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Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
GarryB- Posts : 38978
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Russia to Substitute Over 50% of Ukrainian Defense Products by End of 2015
Russia plans to replace over 50 percent of foreign-made products with domestically-built ones under its import substitution program, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said. He added that Russia's defense industry is developing more rapidly amid Western sanctions.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Russian Defense Ministry plans to replace over 50 percent of foreign products with domestically-built ones as part of its import substitution program which aims to provide alternatives to foreign defense industry components that are no longer available because of Western anti-Russia sanctions.
"If we talk about Ukraine, we will substitute some of their components by 53% by the end of the year," a ministry representative told journalists on Friday, adding that the substitution of all the products will amount to 67 percent.
He stressed that Russia’s defense industry is developing more rapidly amid sanctions imposed against Russia over its alleged involvement in the Ukrainian crisis.
"We will construct many outdated units over again by ourselves, we do not need the old Ukrainian ones," the representative said.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150731/1025241887.html#ixzz3hSn6UDRb
Russia plans to replace over 50 percent of foreign-made products with domestically-built ones under its import substitution program, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry said. He added that Russia's defense industry is developing more rapidly amid Western sanctions.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Russian Defense Ministry plans to replace over 50 percent of foreign products with domestically-built ones as part of its import substitution program which aims to provide alternatives to foreign defense industry components that are no longer available because of Western anti-Russia sanctions.
"If we talk about Ukraine, we will substitute some of their components by 53% by the end of the year," a ministry representative told journalists on Friday, adding that the substitution of all the products will amount to 67 percent.
He stressed that Russia’s defense industry is developing more rapidly amid sanctions imposed against Russia over its alleged involvement in the Ukrainian crisis.
"We will construct many outdated units over again by ourselves, we do not need the old Ukrainian ones," the representative said.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150731/1025241887.html#ixzz3hSn6UDRb
George1- Posts : 18315
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This guy has tremendous ideas!!
Russian deputy PM suggests creating separate defense subprogram for engine-making
Russian deputy PM suggests creating separate defense subprogram for engine-making
GarryB- Posts : 38978
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The main point is that with foreign technology now being so expensive it makes sense to buy domestic.
The penalty is that the domestic model might not have the same performance as the imported model, but at least now the money being spent is being spent within the Russian economy instead of going into some foreigners pocket.
Russian workers are earning money instead of foreign workers.
The penalty is that the domestic model might not have the same performance as the imported model, but at least now the money being spent is being spent within the Russian economy instead of going into some foreigners pocket.
Russian workers are earning money instead of foreign workers.
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Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
sepheronx Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:53 am
Very true. But regarding performance one, the best part is for plants whom already make engines of a specific type, can start producing of multitude of types. As they already have experience in designing and making engines, they can use what they already designed and made, as the basis for the more powerful and capable engines. Example is the engines being used for the Steregushy corvettes and soon to be used for various types of Russia's surface fleet:
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/65865/?pid=675274#comments
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/5/12/744826.html
http://www.kolomnadiesel.com/news/?id=721
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/65865/?pid=675274#comments
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/5/12/744826.html
http://www.kolomnadiesel.com/news/?id=721
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Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
Project Canada Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:18 am
The penalty is that the domestic model might not have the same performance as the imported model, but at least now the money being spent is being spent within the Russian economy instead of going into some foreigners pocket.
can't this be corrected overtime? like as local manufacturers gain experience from making their own production models, they should be able to update their products and come up with new and better designs periodically
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Another point is that when things are made overseas then Russian companies don't get money to invest in their products, so they have little chance of improving their products and becoming more competitive.
there are of course negatives too... a Russian company might know it is the only choice for producing something in the volume required and therefore not work to develop their product... they get lazy...
Hopefully that wont be a problem... and the money spent on domestic production and the experience gained in that production will lead to upgrading tooling and production methods to make them even more competitive on the international market...
there are of course negatives too... a Russian company might know it is the only choice for producing something in the volume required and therefore not work to develop their product... they get lazy...
Hopefully that wont be a problem... and the money spent on domestic production and the experience gained in that production will lead to upgrading tooling and production methods to make them even more competitive on the international market...
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Putin: MIC will consider six candidates of new general designer DIC
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Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
flamming_python Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:53 am
George1 wrote:Putin: MIC will consider six candidates of new general designer DIC
Yeah, as long as they don't put Rogozin as chief designer of the Russian MIC, I'm good with that.
But I won't feel safe until I hear it's not so for sure, that guy seems to get around everywhere these days.
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Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
magnumcromagnon Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:51 am
flamming_python wrote:George1 wrote:Putin: MIC will consider six candidates of new general designer DIC
Yeah, as long as they don't put Rogozin as chief designer of the Russian MIC, I'm good with that.
But I won't feel safe until I hear it's not so for sure, that guy seems to get around everywhere these days.
What makes you think he designs anything? Rogozin largely holds a figure-head position.
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Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
PapaDragon Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:44 am
flamming_python wrote:George1 wrote:Putin: MIC will consider six candidates of new general designer DIC
Yeah, as long as they don't put Rogozin as chief designer of the Russian MIC, I'm good with that.
But I won't feel safe until I hear it's not so for sure, that guy seems to get around everywhere these days.
Rogozin designs precisely nothing...
From what I managed to piece together his job is to forcefully and repeatedly insert footwear up the posterior orifices of various underperforming MIC managers.
Gotta say, he's been doing excellent job on that ''front'' since results are improving constantly.
Hand that holds the whip, rules the world!
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Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)
KoTeMoRe Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:38 am
PapaDragon wrote:flamming_python wrote:George1 wrote:Putin: MIC will consider six candidates of new general designer DIC
Yeah, as long as they don't put Rogozin as chief designer of the Russian MIC, I'm good with that.
But I won't feel safe until I hear it's not so for sure, that guy seems to get around everywhere these days.
Rogozin designs precisely nothing...
From what I managed to piece together his job is to forcefully and repeatedly insert footwear up the posterior orifices of various underperforming MIC managers.
Gotta say, he's been doing excellent job on that ''front'' since results are improving constantly.
Hand that holds the whip, rules the world!
He actually designed a good number during the negotiation with France.
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Russia’s sole manufacturer of armored vehicles may grind to a halt over debts
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http://tass.ru/en/defense/847583
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Russias maker of tracked IFVs is not Russias only maker of armoured vehicles.
UVZ makes armata and T-90s... Kamaz and several other manufacturers make armoured vehicles too.
And the whole story is about not paying a gas bill... sounds like it is really sensationalist crap not actually worth posting...
UVZ makes armata and T-90s... Kamaz and several other manufacturers make armoured vehicles too.
And the whole story is about not paying a gas bill... sounds like it is really sensationalist crap not actually worth posting...
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Russia’s only infantry fighting vehicle manufacturer files for bankruptcy
KMZ in 2015 struck a long-term contract with Russia’s Defense Ministry to supply in 2015-2017 more than 200 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Russian army units
YEKATERINBURG, February 9. /TASS/. A bankruptcy petition regarding Kurganmashzavod (KMZ) - Russia’s only enterprise manufacturing infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) - has been filed with the Kurgan Arbitration Court, the court press service told TASS Tuesday.
The petitioner is MTE Group registered in Moscow.
"The petition is connected with arrears on lease contracts of MTE Group and KMZ. Earlier the companies struck an amicable agreement, under which KMZ was to pay in two stages 41 million rubles ($515,000) of total debt on lease payments and some 1.9 million rubles ($23,800) of cancelation penalty," the press service said.
The court said Kurganmashzavod only paid 276,000 rubles ($3,460) out of the debt. "That’s why MTE Group demands that the plant be recognized bankrupt and that a bankruptcy commissioner be appointed," it said.
The petition was filed February 5 and has not yet been accepted for hearing. TASS was unable to get a comment from the plant.
KMZ, making part of Tractor Plants concern, is Russia’s only enterprise producing infantry fighting vehicles being in operational service with the armies of nearly 30 countries.
KMZ in 2015 struck a long-term contract with Russia’s Defense Ministry to supply in 2015-2017 more than 200 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Russian army units.
KMZ had wage arrears and a debt for gas to Gazprom mezhregiongaz Kurgan company.
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http://tass.ru/en/defense/855565
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Someone using the courts to get paid.
YEKATERINBURG, February 9. /TASS/. A bankruptcy petition regarding Kurganmashzavod (KMZ) - Russia’s only enterprise manufacturing infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) - has been filed with the Kurgan Arbitration Court, the court press service told TASS Tuesday. The petitioner is MTE Group registered in Moscow.
"The petition is connected with arrears on lease contracts of MTE Group and KMZ. Earlier the companies struck an amicable agreement, under which KMZ was to pay in two stages 41 million rubles ($515,000) of total debt on lease payments and some 1.9 million rubles ($23,800) of cancelation penalty," the press service said. The court said Kurganmashzavod only paid 276,000 rubles ($3,460) out of the debt. "That’s why MTE Group demands that the plant be recognized bankrupt and that a bankruptcy commissioner be appointed," it said. The petition was filed February 5 and has not yet been accepted for hearing. TASS was unable to get a comment from the plant.
KMZ, making part of Tractor Plants concern, is Russia’s only enterprise producing infantry fighting vehicles being in operational service with the armies of nearly 30 countries. KMZ in 2015 struck a long-term contract with Russia’s Defense Ministry to supply in 2015-2017 more than 200 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Russian army units. KMZ had wage arrears and a debt for gas to Gazprom mezhregiongaz Kurgan company.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/855565
YEKATERINBURG, February 9. /TASS/. A bankruptcy petition regarding Kurganmashzavod (KMZ) - Russia’s only enterprise manufacturing infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) - has been filed with the Kurgan Arbitration Court, the court press service told TASS Tuesday. The petitioner is MTE Group registered in Moscow.
"The petition is connected with arrears on lease contracts of MTE Group and KMZ. Earlier the companies struck an amicable agreement, under which KMZ was to pay in two stages 41 million rubles ($515,000) of total debt on lease payments and some 1.9 million rubles ($23,800) of cancelation penalty," the press service said. The court said Kurganmashzavod only paid 276,000 rubles ($3,460) out of the debt. "That’s why MTE Group demands that the plant be recognized bankrupt and that a bankruptcy commissioner be appointed," it said. The petition was filed February 5 and has not yet been accepted for hearing. TASS was unable to get a comment from the plant.
KMZ, making part of Tractor Plants concern, is Russia’s only enterprise producing infantry fighting vehicles being in operational service with the armies of nearly 30 countries. KMZ in 2015 struck a long-term contract with Russia’s Defense Ministry to supply in 2015-2017 more than 200 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Russian army units. KMZ had wage arrears and a debt for gas to Gazprom mezhregiongaz Kurgan company.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/855565
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Kalashnikov arms manufacturer raised investment into production sites upgrade in 2015
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JohninMK wrote:Someone using the courts to get paid.
YEKATERINBURG, February 9. /TASS/. A bankruptcy petition regarding Kurganmashzavod (KMZ) - Russia’s only enterprise manufacturing infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) - has been filed with the Kurgan Arbitration Court, the court press service told TASS Tuesday. The petitioner is MTE Group registered in Moscow.
"The petition is connected with arrears on lease contracts of MTE Group and KMZ. Earlier the companies struck an amicable agreement, under which KMZ was to pay in two stages 41 million rubles ($515,000) of total debt on lease payments and some 1.9 million rubles ($23,800) of cancelation penalty," the press service said. The court said Kurganmashzavod only paid 276,000 rubles ($3,460) out of the debt. "That’s why MTE Group demands that the plant be recognized bankrupt and that a bankruptcy commissioner be appointed," it said. The petition was filed February 5 and has not yet been accepted for hearing. TASS was unable to get a comment from the plant.
KMZ, making part of Tractor Plants concern, is Russia’s only enterprise producing infantry fighting vehicles being in operational service with the armies of nearly 30 countries. KMZ in 2015 struck a long-term contract with Russia’s Defense Ministry to supply in 2015-2017 more than 200 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Russian army units. KMZ had wage arrears and a debt for gas to Gazprom mezhregiongaz Kurgan company.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/855565
The petition hasn't been heard let alone awarded with actual judgement.
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Didn't know where to put this but:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/75556/&usg=ALkJrhhI9XOrLr5N7-f0dMzrOjYI5YrZHg
Essentially kurganmashzavod refuses to import from even Ukraine and Belarus. Why he uses term "unfortunately", I do not know.
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/75556/&usg=ALkJrhhI9XOrLr5N7-f0dMzrOjYI5YrZHg
Essentially kurganmashzavod refuses to import from even Ukraine and Belarus. Why he uses term "unfortunately", I do not know.
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Crimean defense plants receive state contracts — Putin
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Russia’s major tank producer restructures its debt to Czech Export Bank — official
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New facilities of Concern "Kalashnikov" in Izhevsk
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1875673.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1875673.html
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Russia's defense industry showed 13% production growth in 2015 — deputy PM
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Some 1300 new technology and 929 facilities for the Defense Industry by 2020.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/884319
http://tass.ru/en/defense/884319
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Russia to spend $15.6 bln on defense industry development — PM
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