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    PapaDragon

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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:28 pm


    Looks like Russia is going full 'Murrica! lol1 russia

    "GAZ Group" produced a motorhome on the basis of "Gazelle Next''

    http://www.zr.ru/content/news/808202-gruppa-gaz-podgotovila-avtodom-na-baze-gazeli-next/



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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:30 pm

    A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.

    Also, it is fug.... they should have just made the standard Gazell next and used as a trailer attachment. With having it merged together, it looks terrible and the color scheme of the cab should have been the same as the trailer part.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:10 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Too many automotive companies. Far too many, even for a country like Russia.

    I think it may be in their best interests to start merging some brands like UAZ and GAZ, while VAZ takes ZIL.  Combined revenues will allow them to produce even better automobiles, and combined, could have a better chance of filling various countries with all types of products as there is 1 company involved in agreements rather than hald a dozen.
    Way smaller Italy has FIAT, lamborghini, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Bugatti

    Japan has: Daihatsu, Suzuki, Honda,Mitsubishi, Isuzu, Nissan, Mazda

    Russia has the same or more automotive potential than these countries so half a dozen companies shouldn't be excessive.

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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:11 pm

    And now can you see why the automarket is always in trouble? Way too much over production.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:42 pm


    Lada Xray Concept 2 and Lada Vesta Concept








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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Svyatoslavich on Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:54 am

    sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
    Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?

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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Prince Darling on Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:21 am

    cars look pretty good, front is a bit wild cat like.

    would love to see some interior pictures
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  eehnie on Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:24 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:If fucking spain which has far less experience, and in a massive crisis can still churn out millions if SEATs then I find it hard to believe neither ZIL, GAZ, UAZ has a penny to spare to create some middle class cars, volga preferably.

    SEAT only survived until now because they had the support of a big group like Volkswagen. SEAT is a continuous headache for Volkswagen, who supports the continuous loses of the brand year after year. Slowly the factory that produced always the SEAT cars (located in Catalonia), begins to produce Audi cars. SEAT is becoming a one or two cars (basically Ibiza and Leon) brand (like Mini or Smart).
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:56 pm

    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
    Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?

    Like I said, a camper. So yes, during spring/summer/fall kind of thing. For when people want to leave the cities/towns and go enjoy themselves near a lake and have a camp fire and what not. Not a bad idea of course, I just think the execution of it could have been way better (trailer rather than it being actual part of the vehicle).
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:20 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Svyatoslavich wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
    Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?

    Like I said, a camper.  So yes, during spring/summer/fall kind of thing.  For when people want to leave the cities/towns and go enjoy themselves near a lake and have a camp fire and what not.  Not a bad idea of course, I just think the execution of it could have been way better (trailer rather than it being actual part of the vehicle).

    Yes, but this approach keeps the cost down. Also, paint job is probably optional. Keep in mind that trailer culture in Russia and Europe is not as huge as in north America.

    I really like how the whole thing looks but then again I am a euro trash myself... Laughing

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    The new LADA xray looks sick of beauty

    Post  Vann7 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:24 am

    The new LADA xray looks sick of beauty.. Laughing

    Is a fantastic new modern design and not only the exteriors but interiors too...

    me wants one..  anyone knows where Lada Xray is sold and its price in dollars?




    There is also really amazing new cars coming from Russia from the
    Sport super luxury market..  The Marusia designer is now working on Wolf


    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150728/1025145424.html

    but the most amazing sport car in the world will be the Vector raven
    that they planning to build..





    http://sputniknews.com/science/20150821/1026025280/russia-supercar-lada.html

    Finally an interesting report/video of the AutoBaz Lada car maker in Russia..



    Did anyone notice the LADA XRay model have an "X" shape in the front of the car.. Laughing
    That was brilliant.. really like it..  Smile  

    Im really convinced Russia can truly become really successful developing at home all the cars
    they need for its entire society.. From economical ones to the most expensive.. and not junk
    cars.. but very modern ones.. Smile   Should be amazing to see Russia completely replace every
    technology they buy from the west.. I really think Europe is shooting in their own shoes with the sanctions on Russia..  They lost the Food industry and European Car industry is now in danger
    of being over taken by the domestic one ,most of its sales that is. A BMW will continue to be
    a state of the art machine.. for long time. Still the thing that Russia fails miserably is in promotion.. they suck in promotion.. They have RT media and Sputnik and do not propertly
    take advantage of such powerful mediums of information.. Russia should have full adversing for weeks or more their newest stuff.. that people are never aware of it unless they use google.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:57 pm

    russia

    ''AvtoVAZ began production of the sports car of the Russian Lada Kalina NFR''

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/


















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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:30 pm

    I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.

    Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.

    Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  kvs on Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:25 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.

    Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.

    Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.

    I think we have a fresh crop of hater trolls who don't post much but downvote any sane member.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:31 pm

    sepheronx wrote:I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.

    Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.

    Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.

    Had days like that myself...

    I have upvoted you to right the injustice. russia thumbsup
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:42 pm

    You guys are so sweet sunny

    But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:58 am

    sepheronx wrote:You guys are so sweet sunny

    But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?

    http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5048-eng.html

    Looks like you are out of luck for new vehicles not manufactured in the USA. Of course, this regulation
    is total BS and designed to secure the market (aka racket) from unwanted competition. At one stage
    the USSR was exporting Ladas to Canada, so Avtovaz possibly could export again, but it likely has to face all sorts
    of hurdles that don't make it worthwhile.

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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Vann7 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:46 am

    LADA Xray model..



    looks awesome.. and is 4 x 4...

    Anyone knows the price in dollar the car will be sold to the west?

    Will love to have one.. in that save color.. looks dam good..and futuristic.


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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  Neutrality on Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:08 am

    Perhaps the biggest news of this year:

    http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2

    Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:

    -First car company to start produce car engines domestically
    -Investment of 275 million dollars
    -95% automated
    -Creation of 200 jobs
    -Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually

    And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.

    russia
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:38 pm

    Neutrality wrote:Perhaps the biggest news of this year:

    http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2

    Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:

    -First car company to start produce car engines domestically
    -Investment of 275 million dollars
    -95% automated
    -Creation of 200 jobs
    -Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually

    And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.

    russia

    Basically that means, in essential, another U.S. company place an order for engines to Russian manufacturers.

    Another meaning is that, well, sanction my **s.

    BTW, same news, in English.

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20150903/1026529756.html
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    Post  Neutrality on Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:51 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:Perhaps the biggest news of this year:

    http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2

    Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:

    -First car company to start produce car engines domestically
    -Investment of 275 million dollars
    -95% automated
    -Creation of 200 jobs
    -Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually

    And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.

    russia

    Basically that means, in essential, another U.S. company place an order for engines to Russian manufacturers.

    Another meaning is that, well, sanction my **s.

    BTW, same news, in English.

    http://sputniknews.com/business/20150903/1026529756.html

    On the same subject: http://autodni.ru/news/284159/

    Volkswagen will also start producing car engines in Russia. No idea about the level of localization though.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  sepheronx on Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:32 pm

    They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.

    Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.
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    Re: Russian Auto Industry

    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:58 am

    sepheronx wrote:They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.

    Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.

    You mean this ? Question Question Idea

    http://a1perform.com/2015/02/25/avtovaz-will-start-new-engine-production-in-march/
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    Post  sepheronx on Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:11 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.

    Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.

    You mean this ? Question Question Idea

    http://a1perform.com/2015/02/25/avtovaz-will-start-new-engine-production-in-march/

    That is it.

    Although we do not know if it gone through or not. I can only assume due to current economic climate as well as sanctions.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:48 pm


    And now Volkswagen is starting engine production in Russia.

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67254/

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