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    Russia and Turkey

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:01 am

    ANKARA, August 6 (RIA Novosti) - The prime ministers of Russia and Turkey signed an agreement Thursday on the two countries' nuclear cooperation and Russian firms' participation in the construction of Turkey's first nuclear power plant.

    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Russia would soon coordinate construction details with the Turkish authorities and start implementing the project.

    "We intend to coordinate the details shortly and start the construction," he said after a meeting with his Turkish counterpart, Tayyip Erdogan.

    "The victory of a Russian-Turkish consortium in the tender to build Turkey's first NPP opens wide opportunities for our countries. Both sides are evidently interested in the project," Putin said.

    He added that the Russian price to build the Turkish nuclear plant was 50% lower than the U.S. price.

    The plant is due to be built on the Mediterranean coast near Akkuyu. A consortium made up of Russia' Atomstroyexport, Inter RAO UES and Turkey's Park Teknik participated in the tender.

    Turkish nuclear authorities in May ruled that the consortium's tender proposal that included the construction of four 1,200 MW power units was in line with all technological criteria.


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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:13 am

    Not only that, but we became Turkey's biggest trading partner a couple months ago. We practically have them reliant on us at this point.

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  Stealthflanker on Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:37 am

    and our turk boys till saying "we have greatest Military in the world".... "Russia is Junk"..."Russian Ships Runs in Vodka"....

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  Turk1 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:07 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:and our turk boys till saying "we have greatest Military in the world".... "Russia is Junk"..."Russian Ships Runs in Vodka"....

    I never thought of that one... I have to write that down. Razz

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:52 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:and our turk boys till saying "we have greatest Military in the world".... "Russia is Junk"..."Russian Ships Runs in Vodka"....

    Many Turks are just still butt hurt because their brothers north of them are still allies with Russia. And they have enemies in their own alliance (Cyprus).

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:09 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Many Turks are just still butt hurt because their brothers north of them are still allies with Russia. And they have enemies in their own alliance (Cyprus).

    Most of the Turks I run across are still hurt after the butt woopings we gave them back in Ottoman times. They never seem to get over that.

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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:54 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:
    Many Turks are just still butt hurt because their brothers north of them are still allies with Russia. And they have enemies in their own alliance (Cyprus).

    Most of the Turks I run across are still hurt after the butt woopings we gave them back in Ottoman times. They never seem to get over that.

    They are like the Polish lol!

    But seriously, a lot of Turks aren't that bad. Just the die hard ones.

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:00 pm

    Putin, Erdogan Discuss Energy Cooperation, 'Turkish Stream' - Kremlin

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150317/1019635413.html#ixzz3UvUbrr3E

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    Post  The Ottoman on Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:16 pm

    ''A good neighbour is better than a far friend''

    There is no better comrad for Russia as Turkey and there is no better arkadas for Turkey than Russia.

    The biggest threat for JewSA and IsraHell is a strong alliance between Russia and Turkey.

    Great deals are signed between Turkey and Russia yesterday in Moscow. The trade volume between the two countries will reach 100 billion dollar in 2023 (35 billion in 2015). The Turkish Stream Pipeline will develop and Russia is gonna build the first Turkish Nuclair Powerplant ever.

    And last but not least: Turkey and Russia agreed about a post-Syria plan.





    Things that Turkey must do

    1.- Turkey must step out from NATO

    2.- Turkey must join the Eurasian Economic Union and Shanghai Organization

    3.- Turkey must open the Street of Bosphorus for Russian ships/cargo

    4.- Turkey must buy Russian weaponry, aircrafts

    5.- Turkey must remove the nuclair rockets of the NATO on their ground

    6.- Turkey should hire Russia an airbase/naval port at the Mediterranean Sea



    The things Russia needs to do:

    1.- Accomplish a peace process between Turkey and Armenia

    2.- Finding a solution between Turkey and Cyprus

    3.- Finding a solution between Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaidjan

    4.- Helping Turkey in securing the new gasfields in the Mediterranean

    5.- Helping Turkey to fight the PKK


    Like the good old Vladimir Jirinovsky said:


    "The US and Europe dont give a shit about you. They only use you. Only Russia is a real friend of Turkey. We are neighbours for centuries and neighbours must trust eachother. So, lets start Rus(Russia)Tur(Turkey)An(Iran). We all got our largeous armies, our oil-and gasreserves and our rockets. Turkey must leave the NATO and join Russia. We must do it now before the USA and EU get much stronger then they are already."

    The Russo-Turkic wars troughout history (13 times they fought against eachother!) were a disaster for the economies, relations, trust and peoples of both countries.

    No more war! But an alliance between the Bear and the Wolf!

    Turkey (Wolf = Starks) and Russia (Bear = Mormonts) must join forces to tear apart the USA (Eagle = Arryn).







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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:33 pm

    The Ottoman wrote:''A good neighbour is better than a far friend''

    And last but not least: Turkey and Russia agreed about a post-Syria plan.

    Do you have a link for that?

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  The Ottoman on Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:04 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    The Ottoman wrote:''A good neighbour is better than a far friend''

    And last but not least: Turkey and Russia agreed about a post-Syria plan.

    Do you have a link for that?

    Only if you can read Turkish or at least have a good translate program, because no word about it is written in the Western mainstream-media.

    Edit - I get this message ''New members are not allowed to post external links or emails for 7 days. Please contact the forum administrator for more information.

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    However, the head of the article is Erdogan: ''We can try a interim-gouvernment with Assad''

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:19 pm

    The biggest threat for JewSA and IsraHell is a strong alliance between Russia and Turkey.

    The USrael would disaggree with that part. The biggest threat to US in all three aspects of economy, military and politics would be an alliance between Germany and Russia. No more spearheading cannon fodder germans versus russians, so the US can make money will weakening anyone else. No more war in europe, no more political or economical pressure or blackmailing of entire Europe, that would mean a death sentence to US hegemony.

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  NationalRus on Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:28 pm

    neither turkey or russia is actually a enemy of israel so to soon to fantesize about it i would say, turkey is actaully even more of a israeli ally then we are lol1

    but overall the potential for russian - turkey relationship is massive, i hope we get from being "good partners" to good friends and then good allys one day

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  JohninMK on Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:53 am

    The Ottoman wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    The Ottoman wrote:''A good neighbour is better than a far friend''

    And last but not least: Turkey and Russia agreed about a post-Syria plan.

    Do you have a link for that?

    Only if you can read Turkish or at least have a good translate program, because no word about it is written in the Western mainstream-media.

    Edit - I get this message ''New members are not allowed to post external links or emails for 7 days. Please contact the forum administrator for more information.

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    However, the head of the article is Erdogan: ''We can try a interim-gouvernment with Assad''
    Thanks. As you say virtually no comment on the meeting has appeared in English.

    It seems to me that there are two main issues, first, TurkStream/trade and second, the logistical support for ISIS and stripping of Syrian assets by elements in Turkey that would have been discussed. Both would have required real diplomacy!

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  flamming_python on Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:15 pm

    I doubt that ISIS or rebel support bothers Russia much; Russia has learned to 'compartmentalize' its points of agreement and disagreement with Turkey and other regional powers in its vicinity, so that nothing gets in the way of increased trade and economic partnership.

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:41 am

    Russia doesn't even consider the US to be an enemy... it is the US that makes it so...

    It makes sense from Russias perspective to have friendly relations with everyone.... trade and communication/dialog allows many problems to be worked out or worked around.


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    Russian-Turkish Arm Deals

    Post  The Ottoman on Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:15 pm

    Russia Offers Turkish Navy Hovercrafts, Missile Defense System Technology

    By Thomas Barrabi

    MOSCOW - State-owned Russian arms company Rosoboronexport has offered to collaborate with Turkey to create amphibious hovercraft for the Turkish Navy’s use, a company spokesman said Thursday. A spokesman for the Russian arms exporter said Russia and Turkey also conducted joint tests of a missile defense system and reached several arms deals with Turkish firms.

    “We have been cooperating on the creation of smaller amphibious hovercraft, as well as the integration of combat systems of Russian manufacture with Turkish naval platforms," Rosoboronexport spokesman Anatoly Aksyonov said, according to Russian news agency TASS.



    Rosoboronexport operates at Russian President Vladimir Putin’s behest and accounts for the vast majority of Russia’s arms sales. Aside from the amphibious hovercrafts, Turkish officials also expressed interest in the acquisition of Russian short-range missile defense systems, Aksyonov said. Turkey would be responsible for the manufacture of the systems.

    Western nations have expressed growing concern in recent months about a marked uptick in Russia’s military activity, both in Eastern Europe and abroad. Russia’s armed forces have conducted extensive military exercises that reached as far as the Arctic.

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    Post  The Ottoman on Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:22 pm

    Rosoboronexport hopes for more arms deals with Turkey

    Rosoboronexport has announced that it has sent a delegation to the current International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF) in Istanbul that is going to hold talks with Turkey and other countries in that region on potential weapons deals.

    "Currently, in the interests of Turkey, we provide after-sales support for [Mil] Mi-17 military transport helicopters and supply spares and accessories for Russian-made military products. At the moment this is our main form of cooperation, but we are also working actively to increase our armaments exports to Turkey. There is another important area as well - scientific and technological cooperation with the Turkish defense industry. Effectively, this is the future of our relationship in the defense sphere," a Rosoboronexport statement made available to Interfax quoted delegation leader Anatoly Aksenov as saying.



    "The most promising areas of Russian-Turkish technological cooperation," Rosoboronexport said in its statement, "include joint projects to develop short-range surface-to-air missile systems, armored vehicles, tactical digital communications, orbital space systems, and various types of naval armaments. With the use of the findings of analyses of some of the latest armed conflicts, Rosoboronexport will hold presentations of armaments that countries in the region have the greatest demand for."

    Rosoboronexport said it was referring to about 20 models, including the Yakovlev Yak-130 combat trainer aircraft, Kamov Ka-226T light multipurpose helicopter, Mil Mi-26T2 heavy transport helicopter, Mi-28NE attack helicopter, Ka-52 attack/scout helicopter, Beriev Be-200 amphibious aircraft, Antey-2500, Tor-M2E and Buk-M2E SAM systems, upgraded T-90S main battle tank, Terminator tank support fighting vehicle, and TOS-1A heavy flamethrower.

    The naval arms to be shown by the Russian corporation include the Gepard 3.9 frigate, Amur-1650 submarine, and Mirazh and Mangust patrol boats.

    Rosoboronexport will also offer programs for the after-sales upgrading of weapons, the statement said.



    Russia has been taking part in IDEF fairs since 1995. In 2013, Rosoboronexport's booth was visited by more than 50 delegations from 17 countries, which "is evidence of high interest in Russian weapons in the region," the statement said.

    It said the March 16, 1921, Treaty of Friendship and Brotherhood between Soviet Russia and Turkey could be considered the starting point of weapons trade between the two countries. After the signature of the accord, Russia began to provide the Turkish government with financial support and weapons.

    Turkey's accession to NATO "did not become an obstacle" to Russian arms exports to Turkey, the statement said, and so today the Turkish armed forces' arsenals include BTR-80 armored personnel carriers, Mi-17 helicopters, anti-tank missile systems, and a variety of small arms imported from Russia.

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:26 am

    Turkish Foreign Ministry Protests Russian Airstrikes in Syria

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151120/1030462317/turkey-ambassador-airstrikes-syria.html#ixzz3s4qjrORT


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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  GarryB on Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:01 pm

    But Russia too polite to protest Turkey supporting anti government terrorists in Syria...

    Perhaps Assad should support the PKK in Turkey and destabilise that country and see how Turkey enjoys that sort of democracy and peace?


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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  franco on Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:37 pm

    GarryB wrote:But Russia too polite to protest Turkey supporting anti government terrorists in Syria...

    Perhaps Assad should support the PKK in Turkey and destabilise that country and see how Turkey enjoys that sort of democracy and peace?

    Putin had called the Turkish Ambassador in 3 or so months ago and ripped him for 90 minutes apparently. In retrospect, maybe the day the decision for this operation was made.

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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:24 pm

    MP: Turkey’s application to NATO instead of talks with Russia shows Ankara’s hostility

    The Prime Minister of Turkey Ahmet Davutoglu earlier instructed the Turkish foreign ministry to consult with the NATO and the UN regarding the incident with the Russian Su-24 aircraft

    MOSCOW, November 24. /TASS/. The intention of Turkey to consult with NATO in respect of the incident with the Russian military aircraft shot down in Syria instead of talks with Moscow evidences hostility of Turkey in respect of Russia, head of the International Affairs Committee of the State Duma Alexey Pushkov told TASS on Tuesday.

    "Approaching the NATO evidences hostility of actions of the Turkish side in respect of Russia. Talks between leaders of countries will probably be appropriate in a situation if the Turkish leaders have a desire of smoothing out the incident as much as possible," Pushkov said. Turkey applies to the NATO instead of talks with the Russian leaders as if it "calls to protect it against the Russian attack," he added.

    The Prime Minister of Turkey Ahmet Davutoglu earlier instructed the Turkish foreign ministry to consult with the NATO and the UN regarding the incident with the Russian Su-24 aircraft.


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    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:16 pm

    Lest You Forget: Lavrov Reminds Turkey of Its Involvement in ISIL Oil Trade

    Turkey’s decision to shoot down a Russian bomber involved in an anti-terror mission against the self-proclaimed Islamic State terrorist group means that Ankara has effectively sided with IS.

    Heading off any denial of this fact, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated Turkey’s role in the terrorist group’s illegal oil trade.

    Discussing the downing of the Russian Su-24 bomber on Wednesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had harsh words for his Turkish counterpart, Mevlut Cavusoglu.


    According to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."

    "…Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."

    Lavrov also pointed to Turkey’s role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade.

    "The Russian Minister reminded his counterpart about Turkey’s involvement in the ISIS’ illegal trade in oil, which is transported via the area where the Russian plane was shot down, and about the terrorist infrastructure, arms and munitions depots and control centers that are also located there," the statement read.

    "Sergei Lavrov specifically said that this act by Turkey will have serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations and will not go unanswered."

    Retired French General Dominique Trinquand made similar statements when speaking to Sputnik earlier on Wednesday.

    "[Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people," he said.

    Turkey downed a Russian Su-24 bomber Tuesday, claiming that the aircraft violated Turkish airspace. The Russian Defense Ministry has released flight path data proving that Russian remained aircraft never left Syrian airspace.

    The incident left one of the pilots dead, shot by militants on the ground after ejecting. The other, Captain Konstantin Murahtin, was rescued.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back by accomplices of terrorists."

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151125/1030764208/lavrov-cavusoglu-conversation.html#ixzz3sXnWgTbq


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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  George1 on Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:07 am

    Moscow Cancels Russia-Turkey Summit Planned for December - Reports

    Moscow has decided to cancel an intergovernmental Russia-Turkey meeting, planned for December, in view of the downing of the Russian Su-24 aircraft, the Kommersant newspaper reports.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – A Russian-Turkish intergovernmental commission was planning to meet in St. Petersburg on December 15. The meeting was agreed upon by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan on the sidelines of the November 15-16 G20 summit in Antalya, Turkey.

    "Russian authorities have made a decision not to hold the Russia-Turkey summit in St. Petersburg, which had been planned for mid-December," the Russian daily said on Thursday, citing a Kremlin source.

    On Tuesday, a Russian Su-24 jet crashed in Syria. Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the plane was downed by an air-to-air missile launched by a Turkish F-16 jet over Syrian territory, falling 4 kilometers (2.5 miles) from the Turkish border.

    Putin described the Turkish attack as a "stab in the back" carried out by "accomplices of terrorists." Ankara claimed that it downed the Russian airplane because it violated Turkish airspace.

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday that the holding of the December Russia-Turkey summit depended on a number of factors, but its cancellation had not been discussed.
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    Re: Russia and Turkey

    Post  Rodinazombie on Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:02 pm

    Russia plans to impose sanctions and freeze investment projects in Turkey in response to its downing of a Russian warplane on the Turkish-Syrian border, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev was quoted as saying Thursday.

    Medvedev said the government had been instructed by President Vladimir Putin to adopt retaliatory economic measures against Turkey and was empowered to place restrictions on financial operations, trade deals, the tourism industry, transport links and to impose new customs tariffs, according to the Interfax news agency.

    He also said at the government meeting that “agreements and investment projects could be frozen or simply scrapped,” and proposed canceling talks on a preferential investment framework with Turkey, Interfax reported.

    Specific proposals will be drawn up within two days, Medvedev said. He did not say which projects could be affected, but Russia had plans to build a gas pipeline to Turkey and construct a nuclear power plant in the country worth $20 billion.

    A pilot was killed when a Turkish F-16 interceptor shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber on the Turkish-Syrian border on Tuesday. Putin branded the move a “stab in the back,” and said it would have serious consequences for Turkish-Russian relations.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/550722.html

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