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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed May 24, 2017 1:57 pm

    Viktor wrote:I bet Russia intends to use T-14 as a command post to control swarms of ground robots like Uran-9.

    More like once Armata production gets up to speed, they might develop a T-15 variant with 4-6 console operators for control of robotised T-72B3 variants. Given Russian use of autoloaders, it should be feasible to engineer an add-on pack for conversion of latest-model T-72s into RC drone tanks. Kinda like an IFV carrying a crack squad of World of Tanks players... Laughing

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  AlfaT8 on Wed May 24, 2017 4:05 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Viktor wrote:I bet Russia intends to use T-14 as a command post to control swarms of ground robots like Uran-9.

    More like once Armata production gets up to speed, they might develop a T-15 variant with 4-6 console operators for control of robotised T-72B3 variants.  Given Russian use of autoloaders, it should be feasible to engineer an add-on pack for conversion of latest-model T-72s into RC drone tanks.  Kinda like an IFV carrying a crack squad of World of Tanks players...   Laughing  

    Now I'm off to fire up my WoT IS-3 heavy and give Stalins regards to some Axis monkeys...   russia  

    Might want to look into Armored Warfare, considering the recent WoT news.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  eehnie on Wed May 24, 2017 8:47 pm

    To see Russia increasing the funding for research and development is very logical. Now Russia is in a process of technological improvement that can be finnished in the timeline of this 2018-2025 State Armament Program. As result of this proces an entire generation of weapons can be developed in the first quarter of the XXI century in Russia. I have not doubt that one of the main goals for Russia in the 2018-2025 timeline is to achieve capabilities of building modern units of every type of land, air and sea warfare, and it means to continue with the current key programs, and in some case, even with some aditional impulse.

    When I commented in this same topic about what I would expect from the 2018-2025 State Armament Program, I commented also about the development of future warfare:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t2358p325-state-armaments-program-2011-2020#190008

    It is possible to see the begin of the serial production of some of the new possible weapons cited in the link, in the 2018-2025 State Armament Program, but in a good number of cases is possible that only the first units be ready by 2025, and the procurement begins after 2025.

    Also it is possible to see Russia reducing efforts in the research and development of other types of material of lower military interest to avoid distrations. As example, in the lightest land, air and sea auxiliary vehicles (transport, utility,...).
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Thu May 25, 2017 12:22 am

    MOSCOW, May 24 - RIA Novosti. More than 30,000 units of new and upgraded weapons have been received by the Russian Armed Forces since 2012, Defense Minister of the Russian Federation, Army General Sergei Shoigu, said on Wednesday.

    "In total, since 2012, the troops received more than 30,000 units of new and modernized weapons and equipment, including more than 50 warships, 1,300 aircraft, 4,700 tanks and armored combat vehicles," Shoigu said during the "government hour" In the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.

    He noted that "for comparison, from 2007 to 2011, only two warships, 151 aircraft and 217 tanks received the sun from the main samples."
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Thu May 25, 2017 12:25 am

    Russian troops in 2016 received 40 carriers of precision weapons and 180 long-range cruise missiles. This was stated by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu during the "government hour" in the Federation Council.

    "Last year alone, 40 high-precision weapons carriers and 180 long-range cruise missiles received joints and military units," Shoigu said.

    The Minister noted that these revenues increased the capabilities of the Russian armed forces by a third.

    Shoigu stressed that high-precision long-range weapons of land, sea and air based non-nuclear deterrence are being sent to the troops at an accelerated pace.

    Also, about half of the Navy warships will be equipped with sea-launched cruise missiles Caliber by the end of 2020. This was announced on Wednesday by Defense Minister of the Russian Federation, Army General Sergei Shoigu at the "government hour" in the Federation Council, Tass reports .

    "By the end of 2020 ... about half of the Navy warships will be equipped with sea-launched cruise missiles" Caliber ", said Shoigu.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Mon May 29, 2017 1:32 pm

    Announcement that 50,000 weapon units and military equipment has been made ready for summer conditions in the Eastern Military Region. Would assume that represents everything with a motor or wheels dunno

    Last week it was announced that the 56,000 weapon units and military equipment of the Western Military Region had been made ready. Would suspect the the Southern Military Region would have around the same numbers of the Eastern Region while the Central Region probably has around 2/3's to 3/4's of their respective totals. That would represent a total between 190 to 200 thousand for the overall Russian Armed Forces.

    Easier to relate to the 5,600 new units acquired last year along with the 3,000 units being upgraded representing an ~ 4-5% increase to the Modernized Military Equipment percentage.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  GarryB on Tue May 30, 2017 10:03 am

    More like once Armata production gets up to speed, they might develop a T-15 variant with 4-6 console operators for control of robotised T-72B3 variants. Given Russian use of autoloaders, it should be feasible to engineer an add-on pack for conversion of latest-model T-72s into RC drone tanks. Kinda like an IFV carrying a crack squad of World of Tanks players...

    Certainly if you redesign the T-72 to be without a crew the entire turret ring becomes available for ready to use ammo, so it could use a double layer autoloader instead a single layer one for 22 rounds of ammo ready to use.

    That would mean 44 rounds of ready to fire ammo even without any turret bustle arrangement.

    A turret bustle arrangement with, say a further 22 rounds of long penetrator rounds in a straight push load configuration would allow very long penetrators to be carried... the Burlak turret added 31 rounds in the turret bustle and included propellent stubs... I would make the current two layer underfloor autoloader with one layer for propellent stubs and one for live rounds into a 5 layer autoloader with two complete layers for ammo, plus three layers for propellent stubs... that means the turret bustle will have long rod penetrators that are simply pushed straight into the gun breach with the propellent stub coming from the internal and better protected autoloader... for a total of 66 ready to fire rounds of ammo including 22 super long projectiles... all immediately ready to fire.


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  eehnie on Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:03 pm

    According to the news Russia will include in the State Armament Program 2018-2025:

    1 Project 23000 Aircraft Carrier
    2 Project ????? Amphibious Assault Ships (Helicopter Carriers).

    Tsavo Lion posted two very interesting news

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t6686p400-russian-navy-status-news-3#198032

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    https://utro.ru/articles/2017/06/28/1331900.shtml
    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Futro.ru%2Farticles%2F2017%2F06%2F28%2F1331900.shtml

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  eehnie on Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:28 pm

    Update of a previous post of the page 14 of this topic about what I expect of the State Armament Program 2018-2025:

    Before the begin of the future State Armament Program 2018-2025, there are some questions that I would expect to be solved. First, the delivery of the first unit of the S-350, Mi-38, Ka-60/62 and Yak-152 seems assured this year (if has not been done at this point). Finally, the total decommission (including of the reserve) of the Kraz-214, Kraz-255, Kraz-260, Zil-130, 100mm BS-3, 023mm ZU-23(-2), GT-MU, T-54, AT-T and Be-12, can be finnished before 2018.

    What I would expect of the State Armament Program 2018-2025:

    1.- To assure common standards in procurement and decommissions for land forces, common standards for sea forces, common standards for aerospace forces, common standards for land forces deployed by air and sea means, and common standards for military intelligence:

    Russian Army
    Russian Strategic Missile Troops
    Russian Military Police
    Russian Air Defence Troops
    Russian Coastal Troops

    Russian Aerospace Forces
    Russian Naval Aviation
    Russian Army Aviation

    Russian Navy

    Russian Airborne Troops
    Russian Naval Infantry
    Russian Navy Special Forces

    Main Intelligence Directorate

    2.- To define more clearly the limits for the equipment exclusive of the Russian Armed Forces. I would expect a militarization of some warfare that is now managed by non military security forces. It means the transference of low amounts of:

    Project 11351 (3 units from R Coast Guard to R Navy)
    Project 1265 (1 unit from R Coast Guard to R Navy)
    Project 1330 (5 units from R Coast Guard to R Navy)
    Project T-4 (3 units from R Coast Guard to R Navy)
    Project 1176 (2 units from R Coast Guard to R Navy)
    2S1 (12 units from Border Service of the FSB to R Army)

    3.- To finnish the process of replacement of foreign components, and a plan for the scrapping, sale or demilitarization of foreign material of the Russian Armed Forces. It would include foreign designs, but not Russian or Sovietic designs produced out of Russia.

    Dry cargo ships purchased for the operation in Syria

    Type Dora
    Type Dubna
    Project REF-675
    Project REF-100
    Project R-5757
    Project UK-3
    Project V92
    Project V820
    L-39
    L-410

    An-140
    Iveco LMV
    IC16M Project IC16MII
    An-148/158/178

    4.- Total retirement from active service of the last heavy towed weapons except the biggest Surface-Air (A-135) and Surface-Surface (SS-18 and SS-19) missiles. In the case of the (M)T-12 I expect a total decommission with a retirement also of the reserve:

    2A19/29 (M)T-12

    2B16 Nona-K
    2A36 Giatsint-B
    2A18 D-30
    2A65 Msta-B

    5.- To exclude since the begin the procurement of the foreign and relatively weakest, less standard (including launched grenades) and less modern weapons (including the last variants) and auxiliary equipment in production:

    An-140
    Iveco LMV
    IC16M Project IC16MII
    An-148/158/178

    2A19/29 (M)T-12

    2A65 Msta-B

    SPG-9
    2B14 Podnos
    GM-93/94 (LPO-97)

    2S23
    SA-13
    BTR-80
    MT-LB
    BPM-97 (4x4)
    BMD-4

    6.- Upgrade on self propelled Surface-Surface, Surface-Air and Artillery warfare, with the replacement of the tractor elements with unarmoured cabin by (more standardized) tractor elements with armoured cabin, according to the modern safety standards for the rest of the land warfare, and to make full mobile the SS-29, SS-27 and SS-C-1. The retired unarmoured tractor elements can be used as military auxiliary vehicles in non-contested areas (transport, engineering,...), in agreement with the situation of use of every type of vehicle, and affecting to the procurement of land auxiliary vehicles:

    SS-29
    SS-27
    SS-25
    SS-26
    SS-21
    SS-1
    SS-C-7
    SS-C-6
    SS-C-5
    SS-C-3
    SS-C-1
    BM-30
    BM-27

    SA-21
    SA-10/12/20/23
    SA-22
    SA-8

    A-222

    BM-21

    7.- Very intense procurement in relative terms on:

    Surface-Air systems (by lack os saturation of the reserve)

    Infantry Vehicles (to improve the fleet toward the modern standards)

    8.- Finalisation of the development of new weapons and non-combat equipment, and delivery of the first unit, to complete the new generation of equipment developed in the first quarter of the XXI century. Listed the key projects (except components but including ammunition) where the first unit is not in production in 2017. Bolded the projects where the timeline still assures not a first unit by 2025, and something else that I think would be interesting:

    New ammunition for the SA-4 tractors (I see not news despite a lack of projects for new surface-air systems/ammunition for the 15-50Km range, approximately the original range of the SA-4)
    New ammunition for the 125mm tanks of range over 17.5 Km to allow them to fight also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons of the adversary.
    New ammunition for the TOS-1 of range over 17.5 Km to allow them to fight also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons of the adversary.

    A-235
    SS-30/RS-28

    Project 23000 (multirole Aircraft Carrier)
    Project 23560 (multirole Cruiser/Destroyer)
    Project ????? Lavina or Project ????? Priboi (multirole Amphibious Ship)

    SA-??/S-500
    SA-??/Morphey
    SS-31/RS-26
    TOS BM2 with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons. (Armata platform)
    SS-32/RS-27?
    2S?? 125mm Sprut SDM-1 with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons.(BMD-4M platform)
    2S?? 120mm Lotos (BMD-4M platform)
    2S?? 240mm that combines direct and indirect (mortar) fire. Successor of the 2S4 at production level. (Armata platform)
    2S?? 203mm for long range direct fire. Successor of the 2S7 at production level. (Armata platform)
    2S?? 203mm that combines direct and indirect (mortar) fire. New. (Armata platform)
    2S?? 152mm that combines direct and indirect (mortar) fire. New. (Armata platform)
    2S?? 152mm that combines direct and indirect (mortar) fire. Successor of the 2S34 at production level. (Kurganets platform)
    2S?? 152mm for agile direct fire, antitank role, with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons. New.(Kurganets platform)
    2S?? 125mm for agile direct fire, antitank role, with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons. Successor of the BMP-3 100mm at production level. (Kurganets platform)
    2S?? 152mm that combines direct and indirect (mortar) fire. Successor of the 2S23 at production level. (Bumerang platform)
    2S?? 152mm for agile direct fire, antitank role, with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons. New. (Bumerang platform)
    2S?? 125mm for agile direct fire, antitank role, with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons. New. (Bumerang platform)
    T-14 152mm with some ammunition of range over 17.5 Km to be able to work also from outside of the range of man-portable weapons. (Armata platform)
    BMPT Terminator 3 with some weapon that allows to the project to work also outside of the range of the portable/man-portable weapons of the adversary. (Armata platform)
    BMO-2 (Armata platform APC)
    T-16 (Armata platform engineering vehicles)

    Tu-PAK-DA
    MiG-41/PAK-DP

    Mi-46 (in the An-24/26/30/32 size class with around 10 tons payload).
    Il-214 40 or Tu-330 (transport in the Tu-204/214 size class with around 40 tons payload, with the 3 sizes philosophy).
    Ka-102 (in the An-72/74 size class with around 15 tons payload).
    PTS 80 or Il-106 (transport in the An-22 size class with around 80 tons payload, with the 3 sizes philosophy).
    Il-214 20 (transport in the An-10/12 size class with around 20 tons payload, with the 3 sizes philosophy).
    PTS 160 (transport in the An-124 size class with around 160 tons payload, with the 3 sizes philosophy).
    Il-214 60 (transport in the Il-76/78 Be-A50 size class with around 60 tons payload, with the 3 sizes philosophy).

    Current key projects where a timeline longer than 2025 for the delivery of the first unit would not be a problem from a military point (bolded the most interesting and innovative projects for the next generation):

    Yak-135 as light supersonic trainer (plus FGA to export)
    Il-PAK-TA as supersonic transport
    Unmanned Long Range Shipborne Maritime Patrol VTOL aircraft/helicopter
    Unmanned Combat Helicopter compatible with all the branches of the Russian Armed Forces

    Il-90 or Frigate Ecojet (airliner in the Il-62 size class for double configuration: 1 mid passenger capacity + long range, 2 high passenger capacity + mid range).
    Tu-304 or Comac C929 (airliner in the Il-86/80/96 size class for high passenger capacity + long range).
    MS-21/Yak-242 (airliner in the Tu-204/214 size class for mid passenger capacity + mid range).

    It is necessary to analyze if the rest of the new projects of heavy equipment known publicly, maybe only a distraction of efforts and funds.

    In overall terms, in the following years, the total decommission (including of the reserve) of the relatively weakest, less standardized and/or less modern material, is likely to come (except in the case of the foreign material included in the point 3) by natural exhaustion after its use by the Russian armed forces, because of external demand or by transference to Russian non-military security forces in the case of the exceeding less modern infantry vehicles. With the likely apparition of Rocket Assisted Projectiles for 125mm (that should have longer range than the 120mm RAP) and longer range rockets of 220mm for the TOS-1, the (M)T-12 would be the alone remaining heavy equipment that must be always inside the range of portable/man-portable weapons of the adversary to do its work, and is likely to be used and totally disappear first.

    Also, in the refered to the point 5, to note that I do not expect to see completed the order of Be-200 for the role of maritime patrol. While the selection of the Be-200 and Be-A-42 for the role of maritime patrol is right according to the old model of maritime patrol, a new more modern alternative is coming fast with the development of long range shipborne unmanned aircrafts (including VTOL aircraft/helicopters). The Be-200 has a future as civil aircraft, but for military use, a more modern alternative is too close to spend on new aircrafts of the old mold. The Russian Naval Aviation needs to share procurement standards with the Russian Aerospace Forces, like is said in the point 1, avoiding an image of less technologically advanced air force.

    Filnally, there is a potential decission to be made. It is about the adoption of standard calibers for launched grenades (30mm, 45mm and 73mm, the last likely to disappear in the future). For it the 40mm and 43mm grenades can be moved to the standard 45mm caliber. It would be an improvement in standardization and also in the power of the projectiles. Note that the GP-25, GP-30 and GP-34 are not in the list of the point 5 because are a component, but if this decission is made, their production would be stopped too as 40mm grenade launchers.


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:14 am

    US DIA Report : Russia Military Power

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:58 pm

    MOSCOW, July 26 (Itar-Tass) - RIA Novosti. "Defense" in the second quarter supplied the brigade set of Iskander-M, 11 planes, 6 helicopters, 60 cruise missiles Caliber and weapons and equipment to the Russian Armed Forces, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Wednesday.

    "During this time, the enterprises of the military-industrial complex supplied to the troops more than 600 new and 300 repaired weapons, military and special equipment," Shoigu stated on a single day of acceptance of military products.

    The delivered equipment includes a brigade of the Iskander-M operational-tactical missile system, 11 aircraft and 6 helicopters, 9 radar stations, the multi-purpose patrol ship Sovershenny, two raid boats, a heavy floating berth for the Borey class missile submarine cruiser, And 60 sea-based cruise missiles Caliber.

    "The next technical position of the modernized command post of the unified space system has been created," the minister added.

    According to Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov, the Russian Navy for the second quarter also received 42 torpedoes, three submarines that were docked, a large anti-sabotage boat and two Su-ZSMM fighters.

    He recalled that on June 26 the nuclear-powered submarine cruiser of Project 955 "Yuri Dolgoruky" from the underwater situation in the Barents Sea successfully hit the target at the Kura test range with a ballistic missile "Bulava".


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    Post  franco on Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:09 pm

    During the Single Day of Military Acceptance, Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Yury Borisov reported that in the second quarter of this year, the Russian Army received almost 200 armored vehicles.

    "In the second quarter, 35 new and 155 repaired tanks and armored combat vehicles were accepted by the military missions at industrial enterprises in the interests of the Ground Forces," the deputy head of the military department said.

    He also noted that the brigade set of the Iskander-M missile system, 4 new artillery reconnaissance units and 10 self-propelled howitzers, 38 new and 68 repair communications complexes were adopted.

    In addition, Yuri Borisov said that in the part of the Ground Forces, 500 new and 273 repaired vehicles were delivered, and about 9,000 munitions of various purposes.

    According to the Deputy Minister of Defense, in the second quarter of the current year, in addition to the Corvette "Perfect", the Russian Navy also received more than 60 cruise missiles Caliber, 42 torpedoes, 3 submarines that were docked, a large anti-saboteur and two Su- -Z0SM.

    Yury Borisov reminded that on June 26 the nuclear-powered submarine cruiser of Project 955 "Yuri Dolgoruky" from the underwater situation in the Barents Sea successfully hit a target at the Kura test range with a ballistic missile "Bulava".

    As for the Air and Space Forces of Russia, they, as noted by the Deputy Defense Minister, received over 70 new and renovated aircraft and helicopters in the second quarter of this year.

    "9 new and 45 refurbished aircraft were modernized, 6 new and 11 were repaired with the modernization of helicopters," Yuri Borisov specified.

    Also, according to him, 9 new and 10 past repairers with modernization of radar stations, a Pantsir-S combat vehicle and four repaired anti-aircraft missile systems were delivered to the combat units of the VKS. Also, the enterprises of industry delivered four electronic warfare complexes "Vitebsk".

    The Deputy Minister of Defense reported that in May and June of this year, three spacecraft, including a special-purpose satellite, were launched into Earth's orbit.

    "On May 25 and June 23, 2017, launches of Soyuz-2.1b and Soyuz-2.1v launch vehicles from the Plesetsk cosmodrome (Arkhangelsk region) took place. Spacecraft Kosmos, Tundra and a special-purpose spacecraft were launched into orbit, Yuri Borisov said. In his estimation, all the launches were successful.

    "Taking into account the armaments and military equipment (WME) delivered since the beginning of the year, the level of equipping troops with modern, promising samples in the first half of the year increased by more than 0.5% and now stands at 58.8%," the deputy defense minister said.
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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:43 am

    Implementation of the State Defense Order at the Kurgan Machine-Building Plant

    Press Service of the Concern Tractor Plants on August 7, 2017 issued a press release stating that OAO Kurganmashzavod, Russia's leading co-generation enterprise for the production of caterpillar light-armored vehicles, part of the Tractor Plants Concern, Implementation of 11 state contracts. The state defense order of the current year was fulfilled by 63%.

    At the moment, five contracts have been closed - for the supply of the troops of BTR-MDM, BREM-L, and three - for spare parts for BMD-2, BMP-2 and BMP-3.

    Six contracts are still in operation. By the end of the year, a three-year contract for the delivery of BMP-3 will be completed, to date it has been executed by 70%. 93% completed the three-year STC for the production of BMD-4M, in August, the final shipment of modernized amphibious vehicles will be carried out. The first batch of BREM-L was sent to the troops.

    The work within the framework of the implementation of the state armament program at Kurganmashzavod will continue in the coming years. Long-term contracts have already been signed for the supply of BMP-3 with the latest modification and BREM-L. In August, it is expected to conclude an agreement with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for delivery of landing equipment - BMD-4M and BTR-MDM.

    At Kurganmashzavod it is also planned to increase the production of spare parts for combat vehicles operating in military units within the framework of the GOZ.

    It should be noted that over the past three years, at the Kurganmashzavod, the volumes of production of special purpose within the framework of the state defense order have doubled, compared to the previous years. And this progressive growth made it possible to fully mobilize the collective of the enterprise, to use all material resources for responsible and qualitative fulfillment of the tasks set by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.



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    Post  franco on Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:49 pm

    The behind the scene "armament" program... ie the new buildings, bases and storage hangers.

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