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    Werewolf

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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  Werewolf on Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:52 am

    I have a question regarding russian meaning of Colors when they paint numbers on aircrafts.
    I've seen same aircrafts painted with sometimes different numbers like number Yellow 14 being sometimes seen with Blue 214 but both the same registration RF number.

    So what do the Blue,White,Yellow and Red Colors mean on aircraft?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:02 am

    Sorry, don't know what those sensors are... though likely linked with data collection at high altitudes.

    The colour of the numbers is interesting... I remember the PVO aircraft during the cold war tended to have dark green paint on their dielectric panels and nose radomes and often had blue numbers.

    Can anyone else help?


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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  Alex555 on Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:59 am

    GarryB wrote:Can anyone else help?
    Computer translate from old magazine:
    According to "Statute" board numbers were authorised to be painted in red, blue or yellow colour with a black edging. Colour of number showed an airplane belonging to an aviaregiment and ­ was determined by the order of the commander of a division.
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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  Werewolf on Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:39 pm

    Another question to the board numbers of aircrafts. I've seen several Hinds with same board number different modifications like Mi-24 Yellow 32 (June 2013 picture taken)

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Mil-Mi-24P/2303965/L/&sid=87ed9d74c95944fab7fe874633376eee

    Then i noticed on the promo video another Mi-24 but this time RED 32 and a different version a Mi-24PN not just P.



    This is highly unlike to be the same Hind as the Mi-24P Yellow 32, because the promotion video is from the same year and even the same month ( June 2013) and that several equipment is missing like MAWS and OPS-24N obviously.

    Does russia operate several aircrafts with the same boardnumber in different colors and mods?

    I also noticed that one and the same Aircraft had two different RF registration numbers, is that normal or can be just changed when needed?
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    Antonov orders effected by Ukraine crisis?????

    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:25 am

    Hi all, does anyone know if Russia's Antonov orders for AN-140, AN-148, and the upgrading of AN-124 have been effected by the Ukraine crisis? Also i very much doubt the joint Russian and Ukrainian AN-70 project will continue, does anyone have any news on this?

    Also i see that Russia has re-invested in the il-112 and the il-214(joint venture with India) maybe this has been spurned on by the Ukraine crisis???
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:31 am

    the Il-112 and Il-114 will largely replace the lighter Antonov transports in Russian service... that is the An-26 and An-32 and also likely the An-140 which was a gift to the Ukrainians to keep them producing aircraft.

    the MTA with India will replace the An-12, while the Il-476 will likely get a few extra orders to replace the An-70.

    the An-124 are made in Russia so Antonov will lose out there, but Ilyusion is working on a new transport design using a wide bodied new airliner being developed with China for the heavier aircraft role to likely replace the An-22 and the An-124.


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    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:26 am

    GarryB wrote:the Il-112 and Il-114 will largely replace the lighter Antonov transports in Russian service... that is the An-26 and An-32 and also likely the An-140 which was a gift to the Ukrainians to keep them producing aircraft.

    the MTA with India will replace the An-12, while the Il-476 will likely get a few extra orders to replace the An-70.

    the An-124 are made in Russia so Antonov will lose out there, but Ilyusion is working on a new transport design using a wide bodied new airliner being developed with China for the heavier aircraft role to likely replace the An-22 and the An-124.



    thanks garry interesting stuff. @)

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    2014 Final Production Numbers

    Post  calripson on Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:57 am

    What were the final 2014 production/delivery numbers for Su35, Su30SM, Ka52, Mi28, ect ? What about Yars systems mobile and silo ?
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:48 am

    calripson wrote:What were the final 2014 production/delivery numbers for Su35, Su30SM, Ka52, Mi28, ect ? What about Yars systems mobile and silo ?

    12 Su-35S i know for sure
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    Missiles procurement

    Post  Manov on Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:58 pm

    Hi guys, im new on the forum, i just wanna thank you for all the valuable information and nice discussion environment.

    My question is

    Do you have some information about the procurement of advanced munitions in the recently delivered jet fighters (SU-35,30,34), if they are already buying them, producing them or fielding it in the new birds. I mean systems like rvv-sd,bd,md and A-G munitions like kh-59m, kh-31, kh-29, smart bombs and possibly the airborne kaliber variants (su-34, mig-29k)

    Thank you
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:07 am

    calripson wrote:What were the final 2014 production/delivery numbers for Su35, Su30SM, Ka52, Mi28, ect ? What about Yars systems mobile and silo ?

    12 x su-35
    21 x su-30sm
    8 x su-30m2
    10 x Mig-29k
    20 x Yak-130
    18 x su-34

    these are the numbers for combat aircraft deliveries in 2014

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1129578.html

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    RWR, ECM vs FCR, AAM

    Post  indochina on Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:53 pm

    I have a question for the seeker head AIM-120C WGU-44 / B-band operation in the I-band, it can be trapped/jamming by the SPS-171 / L005S Sorbtsiya-S H / I band ECM

    Another problem, RWR SPO-15LM can alert threat, illuminated operation of APG-81 AESA fire-control radar ? I know it works with PESA radar, Pusple-doppler for AESA but I've never heard

    R-27EP use ARM seeker head, it can attack the F-35 APG-81 radar used with large radar emitters similar AGM-88, Kh-31P used to combat radar of SAM
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    Redesigning the PAK-FA

    Post  jhelb on Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:10 pm

    Guys,

    If you had access to the technology portfolio that was invented for the PAK-FA what kind of air craft would you build with it starting with a "clean sheet" design review optimized for a specific and narrowly defined mission?

    Fiber mat stealth. Avionics that will hopefully go from a low-workload hover to forward flight and back again. Distributed aperture Infrared Search and Track. Advanced communications. Advanced engines. Helmet cueing that allows the pilot to look down through their own bodies. Cooperative Engagement Capability via the Combat Cloud.

    For a start what would a single-mission fifth generation aircraft look like for the following roles:

    A 5th gen cargo plane?

    A 5th gen mid air refueling tanker?

    A true 5th generation stealth drone?

    A 5th gen ground attack close air support replacement?
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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:00 pm

    If I had any decision, it would be a light fighter aircraft. An advanced aircraft designed around some 4+ gen tech like RD-93 engine. Zhuk-A radar (newest iteration), and using similar avionics to Su-35 like the L band radar on wingtips and new ecm eccm ew equipment. Gotta be cheaper than what is readily available so that it can be fielded in much greater quantity.
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    Post  nemrod on Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:54 pm

    sepheronx wrote:If I had any decision, it would be a light fighter aircraft. An advanced aircraft designed around some 4+ gen tech like RD-93 engine. Zhuk-A radar (newest iteration), and using similar avionics to Su-35 like the L band radar on wingtips and new ecm eccm ew equipment. Gotta be cheaper than what is readily available so that it can be fielded in much greater quantity.
    Well said.

    Upgrade, after upgrade, design after re-design, Russia is going nowhere. PAK FA T-50 is simply a waste of money and waste of energy, a waste of precious ressources.
    Iam afraid with this new cumbersome aircraft with a dubious effectiveness will ruin Russia. We have the definitive proof with US that stealth and heavy fighter bomber's concept does not work. It would be better to develop, to upgrade the Mig-35, and SU-35. This is largely enough.

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    Post  putinboss on Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:43 pm

    I heard a rumour that the east german mig-29s radar where a little more better that the radars on the f-15 and f-16,
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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  RTN on Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:05 am

    jhelb wrote:Guys,

    If you had access to the technology portfolio that was invented for the PAK-FA what kind of air craft would you build with it starting with a "clean sheet" design review optimized for a specific and narrowly defined mission?

    The replacement for the Mig-31 will borrow technologies developed for the PAKFA. The same can be said about Su-35S.

    So basically we will have to see how mature these technologies are that can be used in a variety of platforms.
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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  TR1 on Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:51 am

    [quote="nemrod"]
    sepheronx wrote: We have the definitive proof with US that stealth and heavy fighter bomber's concept does not work. It would be better to develop, to upgrade the Mig-35, and SU-35. This is largely enough.

    Must be why Russia (and China, and others to some degree) are all going with VLO large 5th gen fighters.

    Because they haven't quite caught on to your realization about what works and what does not. Wink
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    Russian Airborne Radars

    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:34 pm

    In terms of power and resolution and ECCM capability, they were better, but in terms of different operating modes and multi role capability they were not as good.


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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:58 pm

    nemrod wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:If I had any decision, it would be a light fighter aircraft. An advanced aircraft designed around some 4+ gen tech like RD-93 engine. Zhuk-A radar (newest iteration), and using similar avionics to Su-35 like the L band radar on wingtips and new ecm eccm ew equipment. Gotta be cheaper than what is readily available so that it can be fielded in much greater quantity.
    Well said.

    Upgrade, after upgrade, design after re-design, Russia is going nowhere. PAK FA T-50 is simply a waste of money and waste of energy, a waste of precious ressources.
    Iam afraid with this new cumbersome aircraft with a dubious effectiveness will ruin Russia. We have the definitive proof with US that stealth and heavy fighter bomber's concept does not work. It would be better to develop, to upgrade the Mig-35, and SU-35. This is largely enough.

    PAK FA is doing Russia a major benefit though. Because there is a huge push for tech development in RAM, engines, weapons and avionics. I think using the RAM to greatly reduce the radar cross section, along with shaping, and using the tech learned like in Zhuk Radar AESA tech as well as optronics used for PAK FA, would benefit greatly. Maybe what has been learned from the engine development could be incorporated to reduce costs on the RD-93 as well as increase efficiency. The program is very beneficial but it is an expensive aircraft and in today's economic climate and the demand for more modern aircraft and in numbers needed to help match against NATO/US (or at least be enough) is needed and a cheaper aircraft is very much needed.
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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:57 am

    Personally I would not change much... the PAK FA is already going to be a very good aircraft for a range of specialised missions, while advanced model MiG-35 and Su-35 and Su-34 and a MiG-31 replacement, plus a fifth gen CAS aircraft, PAK DA, and a naval carrier based PAK FA are pretty much all bases covered.


    No one needs thousands of heavy 5th gen stealth aircraft... a couple of hundred will be plenty when supported by an air defence network plus 4++ gen fighters and interceptors.

    Some might say it is bombers that have been largely redundant in a world with ICBMs and SLBMs,but bombers/cruise missile carriers add a conventional attack dimension ICBMs and SLBMs lack... plus they are a visible system that can be deployed in times of tension, yet stood down when calming down the situation is needed. Other nukes don't have that flexibility.

    With a new generation of AAMs and ASMs the PAK FA will be a very potent fighter bomber aircraft.


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    Re: General Questions Thread:

    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:09 am

    Small question: is it possible to apply a anti-bird barriers and mechanisms like MiG-29 into the air inlet of T-50 ?
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:44 am

    Yes, but I suspect radar blockers would be more likely.

    With modern jet engines the blades are not separate items fitted to a hub, they are often part of a disk which makes them rather stronger and better able to resist the impacts of foreign objects.


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    aviation jargon

    Post  wes556 on Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:19 pm

    Unsure if this is the right topic, I have a question. By what name indicate Russian combat pilots an enemy aircraft?

    Onzeker of dit het juiste topic hiervoor is heb ik een vraag. Hoe duiden Russische gevechtspiloten een vijandelijk vliegtuig aan?

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    Post  Guest on Sun May 03, 2015 4:25 am

    GarryB wrote:Yes, but I suspect radar blockers would be more likely.

    With modern jet engines the blades are not separate items fitted to a hub, they are often part of a disk which makes them rather stronger and better able to resist the impacts of foreign objects.
    I am really interested in finding out how common are bird strikes with fighter aircraft then.

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