a feminist... but I would want them to spell it Femenist... just to put the men back in Woman where it belongs.... HAHAHAHA.

    Respond beyond 2 to 3 posts to you feels like I will be unnecessarily killing my gray matter and hence this is for me on this topic.

    Well it is totally off topic so it is going to the talking bollocks section anyway...

    this is the first one that I commented in my life and I am still debating if I should have joined or not. I try not to identify myself on the net more than necessary.

    It is OK Donald Trump, your secret is safe with us... BTW don't fuck America up too bad... they are a pain in the arse but I don't like to see real people suffer when their elite are such assholes so openly.

    Also he wears two hats, as an active poster and a moderator. Some intersection is human but if he does his job fairly then he can't get bothered based on post responses. Anyway I said he does his moderator job admirably, I will have no problem accepting his decision either way. I will respect it.

    Hahhahaha... if I chose to ban you you would have no option but to accept it... when you are banned you can't post here any more... not even private messages... and I normally don't bother reading other forums so it would be tricky for you to tell me how you feel... other than diverting that carrier group going to Venezuela to New Zealand instead, or pulling a Julian Assange on me or something... Smile

    Sorry Garry stay cool

    No worries mate... the french guy doens't bother me, why would this american?

    This is pure comedy gold right here.

    Borisov has either been hanging out with Trampoline Man too much or has been really hitting the cristal meth hard (in light of this statement probably both)

    He is basically right... the US wont sanction the sale of Russian engines to the US because they need them. McCain tried to have them banned several times ages ago but was told they could not replace them so banning them was not an option... and it still is not an option.

    Lol, whatever rocks his boat I guess. That is like saying entire Russian navy was dependent on Ukrainian engines...for Ukrainians air heads may be it is true certainly the Russians don't give a fuck.

    No, that is the other way around... the Ukraine refusing to supply ship engines that Russia needed would be Russia refusing to sell rocket engines to the US, and that is not what he is talking about...

    Anyway, even if the US did stop buying Russian engines, I am sure they could sell them to China or North Korea or Iran or India... hell there would be quite a few countries that would happily buy them if they got an offer.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:24 pm

    We all know that the Su-57 will never be 5th gen because it as protruding rivets and circular thrust vectoring nozzles. Who needs
    jet fighter functionality when hiding from 1950s radars is the raison d'etre of jets in the minds of stealth fanbois.

    These fanbois need to grow a brain. Full focus on stealth requires a drone that has the shape of the one recently demonstrated
    by Sukhoi. Even in that case we are dealing with a surprise "attack" scenario and circular jet thrust ports do not matter since
    they do not face the radar net. No stealth aircraft can spend hours flying around willy nilly in enemy territory. It will be
    fully probed by radar installations in a rather short period of time. Stealth and surprise attack are joined at the hip and thus
    stealth is a transient utility feature.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:57 pm

    BTW stealth is not a bonus. It always comes with major trade offs in other areas.

    Su-57 is designed to be stealthy but not in a way that would impede its functionality. And it has an intial price tag of 1/6 of F-22.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:22 am

    Design is a trade off.

    Take the T-34. Very early on they developed a new 57mm high velocity gun for anti tank use and they put some on T-34s as a test case.

    In terms of anti armour performance it was excellent, but its HE shell was rather ordinary so they kept using the 76.2mm gun but with a longer barrel.

    When the Tiger and Panther were introduced they looked at the 57mm gun again, but went with the 85mm gun that had slightly less penetration at combat ranges but had a much more powerful and effective HE round so it was selected instead.

    This is a design choice... to be honest I am surprised they didn't build a Marder III type anti tank vehicle but with a 57mm gun... they could have built it in early 1942 on the basis of T-26 chassis that were not much use any more... all they needed was a good APHE shell for it to be very effective against armour or light fortifications... but ultimately its lack of HE power and soon its penetration performance was not good enough anyway so larger calibre 85mm and 100mm and ultimately 122mm guns were developed.

    On paper it was an excellent gun for its time, but the window where it would be useful was short... and hampered by the lack of production capacity in that calibre...

    The anti aircraft 57mm calibre was rather more successful and has been revived today with new ammo options.
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    Post  Aristide on Sun May 05, 2019 9:08 am

    GarryB wrote:As promised I have removed the xenophobic BS... was going to move it to the talking bollocks II thread but it was just easier to click delete instead.

    This thread is for discussing Venezuela.

    If you want to discuss another topic create another thread or save time and put it in the talking bollocks II thread straight away.

    Tell what exactly i said was xenophobic?

    I assume you are unable to say that. I never judge anyone by race.

    I judge cultures which happen to be primitive. Venezuela is one of them.

    Highly corrupted to the core, with a low IQ bus driver at the head of state.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 05, 2019 11:05 am

    Tell what exactly i said was xenophobic?

    I assume you are unable to say that. I never judge anyone by race.

    I judge cultures which happen to be primitive. Venezuela is one of them.

    Highly corrupted to the core, with a low IQ bus driver at the head of state.

    You don't need to single out any particular race to be racist, your core belief that you personally are superior to others because you travel a lot alone proves you are xenophobic.

    Not new... but a popular western belief that they are civilised and therefore others are not... others are barbarians in comparison... which is exactly the bullshit you spout.

    You are Xenophobic... in fact in the dictionary under the term xenophobic narcissist there is a picture of a white guy who works out sitting on a beach taking photos of himself so he can post it on the internet... I would say you have tiny dick syndrome but I am afraid you would post a picture of the tiny thing...

    You have done nothing except judge people based on their nationality or ethnic group.

    BTW how low can Maduros IQ be... he seems to still be in charge with the support of the majority of the population and the military... which is more than I could say for May or Micron or Merkell or Trump...

    If you want to discuss your holidays and racial superiority over us mere mortals by all means post a separate thread rather than pollute other threads with that self aggrandising nonsense.
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    Post  Aristide on Sun May 05, 2019 12:29 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Tell what exactly i said was xenophobic?

    I assume you are unable to say that. I never judge anyone by race.

    I judge cultures which happen to be primitive. Venezuela is one of them.

    Highly corrupted to the core, with a low IQ bus driver at the head of state.

    You don't need to single out any particular race to be racist, your core belief that you personally are superior to others because you travel a lot alone proves you are xenophobic.

    Not new... but a popular western belief that they are civilised and therefore others are not... others are barbarians in comparison... which is exactly the bullshit you spout.

    You are Xenophobic... in fact in the dictionary under the term xenophobic narcissist there is a picture of a white guy who works out sitting on a beach taking photos of himself so he can post it on the internet... I would say you have tiny dick syndrome but I am afraid you would post a picture of the tiny thing...

    You have done nothing except judge people based on their nationality or ethnic group.

    BTW how low can Maduros IQ be... he seems to still be in charge with the support of the majority of the population and the military... which is more than I could say for May or Micron or Merkell or Trump...

    If you want to discuss your holidays and racial superiority over us mere mortals by all means post a separate thread rather than pollute other threads with that self aggrandising nonsense.

    I find it unfortunate that you always fall on personal insults.

    Im in no way xenophobic. I love to travel and have fun in the world.

    I think very high of myself. Thats nothing bad and rather typical for french.

    Stay classy amigo.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 05, 2019 12:41 pm

    Amusing that you think being called Xenophobic is an insult, yet you have not shame is calling so many ethnic and cultural groups your inferior...

    Perhaps you should look up the actual definition of Xenophobia... Xeno means foreign or strange or different and phobia is a fear.

    The ancient Greeks tended to call non greeks barbarians in the belief that greek people and their culture and customs were superior... which led to the natural conclusion that the inferior barbarians should be enslaved to serve the needs of the superior greek people.

    Now tell me I am wrong again by suggesting that sounds exactly like what you seem to be saying.

    Of course the Romans were no better, and to this day most western white people think the same... they even divided the world into sections... first world second world and third world...

    I must update the wiki page and put your picture in for the entry on xenophobe.
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    Post  Aristide on Sun May 05, 2019 4:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:Amusing that you think being called Xenophobic is an insult, yet you have not shame is calling so many ethnic and cultural groups your inferior...

    Perhaps you should look up the actual definition of Xenophobia... Xeno means foreign or strange or different and phobia is a fear.

    The ancient Greeks tended to call non greeks barbarians in the belief that greek people and their culture and customs were superior... which led to the natural conclusion that the inferior barbarians should be enslaved to serve the needs of the superior greek people.

    Now tell me I am wrong again by suggesting that sounds exactly like what you seem to be saying.

    Of course the Romans were no better, and to this day most western white people think the same... they even divided the world into sections... first world second world and third world...

    I must update the wiki page and put your picture in for the entry on xenophobe.

    And there again you do your mistakes. Xenophobia means fear.

    I dont fear. I judge and see us as better.

    I also think i´m better than you and most others, that doesnt mean i fear you.

    There is no thing in the world that is 100% equal to each other. And when two things are not equal, one is naturally better than the other.

    France tends to have a great life standard, awesome food and very high standards in technology, cultre and art,.

    So if we compare France with others we can clearly we we are better in many ways.

    Not even you can denie that.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun May 05, 2019 4:34 pm

    U definitely have racial superiority complex, so u r a racist & white supremacist, wearing rosy glasses.
    France tends to have a great life standard, awesome food and very high standards in technology, culture and art,.
    From 5 years ago:
    China recorded 2,378,000 millionaires in 2013, compared to the U.S.’ 7,135,000 millionaires, according to Boston Consulting Group’s 2014 Global Wealth Report. China’s millionaire growth skyrocketed last year, shooting up 82% from 2012. To put that in perspective, the U.S. only grew 18% during the same period. ..
    China and the Asia-Pacific (excluding Japan) are driving an overall increase in global private financial wealth, despite the U.S. continuing to post high numbers. The region boasts $37 trillion, or 24%, of the world’s $152 trillion in private wealth.

    http://time.com/2852740/china-millionaires/

    Paris is #3:
    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/global-millionaire-population/

    France lost the most 'high-net-worth' individuals, with 12,000 millionaires leaving the country in 2016, 2,000 more than the year before, despite economic growth during the final quarter of the financial year. The exodus came as the country faced several terror attacks and a rise in right-wing politics, reports Market Watch.
    National Front candidate Marine Le Pen launched her presidential campaign with hard line promises on immigration and suggestions she would pull France out of the EU.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4269494/France-lost-millionaires-year.html

    When it comes to those with fortunes over $50 million, France stands behind the UK, Switzerland and Germany.
    In terms of average household wealth, France is also placed high in the global league table. It’s no surprise that Switzerland tops the rankings with its average household wealth of $513,000, ahead of Australia and Norway, France comes in seventh, with the average wealth standing at $296,000, putting it just behind Sweden. ..
    The total wealth of French households is also very sizeable. Although just 1.0% of the world’s adults reside in France, in terms of aggregate household wealth in current USD it ranks fourth among nations – behind China and just ahead of  Germany.
    While the news may be good for France’s most wealthy, Credit Suisse’s report on the country makes less pleasant reading for the population as a whole.
    Entitled “Uncertain prospects” the study’s report on France says: “Although the euro crisis has receded for the moment, France continues to struggle with high unemployment and low growth.
    “Despite these challenges, it remains seventh in the world in terms of household wealth per adult. ..
    France’s country report also states that there is a “greater financial inequality than seen in most other EU countries.”

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20131010/france-tops-europes-table-of-millionaires

    So, among the other Europeans, France isn't the best. U can't eat, wear, drive, & find shelter in ur fine art, culture, & nice beaches.
    The available Chinese food is even better than the French. There r more Chinese eateries & restaurants + those of other Asian cuisines influenced by it outside of their countries than the French 1s outside of France & her possessions.
    https://china.usc.edu/chinese-restaurants-around-world
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_restaurant

    Of the twenty-three thousand they called 'Oriental' restaurants in the USA, ninety percent were actually Chinese restaurants. The Chinese restaurants had annual sales of more than six billion US dollars; that is lots of cash spent on Chinese restaurant food consumption, both eat-in and take-out. Chinese food is one of the three most popular cuisines in the United States; the other two are Italian and Mexican..
    There are two and a half thousand Chinese restaurants in the Netherlands.
    An estimated one hundred fifty thousand Chinese people live in France. Of the more than three thousand Chinese restaurants in that country, half were located in Paris, ninety percent in the restaurant business. The one and a half thousand Chinese restaurants in England were divided into two categories, full-service and fast food (some of the latter offering fish and chips and Chinese take-out combined).
    There are about one quarter of a million Chinese people in England; most came from Hong Kong, ninety percent of them are in the restaurant business. The fifteen hundred Chinese restaurants in England were dived into two categories, full-service and fast food (some of the latter offering fish and chips and Chinese take-out combined).
    Most of the Chinese people in Ireland were also engaged in Chinese restaurant businesses. Of the two hundred restaurants there, most were small and they served Cantonese cuisine, for the most part.
    About one hundred thousand Chinese people reside in Germany. In this country eighty percent were in the Chinese restaurant industry or in a related business. Two thousand Chinese restaurants were scattered throughout the country, three hundred in Hamburg, close to four hundred in Berlin, and about one thousand in the Eastern states. Approximately seventy percent of these restaurants were reported to be mom-and pop-style places. In this part of Europe, Chinese restaurants served various regional cuisines including Cantonese, Sichuan, Hunan, and Chekiang style foods.
    Twelve thousand Chinese people live in Austria. In Vienna, they reported locating four hundred of the five hundred thirty Chinese restaurants. The Chinese population in Switzerland numbered six and a half thousand and most of them serviced the six hundred Chinese restaurants in that country. There were about thirty Chinese restaurants in Geneva, twenty in Zurich, and the rest scattered in other towns and cities. A large number were small and operated by Chinese immigrants from Vietnam.
    In Italy, the Chinese restaurant industry had expanded rapidly. There were about nine hundred fifty Chinese restaurants at the time of the survey. Most were located in Rome and Milan. Of the two hundred reported to be in Milan, the majority were owned by people from the Chekiang Province.
    The survey reported two thousand Chinese people in Spain. The restaurants there were mostly mom-and-pop operations owned by people from Chin-Tien, Chekiang, and Fu Chu. About eight hundred Chinese restaurants were located in Madrid and suburban areas, about one hundred in Barcelona, and the remaining were mostly scattered in tourists areas and on the islands.
    Most of the Chinese people in Norway, as in many other European countries, were involved in the restaurant industry. The approximately fifty restaurants in this Scandinavian country included small as well as upscale operations. They served a lot of modified Chinese cuisine to suit the tastes of the local people.
    There were about three hundred twenty Chinese people in Finland, almost all involved in the Chinese restaurant business. They served mostly Cantonese cuisine in small Chinese restaurants.
    Leaving Europe and traveling quite far afield, the survey advised that there were a total of eight thousand and two hundred Chinese-operated restaurants in Australia. Most were Chinese restaurants but a growing number served western-style food.

    http://www.flavorandfortune.com/dataaccess/article.php?ID=87

    It's fair to say that most of their clients r not their fellow local Asians, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
    Faure said that while haute cuisine is still regarded as the best in the world, with a revival in traditional French cooking in the US, more humble French restaurants were struggling abroad.
    That was also because French cooking was more demanding and needed greater technique
    , he argued.
    "Fifty to 100 French restaurants were closing every year in Japan (when he was ambassador there in 2011) while 200 Italian ones were opening. Italian cooking is very easy" in comparison, he said. ..
    Japan and China have more of the world's best restaurants than anywhere else, according to the ranking, which will be published on Monday.
    Japan topped the list for the fourth year running with 148 restaurants making it into the top 1,000 -- up 10 on last year -- with China fast catching up with 143.
    France came third with 116
    and the US fourth with 92, although many of those were French, or run -- like the New York's top-ranked Le Bernardin -- by French chefs.

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181130-french-restaurants-often-lamentable-says-top-french-guide

    In the latest annual ranking of “The World’s Fifty Best Restaurants,” only one French restaurant, Mirazur, appeared in the top 10.
    https://qz.com/816889/people-dont-like-french-food-as-much-as-they-used-to-because-french-restaurants-are-pretentious/

    So, even on that score France is now far behind the others.


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    Post  Aristide on Sun May 05, 2019 8:00 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:U definitely have racial superiority complex, so u r a racist & white supremacist, wearing rosy glasses.
    France tends to have a great life standard, awesome food and very high standards in technology, culture and art,.
    From 5 years ago:
    China recorded 2,378,000 millionaires in 2013, compared to the U.S.’ 7,135,000 millionaires, according to Boston Consulting Group’s 2014 Global Wealth Report. China’s millionaire growth skyrocketed last year, shooting up 82% from 2012. To put that in perspective, the U.S. only grew 18% during the same period. ..
    China and the Asia-Pacific (excluding Japan) are driving an overall increase in global private financial wealth, despite the U.S. continuing to post high numbers. The region boasts $37 trillion, or 24%, of the world’s $152 trillion in private wealth.

    http://time.com/2852740/china-millionaires/

    Paris is #3:
    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/global-millionaire-population/

    France lost the most 'high-net-worth' individuals, with 12,000 millionaires leaving the country in 2016, 2,000 more than the year before, despite economic growth during the final quarter of the financial year. The exodus came as the country faced several terror attacks and a rise in right-wing politics, reports Market Watch.
    National Front candidate Marine Le Pen launched her presidential campaign with hard line promises on immigration and suggestions she would pull France out of the EU.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4269494/France-lost-millionaires-year.html

    When it comes to those with fortunes over $50 million, France stands behind the UK, Switzerland and Germany.
    In terms of average household wealth, France is also placed high in the global league table. It’s no surprise that Switzerland tops the rankings with its average household wealth of $513,000, ahead of Australia and Norway, France comes in seventh, with the average wealth standing at $296,000, putting it just behind Sweden. ..
    The total wealth of French households is also very sizeable. Although just 1.0% of the world’s adults reside in France, in terms of aggregate household wealth in current USD it ranks fourth among nations – behind China and just ahead of  Germany.
    While the news may be good for France’s most wealthy, Credit Suisse’s report on the country makes less pleasant reading for the population as a whole.
    Entitled “Uncertain prospects” the study’s report on France says: “Although the euro crisis has receded for the moment, France continues to struggle with high unemployment and low growth.
    “Despite these challenges, it remains seventh in the world in terms of household wealth per adult. ..
    France’s country report also states that there is a “greater financial inequality than seen in most other EU countries.”

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20131010/france-tops-europes-table-of-millionaires

    So, among the other Europeans, France isn't the best. U can't eat, wear, drive, & find shelter in ur fine art, culture, & nice beaches.
    The available Chinese food is even better than the French. There r more Chinese eateries & restaurants + those of other Asian cuisines influenced by it outside of their countries than the French 1s outside of France & her possessions.
    https://china.usc.edu/chinese-restaurants-around-world
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_restaurant

    Of the twenty-three thousand they called 'Oriental' restaurants in the USA, ninety percent were actually Chinese restaurants. The Chinese restaurants had annual sales of more than six billion US dollars; that is lots of cash spent on Chinese restaurant food consumption, both eat-in and take-out. Chinese food is one of the three most popular cuisines in the United States; the other two are Italian and Mexican..
    There are two and a half thousand Chinese restaurants in the Netherlands.
    An estimated one hundred fifty thousand Chinese people live in France. Of the more than three thousand Chinese restaurants in that country, half were located in Paris, ninety percent in the restaurant business. The one and a half thousand Chinese restaurants in England were divided into two categories, full-service and fast food (some of the latter offering fish and chips and Chinese take-out combined).
    There are about one quarter of a million Chinese people in England; most came from Hong Kong, ninety percent of them are in the restaurant business. The fifteen hundred Chinese restaurants in England were dived into two categories, full-service and fast food (some of the latter offering fish and chips and Chinese take-out combined).
    Most of the Chinese people in Ireland were also engaged in Chinese restaurant businesses. Of the two hundred restaurants there, most were small and they served Cantonese cuisine, for the most part.
    About one hundred thousand Chinese people reside in Germany. In this country eighty percent were in the Chinese restaurant industry or in a related business. Two thousand Chinese restaurants were scattered throughout the country, three hundred in Hamburg, close to four hundred in Berlin, and about one thousand in the Eastern states. Approximately seventy percent of these restaurants were reported to be mom-and pop-style places. In this part of Europe, Chinese restaurants served various regional cuisines including Cantonese, Sichuan, Hunan, and Chekiang style foods.
    Twelve thousand Chinese people live in Austria. In Vienna, they reported locating four hundred of the five hundred thirty Chinese restaurants. The Chinese population in Switzerland numbered six and a half thousand and most of them serviced the six hundred Chinese restaurants in that country. There were about thirty Chinese restaurants in Geneva, twenty in Zurich, and the rest scattered in other towns and cities. A large number were small and operated by Chinese immigrants from Vietnam.
    In Italy, the Chinese restaurant industry had expanded rapidly. There were about nine hundred fifty Chinese restaurants at the time of the survey. Most were located in Rome and Milan. Of the two hundred reported to be in Milan, the majority were owned by people from the Chekiang Province.
    The survey reported two thousand Chinese people in Spain. The restaurants there were mostly mom-and-pop operations owned by people from Chin-Tien, Chekiang, and Fu Chu. About eight hundred Chinese restaurants were located in Madrid and suburban areas, about one hundred in Barcelona, and the remaining were mostly scattered in tourists areas and on the islands.
    Most of the Chinese people in Norway, as in many other European countries, were involved in the restaurant industry. The approximately fifty restaurants in this Scandinavian country included small as well as upscale operations. They served a lot of modified Chinese cuisine to suit the tastes of the local people.
    There were about three hundred twenty Chinese people in Finland, almost all involved in the Chinese restaurant business. They served mostly Cantonese cuisine in small Chinese restaurants.
    Leaving Europe and traveling quite far afield, the survey advised that there were a total of eight thousand and two hundred Chinese-operated restaurants in Australia. Most were Chinese restaurants but a growing number served western-style food.

    http://www.flavorandfortune.com/dataaccess/article.php?ID=87

    It's fair to say that most of their clients r not their fellow local Asians, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
    Faure said that while haute cuisine is still regarded as the best in the world, with a revival in traditional French cooking in the US, more humble French restaurants were struggling abroad.
    That was also because French cooking was more demanding and needed greater technique
    , he argued.
    "Fifty to 100 French restaurants were closing every year in Japan (when he was ambassador there in 2011) while 200 Italian ones were opening. Italian cooking is very easy" in comparison, he said. ..
    Japan and China have more of the world's best restaurants than anywhere else, according to the ranking, which will be published on Monday.
    Japan topped the list for the fourth year running with 148 restaurants making it into the top 1,000 -- up 10 on last year -- with China fast catching up with 143.
    France came third with 116
    and the US fourth with 92, although many of those were French, or run -- like the New York's top-ranked Le Bernardin -- by French chefs.

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181130-french-restaurants-often-lamentable-says-top-french-guide

    In the latest annual ranking of “The World’s Fifty Best Restaurants,” only one French restaurant, Mirazur, appeared in the top 10.
    https://qz.com/816889/people-dont-like-french-food-as-much-as-they-used-to-because-french-restaurants-are-pretentious/

    So, even on that score France is now far behind the others.

    Old man, you show again and again your lack of IQ. Stop it, you make me feel like a god.

    Your own link says France is one of richest nations in the world.

    That China has over one billion people natuarally gives it more millionairs. Millionairs who buy Villas in France btw and anchro places for their yachts.

    The big majority in China lives like scum.

    Now old man, out of my eyes
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    Post  Aristide on Sun May 05, 2019 9:28 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:The point is overall, France isn't on the top in anything u brag about. The Chinese middle class is now 6.4 x larger than the whole of France's 65M population:
    In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people.
    https://chinapower.csis.org/china-middle-class/
    https://www.britannica.com/place/France

    If a former Maoist country can even sustain that, that alone leaves ur France in the dust.
    Having more % of higher middle class in France is negated by the above figures.
    https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/french-middle-class-under-pressure-according-to-oecd/

    The US is preparing for the latest attack on Venezuela: $Ms and mercenaries
    https://ria.ru/20190503/1553233467.html?in=t

    https://news.antiwar.com/2019/05/03/venezuelan-opposition-wary-of-us-invasion/

    https://outline.com/XWDeF2

    What do you like about France old man.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun May 05, 2019 9:50 pm

    Aristide wrote:.......
    What do you like about France old man.


    Last good thing that came out of France was movie Taxi (1998)

    This was back when I was in high school

    Italians do everything better, sorry Cool
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    Post  George1 on Sun May 05, 2019 10:47 pm

    off-topic posts will be soon removed i will leave only those for venezuela
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun May 05, 2019 11:09 pm

    Aristide wrote:What do you like about France old man.
    I already answered it on France thread; as a young man, u should have a better memory! If the fact that not every1 likes everything about France bothers u, I'm sorry. Ethnocentrism & xenophobia (even if u r not xenophobic) that comes from the fear of the unknown exists everywhere, not just in France.
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    Post  Regular on Mon May 06, 2019 2:54 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    Aristide wrote:What do you like about France old man.
    I already answered it on France thread; as a young man, u should have a better memory! If the fact that not every1 likes everything about France bothers u, I'm sorry. Ethnocentrism & xenophobia (even if u r not xenophobic) that comes from the fear of the unknown exists everywhere, not just in France.
    Let me paraphrase my Francophone father- an old wise man who seen ye old world before I was hatched said what he dislikes about France- untamed, animalistic, barbaric n*****s arriving from Africa.

    Other than that to eastern Europeans French and maybe Italian culture was like Greek for Romans.. English humour and mentality hits the wall when for homo-sovieticus Louis de Funes, Belmondo and etc were household names. I wish I could speak French as my second language is German I can hardly find anything interesting coming from them anyways...
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    Post  GarryB on Mon May 06, 2019 3:57 am

    It means fear of foreigners fear of strangers... it is you in a bow... (ie it is you exactly)

    U definitely have racial superiority complex, so u r a racist & white supremacist, wearing rosy glasses.

    You are wasting your time Tsavo... he is not interested in reality.

    I dont fear. I judge and see us as better.

    So why waste your time talking to us lower cast people?

    Usually when one shows off it is because they are trying to get praise or respect, or they are trying to impress the audience, what is the point of your peacocking here?
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:10 pm

    They aid Venezuela lost 40% of its gold reserves.

    The UK, France and Germany took it. Venezuela stored the gold in France, UK and Germany for security reasons.

    Germany took 23 tons, France 40 tons and UK 51 tons.

    1 Gramm actually is 34,23 €.

    That means 1 Kg Gold is 34.230 €.

    Since we got 40 tons from them, we got 1.369.200.000,- € from Venezuela.

    1.4 billion € just for France

    And you guys say sanctions dont bring profits.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:52 pm

    Eat that gold then! How much $ can u take to ur grave? Zero! The other countries stop storing their gold so it won't happen to them, & u'll loose more in the long run.
    Meanwhile, the US started buying their oil again, & the opposition there is divided:
    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Imports-Of-Venezuelan-Oil-Still-Trickling-In.html#

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/08/c_138126938.htm

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/17/uncle-sam-needs-our-help-again/
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:05 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Eat that gold then! How much $ can u take to ur grave? Zero! The other countries stop storing their gold so it won't happen to them, & u'll loose more in the long run.
    Meanwhile, the US started buying their oil again, & the opposition there is divided:
    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Imports-Of-Venezuelan-Oil-Still-Trickling-In.html#

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/08/c_138126938.htm

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/17/uncle-sam-needs-our-help-again/

    1.4 billion is a nice sum. I guess we put it to our reserves.

    We dont eat goldn Wink

    We use it as reserve for bad times.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:13 pm

    If the times were good now, u wouldn't have Yellow Vest protests.
    I doubt that that gold alone will fix ur problems. Spain too stole tons of gold & silver from the Americas but remained economically weak compared with the British, Portuguese & Dutch empires.
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:04 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:If the times were good now, u wouldn't have Yellow Vest protests.
    I doubt that that gold alone will fix ur problems. Spain too stole tons of gold & silver from the Americas but remained economically weak compared with the British, Portuguese & Dutch empires.

    Times are too good. Thats the problem in France. People have become decadent and know no real poverty. They protest about 1st world problems.

    As long in can travel, enjoy my life and have a great time i dont care about the plebs.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:19 pm

    People have become decadent and know no real poverty. They protest about 1st world problems.
    people always want to live better & have a strong safety net instead of living hand to mouth. For all the conveniences of civilization there's a price to pay; when there's not enough $ to pay while those prices could be lower, their lives return back to the 19th century with its horse drawn carriages & bicycles.

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