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    Re: India's Foreign policy

    Post  Isos on Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:02 pm

    GarryB wrote:The Gripen is probably not as wonderful as the people trying to sell it make it out to be... I don't think it would be a dog, but at the end of the day in a competition between the Gripen and the F-16 then the F-16 would win simply because the competition wont be fair.

    The Gripen uses a lot of american parts including the engine and its main weapons, so I suspect the word will be... Buy the F-16 or get a Gripen without AMRAAM or an engine...

    BTW that still of that video is interesting... Russia is obviously over run by NATO when this map is depicting... western Russia is now Europe and the Asian portion is some new country called Siberia... amusing.

    Of course it also ignores the sea option of the northern route for transport to Europe too for which a few rail lines will likely be added to.

    Only stupid people can choose gripen. It is actually build with parts coming from all over western countries. Get mad one of them and they can block supplying parts for the fleet and ground it.

    Gripen it is a piece of crap. It came in the last position in Swiss competition behind rafale and typhoon. That was the official result of testing by the air force and not some comparison on forums. Moreover they discovered that the "cheap" maintenance and flying cost of gripen wasn't so much cheap but rather expensive.

    It still doesn't have the AESA radar, it has big rcs for its size with weapons, and I don't know why but people say it has the best ecm in the world while sweedish aren't known to be the best military technology makers neither do they invest that much money in that field neither do they have big companies to make state of art technology. Everything they did wasn't revolutionary or better than anything west or USSR had.

    On the other hand Pakistan and probably china know everything about the f-16. US won't sell them AMRAAMs or maybe a very downgraded version fearing that china may analyze it.

    So both choice are crap. Even modernized mig-21 is better for them.
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    Re: India's Foreign policy

    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:30 am

    ..Swedish aren't known to be the best military technology makers neither do they invest that much money in that field neither do they have big companies to make state of art technology. Everything they did wasn't revolutionary or better than anything west or USSR had.
    Not true! They were the 1st to field a double delta wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_35_Draken

    The Viggen holds the distinction of being the first canard design to be produced in quantity, maintaining their "armed neutrality" to stay out of WWIII.
    The Viggen was also the most advanced fighter jet in Europe until the introduction of the Panavia Tornado into operational service in 1981.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_37_Viggen

    In many ways, Thailand is the Sweden of SE Asia, & Brazil is India of S. America, so their choice is understandable:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen#Thailand
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen#Brazil


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    Re: India's Foreign policy

    Post  Isos on Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:13 pm


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