Syrian Civil War: News #4

South Front update Dec. 10th.

With this document FSA authorities in Aleppo banned mixed schools and universities (for both males and females). That i belive would be first time in Syria for decades.

Militarov wrote:
With this document FSA authorities in Aleppo banned mixed schools and universities (for both males and females). That i belive would be first time in Syria for decades.

"Moderates."

OminousSpudd wrote:

Militarov wrote:
With this document FSA authorities in Aleppo banned mixed schools and universities (for both males and females). That i belive would be first time in Syria for decades.

"Moderates."  

Meanwhile Tishreen University in Latakia today:









Source: https://twitter.com/LinaArabii/status/674702214183706624

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Most residents of Latakia are Alawites and Alawites don't believe in Sharia.

Alawites are shiites but they have influence from other religions also, so it is normal to be more "open" muslims.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Most residents of Latakia are Alawites and Alawites don't believe in Sharia.

All the more reason to team up with them. That place looks actually normal, kudos!

OminousSpudd wrote:

Militarov wrote:
With this document FSA authorities in Aleppo banned mixed schools and universities (for both males and females). That i belive would be first time in Syria for decades.

"Moderates."  

I just wonder why a pair of "moderates" was shot recently in San Bernardino, California?

par far wrote:That's true but I just wish that they would recapture more territory around the Turkish border and fast.

Actually they're making very good progress in the past week or so....the SAA can't close the border completely by themselves, the YPG will have to make a move....hopefully some backdoor deal has already been agreed

PapaDragon wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Most residents of Latakia are Alawites and Alawites don't believe in Sharia.

All the more reason to team up with them. That place looks actually normal, kudos!

As is precisely this Normal pro European culture what make it ,a magnet and attractive
target for American financed Sunni Islamic radicals but Also so called SHia Islamic "moderates".
True Secular nation,what Syria is ,is a major offense by 99.5% of muslin nations ,the consider
a major insult to Islam any muslin conventing to christianity and in overwhelming vast majority of muslin countries.. including the Shia ones like IRAN that many see as "secular" and "moderate" there is death penalty for any muslin converting to christianity.  So this is the hidden secret of Islam. You will not know about this ugly secret in any major media in the world that have a big muslin population (Like Russia) and neither in any European media ,or even less in a muslin nation. that ISLAM is NOT a religion of tolerance even if you see them at "peace" and making alliance with christian nations like IRAN does with Russia ,they are all very ,extremely repressive religious dictatorship , and consider Christianity a major threat to their Islam.  In Chechenia for example there are major conflicts because of this.. and muslins who convert to christianity need to do it in secret and in closed doors. Christianity is "moderate" muslin countries and or republics is only tolerates in ethnic groups that originally were christians like Armenians or Georgians and Russians or greeks for example ,but their religion have to be practiced in their language, but Muslin converting to Christianity is a real major offense to Islam. Russia is secular too ,but the confrontations between Non secular muslins which are the overwhelming majority and christians is very high. You already see lots of confrontation between Kadyrov and Kremlin because of Islam. They want beaches for muslins and the ability of muslins to marry many womens.. why they want many womens? Because they want to convert Russia to Islam. Why they build very Big Mosques ,with Gold ,to promote islam. Muslins are very aggressive in their promotion of Islam and destroying Christianity and converting the entire world to Islam is a major goal for them.

So there is a time bomb there in Russia ,in the Caucasus ,and that somehow Putin have managed to control using politics and bullets. But i don't think is going to last the honeymoon ,if Russia experience another economy collapse ,and Russia army weakened for Syria and Ukraine ,you will see the caucasus take advantage of this and explode again.

This is why American criminal strategy is to isolate Russia economy world wide not only from Europe but from Middle east and Asia too,to weaken its armed forces in conflicts that directly threaten their nation interest (as Ukraine ,Syria are). They hope to see another soviet style economy collapse in Russia and split Russia in parts with the help of muslins and the ultra national racist in Russia that also US NGOs support.

Many of the wealthy and poor muslins who go to Europe do it with the intention to convert the continent to Islam.All said.. a major confrontation between Secular and Christian nations and muslins is very possible in the future worldwide ,that will be world war 4. and a potential world war 3 is already in progress on its early start. But all this will depend on the ability of Europe and Russia to contain angloneocons Imperialism and its alliance with Islam. If Europeans do not
recover its Independence from Americans ,they will end just like Syria invaded by ISIS and other radical groups that will seek through violence and terrorism..as they doing to Syria ,submit Europe to Islam.

Vann7 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Most residents of Latakia are Alawites and Alawites don't believe in Sharia.

All the more reason to team up with them. That place looks actually normal, kudos!

As is precisely this Normal pro European culture what make it ,a magnet and attractive
target for American financed Sunni Islamic radicals but Also so called SHia Islamic "moderates".
True Secular nation,what Syria is ,is a major offense by 99.5% of muslin nations ,the consider
a major insult to Islam any muslin conventing to christianity and in overwhelming vast majority of muslin countries.. including the Shia ones like IRAN that many see as "secular" and "moderate" there is death penalty for any muslin converting to christianity.  So this is the hidden secret of Islam. that is NOT a religion of tolerance even if you see them at "peace" and making alliance with christian nations like IRAN does with Russia ,they are all very ,extremely repressive religious dictatorship , and consider Christianity a major threat to their Islam.  In Chechenia for example there are major conflicts because of this.. and muslins who convert to christianity need to do it in secret and in closed doors. Christianity is "moderate" muslin countries and or republics is only tolerates in ethnic groups that originally were christians like Armenians or Georgians and Russians or greeks for example , but Muslin converting to Christianity is a major offense to Islam. Russia is secular too ,but the confrontations between
Non secular muslins which are the overwhelming majority and christians is very high.

So there is a time bomb there in Russia ,in the Caucasus ,and that somehow Putin have managed to control using politics and bullets. But i don't think is going to last the honeymoon ,if Russia experience another economy collapse ,and Russia army weakened for Syria and Ukraine ,you will see the caucasus take advantage of this and explode again.

This is why American criminal strategy is to isolate Russia economy world wide not only from Europe but from Middle east and Asia too,to weaken its armed forces in conflicts that directly threaten their nation interest (as Ukraine ,Syria are). They hope to see another soviet style economy collapse in Russia and split Russia in parts with the help of muslins and the ultra national racist in Russia that also US NGOs support.

All said.. a major confrontation between Secular and Christian nations and muslins is very possible in the future worldwide ,that will be world war 4. and world war 3 is already in progress already on its early start.

The Anglo/Zionists and their followers don't care about Islam, they are just an easy proxy army. It just so happens that more than 60% of the World’s reserves of crude oil lie in Muslim lands. The Anglo/Zionist agenda is based around acquiring ownership and control over the World’s oil/gas reserves, they are in the process of dividing and conquer the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, China you name it, to plunder the resources. They pick on the countries with the weakest military first, and start up NGO coordinated rebel groups, leading to a civil war, once war is on the plunder gets easy.

The creation of the "Axis of Evil" was like a business plan for the US, not some in depth analysis of world trouble spots that happened to be all Islam, Afghanistan was to let the pipeline project though the Taliban were blocking, Iraq, Lybia, Syria are about plundering oil and a bit more land for the Zionists, Ukraine was about gas, coal, top fertile lands, the list goes on, when in doubt, follow the money trail, these things are worth a fortune.

Erk wrote:
The Anglo/Zionists and their followers don't care about Islam, they are just an easy proxy army. It just so happens that more than 60% of the World’s reserves of crude oil lie in Muslim lands. The Anglo/Zionist agenda is based around acquiring ownership and control over the World’s oil/gas reserves, they are in the process of dividing and conquer the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, China you name it, to plunder the resources. They pick on the countries with the weakest military first, and start up NGO coordinated rebel groups, leading to a civil war, once war is on the plunder gets easy.

- Ernie.

Top analysis. Ukraine is a prime example.

Erk wrote:

The Anglo/Zionists and their followers don't care about Islam, they are just an easy proxy army. It just so happens that more than 60% of the World’s reserves of crude oil lie in Muslim lands. The Anglo/Zionist agenda is based around acquiring ownership and control over the World’s oil/gas reserves, they are in the process of dividing and conquer the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, China you name it, to plunder the resources. They pick on the countries with the weakest military first, and start up NGO coordinated rebel groups, leading to a civil war, once war is on the plunder gets easy.

The western elites are atheist..and some even have said satanist. whatever the case is..
they don't believe in anything. So personally they dont care about Islam..but at the strategic level they do care A LOT. They use any tool they find that could allow them to weaken and taken control of any nation.  and right now Islam is that tool ,that is very effective for them ,to create violence and chaos in the middle east and Europe.  In Ukraine not being part of Europe yet.. did not have the mass migration of Muslins ,that Europe had. few muslins there ,So they used there the UltraNationals so called nazis. that somehow managed to get allies with tatars..     What a crazy union indeed.. but money can do anything. But on a world wide level .. Islam is the most effectively tool for them to destroy nations. There are reports already from Veterans Today of many ISIS fighters exported by poroshenko to Ukraine front line to fight Russia. So the people of novorosiya in any new Kiev offensive needs to be prepared for suicide bombers and all kind of terrorism there.. including chemical weapons..etc.

So US imperialism can use Muslins to create violence in Europe to blackmail countries becoming
too cooperative with Russia interest (like france and Germany). and also can use Ultra right wing Nazis to keep the violence going. Any factions that is very explosive and very intolerant
and sectarian to other groups can be useful for american imperialism . And ironically Christianity as crazy and hollywood this sound ,is the major threat for American Imperialism. Is the religion of peace . an ideology that promotes freedom and independence and promote tolerance to others that think different.. Christianity is not a good environment for American Empire to exist ,that depends on fear and violence and people ignorance and repression for they to take control of it.

JohninMK wrote:

Erk wrote:
The Anglo/Zionists and their followers don't care about Islam, they are just an easy proxy army. It just so happens that more than 60% of the World’s reserves of crude oil lie in Muslim lands. The Anglo/Zionist agenda is based around acquiring ownership and control over the World’s oil/gas reserves, they are in the process of dividing and conquer the Middle East, Ukraine, Russia, China you name it, to plunder the resources. They pick on the countries with the weakest military first, and start up NGO coordinated rebel groups, leading to a civil war, once war is on the plunder gets easy.

- Ernie.

Top analysis. Ukraine is a prime example.

naaah  just quoting of Starikov   . more seriously if you do not read his books (there are also English translations I do recommend)


As for Russia - too much pessimism Russia is not so defenseless and western elites so powerful otherwise war was lost long time ago and somehow is not.

a) for US multipolar world is an unacceptable option - then they have to live on their means what means  crisis on level of 30s, civil unrest maybe war

b) China India are biggest supporters of muitpolar world and thus political objectives are not far from Russia´s

c) Current economical policy was evidently set on not irritating west but speeding rearmament. Now economy growth has more and more priority and this will happen as well. I hope Glazyev will have more to say in govt soon.

d) Not only Us but in genral west is running out of time... they cannot live indefinitely over their means... what I can see being in West is that people do not realize that all austerity measures are not bottom. this is only slowing down pace of borrowing money...imagine what happens when much more austerity comes to pay back debts? IMHO whole hype about warming/sustainable growth is just preparation f folks to "correction" of level of live in west to level thys really produce.

Hahaha turned out that in communist block level was much better with safer life but idiots colonized mentally thought that in the west everybody has Mercedes Benz and "a  black servant waiting with coffee on mansion entrance"



@col Vann7
I would be glad to see about source death penalty for conversion in Iran apart from western media. Let me remind you thet those media spread BS about Kim throwing members his entourage to hungry dogs and terminally ill Putin with 2-3 months left something like 2years ago.

So ISIS counter attacked and captured Mahin again. I think SAA will go down in history as one of the worst armies ever, totally corrupt, with basically no will to fight. Second of all russian airstrikes are doing no good, all we keep hearing is how ISIS is falling apart etc. This war can't be won anymore, it could of been won 2 years ago, now these airstrikes are to no use. The SAA basically dont exist.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:@col Vann7
I would be glad to see about source death penalty for conversion in Iran apart from western media. Let me remind you thet those media spread BS about Kim throwing members his entourage to hungry dogs and terminally ill Putin with 2-3 months left something like 2years ago.

Ah yes, good times.
I remember the other leading theory when Putin disappeared for about a week over some alledged back operation or something - that he was actually deposed in a 'palace coup', and under house arrest in his residence like Gorby was in 1991.
US Propaganda - it delivers

Mind you, ours is not any better. Looking at Sputnik News today - it just seems to get worse with every month, it's now at Pravda-like levels of BS and quasi-fabrication, interesting to see how low it will keep sinking.
And to think it once used to be RIA Novosti, where I went to frequent to get objective news and read balanced opinion pieces.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:
@col Vann7
I would be glad to see about source death penalty for conversion in Iran apart from western media. Let me remind you thet those media spread BS about Kim throwing members his entourage to hungry dogs and terminally ill Putin with 2-3 months left something like 2years ago.

http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/can-a-catholic-practice-in-iran

Europeans and Russians are not supposed to know this.


The most unconvenient question you can make a muslin is..
how can Islam be a religion of peace or tolerance if converting to christianity ( or any
other religion) for a muslin is punished with death penalty in the major muslin nations?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZiJehMXBpQ

This is why i say ,if US empire don't collapse in 5 to 10 years.. Europe will become
a muslin continent because the are using Islam as a weapon for control of the world .and the next world war 4 will be a religious one.. Secularity vs Islam. With Neozionist powers backing islam ,but of course is will be an opportunistic alliance.
not because necons or zionist are religious at all.

Monarchist wrote:So ISIS counter attacked and captured Mahin again. I think SAA will go down in history as one of the worst armies ever, totally corrupt, with basically no will to fight. Second of all russian airstrikes are doing no good, all we keep hearing is how ISIS is falling apart etc. This war can't be won anymore, it could of been won 2 years ago, now these airstrikes are to no use. The SAA basically dont exist.

if the supply lines are cut.. it will end easily.. no food you die. no ammunition you can't fight.

Vann7 wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:
@col Vann7
I would be glad to see about source death penalty for conversion in Iran apart from western media. Let me remind you thet those media spread BS about Kim throwing members his entourage to hungry dogs and terminally ill Putin with 2-3 months left something like 2years ago.

http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/can-a-catholic-practice-in-iran

Europeans and Russians are not supposed to know this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZiJehMXBpQ

This is why i say ,if US empire don't collapse in 5 to 10 years.. Europe will become
a muslin continent and the next world war 4 will be a religious one.. Secularity vs Islam.
With Neozionist powers backing islam ,but of course is will be an opportunistic alliance.
not because necons or zionist are religious at all.

With all respect due Vann, bustedhalo is well say "moderately" reliable source. Not that author lives on US propaganda for US money (" Neela Kale is a writer and catechetical minister based in the. Archdiocese of Portland."

I´d prefer ot listen to Iranian living in Iran or Vatican sources.

As for Islam - somehow thousand s of years in Lebanon,Syria or Iraq were Christians and Muslims and were mass genocides religious wars? not that I heard of . Is there anywhere in Islam said you need to kill for faith?

My point is imperialism and zionistas ( what is synonym for neocons) are using social/evolutionary biology science many young males = war more probable, scarcity of resources) to play card of hatery. The goal has been always the same -resources.


BTW one of suicide bombers in Paris was a club girl kinda crack-wh##e who actually never read Quran...

The Turkish media were afraid that the Russian troops "surrounding" Turkey

MOSCOW, 9 Dec – RIA Novosti. After the aggravation of Russian-Turkish relations because of the incident with the Russian su-24shot down Turkish air force in the skies over Syria, Turkish media fear that the Russian military "surround Turkey", writes the edition of Hurriyet Daily News.
The portal refers to public sources, provided by the Russian defense Ministry, which has repeatedly emphasized that actions to strengthen positions of the Russian military focused exclusively on the fight against terrorists banned in Russia organization of IG (DAYS in the Arabic version – ed.) and not

Defense Ministry: Russia has increased its military base in Armenia by helicopters
Thus, the publication gives the example of a recent deployment of helicopter gunships Mi-24 and Mi-8 transport helicopters at Erebuni airbase near the capital of Armenia.


РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20151209/1339281072.html#ixzz3tv6VnRwR

flamming_python wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:@col Vann7
I would be glad to see about source death penalty for conversion in Iran apart from western media. Let me remind you thet those media spread BS about Kim throwing members his entourage to hungry dogs and terminally ill Putin with 2-3 months left something like 2years ago.

Ah yes, good times.
I remember the other leading theory when Putin disappeared for about a week over some alledged back operation or something - that he was actually deposed in a 'palace coup', and under house arrest in his residence like Gorby was in 1991.
US Propaganda - it delivers

Mind you, ours is not any better. Looking at Sputnik News today - it just seems to get worse with every month, it's now at Pravda-like levels of BS and quasi-fabrication, interesting to see how low it will keep sinking.
And to think it once used to be RIA Novosti, where I went to frequent to get objective news and read balanced opinion pieces.

Sputnik ru or en edition? but yes sometimes analyst says and some guy from " whenever" is calling himself THE analyst says something like reversed NGO BS. But apparently this is better working that truth or facts for intelligent life forms.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

As for Islam - somehow thousand s of years  in Lebanon,Syria  or Iraq were Christians and Muslims and were mass genocides religious wars? not that I heard of . Is there anywhere in Islam said you need to kill for faith?

My point is imperialism and zionistas ( what is synonym for  neocons) are using social/evolutionary biology  science many young males = war more probable, scarcity of resources)  to play card  of hatery. The goal has been always the same -resources.


BTW one of suicide bombers in Paris was a club girl kinda crack-wh##e who actually never read Quran...

Lebanon = real Secular
Syria = real Secular
IRAQ = no idea now.. since IRAN controls it.
IRAN,Saudi Arabia,Pakistan ,Moroccon.. non secular.

The "trick" of so called moderate nations that claim to be secular to not be seen
as a primitive nation in the international community is by allowing minorities ethnic groups
to practice its religion. So yes a christian catholic who goes to iran will not be killed. But go
and try to convert to Christianity any muslin and you will end either in jail or killed. Is a major offense against Islam. This is done because they don't want Islam to be eclipse by a more
forward looking religion. So Islam is imposed in muslins nations literary on every natural citizens at gun point. Such kind of culture cannot be called peaceful or secular or democratic.


The best way Europe to counter the European Muslin project .

SAA needs to get its act together.

Mark
‏@markito0171
@markito0171 Exodus of Christians from Sadad town after IS seized #Mahin

They seem to lack any skill or willingness to entrench and fortify their positions.

https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/674940560071745539

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Alawites hold a set of beliefs that se tthem apart from all Muslims

1. They believe in trinity - Allah, Ali and Muhammad (for any Muslim that is blasphemy)
2. They believe in reincarnation
3. They are monogamous
4. They believe men and women are equal.
5. By far the most important  -they don't follow Sharia.

Alawites claim they're Shia Muslims  -but non of their beliefs is even close to Islam. They are more similar to gnostic Christians.

Alawites don't follow Sharia? Tell me please then why the Alawites themselves have Islamic courts, do pray 5 times and do partake in pilgrimages to Karbala?

Typical alwite thinking until the 20th century regarded women as soulless temptations. It's because of Baath ideology that women became involved.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Alawites hold a set of beliefs that se tthem apart from all Muslims

1. They believe in trinity - Allah, Ali and Muhammad (for any Muslim that is blasphemy)
2. They believe in reincarnation
3. They are monogamous
4. They believe men and women are equal.
5. By far the most important  -they don't follow Sharia.

Alawites claim they're Shia Muslims  -but non of their beliefs is even close to Islam. They are more similar to gnostic Christians.

Alawites don't follow Sharia? Tell me please then why the Alawites themselves have Islamic courts, do pray 5 times and do partake in pilgrimages to Karbala?

Typical alwite thinking until the 20th century regarded women as soulless temptations. It's because of Baath ideology that women became involved.

alawites along with some other groups in the ME are not muslims but hide behind a cloak of "islam" to avoid persecution by the muslims... its a centuries old phenomenon. in fact the only reason nowadays alawites in syria have some outward muslim practices is due to them being in power and trying to fit in with the sunni muslim majority.

alawites dont read quran or go to mecca pilgrimage or have islamic prayer. similar to druze, shabaiks, yazidis and other "ghulat" groups who, for self preservation, pretend to be muslim to outsiders.