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    Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)


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    Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)

    Post  flamming_python on Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:09 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Russia will effectively make the defense industries tied directly to civilian market, and vice versa.  Already we are seeing so many results of this.  This is something that was done in the US and in Germany for decades before and it proved to work great as the defense companies always had funds to continue to do R&D in new technology as well as incorporate civil tech into military, and vice versa.  Now, from what I have read, the Universities in Russia are ingrained in the defense and private sector in R&D and that is were majority of the university budgets come from.

    Essentially - Russia is doing what the west has done during the cold war.  I guess playing by their own games.

    You're naive to think that nothing of the sort was done in the USSR either. Of course it was. Huge amounts of science and research, development in various fields - were related to military-industrial needs one way or the other.

    What there wasn't was a capitalist system. Military-industrial enterprises were always assured orders, and they didn't have the incentive to bring out highly-innovative products for the civilian market - as they very much have to do now.


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    Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)

    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:28 am

    And yet they were as innovative as anyone...

    The layout of the MiG-25 was revolutionary and has been widely copied.

    The BMP concept of an infantry fighting vehicle has been copied.

    I would say the idea of the assault rifle was another example but it was a Russian invention before the Soviet Union existed in the Federov Avtomat of 1916.

    Rocket propelled torpedoes, helmet mounted sights with high off boresight AAMs, thrust vector engines for aircraft, automatic grenade launchers for infantry to replace light mortars... the list goes on.

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    Re: Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:02 pm

    Concern "Kalashnikov" acquires Rybinsk "Nobel Brothers Shipyard"

    As the newspaper Kommersant writes in an article by Anastasia Vedeneeva and Ivan Safronov, the Kalashnikov moored in Rybinsk. The concern buys "Nobel Brothers Shipyard", the concern "Kalashnikov" is expanding its shipbuilding business. Following Rybinsk shipyard and "Vympel", he buys "Nobel Brothers' Shipyard". Until now, the enterprise belonged to the structures of Roman Trotsenko and for the most part built ships for his own Moscow river shipping company. But the businessman lost interest in shipbuilding, and the lack of serial orders did not allow making the business profitable. But the "Kalashnikov" shipyard will allow us to talk about creating a full-fledged shipbuilding cluster.

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