Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51

The better option would be to send the troops into through belarus, this would force Ukraine to deploy everything it can to protect the vital flank as they have lots of supplies coming in through their.

Unless the russians are worried they cannot properly supply or support the 2nd front from that direction.

Regardless if true this is something they should have done day 1, the fact it took them so long to reach the conclusion this was necessary is sad

they thought the enemy would flee... Shocked is it possible people are this stupid? You arrive with light infantry, they have tanks, arty, air power, mlrs. And you expect them to flee? I have no words.

Well when you hear from your own side and you hear from your enemy which are you most hoping is right?

When moving forward you have to believe your leadership knows what it is doing and that they actually want to win this conflict.

How could they possibly get them to cross a river with minimal supplies if they knew the Russians are not fighting for territory, that instead they are trying to kill or capture as many ukrainian soldiers and equipment as they can with a small mobile force while preparing a much bigger force to go on the offensive when the enemy army show signs of real collapse...

The orcs are  not so much stupid as isolated from the truth. The ones that continue  fighting for Kiev after they have some time on the front line and manage to work out the truth for themselves... they are the stupid ones.

Regardless if true this is something they should have done day 1, the fact it took them so long to reach the conclusion this was necessary is sad

They are not stupid.... if they wanted to take the whole country then the basic tactics of blitzkrieg still work... armoured forces rushing forward destroying rear units bypassing strong points that infantry and artillery and air power deal with in their own time... the problem is that rapidly occupying all of the Ukraine needs a much bigger force than they were using which means lots more supply units, all of which would be horribly vulnerable to guerilla groups that would attack supply lines and take prisoners and chip away at the Russian forces while trying to remain elusive and hidden amongst the civilian population... you know... like the Taliban did to HATO for 20 years.

Instead of taking lots of territory, they created a meat grinder where Ukrainian troops came to them and were killed with air power and artillery and land mines and drones.

They have made many stupid choices in this war and that's not up for debate, boot lick all you wanr

It is already ongoing, I will focus your attention.
Generated inflation is nothing else rather than sucking the wealth accumulated by the generations of wealthy Europeans.
And the debt spiral is only starting.
Take a look at the debt created money they pumped under cover of post-covid economy restoration.
Here comes the interesting part : Poland was cut off those funds under some fishy causes smelling by a mile.
So the economy recovered and developed perfectly well without it.
There is no physical need for pumping into economy money created by debt emission. And the same scenario would have worked in every other EU member state. Euro average economy slide was 6.6% (!!), so there is no need for E2+ trillion "stimulation package". Especially if we consider that a lot of money was already pumped into it in tons of different programs.
So what is the goal of that?
Well, it is a horrific debt increase spread among all the Europeans, no matter how preventive their own governments has been. Debt emitted without EU nation states supervision and jurisdiction, but presented to them all as some fukin Xmas tree gifts. A friend of mine, who already calculated those money twice in his company budget, as he would benefit with those, answered to me "no, only part of it will be a loan, the other part will be a grant!".
Holly shit!
A loan you must give back, and a grant financed with ECB emitted bonds to be paid with interest later?
To finance something that already recovered all by itself?!?

Putin described this situation at Munich, back in 2007. He described perfectly well how the things will proceed in Europe, and where that all is going. And you know what? He was fukin' right with every single word, as fukin' ALWAYS

kvs wrote:The Kiev and north-east "parade" with around 100,000 troops was designed to shock and awe the Kiev regime into a peace deal.
It succeed in this regard until NATzO instructed the Kiev regime to tear it up.   I do not think it is a mistake to try to avoid bloody war.
The world knows what went down when BoJo visited Kiev.   Attempts to cover it up by claiming there were some other negotiations
that nobody every heard about before which Putin "broke off" are pathetic.
There was no military mistake.   No collection of Russian generals would believe that 100,000 troops are enough to take over the whole
of Ukria in a blitzkrieg.   Give them some credit, they are not internet fanboi wankers.

The worst in this story is a fact, that people with this kind of harsh statements are living in a bubble filled with own farts, unable to smell the roses.
First, you have a moron from the Pentagon claiming that Kiev will fall in 3 days.
One applies that moronic statement to the Russkie as a second step.
And call them ignorant because they have not succeeded in something that was never their goal.
It is fukin amazing, how short memory and lack of linking the dots some people can represent.

We have a nafo propagandists like Rob Lee that already admitted that all of the farts they made in early 2022 were a piece of shit based on crappy knowledge.
This house of cards is falling apart in front of us, yet there are still people who are trying to feed the people with coolaid and being shocked it isn't working anymore.
By April 2022 the original Ukrainian army was destroyed.
The one they have been building for 8 years. The one that was supplied by the whole collective west, fed with Wunderwaffles. With planes full of Javelins delivered daily basis, Bayraktars became a symbol.
Supplied by their own military&industrial complex that delivered high end production made in their own production hubs.
GPS guided 100+km range MLRS. 300 km ranged cruise missiles. Modern tanks. Serially upgraded Buk systems. Top notch antitank weapon, including a killer Stugna. And not much worse Korsar.
A fukin' 400+k strong army, national guard and other military, battle hardned, trained, equipped, motivated and nazi lead/oriented.
They have been smashed. Simply crushed, as a pig challenging RAM truck.
Oh yeah, sure. We had some vids for nafo incels to wank each other, showing some Russkie VDV BMDs burning, and corpses lined. We had a few ambushes, with the Russian armor columns being hit by both light AT weapon and artillery.
What did that changed?
By April 2022, this army was non existing, Zelensky was hiding in Poland, EU was shitting their pants, and a peace treaty was almost signed in Istambul.
I will repeat that again. All the blood is on the Anglosaxon hands, and I have no idea what arguments they have used to push the Ukro leading class to commit this mass suicide. Other than personal interests. All the bloody money they can steal.

They are doing the same for decades. What's new?

Late Roman Empire vibes, but back then the Germanics were the superior warrior stock compared to the indolent Romans so the empire was actually getting a pretty good deal for a time. Not comparable in any way to the third world detritus that will flood the ranks of the neo US army and will only drag down the institution further into the ground.

The Russian Armed Forces are breaking through to Chasov Yar in the Artemovsk direction

According to Come and See , the Russian army is actively advancing in the Artemovsk direction.

“Several positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been taken. Promotion is towards Chasov Yar,” said the channel’s source.

According to him, Ukrainian troops are retreating, including prisoners.

If Chasov Yar is captured, Russian troops will be able to threaten the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Kramatorsk.

And another Bradley got captured.