Russian Su-24 shootdown by Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter

Oguzhanoz wrote:Well,please don't be fanboys.If you keep tell asslovers etc, i will just remind you that we shot your plane down and you just cried.
Please make logical comments.
Oh they shot our plane down,we won't sunbath on hot beach this year.
This doesn't work man.

you Turks really live in your own world dont you?.

During NATO's emergency meeting, The floor got mopped with Turkey. Greece started off with how Turkey is an "specialist" in aispace violations and how Turkey does it like its an national past-time with Greece. After that came France, calling Turkey some collourfull terms. my favourite still being "a Monkey playing with an loaded gun". Germany called Turkey's actions "irrational, impulsive". even the U.S called it "disproportionate". The Eastern EU NATO countries primarily tried to get it trough "your" (turkey's representative) thick skull that for every Russian life you take they usually take ten of yours, speaking out of their experience with the USSR in the cold war. and the fact that Turkey had not experienced an retaliatory attack yet was because of Putin taking the moral high-road and showing the world how "reckless" turkey's actions where.

Like its often mentioned, some politicians play checkers, Putin plays Chess.

I think the fact NATO is not sending one single piece of hardware to Turkey in the wake of this sends a clear message. i mean, Germany again stated its Patriot-Battery will continue withdrawal as planned and French its DuGaulle carrier will remain under protection of the Russian Slava-class missile cruiser. while everyone knows NATO is anxious to grab every chance to bash Russia. but Turkey just committed to an act of war outside the NATO article 5 chapter and everybody knows it. There are even NATO officers and EU politicians calling to expell Turkey out of NATO because its actions are "comparable to that of an rabid dog" or using terms insinuating the same. Perhaps check it out yourself, after this incident NATO aircraft tell the Russians exactly where their own aircraft are and never even get near Turkish fighters as they do not want to get involved in the Russia-Turkey standoff.

this is really not an penis-measure contest, this is about Turkey screwing up and finding itself without any NATO support on the receiving end of the Russian Federation's economic and military machine.

Airbornewolf wrote:

Oguzhanoz wrote:Well,please don't be fanboys.If you keep tell asslovers etc, i will just remind you that we shot your plane down and you just cried.
Please make logical comments.
Oh they shot our plane down,we won't sunbath on hot beach this year.
This doesn't work man.

you Turks really live in your own world dont you?.

During NATO's emergency meeting, The floor got mopped with Turkey. Greece started off with how Turkey is an "specialist" in aispace violations and how Turkey does it like its an national past-time with Greece. After that came France, calling Turkey some collourfull terms. my favourite still being "a Monkey playing with an loaded gun". Germany called Turkey's actions "irrational, impulsive". even the U.S called it "disproportionate". The Eastern EU NATO countries primarily tried to get it trough "your" (turkey's representative) thick skull that for every Russian life you take they usually take ten of yours, speaking out of their experience with the USSR in the cold war. and the fact that Turkey had not experienced an retaliatory attack yet was because of Putin taking the moral high-road and showing the world how "reckless" turkey's actions where.

Like its often mentioned, some politicians play checkers, Putin plays Chess.

I think the fact NATO is not sending one single piece of hardware to Turkey in the wake of this sends a clear message. i mean, Germany again stated its Patriot-Battery will continue withdrawal as planned and French its DuGaulle carrier will remain under protection of the Russian Slava-class missile cruiser. while everyone knows NATO is anxious to grab every chance to bash Russia. but Turkey just committed to an act of war outside the NATO article 5 chapter and everybody knows it. There are even NATO officers and EU politicians calling to expell Turkey out of NATO because its actions are "comparable to that of an rabid dog" or using terms insinuating the same. Perhaps check it out yourself, after this incident NATO aircraft tell the Russians exactly where their own aircraft are and never even get near Turkish fighters as they do not want to get involved in the Russia-Turkey standoff.

this is really not an penis-measure contest, this is about Turkey screwing up and finding itself without any NATO support on the receiving end of the Russian Federation's economic and military machine.

It's cultural as well. The diplomats and officers saw the video of the body of the killed pilot being disrespected and desecrated as show of pleasure and force by known, turkish special intelligence-controlled teams. Usually when we play stupid games we draw lines to certain degree, we do not do this to the dead.

The dead person has not been returned to his relatives, do people realize what this means? This is right out off ISIS playbook. Turkey has lost the plot.

Does anyone else want to see a few Turkish jets downed simply for a bit of pathetic self-pleasure? I mean, Turkey aside, I really want to see some NATO jets pawned by Russian hardware. We know they're capable of wiping the floor with them, and when you see all these Western forum boys and their superiority-complexes...

I want to see their tears.

Since this has become the official vent and cancer thread, I thought I'd add my bit.

You cannot expect Turkish muslins who are morons and irrational ,to understand the real
bad policies of its Government that is becoming isolated in the world. Erdogan providing
weapons to terrorist to destroy Syria , had to look first at its own nation problems and minorities
because Russia ,Syria and IRAN but also IRAQ can play the same game.  Is like throwing
Rocks in a house made of crystal. lol

All that Russia needs to submit Turkey to surrender is two topol-M strikes on Istanbul and Ankara
and it will make turn the turkish very friendly with Russia again. Russian politicians are asking
for nuking Turkey.. don't think that Putin will do ever that ..few Russian killed.. but if ERdogan becomes unpredictable and crazy and choose to attack RUssia military base or attack Russia main land with any of the few dozens cruise missiles they got from American armed with nuclear warhead.. it will be the end of Turkey as a nation. It will simply be wiped off the map.
and after two or three Topol -M nuclear strikes Russia will invade without anyone left to fight.
and will take control of Istanbul and ankara.  that is to take control of the gates of the black sea. So Turkey monkeys better stop its government if they don't want to end to become history.

My prediction is that if Erdogan continues supporting ISIS for 2-3 more months.. Russia will start Arming Kurds in turkey.. to reverse the war Erdogan created in Syria .
And the mustafa moron who started this topic will be sent to the front line to die..for a
crazy dictator.  Turkey army will have to split in 4 fronts.. lol  Cyprus will be retaken completely by greeks.. Armenia will retake their lands taken after the genocide of them..Kurds will cut Turkey in Half..  Syria will take its land back. and Russia will take control of Istanbul and the gates to Europe..  have fun with that.  

If any muslin idiot things Anglozionist powers  really cares about muslins ,they will be for a major dissapointment. The only reason Obama support Turkey..is for the same reason they support ISIS and Alqaeda.. because the are useful idiots and can be used to attack
Russia..

Why don'T Russia fighting against isis as it show off to public.I think there is no isis on turkmen side.

Because there is more than ONE terrorist group in Syria..and all of them are bad..
ISIS ,ALqaeda ,FSA and 1700 other groups are terrorist that Erdogan and Obama smuggle into
Syria to destroy their country. Since RUssia military base is in LATAKIA.. it should be obvious
why Russia will need to fight more the terrorist more closer to its military base. Because
the terrorist more closer to them..and the ones more dangerous to their military base.
ISIS positions do not represent an immediate danger to Russia airforce.. only the ones in IDLIB,Aleppo and Latakia. could deploy long range artillery given by Turkey or Americans and hit Russian base.

In short Russia fight All the illegal armed groups trying to disband the Syrian government.
to repeat what NATO did in Lybia. Your question only indicates that you believe in the bullshit
of "moderate" rebels.. they are all friendly to ISIS.

OminousSpudd wrote:Does anyone else want to see a few Turkish jets downed simply for a bit of pathetic self-pleasure? I mean, Turkey aside, I really want to see some NATO jets pawned by Russian hardware. We know they're capable of wiping the floor with them, and when you see all these Western forum boys and their superiority-complexes...

I want to see their tears.

Since this has become the official vent and cancer thread, I thought I'd add my bit.

I want to see the Turkish-cockgobblers crushed in Northern Cyprus!

The only patriotic Turks.. are the ones ashamed of being Turk..
and their government being a terrorist state ,notice how more people support her.  



Down with the turkey terrorist.. Mustafa should be sent to the frontline in Syria
By Erdogpig so he take a bullet in the head , for its moderate tolerance to terrorism. Anyone who is ok with the murder of civilians of his government in Syria and his illegal war ,
by the support they give to ISIS ,deserve the same fate of the Terrorist that Russian airforce bomb.

Oguzhanoz wrote:i was just giving an example. Now if Esad wins or loses,what will happen next ? Theese groups will fight with each other military or politically.Look at iraq,they kurds,isis and goverment started to fight immediatly.
Russia is in Syria due to it's benefits but it was a huge move after Georgia and Ukrain.I think NATO wanted to stop it.We will see the consequences but i don't think it will be on a minorty of Turkey.There is an Israil over there and silent so far.It sometimes hits Syrian bases.
Why don'T Russia fighting against isis as it show off to public.I think there is no isis on turkmen side.

Haha Turkmens are the middlemen of Al Nusra, they also are the people who guarantee the safety of MiT people that collaborate and lead Al Nusra attacks, give them intelligence and do part of their planning. They are those who get the weapons through the border with Syria.

I asked you, what's the Turkish policy with Kurdish smugglers? Still no answer. Oh but Russia does fight Isis. Ask yourself how come none of the Tows is used against ISIS, but most of them are used against Assad? How come most of the ammunition the US buys in Eastern Europe goes to anti-Assad groups, but very little goes to Kurds, until they "lost" ammunition when Kobane started? Where was the Turkish army in Kobane when Isis was getting weapons, and ammunition and passing fighters from the Turkish border?


You and Mustafa have a problem with reality, I can't help you with that.

OminousSpudd wrote:Does anyone else want to see a few Turkish jets downed simply for a bit of pathetic self-pleasure? I mean, Turkey aside, I really want to see some NATO jets pawned by Russian hardware. We know they're capable of wiping the floor with them, and when you see all these Western forum boys and their superiority-complexes...

I want to see their tears.

Since this has become the official vent and cancer thread, I thought I'd add my bit.

IT can't happen like this. It will come from the blue. You know everything will get back to normal, every one will smile then an air mission over Syrian Iraqi border will go missing, and people will say it was shot from the ground by PKK, who will take responsibility, until we understand that the whole air mission (2/4/6 planes) has been shot down and that it isn't the work of manpads. And there Putin will be the first to offer condolences. Pilots will be killed and the search and rescue teams in Iraqi Kurdistan will be shot at and get away with barely any life in them. Turkey forgets that it has at least as many ennemies in the Area as Assad. And those aren't armed out of NATO stocks.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:Does anyone else want to see a few Turkish jets downed simply for a bit of pathetic self-pleasure? I mean, Turkey aside, I really want to see some NATO jets pawned by Russian hardware. We know they're capable of wiping the floor with them, and when you see all these Western forum boys and their superiority-complexes...

I want to see their tears.

Since this has become the official vent and cancer thread, I thought I'd add my bit.

IT can't happen like this. It will come from the blue. You know everything will get back to normal, every one will smile then an air mission over Syrian Iraqi border will go missing, and people will say it was shot from the ground by PKK, who will take responsibility, until we understand that the whole air mission (2/4/6 planes) has been shot down and that it isn't the work of manpads.  And there Putin will be the first to offer condolences. Pilots will be killed and the search and rescue teams in Iraqi Kurdistan will be shot at and get away with barely any life in them. Turkey forgets that it has at least as many ennemies in the Area as Assad. And those aren't armed out of NATO stocks.

I'm sick of this bullshit. I know it's the right thing to do, I know that it's all part of the Great Game/Russia's fight for survival... but I'm sick to death of reading the utterly imbecilic sewage that is vomited from the mouths of NATO diehards, and NATO itself. I am furious right now after reading some of their bile. Some of them consider the very act of slaughtering the pilot as justified... justified. They talk like NATO is simply abiding Russia, like at any moment they could put their foot down and destroy Russia's Syrian enclave...

I'm spitting mad. I'm over their two-faced bullshit with Paris and the Russian flight, I'm over them claiming all the credit for ISIS' destruction, all this power that Russia has demonstrated against ISIS these past two months and nothing friggin changes their stuck-up, red-necked, ignorant, racist, Russophobic, superiority-complex. This is why I want to see a whole Turkish flight get utterly obliterated all on camera, for the whole world to see, by the Russian VKS.

Sorry, but it's something I've felt building for some time, and I needed to write it out. Sometimes I feel I'm alone in a sea of idiots.

OminousSpudd wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:Does anyone else want to see a few Turkish jets downed simply for a bit of pathetic self-pleasure? I mean, Turkey aside, I really want to see some NATO jets pawned by Russian hardware. We know they're capable of wiping the floor with them, and when you see all these Western forum boys and their superiority-complexes...

I want to see their tears.

Since this has become the official vent and cancer thread, I thought I'd add my bit.

IT can't happen like this. It will come from the blue. You know everything will get back to normal, every one will smile then an air mission over Syrian Iraqi border will go missing, and people will say it was shot from the ground by PKK, who will take responsibility, until we understand that the whole air mission (2/4/6 planes) has been shot down and that it isn't the work of manpads.  And there Putin will be the first to offer condolences. Pilots will be killed and the search and rescue teams in Iraqi Kurdistan will be shot at and get away with barely any life in them. Turkey forgets that it has at least as many ennemies in the Area as Assad. And those aren't armed out of NATO stocks.

I'm sick of this bullshit. I know it's the right thing to do, I know that it's all part of the Great Game/Russia's fight for survival... but I'm sick to death of reading the utterly imbecilic sewage that is vomited from the mouths of NATO diehards, and NATO itself. I am furious right now after reading some of their bile. Some of them consider the very act of slaughtering the pilot as justified... justified. They talk like NATO is simply abiding Russia, like at any moment they could put their foot down and destroy Russia's Syrian enclave...

I'm spitting mad. I'm over their two-faced bullshit with Paris and the Russian flight, I'm over them claiming all the credit for ISIS' destruction, all this power that Russia has demonstrated against ISIS these past two months and nothing friggin changes their stuck-up, red-necked, ignorant, racist, Russophobic, superiority-complex. This is why I want to see a whole Turkish flight get utterly obliterated all on camera,  for the whole world to see, by the Russian VKS.

Sorry, but it's something I've felt building for some time, and I needed to write it out. Sometimes I feel I'm alone in a sea of idiots.

You're seeing their tears now. They're the ones that applauded the Turkish actions, called Putin a pussy, only to see that Turkmens are getting blown to bits, FSA/NUSRA and shit is getting done, their lines are getting bombed and even the mythical TOWs were half the amount fired than last month.

Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

While there are complaints about the harsh responces to Turkey in this forum, it is mild compared to that on others, but against Russia. This screenshot is from an American dominated forum, not about military affairs, but it has a section for world affairs. The bullshit from "muricans" and their ass licking friends in some European countries would make a mountain as high as Everest, and their hatred of Russia is poisonous to a degree that is incomprehensible. This shit from Lithuania wants to nuke Voronezh, and looking at other posts, and a history of hate posts against Russia over several years, this is not some non serious bluster like Shirinovsky, these scum mean it.

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

arpakola wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

One of the classic diplomatic statements of our time. It beats anything to have come out of Kiev.

JohninMK wrote:

arpakola wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

One of the classic diplomatic statements of our time. It beats anything to have come out of Kiev.

Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Khepesh wrote:While there are complaints about the harsh responces to Turkey in this forum, it is mild compared to that on others, but against Russia. This screenshot is from an American dominated forum, not about military affairs, but it has a section for world affairs. The bullshit from "muricans" and their ass licking friends in some European countries would make a mountain as high as Everest, and their hatred of Russia is poisonous to a degree that is incomprehensible. This shit from Lithuania wants to nuke Voronezh, and looking at other posts, and a history of hate posts against Russia over several years, this is not some non serious bluster like Shirinovsky, these scum mean it.

Does he know the Trade break down between Russia and Turkey?

If Ukraine is crazy to drop Russia, Turkey is what? There's very little that actually comes from Turkey. While an abrubt halt from Russia to Turkish import will cause short term disaster (55% gas/ 30% oil). Also Iran supplies a lot of that oil too (40% at least).

So in that aspect Turks are going to feel the pain. That's about 2 billions directly lost (3.6 million tourists with 680 USD expenditure in average). Now sure it would be 25 billions to re-route somewhere, but gas can always be sold, finding 4 million more tourists with that "ISIS-supporter" label, that's going to be hard.

Mustafa wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

arpakola wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

One of the classic diplomatic statements of our time. It beats anything to have come out of Kiev.

Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Aaaaand, there goes the propaganda. It's ok Mustafa. It beats paying 400 euros for a pet Scan.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

arpakola wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

One of the classic diplomatic statements of our time. It beats anything to have come out of Kiev.

Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Aaaaand, there goes the propaganda. It's ok Mustafa. It beats paying 400 euros for a pet Scan.

I don´t think its propaganda. You yourself ay russians want murder turkish people. So its not secure. Russia is not a civilized nation so i think its possible they act that way.

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

arpakola wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

One of the classic diplomatic statements of our time. It beats anything to have come out of Kiev.

Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Aaaaand, there goes the propaganda. It's ok Mustafa. It beats paying 400 euros for a pet Scan.

I don´t think its propaganda. You yourself ay russians want murder turkish people. So its not secure. Russia is not a civilized nation so i think its possible they act that way.

Murder Turkish people? In Syria, helping terrorists? Yes. In Russia doing business, visiting? Why?
Russia is civilized enough. HaD you brought down an US or Isreali plane, you'd be picking up bits of your planes and you'd have your border burning.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Mustafa wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

arpakola wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Our foreign ministry called russia a non secure nation today and warns turkish citizens to travel russia, since its not safe there.

One of the classic diplomatic statements of our time. It beats anything to have come out of Kiev.

Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Aaaaand, there goes the propaganda. It's ok Mustafa. It beats paying 400 euros for a pet Scan.

I don´t think its propaganda. You yourself ay russians want murder turkish people. So its not secure. Russia is not a civilized nation so i think its possible they act that way.

Murder Turkish people? In Syria, helping terrorists? Yes. In Russia doing business, visiting? Why?
Russia is civilized enough. HaD you brought down an US or Isreali plane, you'd be picking up bits of your planes and you'd have your border burning.

It doesn´t matter. You wrote me you want see tukish women and children dead. I have no doubt thats what you think. The reasoning behind this is solid. I have no doubts in your words or that of your regime.

higurashihougi wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Do you sincerely think that if a Turk goes to Russia he will be killed instantly by an angry mob ?

F*** it, that's just diplomatic/propaganda retaliation.

You are perfectly safe in Russia as long as you behave well and do not violate any laws. Just like it is very unlikely for you Turk to kill a Russian because of tension between two countries, right ?

Fair ?

All countries do not have law and police just for fun.

As I say in my byline, he is judging others by his own standards.

Can't say it better than that.

Mustafa wrote:

I don´t think its propaganda. You yourself ay russians want murder turkish people. So its not secure. Russia is not a civilized nation so i think its possible they act that way.

Russia uncivilized - fighting terrorism. But you are afraid of some internet voices, and no harm was done to even 1 Turk.
Turks would be protected by russian gov anyway.
But Turkey civilized , harbouring terrorists , destroying  Syria, stealing oil, mocking victims of terrorist acts, murdering its own minorities ... yeah.  

Could you repeat from what planet are you exactly ?


P.S. I'm more afraid of russians in Turkey , some nazijihadi idiots could take them hostages and behead them.
Dont worry about Turks wellbeing in Russia, be afraid so they shouldnt pull any terrorist acts in Russia, thats what you should be concerned.

KoTeMoRe wrote:
Does he know the Trade break down between Russia and Turkey?

If Ukraine is crazy to drop Russia, Turkey is what? There's very little that actually comes from Turkey. While an abrubt halt from Russia to Turkish import will cause short term disaster (55% gas/ 30% oil). Also Iran supplies a lot of that oil too (40% at least).

So in that aspect Turks are going to feel the pain. That's about 2 billions directly lost (3.6 million tourists with 680 USD expenditure in average). Now sure it would be 25 billions to re-route somewhere, but gas can always be sold, finding 4 million more tourists with that "ISIS-supporter" label, that's going to be hard.

On that forum they mostly know nothing about reality, only fantasy and hate. My hobby is Ancient Egypt and I had posted there, it is a very large and worldwide popular forum about "mysteries", about this, then about maidan, and then was banned at end Feb last year for posting a video that showed Berkut could not have been responsible for all the maidan deaths. I occasionaly look to see what they say, but it is a sewer.

higurashihougi wrote:

Mustafa wrote:Its simply prove. It says turkish citizens are not safe in russia. It also says it can be that if you have accident or felt ill, that russian doctors will just leave you ad not help.

Do you sincerely think that if a Turk goes to Russia he will be killed instantly by an angry mob ?

F*** it, that's just diplomatic/propaganda retaliation.

You are perfectly safe in Russia as long as you behave well and do not violate any laws. Just like it is very unlikely for you Turk to kill a Russian because of tension between two countries, right ?

Fair ?

All countries do not have law and police just for fun.

I´m not so sure about this. There are reports that indicate otherwise that turkish people in russia get harrased and bad treatment.