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    Rmf
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    Re: Russian Oil and Gas Industry: News

    Post  Rmf on Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:49 pm

    no its not, there is summer gas supply and winter gas supply....in the winter is much bigger quantity.
    this way underused north stream (in summer) will be pumping at full capacity all year round , but during summer the gas will be stored in german storages ,and then they will release it to dumb east europeans with their transit tax during winter....
    So germany instead of paying transit taxes will get cheap gas directly from russia ,store extra of it in summer , use north stream 100% , and then sell gas to russophobic east-euro-idiots with its own transit tax for more profit. east europenas get shafted massively.
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    Re: Russian Oil and Gas Industry: News

    Post  JohninMK on Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:42 pm

    Rmf wrote:no its not, there is summer gas supply and winter gas supply....in the winter is much bigger quantity.
    this way underused north stream (in summer) will be pumping at full capacity all year round , but during summer the gas will be stored in german storages ,and then they will release it to dumb east europeans with their transit tax during winter....
    So germany instead of paying transit taxes will get cheap gas directly from russia ,store extra of it in summer , use north stream 100% , and then sell gas to russophobic east-euro-idiots with its own transit tax for more profit. east europenas get shafted massively.
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    Not sure that makes sense.

    Nordstream1's 55BCM capacity splits two ways at Rostock, 20 to NEL to the west, including as far as us in the UK, and 35 to OPAL to the south.

    Due to EU rules, only 50% of the Opal pipe capacity was available to Gazprom's Russian gas all year round, the other 50% being reserved under competition rules for other sources. This of course was ridiculous as there were no actual alternatives. So now the EU has seen economic sense and Gazprom can use 90% with 10% for others that is an extra 14BCM.

    As you say, it is likely that at times in the winter Opal will run at full capacity as well as some of the summer when it is filling storage in Germany. Incidentally, an increasing amount of that storage has been bought by Gazprom from the Germans, so rather than Germany benefiting from selling that gas in the winter it will be Gazprom shareholders.

    Only Ukraine makes a point about buying 'non Russian' gas and that only stacks up economically due to them getting the transit fee to net against the reverse flow gas cost. To much of Eastern Europe it probably makes no difference which pipe from Russia their gas comes in on.

    There is possibly still 50+BCM running through Ukraine so OPAL can't cope on its own if Ukraine is to be bypassed, Russia needs South or Turkstream as well or Nordstream2 plus OPAL2 with increased capacity maybe all the way down to the main switching hub at Baumgarten in Austria.

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    Re: Russian Oil and Gas Industry: News

    Post  Rmf on Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:32 pm

    thats the point , both sides control each other... russia has fixed investments in germany , so germany is not affraid to empty its storages of gas ,because now both sides have -leverage.
    even in the end of winter germany who has largest storage cappacity had 30% left in gas tanks for fear of russian cutbacks. north stream was underused and using opal russians will fill those storages during summer and empty to 0% at the end of winter. in case of prolonged winter old pipes can be used but little. but poland and ukraine get owned totaly.

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