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    Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Dima on Mon May 16, 2016 8:25 am

    Isnt that 2A65 Msta-B in the background?

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Militarov on Mon May 16, 2016 8:35 am

    Dima wrote:Isnt that 2A65 Msta-B in the background?

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    Yeah, MSTA-s

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Militarov on Mon May 16, 2016 9:00 am



    Serbian mortar grenades in Aleppo

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Neutrality on Mon May 16, 2016 11:43 am

    Dima wrote:
    I know that dear, but the problem is outside of Russia no one knows about Russian products (except those who go after searching for Russian products) and Russia hardly have any promotional stuff which reach the masses around the world. As an example I had years earlier searched for a Russian music home theater system just for getting a feel of the Russian designed/manufactured acoustic system considering that Russia have pretty advanced research in that field. I even finally managed to find (a feat for someone outside of Russia) one but there was no online sales and delivery to my location.
    We can talk a lot about the civilian stuff/consumer goods...as there are a lot to talk about and the revamp needed...but I leave it now.

    I don't know even know where to begin. Diversification and specialisition has led to what we call the world economy today. Seriously, we went over this in 10th grade in high school. A long time ago countries tried to produce everything that was in commerce back then, things like cotton, wool, wood, coal, etc. A good example will be Great Britain which produced silk but after a while couldn't compete with countries in South East Asia simply because Asia had major amounts of the good and a large supply of manpower. This went on for a long time until countries over the world decided that it would be beneficial to everyone to specialize in certain goods. All this has been mathemtically proven and taken into account by important figures like Smith and Keynes.

    Now take everything that I have written and apply it to Russia. Why should Russia start heavily investing money into those sectors that were never important before and thus guaranteed to lose money on? Instead, it should concentrate and specialize on those sectors of the economy that always played a big role. Think the aerospace, nuclear, shipbuilding, IT, defense and heavy machine industries. Another very promising one is the agricultural industry where Siberia will play a major role due to global warming in which all that land will become arable. The "free-hectare-for-all-Russians" law which was just signed by Putin was IMHO specifically for this reason.

    MS-21 and the Angara project are my personal favorites. MS-21 alone has already over 150 firm orders and I can only imagine what it's going to be like when the jetliner proves itself on the world market.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon May 16, 2016 12:22 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    Dima wrote:
    I know that dear, but the problem is outside of Russia no one knows about Russian products (except those who go after searching for Russian products) and Russia hardly have any promotional stuff which reach the masses around the world. As an example I had years earlier searched for a Russian music home theater system just for getting a feel of the Russian designed/manufactured acoustic system considering that Russia have pretty advanced research in that field. I even finally managed to find (a feat for someone outside of Russia) one but there was no online sales and delivery to my location.
    We can talk a lot about the civilian stuff/consumer goods...as there are a lot to talk about and the revamp needed...but I leave it now.

    I don't know even know where to begin. Diversification and specialisition has led to what we call the world economy today. Seriously, we went over this in 10th grade in high school. A long time ago countries tried to produce everything that was in commerce back then, things like cotton, wool, wood, coal, etc. A good example will be Great Britain which produced silk but after a while couldn't compete with countries in South East Asia simply because Asia had major amounts of the good and a large supply of manpower. This went on for a long time until countries over the world decided that it would be beneficial to everyone to specialize in certain goods. All this has been mathemtically proven and taken into account by important figures like Smith and Keynes.

    Now take everything that I have written and apply it to Russia. Why should Russia start heavily investing money into those sectors that were never important before and thus guaranteed to lose money on? Instead, it should concentrate and specialize on those sectors of the economy that always played a big role. Think the aerospace, nuclear, shipbuilding, IT, defense and heavy machine industries. Another very promising one is the agricultural industry where Siberia will play a major role due to global warming in which all that land will become arable. The "free-hectare-for-all-Russians" law which was just signed by Putin was IMHO specifically for this reason.

    MS-21 and the Angara project are my personal favorites. MS-21 alone has already over 150 firm orders and I can only imagine what it's going to be like when the jetliner proves itself on the world market.

    consumer electronics would not hurt either tho...not sure what they taught you in 10class but apparently Koreans did not hear this and started with mobiles, cars and recently with planes...

    and afaik neither Keynes nor Smith considered country in war time and without colonies as UK/US can specialize forcing others to transfer goodies/capital from colonies to metropoly.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Neutrality on Mon May 16, 2016 1:05 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:

    consumer electronics would not hurt neither tho...not sure what they taught you in 10class but apparently Koreans did not hear this and started with mobiles, cars and recently with planes...

    There are domestic brands which are low profile, just have to do your own research. South Korea has always been within Western sphere of influence and it was never difficult for them to push through on the international level, plus no one tries nor tried to sabotage them through sanctions. Something that the USSR had to deal with in the past and recently Russia. And a wide global reach of certain products (obviously through export) is exactly that decides everything.

    You're most definitely wrong on the car argument. Lada, regardless of its reputation, has many clients outside of Russia (even in Europe). I have no idea about these South Korean planes that you're talking about so please elaborate.

    Did you know that the South Korean Naro-1 project is derived from the Angara's URM-1 first stage? So again, do some research first.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  calm on Mon May 16, 2016 4:48 pm

    Another terrorists attack on DEZ crushed.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  George1 on Mon May 16, 2016 4:50 pm

    disgusting indeed..


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  calm on Mon May 16, 2016 5:36 pm

    Ok, soldiers doing their thing with all those selfies, but Issam Zahreddine is a major general of the Syrian Republican Guar, he should skip those selfies.
    Same goes for Suheil Al Hassan(kweiris pictures)
    But all this is kind of arab folklore, they just have to do it...

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon May 16, 2016 6:01 pm

    DEZ is very personal for most these guys. You have to understand that most the garrison was(is?) Alawite and they're surrounded by Sunnis, who accept protection only because ISIS is the alternative.
    It's very personal and close.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  calm on Mon May 16, 2016 6:19 pm

    (+18 video) Large number of ISIS fighters killed after failed attack / Deir ez Zor
    Crazy, they just can't breach defenses of the city.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 16, 2016 6:27 pm

    Neutrality wrote: I have no idea about these South Korean planes that you're talking about so please elaborate.

    Did you know that the South Korean Naro-1 project is derived from the Angara's URM-1 first stage? So again, do some research first.
    Ummm, glasshouse throw stones!

    Just Google 'South Korean fighter exports' to bring up the KA-50 and the future K-FX. Also Lockheed Martin has chosen the Korean plane, over its own development, to bid for the forthcoming USAF trainer requirement.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Neutrality on Mon May 16, 2016 8:47 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Ummm, glasshouse throw stones!

    Just Google 'South Korean fighter exports' to bring up the KA-50 and the future K-FX. Also Lockheed Martin has chosen the Korean plane, over its own development, to bid for the forthcoming USAF trainer requirement.

    I thought we were clearly talking about civilian aircraft? Or is this guy trying to say that the Russians can't compete with the Koreans on the jetfighter market? Well if he truly believes that then I suggest to lay off the crack.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue May 17, 2016 1:49 am

    calm wrote:Another terrorists attack on DEZ  crushed.

    Extremely graphic content 18+


    Deir ez-Zor: City of brotherly love

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  flamming_python on Tue May 17, 2016 2:32 am

    Russian Home Theatre system

    Wut.

    Actually there were a couple of factories in the Soviet era producing some very good audio-electronic equipment of all kinds, especially speakers. They're still prized today.
    All gone now though. Like dust in the wind. Moreover I think that industry was based in Latvia and Estonia chiefly.

    Probably whatever you found is just someone trying to swindle you with relabeled cheap Chinese junk.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  sepheronx on Tue May 17, 2016 4:03 am

    Nah, there was some mentioned on sdelanounas a couple years ago of a company who started making wood grained cased high end audio equipment. They were even using newer vacuum tube tech and all of that. Expensive as all hell though (thousands of $$). And now some other company is making headsets too.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue May 17, 2016 1:17 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Russian Home Theatre system
    Wut.
    Actually there were a couple of factories in the Soviet era producing some very good audio-electronic equipment of all kinds, especially speakers. They're still prized today.
    All gone now though. Like dust in the wind. Moreover I think that industry was based in Latvia and Estonia chiefly.
    Probably whatever you found is just someone trying to swindle you with relabeled cheap Chinese junk.
    sepheronx wrote:Nah, there was some mentioned on sdelanounas a couple years ago of a company who started making wood grained cased high end audio equipment.  They were even using newer vacuum tube tech and all of that.  Expensive as all hell though (thousands of $$).  And now some other company is making headsets too.
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    Yeah I have also been seeing articles about some pretty high-end audio and other stuff being designed and made in Russia however this is not consumer gear but more of a high-end luxury items for professionals and aficionados. Naturally it is all built in small series. And don't get me started on prices.

    As for other electronics, stuff is definitely being made. How much depends on investors and business climate at any given day. Same as everywhere else, nothing new there.  



    Back on topic:

    Somewhat graphic  Exclamation

    "Kurd #FSA fighter "Jamel Karmo" assassinated 2 #YPG commanders as a response of #YPG parading bodies of killed #FSA."

    https://twitter.com/archicivilians/status/732445158721998848

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  ultron on Tue May 17, 2016 1:55 pm

    Terrorists captured Fardis village in southern Hama today. SAA is a joke. Cannot hold ground without Russian planes over their heads. Putin just gave Assad the middle finger and showed him who is boss

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Dima on Tue May 17, 2016 3:41 pm

    A short but good report capturing what it was outside and inside of Palmyra amphitheater.
    Published on May 7, 2016

    Hundreds of Syrian people arrived in Palmyra on Friday, excited to see what’s the city like after its liberation from IS terrorists, and to attend a huge event, a celebration of victory on Palmyra’s ancient amphitheater.
    http://me-channel.com/


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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Dima on Tue May 17, 2016 4:26 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Nah, there was some mentioned on sdelanounas a couple years ago of a company who started making wood grained cased high end audio equipment. They were even using newer vacuum tube tech and all of that. Expensive as all hell though (thousands of $$). And now some other company is making headsets too.
    Below is the pic of the system I mentioned. This was the image I found and saved from that website. Its a pic from 2012. I couldn't find anymore details on that system online so had kept it aside after that initial steam.



    Is it the same one you found on sdelanounas report?
    Btw, do you have a link to that report?

    Actually, the search (not that I've been searching for it all these years) for a Russian music/sound system has been in my thoughts ever since I read an article/report (probably dating to the 90s) about how western companies have made use of the acoustic research done by the Russian institutes for naval projects in their commercial product(s). Even the music system that I found was not from any commercial site, but was probably from the website of a research institute.

    I can't find the link to the system now and seems like I lost it and most of the bookmarked links after "updating/refreshing" Mozilla sometime back. I had so many bookmarks just for stuffs from Russia like Rus industries, Rus optics, Rus consumer, Rus medical etc in addition to the military bookmarks, lost most of the links.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  Dima on Tue May 17, 2016 4:48 pm

    M Green ‏@MmaGreen May 15
    Survivors of the Al Zara massacre in Homs recount what they went through at the hands of the 'moderate rebels'
    https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/731884154107744256

    The moderate scums killed two Kurdish/YPG peace negotiators.

    Lina Arabi ‏@LinaArabii 15 hours ago
    As rebels & Kurds reportedly work on finalising a "peace agreement" in northern Aleppo.. (Graphic video)
    Serge ‏@Zinvor 20 hours ago
    FSA footage of rebel executing two Kurds inside a house in Azaz. Rebel lets wounded woman bleed to death on floor.
    https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/732278536392835072

    He wants you to know that the executed Kurds were YPG officers because then it would be OK for FSA to execute them.
    https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/732308746341257216

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  ultron on Tue May 17, 2016 5:21 pm

    De Mistura is an American puppet. He wants to airdrop arms to terrorists   Shocked

    https://twitter.com/nour_bakr/status/732557615939620865

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  sepheronx on Tue May 17, 2016 5:22 pm

    Dima wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Nah, there was some mentioned on sdelanounas a couple years ago of a company who started making wood grained cased high end audio equipment.  They were even using newer vacuum tube tech and all of that.  Expensive as all hell though (thousands of $$).  And now some other company is making headsets too.
    Below is the pic of the system I mentioned. This was the image I found and saved from that website. Its a pic from 2012. I couldn't find anymore details on that system online so had kept it aside after that initial steam.



    Is it the same one you found on sdelanounas report?
    Btw, do you have a link to that report?

    Actually, the search (not that I've been searching for it all these years) for a Russian music/sound system has been in my thoughts ever since I read an article/report (probably dating to the 90s) about how western companies have made use of the acoustic research done by the Russian institutes for naval projects in their commercial product(s). Even the music system that I found was not from any commercial site, but was probably from the website of a research institute.  

    I can't find the link to the system now and seems like I lost it and most of the bookmarked links after "updating/refreshing" Mozilla sometime back. I had so many bookmarks just for stuffs from Russia like Rus industries, Rus optics, Rus consumer, Rus medical etc in addition to the military bookmarks, lost most of the links.

    I'll do research when I'm back home. Two end speakers sure look it.

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    Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8

    Post  ultron on Tue May 17, 2016 5:50 pm

    Kerry talks peace while sending thousands of TOW missiles to terrorists. Classic Sun Tzu.

    Reports of intense fighting at the northern gate of Palmyra. Thank god Russian are there now. Or else SAA would have lost Palmyra. SAA is a joke. Soldiers who are not religious are no match for soldiers who are religious. That's why early kings made religion. So that their soldiers are brave in battle.

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