Syrian Civil War: News #4

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

par far wrote: This is really scaring me.

http://southfront.org/foreign-policy-diary-escalation-in-syria-leads-to-a-global-war/

No major war Russia-NATO occurs as long as Russian ICBMS can reach US mainland. Obviously there will be strong push form western aggressors for proxy wars to destabilize internally.

As long as Syrian and Iraqi forces fight on their ground Turks are aggressors. Russia can support them without actual fighting Turkish aggressor terrorists openly.

par far wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

par far wrote:

NATO is also building a air base in Syria(Kurdish region). We need to do something here.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940914000257

As long NATO do not control the airspace of Syria ,away of Russia , they will be unable to defend
properly any position ,or build any major military base. Syria airforce will bomb those positions and Russia will defend Syrian Airforce.  So this is just minimal provocations and will not allow Turkey to defend anything as long as Russia/Syria control the airspace and can freely bomb.

Eventually if the advance continues they will be pushed little by little outside Syria. No Fortification of TUrkey inside Syria will be safe as long Russia and Syria dominate the airspace.
and S-400s there. but at the same time as long as the Syrian army continues advancing.

What NATO is doing is trying to make this conflict costly for Russia, Russia needs to be smart and avoid that, have a plan in place, where you surprise you enemy. I think(want to know what you guys think as well) that Russia needs to get the Iraqi government approval(convince them somehow) and start bombing Iraq, this way NATO will be caught off guard and Russia can use Iranian airspace(Iran has said that Russia is free to use it's airspace) to bomb in Iraq.
This is really scaring me.

http://southfront.org/foreign-policy-diary-escalation-in-syria-leads-to-a-global-war/

auslander wrote:

par far wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

par far wrote:

NATO is also building a air base in Syria(Kurdish region). We need to do something here.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940914000257

As long NATO do not control the airspace of Syria ,away of Russia , they will be unable to defend
properly any position ,or build any major military base. Syria airforce will bomb those positions and Russia will defend Syrian Airforce.  So this is just minimal provocations and will not allow Turkey to defend anything as long as Russia/Syria control the airspace and can freely bomb.

Eventually if the advance continues they will be pushed little by little outside Syria. No Fortification of TUrkey inside Syria will be safe as long Russia and Syria dominate the airspace.
and S-400s there. but at the same time as long as the Syrian army continues advancing.

What NATO is doing is trying to make this conflict costly for Russia, Russia needs to be smart and avoid that, have a plan in place, where you surprise you enemy. I think(want to know what you guys think as well) that Russia needs to get the Iraqi government approval(convince them somehow) and start bombing Iraq, this way NATO will be caught off guard and Russia can use Iranian airspace(Iran has said that Russia is free to use it's airspace) to bomb in Iraq.
This is really scaring me.

http://southfront.org/foreign-policy-diary-escalation-in-syria-leads-to-a-global-war/

I love how this guy talks to himself. At least he's a harmless nut.

The actions of the Turkish armed forces are a violation of international law and the laws and sovereignty of Iraq, said the President Fuad Masum.

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20151205/1336598495.html#ixzz3tTeiD31M

http://ria.ru/world/20151205/1336598495.html

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

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These items and the one Regular posted on the other thread seem to be fakes.

Be careful especially with the South Front; they were those who also initiated the fake about interference with the Russian shipping through Bosphorus.

You can check yourself: these are old stories; they are worded in an obviously fake language; and they haven't received any traction even in the other outlets after a significant passage of time. I had followed the propagation of all of these stories, or the lack thereof, from their inception long before them being posted on the RMF. One of these stories even had its date changed by up to 5 days when it was copy-and-pasted by a copycat outlet.

It's sad that RMF has been recently responsible for these fakes and a few others getting some traction. I am not saying the users responsible are doing this intentionally or not.


Edit: par far, see what you have done: these items are being discussed here now as though the are not fakes.

Cyberspec wrote:Reportedly Syrian BUK's being moved to Aleppo area

AlfaT8 wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:Reportedly Syrian BUK's being moved to Aleppo area

Good hunting.

Humanitarian Relief ‏@IHHen  Nov 29
A bread bakery, established by IHH in Syria's Idlib, has been hit by Russian airstrikes.
https://twitter.com/IHHen/status/671024602190094336

Akula971 wrote:Guys, UK conducted airstrikes in Syria, Israel blew up a building in Damascus (belonging to SAA)

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-airstrikes-over-damascus-confirmed/

Turkey is either moving in or pulling out of Iraq (i dont know)

French aircraft carrier ran away after dropping 4 bombs and Germany wants to enter Syria.

None of them want to cooperate with Russia over this issue.

Please answer this question :

Have the Russians deployed their S300s and S400s in the region at all ?? How are they letting NATO jets come and strike in Syria withouth permission ?? Whatever is going on right now ??

Akula971 wrote:Guys, UK conducted airstrikes in Syria, Israel blew up a building in Damascus (belonging to SAA)

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-airstrikes-over-damascus-confirmed/

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Akula971 wrote:Guys, UK conducted airstrikes in Syria, Israel blew up a building in Damascus (belonging to SAA)

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-airstrikes-over-damascus-confirmed/

That's a fake story; please don't repeat it.

Akula971 wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Akula971 wrote:Guys, UK conducted airstrikes in Syria, Israel blew up a building in Damascus (belonging to SAA)

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-airstrikes-over-damascus-confirmed/

That's a fake story; please don't repeat it.

Thank you for clarifying. It looked fake but what about the German and UK intervention ?? UK did do a sortie.

Militarov wrote:What is your point. They should attack French, UK and US bombers? Dont be silly.

Militarov wrote:

Akula971 wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Akula971 wrote:Guys, UK conducted airstrikes in Syria, Israel blew up a building in Damascus (belonging to SAA)

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-airstrikes-over-damascus-confirmed/

That's a fake story; please don't repeat it.

Thank you for clarifying. It looked fake but what about the German and UK intervention ?? UK did do a sortie.

So did France and US in last 72h. What is your point. They should attack French, UK and US bombers? Dont be silly.

Akula971 wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Akula971 wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Akula971 wrote:Guys, UK conducted airstrikes in Syria, Israel blew up a building in Damascus (belonging to SAA)

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-airstrikes-over-damascus-confirmed/

That's a fake story; please don't repeat it.

Thank you for clarifying. It looked fake but what about the German and UK intervention ?? UK did do a sortie.

So did France and US in last 72h. What is your point. They should attack French, UK and US bombers? Dont be silly.

I dont want Russia to shoot down their bombers. That is not what I am getting at. My point is - Russia imposed a De-Facto no fly zone over Syria. NATO intervention in Syria is illegal, Syrian government never asked NATO to intervene - its not 1999 anymore.

Now with NATO sending ground troops - the region is going to get unnecessarily hot. And no, I dont want the balkanization of Syria either. What about Russian force projection ??

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Well, all of this talk about about England's or France's incursions into the Syrian airspace aren't necessarily true. ...