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    Post  miketheterrible on Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:40 pm

    dino00 wrote:The United States recognized the defeat of "Gazprom", but still hoping to save Ukraine

    https://ria.ru/20190413/1552647364.html

    Defeate from Gazprom.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:02 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    dino00 wrote:The United States recognized the defeat of "Gazprom", but still hoping to save Ukraine

    https://ria.ru/20190413/1552647364.html

    Defeate from Gazprom.

    Defeat by Gazprom
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    Post  dino00 on Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:51 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    dino00 wrote:The United States recognized the defeat of "Gazprom", but still hoping to save Ukraine

    https://ria.ru/20190413/1552647364.html

    Defeate from Gazprom.

    Defeat by Gazprom

    Defeat to Gazprom
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    Post  Kimppis on Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:54 pm

    dino00 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    dino00 wrote:The United States recognized the defeat of "Gazprom", but still hoping to save Ukraine

    https://ria.ru/20190413/1552647364.html

    Defeate from Gazprom.

    Defeat by Gazprom

    Defeat to Gazprom

    Defeat against Gazprom
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    Post  Hole on Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:40 pm

    "Rescued" by Trumpistan = defeat for Banderistan.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:07 am

    Kimppis wrote:
    dino00 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    dino00 wrote:The United States recognized the defeat of "Gazprom", but still hoping to save Ukraine

    https://ria.ru/20190413/1552647364.html

    Defeate from Gazprom.

    Defeat by Gazprom

    Defeat to Gazprom

    Defeat against Gazprom

    Defeat. By Gazprom.

    This is fun.
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    Post  MiamiMachineShop on Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:10 am

    Defeat to Gazprom
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:55 am

    Dance on GazProm night.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:16 am

    The Ultimate goal of defeating Gazprom is the EastMed Pipeline that would be controlled by Israel. They could bypass the instability in Turkey and Syria to get all of the Arab and Cypriot gas that is coming on line.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:23 am

    Whatever the route, as long as it bypasses the lunatics in Banderastan and Pooland. Just think about Turk Stream, the idea of Russia using a traditional
    enemy (check up on the history) as a route for such a critical export says a lot. The Turks are prepared to be rational and sane about
    the gas transit. The Slav "brothers" in eastern Europe are not.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:43 am

    kvs wrote:Whatever the route, as long as it bypasses the lunatics in Banderastan and Pooland.   Just think about Turk Stream, the idea of Russia using a traditional
    enemy (check up on the history) as a route for such a critical export says a lot.   The Turks are prepared to be rational and sane about
    the gas transit.   The Slav "brothers" in eastern Europe are not.

    If they get new supplies of gas and don't need ours anymore, that is a problem. At the very least those new supplies will lower what we can charge for it.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:03 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:The Ultimate goal of defeating Gazprom is the EastMed Pipeline that would be controlled by Israel.  They could bypass the instability in Turkey and Syria to get all of the Arab and Cypriot gas that is coming on line.  

    So your going to pretend that Israel isn't in a constant state of low intensity conflict and instability?
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:34 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    So your going to pretend that Israel isn't in a constant state of low intensity conflict and instability?

    No one has yet blown the existing pipelines that would feed it.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:51 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    So your going to pretend that Israel isn't in a constant state of low intensity conflict and instability?

    No one has yet blown the existing pipelines that would feed it.  

    Never say never. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, they supported covert economic proxy measures against their enemies, you don't think their enemies wouldn't do the same?
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    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:03 pm

    Here is a question about international law for resource transit.

    Denmark is harassing the Nord Stream II project because it transits its EEZ (economic not territorial zone). Now suppose we have
    and LNG tanker train operating in "international waters" but inside Russia's (or some other country's) EEZ. How come Russia
    has no right to regulate such resource transit like Denmark as in the case of the Nord Stream II pipeline. Looks like a patently
    nonsensical distinction. So any resource transit (container or other shipping) through Russia's EEZ is open to full Russian
    control. That means that the EEZ is de facto the territorial waters of Russia and in fact, more restrictive than the current
    Law of the Sea deal where ships have a right to pass even through territorial waters if they follow the proper procedure.

    Next time some clown yaps about international law, consider how contradictory and absurd it can be.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:15 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    kvs wrote:Whatever the route, as long as it bypasses the lunatics in Banderastan and Pooland.   Just think about Turk Stream, the idea of Russia using a traditional
    enemy (check up on the history) as a route for such a critical export says a lot.   The Turks are prepared to be rational and sane about
    the gas transit.   The Slav "brothers" in eastern Europe are not.

    If they get new supplies of gas and don't need ours anymore, that is a problem.  At the very least those new supplies will lower what we can charge for it.  

    No.  It wont.  It wont be enough through transport.  Would meet a fraction of the needs of Europe.  Hence why there are multiple sources from Russia to EU alone.  That isn't including all their other gas imports.  Are you even aware how much is transported to EU per year? Or how much they require to be transported through pipeline + LNG?

    There is absolutely no way a single pipeline, or even two or three will fill that need.  Yeah, it will take a hit against Russian pipelines in that they will reduce import from Russia but wouldn't cut it.

    Plus now you got EU hating Israel for nearly everything so they wont agree with an Israeli controlled pipeline either. Plus, Europe including Germany refused to allow a single source. India, China and the rest all stated similar. So while Russia will never be dominant in supply, it would definitely have customers. AND ultimately, getting the Arab nations to agree with Israel regarding a pipeline is a major joke.

    But, as the article states since I think some people cant use translate very well:  US failed to get the Germans to agree.

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    Senate hearings on the state Department budget turned into a scandal. Instead to give the Secretary of state Mike Pompeo another check, the senators gave him a little interrogation, during which he demanded to report about the task execution blocking "Nord stream — 2". To give a detailed response, the head of American diplomacy is clearly not enough props, it was felt that it would be very useful a white flag to wave them in front of the senators, but was confined to the verbal statement: "We have done everything possible to dissuade the Europeans, primarily Germans, from the construction of the Nord Stream 2. We have not achieved success to date".

    The firm position of the German leadership was recently confirmed by the German foreign Minister Heiko Maas, who responded to criticism from Vice-President Michael Pence on financing of NATO and the construction of "Nord stream — 2": "Nothing new there. We are not surprised, and we won't change our arguments or load sharing (funding NATO. — Approx. ed.) nor that with regard to the "Nord stream — 2".

    American hopes that the change of leadership in the party of Angela Merkel will create the necessary conditions for the waiver of the "Nord stream — 2", also did not materialize. Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, "the heiress" Angela Merkel said in February: "Nord stream — 2" for me, as for others, of course, not the same project that I support with all my heart. However, the fundamental decisions have already been made, the project cannot be turned back." However, it emphasized the negative attitude to the main (and, in fact, the only) instrument of U.S. diplomacy: "the threat of sanctions — not the best way to communicate between friends and partners. USA pursue their own economic interests, which is perfectly legal. But Washington should hear the answer of Germany: we are diversifying, we have other sources of supply". Mike Pompeo, probably, have heard the German position, and while he has nothing to object.

    However, your budget the Secretary of state still got, although the state Department a few achievements recently: "Nord stream — 2" is based, the European Union refuses to join the sanctions against Iran, Maduro is still in power in Venezuela, and about the creation of a broad anti-Chinese coalition, which is so necessary to the administration of trump can only dream of. Even the biggest American success of the last time — the arrest of Julian Assange, most likely, is the achievement of the U.S. Treasury, not American diplomacy. Very strange coincidence: on 11 March, the IMF (which the Americans and their allies still remains a big influence) decides to allocate the deeply unpopular (and not very competent) President of Ecuador a loan of 4.2 billion dollars and a month later, Assange is under arrest at the request of U.S. authorities.
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    Post  miketheterrible Today at 11:41 am

    Rumor has it that Belarus is shooting itself in the foot by going to stop buying Russian overpriced and poor quality oil for imports from Lithuania and Latvia.

    Isn't that shit way more expensive?
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    Post  kvs Today at 2:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Rumor has it that Belarus is shooting itself in the foot by going to stop buying Russian overpriced and poor quality oil for imports from Lithuania and Latvia.

    Isn't that shit way more expensive?

    Numerous governments around the world have been regime changed by the USA for doing less.

    This sounds like some sort of joke. Belorussian refineries would have been built to handle the "poor quality"
    (i.e. higher sulfur and viscosity) Russian oil. The Urals grade is cheaper than other grades for these
    reasons. So "overpriced" sounds like some tantrum excrement from a drama queen. Do they want it for next
    to nothing even though their refineries can handle it without issue?

    This smells of misinformation propaganda to me.

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    Post  miketheterrible Today at 3:05 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Rumor has it that Belarus is shooting itself in the foot by going to stop buying Russian overpriced and poor quality oil for imports from Lithuania and Latvia.

    Isn't that shit way more expensive?

    Numerous governments around the world have been regime changed by the USA for doing less.

    This sounds like some sort of joke.   Belorussian refineries would have been built to handle the "poor quality"
    (i.e. higher sulfur and viscosity) Russian oil.   The Urals grade is cheaper than other grades for these
    reasons.   So "overpriced" sounds like some tantrum excrement from a drama queen.  Do they want it for next
    to nothing even though their refineries can handle it without issue?    

    This smells of misinformation propaganda to me.


    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6365236?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share

    What makes this even worst now I think about it, Belarus will use Russian money for this since Russia recently gave them a loan.
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    Post  Hole Today at 4:24 pm

    https://southfront.org/belarus-stops-oil-exports-to-ukraine-poland-and-the-baltics-less-than-week-after-russian-ban-of-oil-export-to-ukraine/

    No more (re-)exports.
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    Post  miketheterrible Today at 4:29 pm

    Hole wrote:https://southfront.org/belarus-stops-oil-exports-to-ukraine-poland-and-the-baltics-less-than-week-after-russian-ban-of-oil-export-to-ukraine/

    No more (re-)exports.

    That is probably what Belarus is now doing by importing oil from other countries, so they can process it and sell to Ukraine.

    Oh well, hopefully they use their own money.

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