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    Post  havok Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:12 am

    miketheterrible wrote: Russia has progressed quite far and the reality was the Piss poor Russian equipment still taken down stealth during Yugoslavia conflict as well as made a mockery of your forces in Vietnam.  MiG-25 for being a piece of shit as you put it, flew faster, higher and was a problem as an interceptor to your aircrafts.

    And even India has a nice showing you guys off in various exercises with Russian junk.

    Other indication is that lovely NATO has access to s-300 yet manages to keep pissing itself over the deployment of these systems.

    So I'm just going to go strait to the point: prove your credentials and your claims to having seen the MiG-25 interior when you placed your "engineering" cap on.
    I have no interests in 'proving' anything of myself to you, as in the people in this forum. I come in once in a while just to entertain myself. From what I see -- nothing but kids.

    Our one F-117 loss over Yugoslavia ? We have been thru this before. Did it deterred the development of low radar observable platforms in general ? No. Your Russia is struggling on that front.

    Perception is Reality, and the perception is that regardless of what happened in Yugoslavia, Russia is behind US. You can strain to argue that we lost more than one F-117 with weak-dick reasoning all you want. It will do you no good.

    The MIG-25 ? It was and still is a piece of shit. It posed no problems to US once we took it apart in Japan. You did not read my post correctly. I did not say I had access to the MIG-25. I said I had a chance to examine the technical analysis we built from Japan. Plus, you forget we pulled Iraq's MIG-25s from the sands. When you have to rebuild the engines after a high speed Mach run, it is a piece of shit. We do not do that to our SR-71s and certainly my F-111, after a Mach run over the mountains of Scotland, did not required anything more than the usual oil analysis. You obviously have no experience in aviation. If your engine is rated for a certain level of performance, it should make it without requiring extraordinary maintenance efforts like an engine rebuild. The MIG-25 is not an experimental platform. It is a line production item. The V-8 in my vehicle is rated for X amount of hp and if I chose to push it to its limits, I should not have to take it to the mechanics to rebuild the engine. Only race car engines needs that level of care. Do you understand ?

    Am not here to say that the US is not concerned about Russia's weapons program, including exports. Of course we are concerned, for ourselves and our allies. But it is silly for you to think that just because we expressed our concerns, somehow that means we are 'afraid'.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:57 am

    havok wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:Invisible planes only exist in Holywood and western propaganda media in the west.
    Likewise, I can argue that the lethality and efficacy of the Soviet/Russian weapons exists only Soviet/Russian propaganda.

    When I was active duty and stationed at RAF Upper Heyford, we routinely have access to Soviet news, or what passed as news, custom edited and targeted specifically at Western sympathizers. It told of the terrible might of Soviet weaponry, of how NATO aircrafts would be swatted from the sky even before any of ours could enter Soviet airspace. All the while we, in our F-111s, rehearsed our penetration tactics, and thanks to Adolf Tolkachev, confident we will be able enter Soviet airspace all the way to Moscow if necessary. At every arms reduction negotiations, Soviet insistence that the US removed the F-111s from England were answered with: STFU.

    We in the West have a saying: Perception is Reality.

    If perception is reality, then Soviet/Russian arms have far to go before being perceived as on a par with their Western counterparts. In 1987, I transferred from the F-111 to the F-16, then I became a Desert Storm veteran. This is before the Internet so quite pre-historic to you kids on this forum. Desert Storm was the greatest black eye, at least at the perception front, to Soviet arms. Everyone was predicting dire consequences to allied forces, even though they admitted that the Iraqis will lose. The most confident of the lethality and efficacy of Soviet arms was, naturally, the Soviet military. Even before deployment, we read of the official Soviet government statements that even though the Iraqi troopers were not as well trained as Soviet troopers, Soviet arms will make up much, if not most, of the deficiency, therefore, just on the air warfare arena alone, there will be many American losses. Once in theater, we were too busy to pay attention to what the Soviets and the Chinese 'predicted' about the upcoming conflict. We flew and trained constantly.

    Then came the order...Then came Perception is Reality.

    Most countries have to import their defense and in this market, every customer is a 'captive customer'. You cannot be an ally of one side but buy your defense from the other. If perception is reality, what you bought will inevitably be tied to what will happen and at Desert Storm, perceptions and reputations are at stake. Countries were watching and even the politicians focused on what could be the definitive statement on whose guns, tanks, missiles, ships, and aircrafts were the superior. Then when Desert Storm turned out to the be the catastrophe that it was for the Iraqi military, equipped with Soviet arms and trained with Soviet tactics, the full propaganda measures of the Soviet government turned against the Iraqis.

    When you are a captive customer, 'Perception if Reality' is the kind of abstract discussion you cannot afford to have. Your national security is at stake. There is no third party you can turn to.  Remember, you were assured via an official Soviet government memo that Soviet arms will compensate for much, if not most, deficiencies the Iraqi military have. Then when it turned out the Americans and allies were more threatened by fratricide than from the Iraqi military, you have no choice but to cast at least one suspicious eye at your military and wonder if it can handle the job of national defense using the equipment it has.

    Perception is Reality is what sold the MIG-25. Sold physically to Soviet allies and sold virtually to the Americans. Our perception, and planned reality, of the MIG-25 was that it was superior to everything we had. I had the chance the examine the technical analysis of the MIG-25 when I was on the F-16. I put on my engineer hat and yes, the MIG-25 was a POS. Then when the Soviet Union collapsed and we went shopping because the former Soviet satellites were selling everything from tanks to jet fighters to even missile consoles, not just US but many countries found out more and more on the many technical inferiority of Soviet arms. Speaking as an Air Force guy, that is not to say I would have no worries if our pilots have to face current Russian arms, but if our experience from the Cold War to Desert Storm is any indicator, it is that Russia have not progressed that far from her old Soviet days while we have jumped from one technology to the next.

    What a one-eyed self-centred chap.... a terminal case of Exceptionalitis....

    Not even going to bother responding to its absurd rant... just add this fellow to my ignore list.

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    Post  Isos Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:58 am

    Gulf war ... lol! Iraqi soldiers surrendered that's all, they didn't fight. Could you prove that you are an ex-pilot. Going from bomber to fighter is weird for me, even if I'm not an expert about that.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:16 am


    When I was active duty and stationed at RAF Upper Heyford, we routinely have access to Soviet news, or what passed as news, custom edited and targeted specifically at Western sympathizers. It told of the terrible might of Soviet weaponry, of how NATO aircrafts would be swatted from the sky even before any of ours could enter Soviet airspace. All the while we, in our F-111s, rehearsed our penetration tactics, and thanks to Adolf Tolkachev, confident we will be able enter Soviet airspace all the way to Moscow if necessary. At every arms reduction negotiations, Soviet insistence that the US removed the F-111s from England were answered with: STFU.

    Damn... you mean their propaganda didn't state that they were weak and vulnerable... I wonder why those three little pigs didn't tell the big bad wolf they hide the spare key to the brick house under the third pot plant.

    By the time any F-111 got to Moscow the missiles would have been launched and the west would be over.

    Not sure why you are boasting about that... but then the west has always been proud at its ability to kill.

    If perception is reality, then Soviet/Russian arms have far to go before being perceived as on a par with their Western counterparts.

    If is the biggest word in the English language.

    If perception is reality, then Soviet/Russian arms have far to go before being perceived as on a par with their Western counterparts. In 1987, I transferred from the F-111 to the F-16, then I became a Desert Storm veteran. This is before the Internet so quite pre-historic to you kids on this forum. Desert Storm was the greatest black eye, at least at the perception front, to Soviet arms. Everyone was predicting dire consequences to allied forces, even though they admitted that the Iraqis will lose. The most confident of the lethality and efficacy of Soviet arms was, naturally, the Soviet military. Even before deployment, we read of the official Soviet government statements that even though the Iraqi troopers were not as well trained as Soviet troopers, Soviet arms will make up much, if not most, of the deficiency, therefore, just on the air warfare arena alone, there will be many American losses. Once in theater, we were too busy to pay attention to what the Soviets and the Chinese 'predicted' about the upcoming conflict. We flew and trained constantly.

    Perception is not reality... for a deaf man sound does not exist... only vibration... just because a blind man cannot see a dagger does not mean it will not kill him if thrust into his heart.

    Then when Desert Storm turned out to the be the catastrophe that it was for the Iraqi military, equipped with Soviet arms and trained with Soviet tactics, the full propaganda measures of the Soviet government turned against the Iraqis.


    Hahahahaha... yeah... Iraq had the latest Soviet weapons so when ALL of the west attacked Iraq it was fighting the Soviet Union and it won... therefore all Soviet equipment is crap.... congrats... that is the level of ignorance that will get westerners killed.

    Speaking as an Air Force guy, that is not to say I would have no worries if our pilots have to face current Russian arms, but if our experience from the Cold War to Desert Storm is any indicator, it is that Russia have not progressed that far from her old Soviet days while we have jumped from one technology to the next.

    Yet Iraqis with IEDs managed to keep killing your fellow soldiers on a regular basis... and those simple basic RPGs that would be beneath any western company to make...

    But if we do not have to, then I can just admit that I broke into Kim Kardashian's apartment in Paris and porked her prior to taking her jewelry. You do believe me, right?

    Nahh, I am sure you were invited... along with those football teams...

    I have no interests in 'proving' anything of myself to you, as in the people in this forum. I come in once in a while just to entertain myself. From what I see -- nothing but kids.

    Yeah, he is an old troll.

    Our one F-117 loss over Yugoslavia ? We have been thru this before. Did it deterred the development of low radar observable platforms in general ? No. Your Russia is struggling on that front.

    Yeah, I notice they were withdrawn from service pretty fast considering how potent they are supposed to be... Tax dollars well spent again...

    [quote]You can strain to argue that we lost more than one F-117 with weak-dick reasoning all you want. It will do you no good.



    You lost and F-16 as well...

    [quote]The MIG-25 ? It was and still is a piece of shit. It posed no problems to US once we took it apart in Japan. You did not read my post correctly. I did not say I had access to the MIG-25. I said I had a chance to examine the technical analysis we built from Japan. Plus, you forget we pulled Iraq's MIG-25s from the sands. When you have to rebuild the engines after a high speed Mach run, it is a piece of shit. We do not do that to our SR-71s and certainly my F-111, after a Mach run over the mountains of Scotland, did not required anything more than the usual oil analysis. You obviously have no experience in aviation. If your engine is rated for a certain level of performance, it should make it without requiring extraordinary maintenance efforts like an engine rebuild. The MIG-25 is not an experimental platform. It is a line production item. The V-8 in my vehicle is rated for X amount of hp and if I chose to push it to its limits, I should not have to take it to the mechanics to rebuild the engine. Only race car engines needs that level of care. Do you understand ?

    Which just shows your ignorance.

    Just like the MiG-29, the MiG-25 can be pushed by the pilots beyond its limits if needed. Obviously there are issues if they do, but if threatened a MiG-25 pilot can choose to accelerate beyond the mach 2.83 redline if they feel they need to in an emergency situation. Just like the controls on the MiG-29 allows the pilot to pull through the limiters and allow higher g turns than those allowed in the manual.

    If it means escaping an incoming missile then it is worth having the overhaul the engines.

    But you have no concept of anything different do you... it is alien.

    Am not here to say that the US is not concerned about Russia's weapons program, including exports. Of course we are concerned, for ourselves and our allies. But it is silly for you to think that just because we expressed our concerns, somehow that means we are 'afraid'.

    The US hates things it does not control... of course it hates Russia, and all other independent free thinking countries...

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:23 am

    @Big_Gazza

    He is not the first person I have come across who was in the western military and has a low opinion of Soviet stuff.

    Usually it is ignorance but often arrogance as well.

    The Germans were the same in 1941... the honest ones had a different opinion by 1945.

    I think if I was American I would be getting really shitty now too... I mean the greatest democracy in the world and they have a choice of Hilary and Trump... hahaha... I mean the Russians lost the cold war but if this is winning I am not sure that is such a prize...

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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:37 pm

    Russia's top arms manufacturer hands over five S-400 regiments to Defense Ministry

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    Post  Austin Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:58 am

    S-400/Long Range 40N6 missile getting inducted

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    Post  Austin Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:23 am

    The new anti-aircraft missile is able to solve problems even in space

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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:46 pm

    Moscow’s air defense units to get new regimental set of S-400

    The main task of the regiment will be protect the highest-level government and military control facilities


    MOSCOW, December 5. /TASS/. A new regimental set of air defense missile systems S-400 will enter operational near Moscow soon.

    "At the Kapustin Yar proving ground in the Astrakhan Region specialists of Russia’s Aerospace Force have started accepting a new regimental set of the air defense missile system S-400 Triumf. After live firing practice the new regimental set of S-400 systems will be delivered by train to an air defense missile regiment near Moscow," the report runs.

    The task of the mentioned air defense regiment, just like that of several others stationed near Moscow is to maintain the air defense of Moscow and the central industrial district, protect the highest-level government and military control facilities, industrial and power plants, army groups and transport links from aerospace attacks by a hypothetical enemy.

    Earlier, the Almaz-Antey concern in 2016 handed over to the Defense Ministry five regimental sets of the S-400 system Triumf. Military specialists accepted the previous batch of S-400 on November 3.


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    Post  rambo54 Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:13 pm

    images on https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20161205/1482870265.html tells us that 5P85S2 are going to 606th RGT....
    (see coat of arms https://cdn1.img.ria.ru/images/136703/90/1367039072.jpg )
    strange....they already gto 5P85T2 in 2007...
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    Post  Austin Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:46 pm

    Revealed: The US Military's Electronic War Strategy to Counter Russia


    The Pentagon’s soon-to-be published Electronic Warfare strategy calls for increased investment in advanced electronic warfare technology designed to defend U.S. assets and proactively use the electromagnetic spectrum to attack enemies.

    DOD officials say the new strategy will be signed and distributed in the next two months, with additional annexes expected to be ready by Summer, 2017. The strategy will be an unclassified document to be shared with U.S. military developers and defense industry officials, Pentagon officials said.

    Scout Warrior has learned of some key elements featured in the report, such as increasing EW attack technology, advancing new systems and training and equipping EW forces.

    “In equipping our forces, we plan to develop advanced electronic attack, advanced electronic warfare support, harden our kill-chains with electronic protection, invest in electromagnetic battle management to manage the numerous assets in the battlespace,” Pentagon spokesman Maj. Roger Cabiness told Scout Warrior.

    The prospect for a “first-of-its kind” DOD electronic warfare strategy gained new urgency following Russia’s successful use of advanced EW technologies in Ukraine, and the pace of global technological progress in the area of EW systems.

    Electronic weapons can be used for an increasingly wide range of combat activities – from detecting and defending IED attacks to jamming enemy communications or even taking over control of enemy drones, among other things.

    “Hardening the kill-chain,” for example, can involve the use of EW tactics to prevent an armed U.S. drone from being “hacked,” “jammed” or taken over by an enemy. Also, EW defenses can better secure radar signals, protect weapons guidance technologies and thwart attacks on larger platforms such as ships, fighter jets and tanks.

    The report will also specify cross-geographical boundary radiated energy technologies designed to strengthen U.S. platforms and allied operations, Cabiness added.

    The Pentagon strategy calls for efforts to “purposely invest in cost-imposing strategies which directly challenge potential adversaries’ EMS (electromagnetic systems),” Cabiness explained.

    The concept behind this effort to advance the cost curve and, for example, use less-expensive electromagnetic weapons to destroy, intercept or jam approaching enemy missiles, drones, rockets or aircraft; this is based on the reality that using an electronic weapon is much less expensive than firing an interceptor missile, such as a ship-fired Rolling Airframe Missile or Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile, to destroy an enemy cruise missile. These interceptor missiles, and other ship-defense technologies, can cost up to hundreds of thousands each, if not more.

    This tactic would both force enemies to spend money on expensive weapons while decreasing the offensive and defensive weaponry costs to the U.S., therefore advancing a “cost-imposing” strategy, as Cabiness explained.

    Improving electronic warfare modeling and simulation to better prepare for emerging weapons systems is also emphasized as a key element of the strategy. This can help anticipate or train against future weapons applications which may not exist yet, but nevertheless pose an emerging threat.

    Authors of the new Electronic Warfare strategy have worked closely with the Pentagon Electronic Warfare Executive Committee, stood up in August 2015.

    The purpose of this committee is to translate electromagnetic experimentation into actual capabilities being deployed, as reported by Federal Computer Weekly earlier this year.

    The committee is co-chaired by Frank Kendall, the Defense Department's top acquisition official, and Gen. Paul Selva, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    The new strategy is designed to inform and operation alongside existing Army, Navy and Air Force efforts to engineer next-generation electronic warfare systems.

    Air Force:


    The Air Force is, for example, revving up electronic warfare upgrades for its F-15 fighter to better protect against enemy fire and electronic attacks, service officials said.

    Boeing has secured a $478 million deal to continue work on a new technology called with a system called the Eagle Passive Active Warning Survivability System, or EPAWSS.

    These updated EW capabilities replace the Tactical Electronic Warfare Suite, which has been used since the 1980s, not long after the F-15 first deployed. The service plans to operate the fleet until the mid-2040’s, so an overhaul of the Eagle’s electronic systems helps maintain U.S. air supremacy, the contract announcement said.

    Various upgrades will be complete as early as 2021 for the F-15C AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar and as late as 2032 for the various EW (electronic warfare) upgrades, Air Force officials said.

    The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is also integrated with an AESA radar.

    Navy:

    The Navy is engineering a new, more powerful, high-tech electronic warfare jamming technology, called the Next-Generation Jammer, designed to allow strike aircraft to destroy enemy targets without being detected by modern surface-to-air missile defenses.

    The Next-Generation Jammer, or NGJ, consists of two 15-foot long PODs beneath the EA-18G Growler aircraft designed to emit radar-jamming electronic signals; one jammer goes on each side of the aircraft.

    The NGJ departs from existing EW systems in that it can jam multiple frequencies at one time, increasing the scope and effectiveness of attacks. This better enables U.S. aircraft to elude or “jam” more Russian-built air defenses able to detect aircraft on a wide range of frequencies, such as X-band, VHF and UHF. Russian-built S-300 and S-400 air defenses are believed to be among the best in the world.

    Radar technology sends an electromagnetic ping forward, bouncing it off objects before analyzing the return signal to determine a target's location, size, shape and speed...etc. However, if the electromagnetic signal is interfered with, thwarted or "jammed" in some way, the system is then unable to detect the objects, or target, in the same way.

    The emerging system uses a high-powered radar technology called Active Electronic Scanned Array, or AESA.

    It will be the only AESA-based carrier offensive electronic attack jamming pod it DoD.

    The NGJ, slated to be operational by 2021, is intended to replace the existing ALQ 99 electronic warfare jammer currently on Navy Growler aircraft.

    The new jammer is designed to interfere with ground-and-air based threats such as enemy fighter jets trying to get a missile "lock" on a target, developers explained.

    Army:

    The Army is progressing with an EW modernization plan which, among other things, seeks to engineer new systems with an “open architecture” approach such that they can be efficiently upgraded with new technologies as they emerge. Existing hardware, for instance, can be updated with new software when new enemy higher-tech threats emerge.

    Since the beginning of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the emergence of the Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb as a major threat, the Army has succeeded in fielding a host of technologies able to thwart or “jam” the incoming signal from a Radio-Controlled IED (RCIED), thus delaying or preventing detonation and potential injury to Soldiers.

    Some of the jammers fielded during the initial years of the war, such as the vehicle-mounted Duke V2 and Warlock jammers, informed subsequent upgrades designed to defeat a greater range of threat signals. For instance, the Duke V3 vehicle-mounted jammer, now fielded on thousands of vehicles in theater, represents a technological improvement in capability compared to prior systems.

    The Thor III is a Soldier-portable counter RCIED “jamming” device designed to provide a protective envelope for dismounted units on patrol. The device is configured with transceivers mounted on a back-pack-like structure engineered with hardware and software able to identify and “jam” RF signals operating in a range of frequencies. Thousands of Thor III systems, which in effect create an electromagnetic protective “bubble” for small units on-the-move, continue to protect Soldiers in theater.

    GATOR V2 is a 107-foot retrofitted surveillance tower equipped with transmit and receive antennas designed to identify, detect and disrupt electronic signals. The GATOR V2 is engineered to establish a direction or “line of bearing” on an electronic signal; it is also configured to use software, digital mapping technology and computer algorithms to “geo-locate” the origin or location of electronic signals within the battle space.

    The Wolfhound is a radio frequency direction-finder engineered to locate enemy command and control nodes. The system, fielded as a QRC in 2009, is able to geo-locate RF transmitters operating in certain frequency bands, thus providing Soldiers with key battle-relevant threat information. Wolfhound can be Soldier or vehicle-mounted.

    Kris Osborn became the Managing Editor of Scout Warrior in August of 2015. His role with Scout.com includes managing content on the Scout Warrior site and generating independently sourced original material. Scout Warrior is aimed at providing engaging, substantial military-specific content covering a range of key areas such as weapons, emerging or next-generation technologies and issues of relevance to the military. Just prior to coming to Scout Warrior, Osborn served as an Associate Editor at the Military.com. Osborn previously served at the Pentagon as a Highly Qualified Expert with the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army - Acquisition, Logistics & Technology. Osborn has also worked as an anchor and on-air military specialist at CNN and CNN Headline News. This story originally appeared in Scout Warrior.
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:00 pm

    So their strategy is to throw more money at it and continue ongoing projects? How is this a counter? Russia's EW systems is hardly known and it isn't exactly impossible to block or cause interference in radiation signals.

    Even the much touted AESA radar systems that is unable to be jammed, can be jammed by ground based systems. Has to have frequency hopping and excessive amount of energy. Which aircrafts are a problem of either. As for ships, EW using electromagnetic force can destroy solid state quite easily, even if shielded. But what their intentions are is dealing with Russian and Chinese EW with passive systems to detect and strike said system and counter EW. Nothing amazing or even new. Probably why budget for it is extremely low even for a US, overhyped and over inflated project from a US MiC.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:36 am

    Austin wrote:Revealed: The US Military's Electronic War Strategy to Counter Russia


    The Pentagon’s soon-to-be published Electronic Warfare strategy calls for increased investment in advanced electronic warfare technology designed to defend U.S. assets and proactively use the electromagnetic spectrum to attack enemies.

    DOD officials say the new strategy will be signed and distributed in the next two months, with additional annexes expected to be ready by Summer, 2017. The strategy will be an unclassified document to be shared with U.S. military developers and defense industry officials, Pentagon officials said.

    Scout Warrior has learned of some key elements featured in the report, such as increasing EW attack technology, advancing new systems and training and equipping EW forces.

    “In equipping our forces, we plan to develop advanced electronic attack, advanced electronic warfare support, harden our kill-chains with electronic protection, invest in electromagnetic battle management to manage the numerous assets in the battlespace,” Pentagon spokesman Maj. Roger Cabiness told Scout Warrior.

    The prospect for a “first-of-its kind” DOD electronic warfare strategy gained new urgency following Russia’s successful use of advanced EW technologies in Ukraine, and the pace of global technological progress in the area of EW systems.

    Electronic weapons can be used for an increasingly wide range of combat activities – from detecting and defending IED attacks to jamming enemy communications or even taking over control of enemy drones, among other things.

    “Hardening the kill-chain,” for example, can involve the use of EW tactics to prevent an armed U.S. drone from being “hacked,” “jammed” or taken over by an enemy. Also, EW defenses can better secure radar signals, protect weapons guidance technologies and thwart attacks on larger platforms such as ships, fighter jets and tanks.

    The report will also specify cross-geographical boundary radiated energy technologies designed to strengthen U.S. platforms and allied operations, Cabiness added.  

    The Pentagon strategy calls for efforts to “purposely invest in cost-imposing strategies which directly challenge potential adversaries’ EMS (electromagnetic systems),” Cabiness explained.

    The concept behind this effort to advance the cost curve and, for example, use less-expensive electromagnetic weapons to destroy, intercept or jam approaching enemy missiles, drones, rockets or aircraft; this is based on the reality that using an electronic weapon is much less expensive than firing an interceptor missile, such as a ship-fired Rolling Airframe Missile or Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile, to destroy an enemy cruise missile. These interceptor missiles, and other ship-defense technologies, can cost up to hundreds of thousands each, if not more.

    This tactic would both force enemies to spend money on expensive weapons while decreasing the offensive and defensive weaponry costs to the U.S., therefore advancing a “cost-imposing” strategy, as Cabiness explained.  

    Improving electronic warfare modeling and simulation to better prepare for emerging weapons systems is also emphasized as a key element of the strategy. This can help anticipate or train against future weapons applications which may not exist yet, but nevertheless pose an emerging threat.

    Authors of the new Electronic Warfare strategy have worked closely with the Pentagon Electronic Warfare Executive Committee, stood up in August 2015.

    The purpose of this committee is to translate electromagnetic experimentation into actual capabilities being deployed, as reported by Federal Computer Weekly earlier this year.

    The committee is co-chaired by Frank Kendall, the Defense Department's top acquisition official, and Gen. Paul Selva, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    The new strategy is designed to inform and operation alongside existing Army, Navy and Air Force efforts to engineer next-generation electronic warfare systems.

    Air Force:


    The Air Force is, for example, revving up electronic warfare upgrades for its F-15 fighter to better protect against enemy fire and electronic attacks, service officials said.

    Boeing has secured a $478 million deal to continue work on a new technology called with a system called the Eagle Passive Active Warning Survivability System, or EPAWSS.

    These updated EW capabilities replace the Tactical Electronic Warfare Suite, which has been used since the 1980s, not long after the F-15 first deployed. The service plans to operate the fleet until the mid-2040’s, so an overhaul of the Eagle’s electronic systems helps maintain U.S. air supremacy, the contract announcement said.

    Various upgrades will be complete as early as 2021 for the F-15C AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar and as late as 2032 for the various EW (electronic warfare) upgrades, Air Force officials said.

    The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is also integrated with an AESA radar.

    Navy:

    The Navy is engineering a new, more powerful, high-tech electronic warfare jamming technology, called the Next-Generation Jammer, designed to allow strike aircraft to destroy enemy targets without being detected by modern surface-to-air missile defenses.

    The Next-Generation Jammer, or NGJ, consists of two 15-foot long PODs beneath the EA-18G Growler aircraft designed to emit radar-jamming electronic signals; one jammer goes on each side of the aircraft.  

    The NGJ departs from existing EW systems in that it can jam multiple frequencies at one time, increasing the scope and effectiveness of attacks. This better enables U.S. aircraft to elude or “jam” more Russian-built air defenses able to detect aircraft on a wide range of frequencies, such as X-band, VHF and UHF. Russian-built S-300 and S-400 air defenses are believed to be among the best in the world.

    Radar technology sends an electromagnetic ping forward, bouncing it off objects before analyzing the return signal to determine a target's location, size, shape and speed...etc.  However, if the electromagnetic signal is interfered with, thwarted or "jammed" in some way, the system is then unable to detect the objects, or target, in the same way.

    The emerging system uses a high-powered radar technology called Active Electronic Scanned Array, or AESA.

    It will be the only AESA-based carrier offensive electronic attack jamming pod it DoD.

    The NGJ, slated to be operational by 2021, is intended to replace the existing ALQ 99 electronic warfare jammer currently on Navy Growler aircraft.

    The new jammer is designed to interfere with ground-and-air based threats such as enemy fighter jets trying to get a missile "lock" on a target, developers explained.

    Army:

    The Army is progressing with an EW modernization plan which, among other things, seeks to engineer new systems with an “open architecture” approach such that they can be efficiently upgraded with new technologies as they emerge. Existing hardware, for instance, can be updated with new software when new enemy higher-tech threats emerge.

    Since the beginning of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the emergence of the Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb as a major threat, the Army has succeeded in fielding a host of technologies able to thwart or “jam” the incoming signal from a Radio-Controlled IED (RCIED), thus delaying or preventing detonation and potential injury to Soldiers.

    Some of the jammers fielded during the initial years of the war, such as the vehicle-mounted Duke V2 and Warlock jammers, informed subsequent upgrades designed to defeat a greater range of threat signals. For instance, the Duke V3 vehicle-mounted jammer, now fielded on thousands of vehicles in theater, represents a technological improvement in capability compared to prior systems.

    The Thor III is a Soldier-portable counter RCIED “jamming” device designed to provide a protective envelope for dismounted units on patrol. The device is configured with transceivers mounted on a back-pack-like structure engineered with hardware and software able to identify and “jam” RF signals operating in a range of frequencies. Thousands of Thor III systems, which in effect create an electromagnetic protective “bubble” for small units on-the-move, continue to protect Soldiers in theater.

    GATOR V2 is a 107-foot retrofitted surveillance tower equipped with transmit and receive antennas designed to identify, detect and disrupt electronic signals. The GATOR V2 is engineered to establish a direction or “line of bearing” on an electronic signal; it is also configured to use software, digital mapping technology and computer algorithms to “geo-locate” the origin or location of electronic signals within the battle space.

    The Wolfhound is a radio frequency direction-finder engineered to locate enemy command and control nodes. The system, fielded as a QRC in 2009, is able to geo-locate RF transmitters operating in certain frequency bands, thus providing Soldiers with key battle-relevant threat information. Wolfhound can be Soldier or vehicle-mounted.

    Kris Osborn became the Managing Editor of Scout Warrior in August of 2015. His role with Scout.com includes managing content on the Scout Warrior site and generating independently sourced original material. Scout Warrior is aimed at providing engaging, substantial military-specific content covering a range of key areas such as weapons, emerging or next-generation technologies and issues of relevance to the military. Just prior to coming to Scout Warrior, Osborn served as an Associate Editor at the Military.com. Osborn previously served at the Pentagon as a Highly Qualified Expert with the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army - Acquisition, Logistics & Technology. Osborn has also worked as an anchor and on-air military specialist at CNN and CNN Headline News. This story originally appeared in Scout Warrior.

    Meanwhile Russian MOD will be accepting ROFAR, Photonic based systems by 2018.... lol1 Razz Embarassed
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    Post  Austin Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:20 am

    I really dont know whose EW will turn out to be better if the US NGJ and other systems can over whelm and kill S-400 systems or Russsian system will neutralise US ECM/Jammers.

    I hope Russsian introduce EMP weapon at a large scale sort of Hard Kill Weapons if these jamming counter jamming system fails
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    Post  Guest Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Meanwhile Russian MOD will be accepting ROFAR, Photonic based systems by 2018.... lol1 Razz Embarassed

    Into service? Highly unlikely. They still havent dealt even with AESA issues properly as of this moment and you expect ROFAR to be operational in 2 years. Some real application by 2018, sure, that is possible, but introduction, i doubt. Maybe post 2020, maybe even later.
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:11 pm

    There isn't issues with AESA. Reason they are taking time is because Rostec is working on GaAS modules of higher output and smaller in size/cheaper in production while working on newer GaN modules. They already testing newer amplifiers for GaN as of now. Only issue is that they didn't bother to really produce the older and less capable modules but rather wait till the newer, cheaper and more powerful modules are completed.

    They already are currently testing radar using Photonics so 2019 is more reasonable since proclaimed and reality are a year+ off.
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    Post  franco Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:43 pm

    S.400 put on duty outside of St Petersburg...

    MOSCOW, December 8 - RIA Novosti. Solemn ritual of intercession on experimental combat duty anti-aircraft missile regiment, armed with the S-400 "Triumph" will be held on Friday in Zelenogorsk, Leningrad region, RIA Novosti reported the press service of the Western military district (ZVO).

    During the objection experimental combat duty calculations of anti-aircraft missiles will test their integration into the existing system of aerospace defense ZVO in the North-western strategic direction and hold a series of special training.

    "The ceremonial ritual intercession on experimental combat duty for the protection of air borders of Russia anti-aircraft missile regiment, armed with the S-400" Triumph "will be held on December 9 in Zelenogorsk, Leningrad region," - said the spokesman of the ZVO.

    The interviewee said that the regiment was deployed at about 150 kilometers from the state border of the Russian Federation.

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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:18 am

    Militarov wrote:

    Yeah the western press is picking up on that these days. Not a pretty sight Shocked
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:11 am

    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Meanwhile Russian MOD will be accepting ROFAR, Photonic based systems by 2018.... lol1 Razz Embarassed

    Into service? Highly unlikely. They still havent dealt even with AESA issues properly as of this moment and you expect ROFAR to be operational in 2 years. Some real application by 2018, sure, that is possible, but introduction, i doubt. Maybe post 2020, maybe even later.

    Claims the poser. Put up or shut up, NATO fanboi.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:14 am

    miketheterrible wrote:There isn't issues with AESA. Reason they are taking time is because Rostec is working on GaAS modules of higher output and smaller in size/cheaper in production while working on newer GaN modules. They already testing newer amplifiers for GaN as of now. Only issue is that they didn't bother to really produce the older and less capable modules but rather wait till the newer, cheaper and more powerful modules are completed.

    They already are currently testing radar using Photonics so 2019 is more reasonable since proclaimed and reality are a year+ off.

    You would think this clown, Militarov, is some sort of project manager who knows what constitutes problems and non-delivery in this industry.
    It is obvious that he is just a poser with the typical Russia weak and inferior syndrome.

    From what I have seen the GaN parts are beyond the testing phase.
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    Post  Guest Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:29 am

    kvs wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Meanwhile Russian MOD will be accepting ROFAR, Photonic based systems by 2018.... lol1 Razz Embarassed

    Into service? Highly unlikely. They still havent dealt even with AESA issues properly as of this moment and you expect ROFAR to be operational in 2 years. Some real application by 2018, sure, that is possible, but introduction, i doubt. Maybe post 2020, maybe even later.

    Claims the poser.  Put up or shut up, NATO fanboi.  

    Arguments or go away.
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    Post  Guest Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:37 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Yeah the western press is picking up on that these days. Not a pretty sight Shocked

    Happens, in my unit one stored 5V27 missile caught fire during storage cleaning, best fireworks i have ever seen. But its just engine, alot of fuss and no any real, at least significant harm.

    What would be bad is if the damn thing fell on someone.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:00 am

    Militarov wrote:

    Contextless crap. So the clown doing the filming and spreading to youtube is not a saboteur right?
    NATzO saboteurs don't exist because NATzO is populated with golden angels.

    Context: what is the failure rate of NATzO SAM rockets in this class and compared to failure rate to those
    made in Russia. Without this information this video just demonstrates you are a NATzO fanboi trying to
    "prove" Russians are untermenschen.

    Meanwhile Mighty Technological Power (TM) America can't even get its astronauts into space. Maybe
    you should do a comparative statistical analysis on US manned launcher failure rates relative to the
    inferior Russian junk.

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    Post  rambo54 Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:51 am

    franco wrote:S.400 put on duty outside of St Petersburg...

    MOSCOW, December 8 - RIA Novosti. Solemn ritual of intercession on experimental combat duty anti-aircraft missile regiment, armed with the S-400 "Triumph" will be held on Friday in Zelenogorsk, Leningrad region, RIA Novosti reported the press service of the Western military district (ZVO).

    During the objection experimental combat duty calculations of anti-aircraft missiles will test their integration into the existing system of aerospace defense ZVO in the North-western strategic direction and hold a series of special training.

    "The ceremonial ritual intercession on experimental combat duty for the protection of air borders of Russia anti-aircraft missile regiment, armed with the S-400" Triumph "will be held on December 9 in Zelenogorsk, Leningrad region," - said the spokesman of the ZVO.

    The interviewee said that the regiment was deployed at about 150 kilometers from the state border of the Russian Federation.


    Interesting! That sounds like 1488th AD RGT....are there any video clips from the ceremony at Zelenogorsk?

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