Because the company was dissolved.To date, PMC "Wagner" does not officially take part in hostilities.
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Hole wrote:Because the company was dissolved.To date, PMC "Wagner" does not officially take part in hostilities.
Some of it was rebranded and this would be the remnants of that along with whatever units they have in Syria and Africa.
sepheronx on Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:34 am
So about 6600 total. Not much. Mind you I would wager the other 20K of men already joined with Russian armed forces then.
These guys would be good to have as trainers as well as used in Africa all over.
Some joined the Regulars and some the Volunteers. Apparently there are companies (80-200 men) of Z-Storm (volunteers/assault troops) attached to each Regular brigade and regiment, which are from the old Wagner forces (convicts, etc).
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Updated Ukrainian view of Russian Forces inside the SVO
As of 1.02.2024, the combat personnel of the so-called "United Grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the south-western Theater of Operations", that is, precisely the grouping of the Russian army that operates on the territory of Ukraine:
- personnel – 469.8 thousand military personnel
- tanks (of all types) – 2797 units
- armored combat vehicles, including armored vehicles and multi-purpose tractors and BTR - 7218 units
- artillery systems, caliber from 100 mm - 4843 units
- multiple launch rocket systems – 1142 units
- launchers of tactical and operational-tactical missile systems – 48 units
Currently, in reserve (at all levels), the command of this group has:
- regiments (of all types, types and branches of the armed forces) – 17
- battalions (also of all types, types and branches of the armed forces) – 16
- consolidated and separate tactical detachments ("regiment-battalion" level) – 2
https://t.me/s/zvizdecmanhustu
Figures from the Ukrainians 3 months previously (10/29/2023):
- personnel – 441.7 thousand military personnel
- tanks – 2324 units
- armored combat vehicles, including armored vehicles – 5661 units
- artillery systems, caliber from 100 mm - 3148 units
- multiple launch rocket systems – 982 units
- launchers of the operational-tactical missile system – at least 46 units
As of 1.02.2024, the combat personnel of the so-called "United Grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the south-western Theater of Operations", that is, precisely the grouping of the Russian army that operates on the territory of Ukraine:
- personnel – 469.8 thousand military personnel
- tanks (of all types) – 2797 units
- armored combat vehicles, including armored vehicles and multi-purpose tractors and BTR - 7218 units
- artillery systems, caliber from 100 mm - 4843 units
- multiple launch rocket systems – 1142 units
- launchers of tactical and operational-tactical missile systems – 48 units
Currently, in reserve (at all levels), the command of this group has:
- regiments (of all types, types and branches of the armed forces) – 17
- battalions (also of all types, types and branches of the armed forces) – 16
- consolidated and separate tactical detachments ("regiment-battalion" level) – 2
https://t.me/s/zvizdecmanhustu
Figures from the Ukrainians 3 months previously (10/29/2023):
- personnel – 441.7 thousand military personnel
- tanks – 2324 units
- armored combat vehicles, including armored vehicles – 5661 units
- artillery systems, caliber from 100 mm - 3148 units
- multiple launch rocket systems – 982 units
- launchers of the operational-tactical missile system – at least 46 units
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Have noticed since around the first of the month that in the daily briefings of the Russian Ministry of Defense there has been no mention of the Zaporozhye direction. Apparently it has been divided between the the Kherson direction and the South Donetsk direction. The division apparently is the 58th Army joining the Kherson direction while the 35th and 5th Armies move to the South Donetsk direction. The dividing line appears to be just East of the Robotyne pocket.
Ukrainian military blogger: https://t.me/s/zvizdecmanhustu
"The command of the so-called "United Grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the South-Western Theater of Operations" (the official name of the Russian strategic group of troops operating on the territory of Ukraine) has made changes in the command structure.
The group of troops (GV) "Zaporizhia" has obviously been eliminated.
The 58th combined arms army of the enemy, operating in the Zaporozhye direction, was transferred to the Dnepr guard. Accordingly, the 35th OVA and everything east of it became part of the Vostok Military District, including the 5th and 36th OVA.
Thus, in addition to the Dnieper—Dnieper direction, Tokmatsko - Melitopolsky also entered the operational zone of the GV Dnepr, and most of the so-called "land corridor" between Crimea and Donbass, that is, the rest of the occupied Azov region, again found itself in the area of responsibility of the GV Vostok."
Ukrainian military blogger: https://t.me/s/zvizdecmanhustu
"The command of the so-called "United Grouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the South-Western Theater of Operations" (the official name of the Russian strategic group of troops operating on the territory of Ukraine) has made changes in the command structure.
The group of troops (GV) "Zaporizhia" has obviously been eliminated.
The 58th combined arms army of the enemy, operating in the Zaporozhye direction, was transferred to the Dnepr guard. Accordingly, the 35th OVA and everything east of it became part of the Vostok Military District, including the 5th and 36th OVA.
Thus, in addition to the Dnieper—Dnieper direction, Tokmatsko - Melitopolsky also entered the operational zone of the GV Dnepr, and most of the so-called "land corridor" between Crimea and Donbass, that is, the rest of the occupied Azov region, again found itself in the area of responsibility of the GV Vostok."
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The Russian Military have made other changes to their command structure within the Special Military Operations:
- the Krasny Liman direction has disappeared this week and divided between the Kupyansk direction and the Donetsk direction.
- the Donetsk direction has been divided into the Avdiivka direction and the Donetsk direction.
- still attempting to determine division lines
- the Krasny Liman direction has disappeared this week and divided between the Kupyansk direction and the Donetsk direction.
- the Donetsk direction has been divided into the Avdiivka direction and the Donetsk direction.
- still attempting to determine division lines
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The units listed in this thread seem to cover just manevre troops, maybe with some command units.
At least I haven't noticed any of the following kind of units mentioned:
Army air defense units
Artillery units.
Support/logistic units.
Aviation units.
VKO's air defense units.
Missile units.
So, even not counting the units operating just outside the edges of Ukraine, and counting just the troops actually within Crimea and other territories inside pre 2022 borders,
there should be more troops present than the mentioned 470 thousand.
Is that correct?
And if so, is there any estimate as to how many of those military personnel is actually present inside Ukraine?
At least I haven't noticed any of the following kind of units mentioned:
Army air defense units
Artillery units.
Support/logistic units.
Aviation units.
VKO's air defense units.
Missile units.
So, even not counting the units operating just outside the edges of Ukraine, and counting just the troops actually within Crimea and other territories inside pre 2022 borders,
there should be more troops present than the mentioned 470 thousand.
Is that correct?
And if so, is there any estimate as to how many of those military personnel is actually present inside Ukraine?
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1. Putin had given a figure of 617,000 Russian forces in the SMO around the time of the 2nd anniversary of it's start.
2. The Ukrainians had given a figure of 470,000 Russian forces inside Ukrainian around the same time.
3. Unknown is what exactly encompasses the SMO for both the Russians and the Ukrainians.
4. Back in my manpower totals for the original 6 directions, I had included manpower from those support units, you ask about, that I was aware of plus estimates of other units needed in the SMO. Suspect Ukrainian manpower estimates would reflect the same.
5. As for breakdown of those inside or outside, suspect the variance between would be 67 to 75% or pretty much the difference between points #1 and 2 above.
2. The Ukrainians had given a figure of 470,000 Russian forces inside Ukrainian around the same time.
3. Unknown is what exactly encompasses the SMO for both the Russians and the Ukrainians.
4. Back in my manpower totals for the original 6 directions, I had included manpower from those support units, you ask about, that I was aware of plus estimates of other units needed in the SMO. Suspect Ukrainian manpower estimates would reflect the same.
5. As for breakdown of those inside or outside, suspect the variance between would be 67 to 75% or pretty much the difference between points #1 and 2 above.
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The number engaged in combat at the actual front appears to me to be less than 200,000. The 470,000 claimed by the Kiev regime
would involve the logistics in the rear but inside claimed Ukr borders. Maybe they count Russian forces in Crimea as being in Ukria.
would involve the logistics in the rear but inside claimed Ukr borders. Maybe they count Russian forces in Crimea as being in Ukria.
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Updated Ukrainian view of the Russian forces aligned North of the SVO:
So, what the enemy ALREADY has in the composition of the GV "North" (and this, I remind you again, three Russian regions - Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod) at the moment:
personnel– 50.1 thousand military personnel
up to 395 units of tanks
928 units of armored combat vehicles (BMVS), of all types and types, including armored tractors of the MT-LB type and armored vehicles
Up to 992 units of artillery systems (AS) of barrel artillery, starting with a caliber of 100 mm and including 120 mm mortars.
123 multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS)
A tactical group (TGr) of missile forces and artillery (RViA) has also been deployed in the interests of the GV North, which has from 4 to 6 units of launchers (PU\SPU) of the 9K720 Iskander type tactical missile system (OTRK)
They are distributed, at the moment, as follows...
GV "Bryansk" (KP\PU deployed in the area of Starodub)
motorized rifle regiments (MSP) - 1
battalions – 11, of which – motorized rifle battalions (MSB) – 4, rifle battalions (SB) – 7
combined tactical detachments, battalion - company level - 1
The total number is somewhere between 8.3-8.5 thousand
2 "Kursk" guards (KP\PU deployed in the area of Rylsk)
motorized rifle regiments (MSP) – 3, of which at least 2 are incomplete (one regular battalion is missing – MSB)
battalions - 9, of which MSB - 2, the rest are infantry and there is another 1 - airborne assault battalion (DSHB)
consolidated tactical detachments of the battalion-company - 2 level
The total number of personnel – up to 10.7-10.8 thousand
GV "Belgorod" (KP\PU deployed in the area near Belgorod)
separate motorized rifle brigades (OMSBR) - 1
motorized rifle and tank regiments (SMEs, TP) – 7, one SME – without SMEs, battalions – 14, of which motorized infantry – 5, the rest (9) – infantry
Consolidated tactical detachments of the battalion-company level, including those from the "DK" - 5
The total number is approximately up to 31.1 - 31.2 thousand Russian overhead lines.
https://t.me/s/zvizdecmanhustu
So, what the enemy ALREADY has in the composition of the GV "North" (and this, I remind you again, three Russian regions - Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod) at the moment:
personnel– 50.1 thousand military personnel
up to 395 units of tanks
928 units of armored combat vehicles (BMVS), of all types and types, including armored tractors of the MT-LB type and armored vehicles
Up to 992 units of artillery systems (AS) of barrel artillery, starting with a caliber of 100 mm and including 120 mm mortars.
123 multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS)
A tactical group (TGr) of missile forces and artillery (RViA) has also been deployed in the interests of the GV North, which has from 4 to 6 units of launchers (PU\SPU) of the 9K720 Iskander type tactical missile system (OTRK)
They are distributed, at the moment, as follows...
GV "Bryansk" (KP\PU deployed in the area of Starodub)
motorized rifle regiments (MSP) - 1
battalions – 11, of which – motorized rifle battalions (MSB) – 4, rifle battalions (SB) – 7
combined tactical detachments, battalion - company level - 1
The total number is somewhere between 8.3-8.5 thousand
2 "Kursk" guards (KP\PU deployed in the area of Rylsk)
motorized rifle regiments (MSP) – 3, of which at least 2 are incomplete (one regular battalion is missing – MSB)
battalions - 9, of which MSB - 2, the rest are infantry and there is another 1 - airborne assault battalion (DSHB)
consolidated tactical detachments of the battalion-company - 2 level
The total number of personnel – up to 10.7-10.8 thousand
GV "Belgorod" (KP\PU deployed in the area near Belgorod)
separate motorized rifle brigades (OMSBR) - 1
motorized rifle and tank regiments (SMEs, TP) – 7, one SME – without SMEs, battalions – 14, of which motorized infantry – 5, the rest (9) – infantry
Consolidated tactical detachments of the battalion-company level, including those from the "DK" - 5
The total number is approximately up to 31.1 - 31.2 thousand Russian overhead lines.
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Some of you might have noticed over the past couple weeks that the Russian Ministry of Defense have renamed (again) the front lines:
Western Group - mostly troops of the Moscow and Leningrad Military Districts
Southern Group - mostly from the Southern Military District; 8th Army, 2nd and 3rd Corps
Central Group - mostly from the Central Military District plus the 1st Corps from the Southern Military District
Eastern Group - mostly troops from the Eastern Military District
Dnieper Group - mostly from the Southern Military District; 18th,49th and 58th Army plus 22nd and 40th Corps
In addition operations along the Ukrainian border with the Kharkov, Sumy and Chernihiv Regions are called the Northern Group. Apparently they are under the command of the Leningrad Military District.
Western Group - mostly troops of the Moscow and Leningrad Military Districts
Southern Group - mostly from the Southern Military District; 8th Army, 2nd and 3rd Corps
Central Group - mostly from the Central Military District plus the 1st Corps from the Southern Military District
Eastern Group - mostly troops from the Eastern Military District
Dnieper Group - mostly from the Southern Military District; 18th,49th and 58th Army plus 22nd and 40th Corps
In addition operations along the Ukrainian border with the Kharkov, Sumy and Chernihiv Regions are called the Northern Group. Apparently they are under the command of the Leningrad Military District.
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Rumors that the military operations along the Ukrainian border include troops from the 11th Army Corps (Kaliningrad) and the new 44th Army Corps (Karelia) with 2 Motor Rifle regiments (30th and 41st) of the new 72nd Motor Rifle Division along with the newly formed 128th Motor Rifle brigade.
In addition down in the Central Group, there are apparently at least 2 Motor Rifle regiments of the newly reformed 27th Guards Motor Rifle division active (old 21st Guards Motor Rifle brigade being increased to a division).
In addition down in the Central Group, there are apparently at least 2 Motor Rifle regiments of the newly reformed 27th Guards Motor Rifle division active (old 21st Guards Motor Rifle brigade being increased to a division).
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Dnieper Group Update:
Command and support from the Southern Military District
- 18th Combined Arms Army (1 division)
- 49th Combined Arms Army (3 brigades)
- 58th Combined Arms Army (2 divisions and 2 brigades)
- 22nd Army Corps (1 brigade)
- 40th Army Corps (1 brigade)
- 3 Airborne divisions
- 2 Naval Infantry brigades
- approximately 21 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 8 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Eastern Group Update:
Command and support from the Eastern Military District
- 5th Combined Arms Army (1 division and 2 brigades)
- 29th Combined Arms Army (1 brigade)
- 35th Combined Arms Army (3 brigades)
- 36th Combined Arms Army (2 brigades)
- 2 Naval Infantry brigades
- approximately 8 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 4 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Command and support from the Southern Military District
- 18th Combined Arms Army (1 division)
- 49th Combined Arms Army (3 brigades)
- 58th Combined Arms Army (2 divisions and 2 brigades)
- 22nd Army Corps (1 brigade)
- 40th Army Corps (1 brigade)
- 3 Airborne divisions
- 2 Naval Infantry brigades
- approximately 21 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 8 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Eastern Group Update:
Command and support from the Eastern Military District
- 5th Combined Arms Army (1 division and 2 brigades)
- 29th Combined Arms Army (1 brigade)
- 35th Combined Arms Army (3 brigades)
- 36th Combined Arms Army (2 brigades)
- 2 Naval Infantry brigades
- approximately 8 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 4 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
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Southern Group Update:
Command and support from the Southern Military District
- 8th Combined Arms Army (2 divisions)
- 2nd Army Corps (6 brigades)
- 3rd Army Corps (1 division and 1 brigade)
- 14th Army Corps (2 brigades)
- 68th Army Corps (1 division and 1 brigade)
- 2 Airborne divisions and 1 brigade
- 1 Naval Infantry regiment
- approximately 17 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 8-12 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Central Group Update:
Command and support from the Central Military District
- 2nd Combined Arms Army (1 division and 2 brigades)
- 41st Combined Arms Army (3 brigades)
- 1st Army Corps (6 brigades)
- 2 separate divisions
- approximately 19 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 2 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Command and support from the Southern Military District
- 8th Combined Arms Army (2 divisions)
- 2nd Army Corps (6 brigades)
- 3rd Army Corps (1 division and 1 brigade)
- 14th Army Corps (2 brigades)
- 68th Army Corps (1 division and 1 brigade)
- 2 Airborne divisions and 1 brigade
- 1 Naval Infantry regiment
- approximately 17 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 8-12 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Central Group Update:
Command and support from the Central Military District
- 2nd Combined Arms Army (1 division and 2 brigades)
- 41st Combined Arms Army (3 brigades)
- 1st Army Corps (6 brigades)
- 2 separate divisions
- approximately 19 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 2 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
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Western Group Update:
Command and support from the Moscow Military District
- 1st Tank Army (3 divisions and 1 brigade)
- 20th Combined Arms Army (2 divisions)
- 25th Combined Arms Army (1 division and 3 brigades)
- approximately 11 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 8 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Northern Group Update:
Command and support from the Leningrad Military District
- 6th Combined Arms Army (2 brigades converting to divisions)
- 11th Army Corps (1 division and 1 regiment)
- 44th Army Corps (1 division and 1 brigade)
- 1 Airborne brigade
- 1 Naval Infantry brigade
- approximately 7 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 2 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Command and support from the Moscow Military District
- 1st Tank Army (3 divisions and 1 brigade)
- 20th Combined Arms Army (2 divisions)
- 25th Combined Arms Army (1 division and 3 brigades)
- approximately 11 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 8 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
Northern Group Update:
Command and support from the Leningrad Military District
- 6th Combined Arms Army (2 brigades converting to divisions)
- 11th Army Corps (1 division and 1 regiment)
- 44th Army Corps (1 division and 1 brigade)
- 1 Airborne brigade
- 1 Naval Infantry brigade
- approximately 7 Reserve Territorial regiments plus numerous battalions
- 2 or more Volunteer brigades and battalions
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The Volunteer and BARS units have all been incorporated into the Russian Military and efforts made to organize the various battalions into brigade type forces known as Reconnaissance and Assault Brigades. Below is the latest organization structure as I have been able to to determine:
Volunteer Corps
1st “Wolves” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
3rd “Convoy” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
4th “Siberia” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
5th “Terek” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
7th “St George” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
10th “Don” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
11th “Dnepr” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
49th Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
60th “Veterans” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
81st “Bears” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
137th “Ural” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
139th Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
169th “Northern” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
333rd Artillery Brigade
204th “Akhmat” Special Purpose Regiment
Russian National Guard
15th “Wagner” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
16th “Wagner” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
17th “Wagner” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
Akhmat Brigade (basically National Guard battalions rotating in from the 46th Special Operating Purpose brigade stationed in Chechnya)
Volunteer Corps
1st “Wolves” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
3rd “Convoy” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
4th “Siberia” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
5th “Terek” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
7th “St George” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
10th “Don” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
11th “Dnepr” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
49th Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
60th “Veterans” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
81st “Bears” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
137th “Ural” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
139th Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
169th “Northern” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
333rd Artillery Brigade
204th “Akhmat” Special Purpose Regiment
Russian National Guard
15th “Wagner” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
16th “Wagner” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
17th “Wagner” Reconnaissance and Assault Brigade
Akhmat Brigade (basically National Guard battalions rotating in from the 46th Special Operating Purpose brigade stationed in Chechnya)
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I'm extremely happy for both them and the Russian Land Forces.franco wrote:The Volunteer and BARS units have all been incorporated into the Russian Military and efforts made to organize the various battalions into brigade type forces known as Reconnaissance and Assault Brigades. Below is the latest organization structure as I have been able to to determine:
Volunteer Corps
Russian National Guard
And even more happy that they have FINALLY conceived a type of unit that could perform autonomously those types of Diversions/Reconnaissance and Assault to fortified positions missions that the normal motostrelci regiment/brigades proved unable instead.
Only a question , such denomination correspond or almost tend toward a standardized and stable armed formation or it's just a patch applied to a series of fastly assembled makeshift units with only some common feature between them but different one another's for size, dotation or even functions?
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marcellogo wrote:
I'm extremely happy for both them and the Russian Land Forces.
And even more happy that they have FINALLY conceived a type of unit that could perform autonomously those types of Diversions/Reconnaissance and Assault to fortified positions missions that the normal motostrelci regiment/brigades proved unable instead.
Only a question , such denomination correspond or almost tend toward a standardized and stable armed formation or it's just a patch applied to a series of fastly assembled makeshift units with only some common feature between them but different one another's for size, dotation or even functions?
The latter I'm afraid at least to start but hopefully a standard at some time in the future.