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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:42 pm

    Russian Navy Receives Sub, 7 Ships, 7 Aircraft, Missile Systems

    The Russian Navy received one submarine and seven warships and auxiliary vessels along with seven aircraft and other equipment in the third quarter of 2015, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said Friday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Speaking at a military procurement day, the defense official said the delivery plan was 25.8-percent complete, while the Navy was 45.7-percent supplied with modern types of equipment and weapons.

    "A Project 877 submarine, seven auxiliary ships and vessels, seven aircraft, 10 air defense missiles, two radar locators, one Bastion mobile coastal defense missile system were accepted in the interest of the Navy," Borisov said.

    Borisov said nearly 2,500 pieces of equipment had been delivered to the Russian Airborne Forces and two new early warning network satellites to the Aerospace Forces in the August-October period.

    Russia is currently carrying out a $325-billion rearmament program to modernize 70 percent of its military equipment by 2020.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151009/1028287917/russian-navy-new-sub-ships.html#ixzz3oAFBWamy


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  George1 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:40 pm

    Russia's 2015 State Arms Procurement to be 100% Complete


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:39 pm

    Putin Signs Decree Implementing Defense Plan for 2016-2020

    According to a document published on Tuesday, Vladimir Putin has signed a decree implementing the country’s defense plans for 2016-2020.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree implementing the country’s defense plans for 2016-2020, according to a document published on Tuesday.

    “Implement starting from January 1, 2016, the Russian Defense Plan for 2016-2020,” the document reads.

    Russia is currently undergoing a $325-billion rearmament program to achieve a 70-percent modernization of its military by 2020.

    Over 17,000 weapons and items of military equipment have been delivered to the Russian armed forces in 2015, according to Russia’s National Defense Management Center.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151117/1030235953/putin-defense-plan.html#ixzz3rkgFRx1n


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  par far on Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:40 pm

    Do we what new equipment will be delivered to the Russian Army, the Russian Air Force and Russian Navy in 2016? What new things will happen in 2016 for the Russian Army?

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:42 pm

    MOSCOW, December 4 - RIA Novosti. The state defense order in 2015 will be made ​​by approximately 96%, are large-scale work on import substitution in the field of defense industry, said Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin in an interview with television channel NTV.

    "We plan that this year will leave about 96% of the state defense order execution. Why? Because we have a large number of activities related to import substitution. Go short supply of equipment and components that had previously been ordered from partners abroad," - said vice- Prime Rogozin.
    At the same time this year the rate of implementation of the state defense order better compared to previous years, the volume of state defense order has grown by half, said Rogozin.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:44 pm

    Medvedev: Rearmament program until 2020 will be executed


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:13 pm

    One of the news agencies a day or two ago stated that there is talk ongoing and work for state program from 2016 to 2025.  I would wager though it is smarter to wait till near end of 2020 to determin the next 5 years of spending and what is needed, rather than throwing money around.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:26 pm

    Russia to continue rearming at ~200 aircraft and ~600 AFV's per year;
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/843801

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:21 pm

    I cannot locate the article at the moment but it was out in the previous couple of weeks in regards to the replacement of foreign parts for the Defense industry. In it was mentioned that at the present there are over a 100 new and rebuilt military equipment unable to be completed due to lack of parts and that over 600 repairs are unable to be completed for the same reason. Could be sometime into 2017 before all these issues are resolved. Comment came from either Rogozin or some MoD spokesperson.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:34 pm

    franco wrote:Russia to continue rearming at ~200 aircraft and ~600 AFV's per year;
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/843801
    Good news. 

    As for the equipment that is waiting for spares from import substitution, any clue what they may be?

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:41 pm

    No it didn't specify. Just felt it was an important piece to share.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:53 pm

    franco wrote:No it didn't specify. Just felt it was an important piece to share.
    Very important.  It shows the need for import substitution and doing things domestically.

    I still am gloating over how I mentioned importing and JV for military was dangerous for Russia and how I was lambasted for it.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:48 am

    JVs and imports make sense when they are available as it is cheaper and quicker than having to make things yourself.

    Obviously when there is a threat that such things might be cut off or stopped by politics then making everything yourself makes sense.

    It does not make sense until there is no other choice.

    For the same reason you personally don't make everything you own yourself do you?

    It doesn't make sense... until you are dropped on an island in the middle of a very large ocean where you have nothing and have to make everything yourself... that which you cannot make you do without.

    gloating over this current situation is a bit like supporting the idea that I should be telling you to throw away everything you currently own and then make it all yourself from scratch... of course you would not do it now... but if you were in a plane crash on a desert island you would have no choice... and the stinging memory that I told you so... if you had listened to me you would have the skills to make a lot of things for yourself... afro


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  par far on Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:06 pm

    Tank moderaztion:

    http://southfront.org/russia-military-report-a-tale-of-three-tanks/


    Nuclear moderaztion:

    http://southfront.org/russia-military-report-nuclear-triad-modernization/


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:11 pm

    2015 ended and it's time to sum up the work of the Russian military-industrial complex, and compare them with the results of last year. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in the framework of the state defense order this year is at 7% more military equipment than in the past, and do deliveries are made on 96% (95% in 2014). To obtain a more complete picture you need to pay attention to certain categories of military equipment.

    Aviation equipment - less than last year

    In 2015, Air-Space Forces of the Russian Federation (FSI) received 243 aircraft and helicopters - a little less than in 2014, while the troops were 277 aircraft. Keep in mind that this figure takes into account the technology, the modernization of the past, not only built from scratch. If you take only new products in the past year we received a record number of videoconferencing aircraft - 108 units.
    This year, counting some complexity; less information: for sure you can talk about the supply of 18 multi-role fighters Su-30cm, 4 Su-30M2 (according to the plans 5 may open information is incomplete), 18 Sukhoi Su-34 (2 over the plan), not less than 6 Su-35 (although the plan they were 14, it is possible that a transfer of a part of these official information did not appear), not less than 6 light MiG-29 SMT (P) / UX (R) (possibly Cool, 12 training Yak-130, 1 military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A, An-148-100E 1 (maybe 2). In total - is 66-78 aircraft. That is, even in the most favorable case, released on 30 cars less (27% less). The reasons for this are different: out of contracts for Su-35s (new contract for 48 aircraft has not been signed) and deck MiG-29K aircraft An-148 and An-140 made without cooperation with Ukraine is problematic for the Yak-130 had some difficulties with the rapid import substitution. Nevertheless, the result is still not bad, considering the economic problems and the question of establishing local production of components.
    As for the helicopters - detailed data in this year's smaller, but, apparently, the number of helicopters produced much has changed. With regard to the modernization of existing equipment, its rates remain high.

    Strategic Nuclear Forces - actively replenished as before
    In 2015, the "nuclear triad" received 35 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) - are expected to land 24 RS-24 "yars", and the rest - P-30 "Bulava", which are equipped with submarines of Project 955 "Borey". Last year it was built 38 ICBMs, including 16 "Yarsov" and 22 "Bulava". Thus, in the field of problems or significant changes there - no country in the world is not even close to such indicators. At the current rate by 2022 in service of the Russian Federation will be the only modern ICBMs.
    Along with the construction of new ICBMs, strategic forces also got past modernization bombers - Tu-160M ​​2, 3 Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3 5. Navy also received two missile submarines of Project 955 "Borey" carrying 16 ICBMs "Bulava".

    Manufacturing technology and the modernization of the land has remained at about the same level as last year, for example, still received two sets of missile brigade "Iskander-M". In total, modernized and built up to 1172 units of armored vehicles (tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, armored vehicles), 148 rocket and artillery systems and up to 2292 vehicles. But the main novelty was the new generation of armored vehicles, pre-series batch which is shown in the Victory Parade on May 9 in Moscow. Were demonstrated tank T-14 heavy infantry fighting vehicles T-15 created Undercarriage "Armata", infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers on the basis of track platform "Kurganets-25" wheeled APCs "Boomerang", 152-mm self-propelled howitzer "Coalition-SV" .

    Air defenses were also reported in the planned amount

    Military shipbuilding - the most vulnerable sector
    Russian Navy was in 2015, two diesel-electric submarine project 636.6 "Warszawianka" (1 in 2014), 2 nuclear submarine Project 955 "Borey" (1 in 2014), two small missile ship project 21631 and other ships: in total 8 surface and 16 support vessels.
    In addition, the state tests patrol ship project 11356 "Admiral Grigorovich" (to be adopted in February 2016). Two more ships of this type will be commissioned in 2016. But associated with them, and a big problem - the ships of the project established Ukrainian power plants, so the fate of the 3 more ships under construction a few vague, although the construction and start again.
    In general, the Navy may be affected by the economic crisis and sanctions hardest: the industry was in a very serious condition, the large surface ships were not built for many years, so the "save" means the budget, probably, it is the shipbuilders. Enough hard problem is the dependence on the Ukrainian and German power plants that are now impossible to buy.

    Sanctions and "cheap oil" could not seriously harm the Russian military-industrial complex

    The main conclusion is that Western sanctions and economic crisis in two years could not fundamentally affect the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation - there were some problems in some sectors, many of which have been solved, while others need to be addressed (for example, personal "extremely" complicated Ukrainian analogues in the manufacture of ship propulsion systems in RF not simply because this Soviet design, thus - a matter of time). However, the next 2-3 years will be very revealing - primarily because of the problems in the economy. The first task for the military-industrial complex - run state armaments program until 2020. Just the results of 2016, 2017 and 2018 and show us whether the Russian "defense industry" stand up the pace. In addition, you must have an active work on the state armaments program until 2025 (its adoption is postponed due to the unpredictable economic situation in the country).

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:14 pm

    More of the same....

    Equipping the Armed Forces with modern samples reached 47%. At the enlarged session of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was submitted a report on the outcome of the War Department for 2015 According to the document, according to the results of the growth of the state defense order supplies to the troops of the new weapons and equipment amounted to 7% compared to the 2014 Armed Facilities Forces (AF) modern samples reached 47% (target current state armaments program - 2020 to bring the latest technology to share 70%). December 30, 2015 Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said in an interview to television channel "Russia-24" that the state defense order will be executed in 2015 by about 96%. An overview of new military equipment, which went into operation the Russian Armed Forces in 2015 Strategic Nuclear Forces (SNF) - The Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) on combat duty have taken up 6 missile regiments equipped with stationary and mobile missile complexes RS-24 "yars". The share of modern weapons in ground-based strategic nuclear forces (SNF) has reached 51%, in constant combat readiness contains 95% launchers. - Aircraft component SNF replenished with ten modernized aircraft: Long-range aviation has received 2 strategic bomber-rocket carrier Tu-160M, 3 strategic bomber-rocket carrier Tu-95MS and 5 long-range supersonic bomber Tu-22M3. - Entered in the combat-ready naval forces 2 missile submarine of strategic purpose (SSBN) project 955 "Borey" - K-550 "Alexander Nevsky" K-551 "Vladimir Monomakh". Facilities marine strategic nuclear forces with modern weapons was 56%. - Total SNF in 2015 were delivered 35 new intercontinental ballistic missiles, causing equipment "nuclear triad" of strategic nuclear forces with modern arms has reached 55%.

    Aerospace forces August 1 on the basis of the Air Force (Air Force) and the troops Aerospace Defense (VVKO) created a new branch of the armed forces - the Air-Space Forces (VKS). Was transformed 6 Army and Air Force and Air Defence 3 aircraft division, formed 12 aviation regiments. In the Northern Fleet formed 45th Army Air Force and Air Defense. Within the framework of the state defense order in 2015 VCS received 243 new aircrafts. According from public sources, this figure includes: 18 Sukhoi Su-34; 18 Su-30SM; at least 4 Su-30M2; at least 6 Su-35S; at least 4 MiG-29 SMT (P); 12 combat training aircraft Yak-130; 1 heavy military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A; at least 1 passenger aircraft An-148-100E; 16 Ka-52 helicopters; at least 3 Mi-8MTV5-1; at least 2 helicopters "Ansat-U". Were upgraded 11 fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM and 1 airborne command post IL-80. Troops EKR received 90 anti-aircraft missile systems and complexes, 208 radar systems. As a result, the share of modern weapons in video conferencing has reached 52%.

    Land Forces (SV) In 2015, the Armed Forces formed 8 new Brigades for various purposes. The troops received: 2 brigade sets of missile complexes "Iskander-M"; 1,172 units of equipment, including tanks (including modified T-72B3) and other armored vehicles; 148 rocket and artillery systems; 2,292 car for different purposes. The level of equipment with modern weapons SV reached 35%. May 9, 2015 at the Victory Parade in Moscow were officially presented promising military equipment - tanks T-14 and T-15 infantry fighting vehicles to heavy tracked unified platform "Armata", armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles on the track platform "Kurganets-25" on the APC wheel platform "Boomerang" and self-propelled howitzers "Coalition-SV".

    Navy (Navy) The Navy received 8 new surface warships and 16 support vessels. In the Navy included: 2 diesel-electric submarines of Project 06363 - B-265 "Krasnodar" and B-262 "Stary Oskol"; 2 small missile ship project 21631 - "Green Dol" and "Serpukhov". Returned to service after the repair of the submarine B-227 "Vyborg" Project 877, K-335 "Cheetah" Project 971 and B-336 "Pskov" Project 945A. Also in the operation included patrol boat project 03160, anti-sabotage boat project 21980, landing craft projects 21820 and 02510, ship communication, "Yuri Ivanov" Project 18280, boats, catamarans search and rescue support project 23370, transport Floating Dock Project 22570 "Sviyaga" Marine Transportation of weapons "Academician Kovalev" project 20181, and others. The level of equipment of the Navy with modern ships reached 39%.

    Besides Specialists of the Russian Armed Forces currently operate 1,720 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), "drones" are taking part in combat operations on the territory of Syria. For comparison, in 2011 the Russian Air Force used a total of 180 UAV. The first stage of the Unified Space System. Enacted its West modernized command post in the Central Federal District, conducted training ground facilities Plesetsk cosmodrome. In November, launched the first spacecraft system.

    In 2016 the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation plans to: Put in SV 2 brigade sets of missile complexes "Iskander-M" and multiple launch rocket systems "Tornado-C", and 1 set of Brigadier anti-missile system "Buk-M3." Rearm 6 battalions on new tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. Put in VKS and aircraft of the Navy more than 200 new and upgraded models of aircraft. Rearm 5 anti-aircraft missile regiment in the anti-aircraft missile system S-400. Build group of United Space Systems to launch another device of the system. Put on alert 3 radar station - "Voronezh-DM" Yeniseysk and Barnaul and "Voronezh-M" in Orsk. Enter the Navy 2 multi-purpose submarines and surface warships 7.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:12 pm

    http://tass.ru/en/defense/849380

    So Kudrin believes that in 2 - 3 years time, if current economic situations holds same (unlikely) that defense spending will have to be reduced.  He makes good points but main point should be made is to stretch out sap2020 to possibly 2025 so it can still meet the needs of the military, just reduced perchases per year to save money but in longer run, get same needed numbers of new equipment.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Kimppis on Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:56 pm

    It certainly must be cut if there will be basically no growth in the next few years, but indeed that seems to be quite unlikely. But even if they have to cut military spending, it seems that they SAP2020 will be largely achieved by 2020. I mean they are already at over 47% "modern", so I think they can quite "easily" reach something like 60% even in the worst case scenario by the end of 2020. They have to keep factories running after all.

    How many rubles is Russia earning per barrel at the moment? Oil has gone down to around $35 (EDIT: Urals seems to be slightly below $30), but the ruble has also weakened somewhat.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:11 pm

    Well, brent oil is at $30 and Rub is at 76rub/usd. So for 1,000,000 barrels, they are getting 2.28B rubles (forgot the 30x part thanks Franco).

    By 2020, I imagine a huge part of the airforce will be modernized and other areas like Army and Navy will be left as the ones needing concentration.  I just imagine instead of lets say 50 Su-35's for 2019 and 30 for 2020 order (theoretically), they would opt for lets say 40 for 2019 and 40 for 2020.  This is all an example of hypothetical situation.  But in that case, saving money on 10 aircraft for 2019 could wager a savings of 2.28B rubles and they would end up with same # of Su-35 in the end (just later date).

    Ultimately, as the % of modernized equipment gets closer to the mark, the less money that will be required in future orders to meet the rest of the demand, so ultimately, defense spending will drop.  I imagine next saps will be much smaller than this one.

    Will be overall good if they can not only save money, but also keep steady work for the industries and still have additional finding for R&D.  But reality might be Russia would have to find some sort of middle ground. Lets say purchase newer but cheaper equipment than the more expensive equipment.  If Pak Fa is too expensive, they may opt for an alternative (cheaper but still uses a lot of the technology learned). And instead of new destroyers like Lider, they may opt for more frigates/corvettes.  Things like purchases of tanks is hard decision.  T-90MS would be much cheaper than Armata, but only in short term.  Key here is the chasis is what will make it fundamentally cheaper in long run due to similar components between various classes (Armata to Kurganets to Boomerang).


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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  franco on Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:15 pm

    Check your math! Should be $30 x 76 = 2280 Rubles per barrel.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:17 pm

    I screwed up. So it is 2.28B rubles.

    Forgot the 30x part.  As well, Billion, not trillion.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  Backinblack on Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:42 pm

    Piece of news about Russian State Armaments Program 2011-2020:

    Russian Media Revealed Growing Breaches in Multibillion Defense Contracts
    http://mil.today/2016/Weapons2/

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:57 pm

    Backinblack wrote:Piece of news about Russian State Armaments Program 2011-2020:

    Russian Media Revealed Growing Breaches in Multibillion Defense Contracts
    http://mil.today/2016/Weapons2/

    ...Interesting enough Navalny is involved in "exposing corruption"...I stopped reading when that douche's name was mentioned.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  sepheronx on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:01 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Backinblack wrote:Piece of news about Russian State Armaments Program 2011-2020:

    Russian Media Revealed Growing Breaches in Multibillion Defense Contracts
    http://mil.today/2016/Weapons2/

    ...Interesting enough Navalny is involved in "exposing corruption"...I stopped reading when that douche's name was mentioned.

    I added a comment to the article. Essentially, there was no talks of cutting defense spending, and I have no idea where they are getting this info from, because I cannot find anything. I posted even Medvedev's statement of SAP2020 has priority and wont be cut. So the statements are odd from what is being stated about. And yes, Navalny is a joke.

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    Re: State Armaments Program 2011-2020

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:27 pm

    Someone using the courts to get paid.

    YEKATERINBURG, February 9. /TASS/. A bankruptcy petition regarding Kurganmashzavod (KMZ) - Russia’s only enterprise manufacturing infantry fighting vehicles (BMP) - has been filed with the Kurgan Arbitration Court, the court press service told TASS Tuesday. The petitioner is MTE Group registered in Moscow.

    "The petition is connected with arrears on lease contracts of MTE Group and KMZ. Earlier the companies struck an amicable agreement, under which KMZ was to pay in two stages 41 million rubles ($515,000) of total debt on lease payments and some 1.9 million rubles ($23,800) of cancelation penalty," the press service said. The court said Kurganmashzavod only paid 276,000 rubles ($3,460) out of the debt. "That’s why MTE Group demands that the plant be recognized bankrupt and that a bankruptcy commissioner be appointed," it said. The petition was filed February 5 and has not yet been accepted for hearing. TASS was unable to get a comment from the plant.

    KMZ, making part of Tractor Plants concern, is Russia’s only enterprise producing infantry fighting vehicles being in operational service with the armies of nearly 30 countries. KMZ in 2015 struck a long-term contract with Russia’s Defense Ministry to supply in 2015-2017 more than 200 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles to Russian army units. KMZ had wage arrears and a debt for gas to Gazprom mezhregiongaz Kurgan company.


    http://tass.ru/en/defense/855565

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