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    Syrian Civil War: News #4

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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:50 am

    ^^^

    Yeah, that about sums up the position of the EU I think
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    Post  Guest Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:12 am

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9d4_1448188374

    "[i]THE SYRIAN AL-QAEDA GROUP “JABHAT AL-NUSRA” HAS POSTED A NEW VIDEO VIA THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS IN ORDER TO ISSUE A “THANK YOU” TO THEIR ALLIES FROM THE U.S. BACKED “FREE SYRIAN ARMY” (FSA) FOR SUPPLYING THEIR JIHADIST FIGHTERS WITH THE U.S. MANUFACTURED ANTI-TANK TOW MISSILES.

    In the video, a Jabhat Al-Nusra field commander is thanking one of his comrades from the U.S. backed Free Syrian Army for providing these anti-tank TOW missiles that succored the Al-Qaeda affiliated group against the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) large tank battalions in northern Syria.


    For several months, the Free Syrian Army and Jabhat Al-Nusra have colluded together at almost every single battle in the Aleppo, Latakia, Hama, and Idlib Governorates of Syria; this Islamist pact eventually turned into a conglomerate of rebel forces that was known “Jaysh Al-Fateh” (Army of Conquest). Through Jaysh Al-Fateh, groups like Jabhat Al-Nusra and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham have been given access to the Free Syrian Army’s heavy weaponry that was manufactured in the U.S. and provided by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Jabhat Al-Nusra and the Free Syrian Army are very close with one another, as they coordinate on the battlefield and share the same trenches – they even share control over the villages they capture together."
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:40 am

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1617742.html

    At a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the evening on 8 December 2015, the Minister of defence of Russia Sergey Shoigu, in addition to messages about the attack on targets of terrorists in Syria with cruise missiles, sea-based complex "Caliber-SUBMARINE" a submarine "Rostov-on-don", also saidthat "in the past three days, Russian aircraft, including strategic bombers Tu-22, flew more than 300 sorties and struck more than 600 of the objectives of different nature". "All flights are accompanied by a fighter aircraft – Sukhoi su-30", – said Sergey Shoigu.

    According to the Ministry of defense of Russia in the official video about these actions, long-range bombers Tu-22 m3 took off from the airfield of Mozdok.

    Somebody asked where is Russian AF...Shoigu answered Smile

    Russian MoD th of Dec



    RT 8th Dec Sukhois in Syria




    and here TV Russia 24 7th Dec




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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:00 am

    Su-24 black box:

    The President has ordered the defense Minister to open the parametric recorder with su-24 shot down Turkish air force, only in the presence of international experts. "As for parametric Grapher, we now see it. It's been opened?" - asked Putin at a meeting with the Minister of defence. "I ask you not to open, and to open it only in conjunction with foreign experts, all carefully locked," he instructed the President. Transcript parametric campestanol to determine the exact trajectory of its movement, and where was he at the time of destruction, said the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.

    Syrian Civil War: News #4 - Page 33 1449602301_putin-shoygu

    Источник: http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/65046-parametricheskiy-samopisec-sbitogo-su-24-obnaruzhen-i-predstavlen-prezidentu-rf.html
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    how now ministry of truth form fashington will deny of gay wolves ambush?



    Launching cruise missiles from a submarine "Rostov-on-don" on targets of terrorists in Syria
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1617651.html





    BTW Price of crude going below 40 is again next level of aggression against Russia. Is this because fashington junta is getting short of time before inevitable collapse?

    I hope Russian/Iran more intensively support Houtis in Yemen so Sudis are eliminated


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:59 am


    You are reading too much into oil price. Besides, I am sure Saudis and Qataris are very happy with new oil price and they can always go back to agriculture and industry....oh wait... lol1



    ALSO:

    thumbsup

    ''Syria rebels begin evacuating last Homs district under deal''

    http://news.yahoo.com/syria-rebels-begin-evacuating-last-homs-district-under-063756692.html
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:20 pm

    Guards missile cruiser "Varyag", who is currently in India involved in Russian-Indian naval exercise "Indra" will go to Syria.


    Источник: http://politikus.ru/army/65070-rossiya-napravit-v-siriyu-raketnyy-kreyser-varyag.html
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    subs, 2 cruisers...stakes get higher


    are igil criminals going to Libya?
    An interesting hypothesis was recently raised, Jafar Handbase – Iranian expert on the countries of North Africa. He suggested that the coming steps of the Islamic State will be associated with the expansion in Libya, probably near the town of Sirte
    The assumption is actually interesting. Because, as we have seen, VKS RF, there are now quite successfully, and pinpoint strikes on the positions of the Islamic State not only threatened the existence of terrorists, but also made me think about the competence of Western States in the fight against extremists. The main prerequisites to mass migration of terrorists in Africa can be called for two reasons: oil and VKS RF. The terrorists of the IG, who called their order the service of Allah and adherence to the fundamental principles of Islam, in fact, have nothing to do with Islam itself, and Allah never asked you to kill for him. Therefore, it is the usual gang of bandits, who does not fight for independence or the desire to defend their rights, they fight for other purposes.

    Источник: http://politikus.ru/events/65091-vks-rossii-zastavlyaet-ig-pereehat-v-liviyu.html
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    Well such a shame what poor Erdogan jr will odd now? he has to hire tankers !


    PapaDragon wrote:
    You are reading too much into oil price. Besides, I am sure Saudis and Qataris are very happy with new oil price and they can always go back to agriculture and industry....oh wait... lol1
    Saudis or Qatar goes down? (w)hookers   Twisted Evil  

    Sad that there is little lever on Qatar  attack
    From the other hand maybe this would finally  force Russia govt ot listen to Glazyev?   Smile




    PapaDragon wrote:
    ALSO:

    thumbsup

    ''Syria rebels begin evacuating last Homs district under deal''

    http://news.yahoo.com/syria-rebels-begin-evacuating-last-homs-district-under-063756692.html

    Apparently terrain gains is more important that killing scum - now Kerry wants immediate ceasefire (with whom ISIS?)[/quote]
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:34 pm

    Matvienko: Russia is ready to take measures to close the border of Turkey and Syria

    RIA NOVOSTI THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION PREPARED WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF MILITARY COOPERATION WITH FRANCE, IRAQ, JORDAN TO TAKE MEASURES TO ENSURE THE CLOSURE OF THE BORDER BETWEEN TURKEY AND SYRIA — MATVIYENKO

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20151209/1338955874.html#ixzz3tp1pRrDg


    even better below:

    RIA NOVOSTI THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION KNOWS ABOUT THE USE OF TURKISH TERRITORY TO TRADE WITH IG AND OF TRAINING MILITANTS FOR OPERATIONS NOT ONLY IN SYRIA BUT ALSO IN THE NORTH CAUCASUS – LAVROV

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20151209/1338976058.html#ixzz3tpMcpTM8




    HQs of the Russian Federation in Syria in the past day attacked the 204 objects
    16:0609.12.20150

    MOSCOW, 9 Dec — RIA Novosti. Russian aircraft of the air group for Air and space forces (VKS) Russia in Syria over the past day has made 82 sorties from an airbase "Hamim", inflicting air strikes on 204 targets of the terrorists, said Wednesday the official representative of the Ministry of defense of Russia major-General Igor Konashenkov.

    "For the past day the planes of Air and space forces of Russia completed 82 sorties on 204 targets of the terrorists in the Syrian Arab Republic, located in the provinces of Aleppo, Idlib, Latakia, Hama and HOMS. With 32 sorties by Russian planes is made at night", — said the representative of the defense Ministry.

    Combat missions in Syria on facilities of the terrorist group "Islamic state" (in the Arabic version of DAIS prohibited in Russia) make the su-24M, su-25SM and su-34. All flights of bombers and attack aircraft cover the su-30.

    Konashenkov noted that after combat missions all aircraft of the Russian air group successfully returned to the base Hamim.



    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_mission/20151209/1339039814.html#ixzz3tpRNAGQP


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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:45 pm

    No signs that rebels took Banes (apart from some tweets yesterday).
    Also SAA and friends seem to be still fighting for Al Zerbah, anyone has proof that town is taken?
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    Post  Monarchist Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:01 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html#v-1005669583935587312

    No need for conspiracy theories, just solid proof. Israel is an ally of the wahabists, it's been since the start of the conflict.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:34 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    RIA NOVOSTI THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION KNOWS ABOUT THE USE OF TURKISH TERRITORY TO TRADE WITH IG AND OF TRAINING MILITANTS FOR OPERATIONS NOT ONLY IN SYRIA BUT ALSO IN THE NORTH CAUCASUS – LAVROV

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20151209/1338976058.html#ixzz3tpMcpTM8

    [/quote]

    wow.. Smile

    This is really a big one.. Shocked

    In other words second man  ,and top diplomat of Russia ,and most trusted by all Russians
    and political parties.. is right there preparing the Russian Federation citizens for a justification
    of Russia starting a major war against Turkey if ,they take the decision to do it.. and they continue the aggression against Russia.

    Hopefully now Russian citizens will stop traveling to Turkey that helps their economy
    so that they can buy more weapons and send more terrorist to kill Russian citizens No

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    Post  Monarchist Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:56 pm

    Reports coming that al-zerbeh and khan thouman have been captured in south aleppo.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:07 pm

    Monarchist wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html#v-1005669583935587312

    No need for conspiracy theories, just solid proof. Israel is an ally of the wahabists, it's been since the start of the conflict.
    Yup, that is the Israeli AF CasEvac system saving terrorists. And they allowed it to be filmed!!!
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    Post  Kadmos45 Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:13 pm

    Pretty good summary article on Syrian war :

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/09/destroying-syria-to-create-sunnistan/

    Destroying Syria to Create Sunnistan

    Some interesting excerpts:

    "the war on terror is a public relations fig leaf designed to conceal Washington’s attempt to rule the world. It’s impossible to make sense of goings-on around the globe without some grasp of how seemingly random acts of violence and terror fit within the broader and more comprehensive geopolitical strategy to create a new unipolar world order, to crush all emerging rivals, and to extend US full-spectrum-dominance across the planet."


    "The message the US military is sending with these lethal attacks is that it wants to control the air-space over east Syria where it plans to remove ISIS and establish a de facto Sunni state consistent with its scheme to break Syria and Iraq into smaller cantons governed by local warlords, Islamic fanatics, and US puppets. "


    "Turkey’s invasion of Iraq signals the beginning of a long-term occupation that will likely expand to Mosul. This will establish a critical beachhead for controlling resources and pipeline corridors that will keep the oil flowing through Turkey and on to the southern port of Ceyhan."


    "First of all, there is no way that Turkey launched the incursion without first getting the thumbs-up from Washington. We all know how violently the Obama administration reacted when Moscow defended Crimea following the CIA-backed coup in Kiev. "


    " it looks like an agreement has been struck between Turkey, the KRG and the United States to seize parts of northern Iraq and eastern Syria to create a de facto Sunni state that will be jointly-controlled by Ankara and Washington.
    "


    Pretty much spot on. The master plan on entire war now is to create some freaky sunni IS(lamic)rael inside non sunni triangle (Syria,Iran, Iraq ). So they can steal oil "legally" and further destabilize this region.

    And about Barzani's KRG , pic that says more than thousands words:
    Syrian Civil War: News #4 - Page 33 Photo


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    Post  Vann7 Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:45 pm

    Another slap in the face of trolls..



    The Russian MoD with help of Syrian army have started a probe and will release evidence that the US coalition weapons were used in the attack in the Syrian base. That will put and end all the conspiracies that the Russian military does not know which targets they are bombing.  

    https://www.rt.com/news/325179-coalition-jets-syrian-army-attack/

    The attack according to Syrian military happened by "coincidence" after ISIS began an assault on Syrian army positions and began asking for help by radio . For anyone who have been following
    the conflict since 2011 is obvious US coalition is a fraud ,and they have been arming ISIS and other moderate terrorist groups since American NGOS and armed gangs began with the violence and unrest in Syria in 2011. IS not surprise that the first thing Obama blocked from Syria before any sanction was its media ,so people cannot be aware of the fake revolution that began from abroad.



    The message the US military is sending with these lethal attacks is that it wants to control the air-space over east Syria where it plans to remove ISIS and establish a de facto Sunni state consistent with its scheme to break Syria and Iraq into smaller cantons governed by local warlords, Islamic fanatics, and US puppets. "


    The sunni state alternative can be also in IRAQ near Syria border in Anbar region ,this is the place were Americans Airforce does NOT allow ,the IRAQ army to enter. Shocked  under the pretext that they are training people there.
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    Post  par far Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:03 pm

    Kadmos45 wrote:Pretty good summary article on Syrian war :

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/09/destroying-syria-to-create-sunnistan/

    Destroying Syria to Create Sunnistan

    Some interesting excerpts:

    "the war on terror is a public relations fig leaf designed to conceal Washington’s attempt to rule the world. It’s impossible to make sense of goings-on around the globe without some grasp of how seemingly random acts of violence and terror fit within the broader and more comprehensive geopolitical strategy to create a new unipolar world order, to crush all emerging rivals, and to extend US full-spectrum-dominance across the planet."


    "The message the US military is sending with these lethal attacks is that it wants to control the air-space over east Syria where it plans to remove ISIS and establish a de facto Sunni state consistent with its scheme to break Syria and Iraq into smaller cantons governed by local warlords, Islamic fanatics, and US puppets. "


    "Turkey’s invasion of Iraq signals the beginning of a long-term occupation that will likely expand to Mosul. This will establish a critical beachhead for controlling resources and pipeline corridors that will keep the oil flowing through Turkey and on to the southern port of Ceyhan."


    "First of all, there is no way that Turkey launched the incursion without first getting the thumbs-up from Washington. We all know how violently the Obama administration reacted when Moscow defended Crimea following the CIA-backed coup in Kiev. "


    " it looks like an agreement has been struck between Turkey, the KRG and the United States to seize parts of northern Iraq and eastern Syria to create a de facto Sunni state that will be jointly-controlled by Ankara and Washington.
    "


    Pretty much spot on. The master plan on entire war now is to create some freaky sunni IS(lamic)rael inside non sunni triangle (Syria,Iran, Iraq ). So they can steal oil "legally" and further destabilize this region.

    And about Barzani's KRG , pic that says more than thousands words:
    Syrian Civil War: News #4 - Page 33 Photo


    I have been saying this all along, this is what the Zionists wanted, if Iraq was smart they would ask Russia for help. Sunni's are sell outs and will sell their own mother if given the chance. Barzani's KRG are NATO assholes, always have been and will always be.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:10 pm

    Why should Kurds favor Russia? The thing KRG wants the most is the highest possible level of autonomy or independence - and KRG does not have reasons to favor Russia more than America - if history taught Kurds anything, it's that they can't trust their neighboors. US and Israel are not a danger to Kurds.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:15 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why should Kurds favor Russia? The thing KRG wants the most is the highest possible level of autonomy or independence - and KRG does not have reasons to favor Russia more than America - if history taught Kurds anything, it's that they can't trust their neighboors. US and Israel are not a danger to Kurds.

    Which Kurds we're talking about? KRG's current leadership is sold out to Turkey after they failed to back the Saddam guys after the Shia takeover.
    The Syrian Kurds, the PKK in all countries (Turkey, Iran, Syria) are very happy to have the Russians help them especially if that gives them a KRG style area in Turkey. Thing that clearly doesn't help the Syrian affair, but makes the Turkish meddling more costly. Also the PKK and the rest will not stop anyway, they will bust the Turks whenever they want or need to. So it's almost a free range.
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    Post  par far Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:34 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why should Kurds favor Russia? The thing KRG wants the most is the highest possible level of autonomy or independence - and KRG does not have reasons to favor Russia more than America - if history taught Kurds anything, it's that they can't trust their neighboors. US and Israel are not a danger to Kurds.

    Which Kurds we're talking about? KRG's current leadership is sold out to Turkey after they failed to back the Saddam guys after the Shia takeover.
    The Syrian Kurds, the PKK in all countries (Turkey, Iran, Syria) are very happy to have the Russians help them especially if that gives them a KRG style area in Turkey. Thing that clearly doesn't help the Syrian affair, but makes  the Turkish meddling more costly. Also the PKK and the rest will not stop anyway, they will bust the Turks whenever they want or need to. So it's almost a free range.



    What I don't get is, why is Russia not making things harder for Barzani's KRG? And why is Russia not arming the PKK and the Kurds that want to destroy Turkey?
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    Post  Kadmos45 Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:50 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why should Kurds favor Russia? The thing KRG wants the most is the highest possible level of autonomy or independence - and KRG does not have reasons to favor Russia more than America - if history taught Kurds anything, it's that they can't trust their neighboors.

    Russia is not  neighbour of KRG, Turkey is. And KRG is inviting Turkey on their territory so they cooperate with someone who can't be trusted .

    And the point is not why KRG should favor Russia. The thing is that Russia should not favor KRG in any way.


    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    US and Israel are not a danger to Kurds.

    Not really . US and Israel are allied with Turkey.  Turkey is enemy of Kurds but not of current KRG regime who is also buddy, buddy with IS incidentally.

    Also remember that Ocalan was kidnapped with help by Mossad and CIA.

    In Russia interests is to support PKK and other anti Turkey kurdish groups ( to make some probs for Erdown), along with most reasonable  elements of YPG (but not on US payroll)  to seal Syrian-Turkish border .
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:07 pm

    par far wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why should Kurds favor Russia? The thing KRG wants the most is the highest possible level of autonomy or independence - and KRG does not have reasons to favor Russia more than America - if history taught Kurds anything, it's that they can't trust their neighboors. US and Israel are not a danger to Kurds.

    Which Kurds we're talking about? KRG's current leadership is sold out to Turkey after they failed to back the Saddam guys after the Shia takeover.
    The Syrian Kurds, the PKK in all countries (Turkey, Iran, Syria) are very happy to have the Russians help them especially if that gives them a KRG style area in Turkey. Thing that clearly doesn't help the Syrian affair, but makes  the Turkish meddling more costly. Also the PKK and the rest will not stop anyway, they will bust the Turks whenever they want or need to. So it's almost a free range.



    What I don't get is, why is Russia not making things harder for Barzani's KRG? And why is Russia not arming the PKK and the Kurds that want to destroy Turkey?

    As I said to Petulant Mustafa, check the ammo and weapons from the latest PKK clips. Iranian ammo, rifles. Russian ammo, scopes, coms.

    You need to understand that Russia doesn't want to get tangled with the whole PKK deal. They've managed to help Yemen under the radar with "small" things, No need to show over with PKK. Yet they help. Also even INSIDE the KRG people hate Turkish guts, but they need the dough.

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    Post  par far Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:55 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    par far wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Why should Kurds favor Russia? The thing KRG wants the most is the highest possible level of autonomy or independence - and KRG does not have reasons to favor Russia more than America - if history taught Kurds anything, it's that they can't trust their neighboors. US and Israel are not a danger to Kurds.

    Which Kurds we're talking about? KRG's current leadership is sold out to Turkey after they failed to back the Saddam guys after the Shia takeover.
    The Syrian Kurds, the PKK in all countries (Turkey, Iran, Syria) are very happy to have the Russians help them especially if that gives them a KRG style area in Turkey. Thing that clearly doesn't help the Syrian affair, but makes  the Turkish meddling more costly. Also the PKK and the rest will not stop anyway, they will bust the Turks whenever they want or need to. So it's almost a free range.



    What I don't get is, why is Russia not making things harder for Barzani's KRG? And why is Russia not arming the PKK and the Kurds that want to destroy Turkey?

    As I said to Petulant Mustafa, check the ammo and weapons from the latest PKK clips. Iranian ammo, rifles. Russian ammo, scopes, coms.

    You need to understand that Russia doesn't want to get tangled with the whole PKK deal. They've managed to help Yemen under the radar with "small" things, No need to show over with PKK. Yet they help. Also even INSIDE the KRG people hate Turkish guts, but they need the dough.



    Give them the dough and weapons.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:57 pm


    Syrian Army Liberates More of Latakia After Fierce Clashes With Terrorists

    Syrian government forces have taken back key areas in the coastal province of Lattakia, reported Fars on Wednesday.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151209/1031497423/syria-lattakia-army-liberate.html


    The Syrian army and allied popular defense groups regained control over key areas in Latakia on Wednesday, reported Iran's Fars news agency.

    "The Syrian Arab Army’s 103rd Brigade of the Republican Guard has gotten off to a fast start this week, capturing several key regions from the Al-Nusra Front, the Free Syrian Army’s 'Liwaa Suqour Al-Ghaab,' and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham terrorist groups in northeast regions of Latakia province."

    Syrian government troops stand on a vehicle carrying heavy artillery in the village of Akoula near the airport of Kweyris, in the northern Syrian province of Aleppo, after they re-took the area from the control of the Islamic State (IS) group (File)

    Syria's National Defense Forces, the Syrian Social Nationalist Party and Syrian Resistance also took part in the offensives against terrorists in the northern countryside areas of Latakia.

    "In a matter of four days, the Syrian Armed Forces have seized over 100 square kilometers from terrorists in Northeastern Latakia; this is likely to increase in the coming days as the pro-government forces eye the rebel stronghold of Salma," reported Fars.

    ​The offensive from Syrian government forces in Latakia was aided by airstrikes from the Russian Air Force, which also targeted terrorists in Aleppo, Idlib, Hama and Homs.
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    Post  par far Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:00 pm

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151209/1031497423/syria-lattakia-army-liberate.html

    https://twitter.com/leithfadel

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Hala Jaber ‏@HalaJaber 45 Min.Vor 45 Minuten
    Hala Jaber hat صوت شــامـي retweetet
    Rebels warning tt #Syrian army & allies (Rawafid) are only 1km away,& they on verge of losing highway& #Aleppo reef

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 2 Std.Vor 2 Stunden
    Syrian Army seizes a strategic village on the Turkish border of Latakia as the Islamist rebel defenses collapse:

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    The Al-Nusra leader of Lebanon has been killed:

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Beware The Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians 6 Std.Vor 6 Stunden
    SAA achieved victories in Latakia today and still advancing. If you're lucky you will soon see piles of Jihadist corpses who couldn't flee

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 12 Std.Vor 12 Stunden
    Syrian Army captures more points along the Damascus-Homs Highway as they inch closer to reopening it:

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Paul Antonopoulos ‏@oulosP 13 Std.Vor 13 Stunden
    Paul Antonopoulos hat Al-Masdar News retweetet
    #SAA within 10km of the #Syria-#Turkey border in #Latakia . Sultan #Erdogan must be sweating now. To bad #alnusra

    https://twitter.com/ejmalrai

    Elijah J. Magnier retweetete
    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    #SYRIA Range of the #Kalibr cruise missile is over 2,000 km. It is practically invisible for any air defence means



    Elijah J. Magnier retweetete
    Sam Tamiz ‏@SamTamiz 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    IRGC chief: #Iran defending itself 1,000km beyond country's borders, country's fate lies in conflicts in West Asia http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13940918001174 …

    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 40 Min.Vor 40 Minuten
    There are around 4000 IRGC in Syria. Syria needs 40.000 at least of one group. The plan was for Iraqis to move in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/agitpapa

    agitpapa ‏@agitpapa 3 Std.vor 3 Stunden
    agitpapa hat Beware The Tiger retweetet
    SAA is at the gates of the biggest rat nest in Latakia

    Beware The Tiger
    Map: SAA captured Ateera & mount Barindi today in #Latakia. SAA is now on the outskirts of terrorist fortress Rabiah



    https://twitter.com/ald_aba

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 47 Min.Vor 47 Minuten
    #SAA captured today hilltop of Tal Harisha, hilltop of Tal Syriatel and the village of Ateera in the northern countryside of #Lattakia.

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 1 Std.Vor 1 Stunde
    Multiple reports from the ground in southern #Aleppo that new weapon system will be introduced. My assumption T-90 or Smech

    Ald_A retweetete
    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 7 Std.Vor 7 Stunden
    174 armed #JN #AQ left Hay al-Waer #Homs along w/ 100 unarmed 2reef #Hama. 2000 decided 2remain & settle in d city in agreement w/ #Damascus

    Ald_A retweetete
    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 7 Std.Vor 7 Stunden
    Those 2000 have accepted to lay down the arms and re-integrate in the society as these are from the same city of #Homs. #Syria.

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 4 Std.Vor 4 Stunden
    After recent advances #SAA is preparing to capture old border crossing in southern #Daraa city

    https://twitter.com/rSyrianCivilWar

    SyrianCivilWarReddit ‏@RSyrianCivilWar 5 Std.Vor 5 Stunden
    Rusia delivered BM-30 Smerch /9A52-2 Smerch-M to SAA http://redd.it/3w2hwi


    They are making progress but it is slow, they need to be faster.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:03 pm

    par far wrote:http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151209/1031497423/syria-lattakia-army-liberate.html

    https://twitter.com/leithfadel

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Hala Jaber ‏@HalaJaber 45 Min.Vor 45 Minuten
    Hala Jaber hat صوت شــامـي retweetet
    Rebels warning tt #Syrian army & allies (Rawafid) are only 1km away,& they on verge of losing highway& #Aleppo reef

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 2 Std.Vor 2 Stunden
    Syrian Army seizes a strategic village on the Turkish border of Latakia as the Islamist rebel defenses collapse:

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    The Al-Nusra leader of Lebanon has been killed:

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Beware The Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians 6 Std.Vor 6 Stunden
    SAA achieved victories in Latakia today and still advancing. If you're lucky you will soon see piles of Jihadist corpses who couldn't flee

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 12 Std.Vor 12 Stunden
    Syrian Army captures more points along the Damascus-Homs Highway as they inch closer to reopening it:

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Paul Antonopoulos ‏@oulosP 13 Std.Vor 13 Stunden
    Paul Antonopoulos hat Al-Masdar News retweetet
    #SAA within 10km of the #Syria-#Turkey border in #Latakia . Sultan #Erdogan must be sweating now. To bad #alnusra

    https://twitter.com/ejmalrai

    Elijah J. Magnier retweetete
    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    #SYRIA Range of the #Kalibr cruise missile is over 2,000 km. It is practically invisible for any air defence means



    Elijah J. Magnier retweetete
    Sam Tamiz ‏@SamTamiz 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    IRGC chief: #Iran defending itself 1,000km beyond country's borders, country's fate lies in conflicts in West Asia http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13940918001174 …

    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 40 Min.Vor 40 Minuten
    There are around 4000 IRGC in Syria. Syria needs 40.000 at least of one group. The plan was for Iraqis to move in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/agitpapa

    agitpapa ‏@agitpapa 3 Std.vor 3 Stunden
    agitpapa hat Beware The Tiger retweetet
    SAA is at the gates of the biggest rat nest in Latakia

    Beware The Tiger
    Map: SAA captured Ateera & mount Barindi today in #Latakia. SAA is now on the outskirts of terrorist fortress Rabiah



    https://twitter.com/ald_aba

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 47 Min.Vor 47 Minuten
    #SAA captured today hilltop of Tal Harisha, hilltop of Tal Syriatel and the village of Ateera in the northern countryside of #Lattakia.

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 1 Std.Vor 1 Stunde
    Multiple reports from the ground in southern #Aleppo that new weapon system will be introduced. My assumption T-90 or Smech  

    Ald_A retweetete
    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 7 Std.Vor 7 Stunden
    174 armed #JN #AQ left Hay al-Waer #Homs along w/ 100 unarmed 2reef #Hama. 2000 decided 2remain & settle in d city in agreement w/ #Damascus

    Ald_A retweetete
    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 7 Std.Vor 7 Stunden
    Those 2000 have accepted to lay down the arms and re-integrate in the society as these are from the same city of #Homs. #Syria.

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 4 Std.Vor 4 Stunden
    After recent advances #SAA is preparing to capture old border crossing in southern #Daraa city

    https://twitter.com/rSyrianCivilWar

    SyrianCivilWarReddit ‏@RSyrianCivilWar 5 Std.Vor 5 Stunden
    Rusia delivered BM-30 Smerch /9A52-2 Smerch-M to SAA http://redd.it/3w2hwi


    They are making progress but it is slow, they need to be faster.

    Slow progress is better than having to deal with internal security issues.
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    Post  par far Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:05 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    par far wrote:http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151209/1031497423/syria-lattakia-army-liberate.html

    https://twitter.com/leithfadel

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Hala Jaber ‏@HalaJaber 45 Min.Vor 45 Minuten
    Hala Jaber hat صوت شــامـي retweetet
    Rebels warning tt #Syrian army & allies (Rawafid) are only 1km away,& they on verge of losing highway& #Aleppo reef

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 2 Std.Vor 2 Stunden
    Syrian Army seizes a strategic village on the Turkish border of Latakia as the Islamist rebel defenses collapse:

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    The Al-Nusra leader of Lebanon has been killed:

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Beware The Tiger ‏@Souria4Syrians 6 Std.Vor 6 Stunden
    SAA achieved victories in Latakia today and still advancing. If you're lucky you will soon see piles of Jihadist corpses who couldn't flee

    Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 12 Std.Vor 12 Stunden
    Syrian Army captures more points along the Damascus-Homs Highway as they inch closer to reopening it:

    Leith Abou Fadel retweetete
    Paul Antonopoulos ‏@oulosP 13 Std.Vor 13 Stunden
    Paul Antonopoulos hat Al-Masdar News retweetet
    #SAA within 10km of the #Syria-#Turkey border in #Latakia . Sultan #Erdogan must be sweating now. To bad #alnusra

    https://twitter.com/ejmalrai

    Elijah J. Magnier retweetete
    Минобороны России ‏@mod_russia 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    #SYRIA Range of the #Kalibr cruise missile is over 2,000 km. It is practically invisible for any air defence means



    Elijah J. Magnier retweetete
    Sam Tamiz ‏@SamTamiz 3 Std.Vor 3 Stunden
    IRGC chief: #Iran defending itself 1,000km beyond country's borders, country's fate lies in conflicts in West Asia http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13940918001174 …

    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 40 Min.Vor 40 Minuten
    There are around 4000 IRGC in Syria. Syria needs 40.000 at least of one group. The plan was for Iraqis to move in Syria.

    https://twitter.com/agitpapa

    agitpapa ‏@agitpapa 3 Std.vor 3 Stunden
    agitpapa hat Beware The Tiger retweetet
    SAA is at the gates of the biggest rat nest in Latakia

    Beware The Tiger
    Map: SAA captured Ateera & mount Barindi today in #Latakia. SAA is now on the outskirts of terrorist fortress Rabiah



    https://twitter.com/ald_aba

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 47 Min.Vor 47 Minuten
    #SAA captured today hilltop of Tal Harisha, hilltop of Tal Syriatel and the village of Ateera in the northern countryside of #Lattakia.

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 1 Std.Vor 1 Stunde
    Multiple reports from the ground in southern #Aleppo that new weapon system will be introduced. My assumption T-90 or Smech  

    Ald_A retweetete
    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 7 Std.Vor 7 Stunden
    174 armed #JN #AQ left Hay al-Waer #Homs along w/ 100 unarmed 2reef #Hama. 2000 decided 2remain & settle in d city in agreement w/ #Damascus

    Ald_A retweetete
    Elijah J. Magnier ‏@EjmAlrai 7 Std.Vor 7 Stunden
    Those 2000 have accepted to lay down the arms and re-integrate in the society as these are from the same city of #Homs. #Syria.

    Ald_A ‏@Ald_Aba 4 Std.Vor 4 Stunden
    After recent advances #SAA is preparing to capture old border crossing in southern #Daraa city

    https://twitter.com/rSyrianCivilWar

    SyrianCivilWarReddit ‏@RSyrianCivilWar 5 Std.Vor 5 Stunden
    Rusia delivered BM-30 Smerch /9A52-2 Smerch-M to SAA http://redd.it/3w2hwi


    They are making progress but it is slow, they need to be faster.

    Slow progress is better than having to deal with internal security issues.

    That's true but I just wish that they would recapture more territory around the Turkish border and fast.

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