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    Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

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    Are they leaving the US' influence?

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    AlfaT8
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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:14 am

    KKTC wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KKTC wrote:We all know military coup attempt in Turkey and we all know US goverment did the attempt

    And what you guys thinking about Nato and Turkey ?

    Im from turkey and i think US is not friend of turkey

    No that wont happen, Erdogun is playing a double game here, right now he's playing of both sides to get what he wants, but he wont go so far as to leave NATO because that prevents other NATO members from confronting him, after all NATO needs to maintain the delusion that they're some sort of unified force, in short, if the U.S were to attack Turkey then NATO would cease to exist.

    İf turkey out nato there will be only usa left
    And i think we out nato and play with russia because turkey only trust russia we see all eu and nato countrys after the coup attempt and russia
    well russia and turkey need eacother than the other countrys in eu we are neighbours we are going to russia to study or visit they come to turkey and we need eachother and peace for russia and turkey pirat

    Turkey trust no one not even itself, and Russia doesn't need Turkey, they just want relations good if/when possible.

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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  KKTC on Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:03 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KKTC wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    KKTC wrote:We all know military coup attempt in Turkey and we all know US goverment did the attempt

    And what you guys thinking about Nato and Turkey ?

    Im from turkey and i think US is not friend of turkey

    No that wont happen, Erdogun is playing a double game here, right now he's playing of both sides to get what he wants, but he wont go so far as to leave NATO because that prevents other NATO members from confronting him, after all NATO needs to maintain the delusion that they're some sort of unified force, in short, if the U.S were to attack Turkey then NATO would cease to exist.

    İf turkey out nato there will be only usa left
    And i think we out nato and play with russia because turkey only trust russia we see all eu and nato countrys after the coup attempt and russia
    well russia and turkey need eacother than the other countrys in eu we are neighbours we are going to russia to study or visit they come to turkey and we need eachother and peace for russia and turkey pirat

    Turkey trust no one not even itself, and Russia doesn't need Turkey, they just want relations good if/when possible.


    The best for the Turkey is make a turan union all turkic countries but all of them except azerbaican cooperating with russia and all of them using russian systems
    İf they cooperate with us they can use turkish military systems weapons aircrafts...... But if they happens its bad for russia

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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:18 pm

    Good relations between Russia and Turkey is good for Russia and good for Turkey.

    Good relations with the US is usually only good for the US first and sometimes good for those that give up everything to be friends with the US.


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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  KKTC on Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:23 pm

    GarryB wrote:Good relations between Russia and Turkey is good for Russia and good for Turkey.

    Good relations with the US is usually only good for the US first and sometimes good for those that give up everything to be friends with the US.

    Ye right USA is the worst country ever.

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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  eehnie on Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:12 am

    Weak Turkey is good for Russia, because when Turkey can they begin to look forward with expansive ambitions.

    Take into account the intention with the Turkic union. It is to expand their own military material,... their own influence.

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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:36 am

    Ye right USA is the worst country ever.

    Full of wonderful people... but controlled by pricks... with the self control and manners of a penis in a brothel.


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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  The Ottoman on Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:45 pm


    14 October 2016 19:05

    Russia 'May Consider' Giving Air Defense Systems to Turkey


    The Kremlin has said Friday it "may consider" supplying Turkey with air defense systems in a further warming of ties after a feud over the downing of a Russian jet last year.

    President Vladimir Putin and Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan held talks in Istanbul on Monday in which the prospect of supplying Ankara with air defence systems was brought up, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Russian news agencies; AFP reported.

    "Various missile defence systems were mentioned and if the Turkish side so desires, Russia may consider the possibility of supplying Turkey in various ways," Peskov was quoted as saying.

    Turkey's private NTV channel, citing Turkish foreign ministry sources, said earlier this week that Ankara was ready to accept an offer from Russia for a Turkish tender to build long-range air defence systems.

    Turkish officials, contacted by AFP, said they had no information about any development.

    Putin's visit to Turkey -- his first since the November 2015 downing of a Russian war plane by Ankara sparked the worst dispute between the countries since the Cold War -- saw each side pledge to step up cooperation in all areas including defence and technology.

    The Kremlin strongman on Monday hinted that concrete measures would be taken to reinforce defence ties with Ankara.

    "We are ready to continue this (military-technical) cooperation and boost it with serious projects of mutual interest," Putin said.

    "Proposals from both sides are being studied, and I am certain they have all the grounds to be carried out."


    Ankara last year cancelled a preliminary deal on air defence systems with China amid concerns from its NATO partners.
    At the time, Turkish officials said Ankara had instead an ambitious plan to build a Turkish-made missile defence system.

    Despite the warming ties, Moscow and Ankara remain far apart on the conflict in Syria, with Russia supporting leader Bashar al-Assad and Turkey wanting him out.


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    Re: Turkey Ending Alliance With US and NATO?

    Post  Sinan on Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:35 pm

    Turkey left US influence in the 2000s. All is left to kick American''s out of the İncirlik airbase, shut off kürecik radar base, give their Nukes back.

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