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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:55 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:The Chernigov strike is interesting. The organizers of the event didn't announce the venue until the last minute, and told participants to avoid uniforms etc, not to give it away.
    So, chances are an insider tipped the Russians off.

    It is because the bandera-maidan regime is so HATED by so many people inside Ukraine.  It should not come as a surprise.

    Nah

    Russian intel agencies just started doing their job for a change, that's all



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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:01 am

    AMCXXL wrote:To the last ukranian, now is official

    https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1693013921257365681?s=20

    The Ukrainian Rada has issued a draft resolution on the prohibition of the treaty on the end of the war with territorial concessions.
    ...

    Excellent  thumbsup

    This should help keep Russians from doing something stupid like signing some piece of paper that makes Russian surrender official and just donates victory to the enemy like so many times before

    And we all know they just can't wait for opportunity to do it to themselves again, they LOVE signing that shit (just listen to Arkhangelsk here)


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    Post  mnztr Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:57 am

    So I don't think Putin visited just to say "HI". Is a counter- counter offensive in the works? I think Medvedevs latest statement saying the war could last for decades maybe a clue. Its either he thinks it will last for decades or he is concealing he massive escalation that is about to happen. I wonder of the BRICS summit will be the distraction or will they wait until after?
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    Post  Backman Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:13 am

    JohninMK wrote:

    More than 60 people died.
    The NATO air ambulance has been working around the clock, carrying heavy ones to the countries of the alliance.

    Destroyed several key specialists - NATO cryptographers from the Baltics - 11 senior NATO officers are missing"


    This is getting better and better. The issue is US/Nato usually doesn't release obituaries. They cover everything up. So verification will be difficult.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:19 am

    Kiko wrote:The Russian Armed Forces took control of 33 settlements in the Kharkiv region, by Vera Basilaya for VZGLYAD. 08.19.2023.

    The head of the VGA Ganchev: the Russian Armed Forces took control of five more villages in the Kharkiv region in a week.

    The territory of the Kharkiv region, controlled by Russian forces, has grown to 33 settlements, the Russian Armed Forces took five more villages, said Vitaly Ganchev, head of the military-civilian administration (CAA) of the Kharkiv region.

    On the air of Soloviev. Live” he said that Russian troops are approaching the suburbs of Kupyansk, there are clashes in the village of Petropavlovka, the front line is moving towards Kharkov. According to him, in all the liberated villages, and there are now 33 of them in the region, there is a gray zone, people live there in difficult conditions, TASS reports.

    Ganchev also added that the Russian Armed Forces are waiting for residents of villages that have not yet been liberated, who the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to shell against the backdrop of their failures at the front. At the same time, the fire is being fired at the villages behind the line of clashes, which have not been fired upon before.

    Earlier, Russian troops repelled four attacks in the Kupyansk direction.

    https://vz.ru/news/2023/8/19/1226446.html

    So let me me see if I understand this correctly.  All things considered, Nazi Banderastan is smaller than when it started this offensive.  What makes this even more humorous is that there is a NATO "expert" nicknamed Jihadi something (he's Dutch or German) starts with a J on twitter who attempts to excuse away the clusterf*** that is this "offensive" by smearing the reputation of the Americans, British, Poles, and  Canucks who landed at Normandy.  On D Day plus 60, my great grandpa and his buddies were getting close to Paris.  If Normandy were like this offensive, the AEF would still be on the beaches and being shot up in their landing ships and the Germans would control parts of Great Britain


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    Post  Arrow Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:22 am

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:25 am

    Now its helicopters?

    Jesus, their lying just doesnt stop at all.

    They just cant handle the fact that Russia outproduces them.

    Russia, who has been making the alloys for years, and even exporting it to China and third countries, now is importing it?

    I mean, the propaganda has worked on members of this forums so I guess it is useful.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:29 am

    Helicopters are probably propaganda, but drones are definitely provided by China. Why can't they provide everything? It is in China's interest that Russia wins over NATO in Ukraine.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:32 am

    Arrow wrote:Helicopters are probably propaganda, but drones are definitely provided by China. Why can't they provide everything? It is in China's interest that Russia wins over NATO in Ukraine.

    Because, there is zero reason for Russia to import what is costlier to import than it is to produce it locally. Basic economics actually. Russian production has been around since earlier Soviet times and kept going even through tough times. They are more pioneers in titanium and aluminum metallurgy used for space and military.  Unless it's given free (which it isnt), it makes zero sense. Actually, it would indicate Russians are retarded.  Instead, importing things they don't mass produce like certain semiconductors is more important.  Even the sighting system is in question too since they been manufacturing thermals and IR systems for longer too.

    The only one that even remotely makes sense is drones. And those are the aliexpress variants...

    There is a possibility, with the 6 token helicopters they mention, could be donations as maybe China was decommissioning and free helicopter is a free helicopter.

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    Post  mr_hd Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:11 am

    so another day and three russian regions are under drone attacks. Airports were again disrupted briefly... 
    Ukraine is more and more able to bring war back deep into Russia and that is perfectly ok. 
    It is not terrorism how idiotic russian state media call it - it is simply fair and just reciprocity.

    And we are few months away from readiness of heavier strike drones that Ukraine is developing, 3 different types are known so far that are coming. It will be interesting to see how Russian air defense will work against mix of decoys, cheap light and heavy strike drones all at one. 

    As per battlefield, last week one more village was liberated but also 1km deeper inside of russian occupied territory by the Ukrainian forces. Russian forces held till last moment and then had to retreat fast... there is a clip of it online, they had many casualties and was not pretty. 
    Ukraine proudly presented mines laying equipment it destroyed. 

    Ah and two KA-52 were shot down too. 

    It seems Ukraine adjusted to Russian defense tactic and is dealing with it appropriately. 

    Ps. since this site is insanely one sided someone needs to put a bit news from other side and bring perspective. War in any case is lost for Russia.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:39 am

    Wouldn't consider the war lost for the Russians it's war you are going to take losses, the problem on this site is morons act like the Russians aren't taking a decent number of losses but still Russia isn't losing but they aren't winning super hard either it's still their war to win or loose for sure, we will see which they choose
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:08 pm


    Io didn't see it here, a footage from Chernigov drone kaboom show, apparently form surveillance camera.

    https://t.me/ChDambiev/25127



    Arrow wrote:Helicopters are probably propaganda, but drones are definitely provided by China.

    they might mean "quadcopters" but i guess some translation from Russian or Chinese was lost...who knows
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:17 pm

    Any Russian losses are too many because this is a war that never needed to happen... this is a Biden and Obama creation and going back even further there are lots of criminals who created this situation that will never be punished, but equally this is a good war that is purging nazis from Russians neighbourhood and it finally got the west to reveal its true hatred for any competition and the evil lengths it is prepared to go to.

    It is funny that after channelling literally hundreds of billions of dollars in money and weapons and ammo to the Ukraine that countries are not allowed to sell weapons to Russia... amazing really...

    The west will expect a seat at the table for negotiations but they have proven to be no impartial so why would Russia even consider talking to them... their track record is lying.

    Medvedev is talking about decades of war but the west wont continue to support Kiev that long... they are talking about peace options right now... this conflict wont last longer than Biden will last as president of the US of A... which is an ironic term because Biden is the leader of HATO and the G7 and the EU, so in this case the US of A means united states of arseholes... which encompasses the entire western world, including New Zealand and Australia and Canada etc etc.

    But Kiev is not going to last that long either... their time is very much running down... weapons and ammo only make sense if there are people prepared to use them.

    This war is necessary and is destroying ties between Russia and the west much better than anything Putin could ever have done to save Russia from the west... no matter when the conflict ends the west seems to act like things can go back to the way they were but I seriously don't think Russia and Russians are ready to forgive so easy... and why would they?

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    Post  Hole Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:19 pm

    The AEF would still be on the beaches and being shot up in their landing ships and the Germans would control parts of Great Britain
    A possible scenario without the Russians starting their next offensive a few weeks earlier than planned.

    The Ukrainian Rada
    There will be no Rada after that conflict ended.

    I think Medvedevs latest statement saying the war could last for decades maybe a clue. 
    Medvedev stated that the Nazi regime in Kiev has to be finished, no matter if it takes years or even decades.
    Message to the west that Russia is determined to crush the regime, even if the west sends F-22´s or Trident missiles.


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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:30 pm

    That propaganda about Chinese arms shipments is utterly retarded. The Kiev regime uses the same Chinese drones (FPV quadcopters).
    For some reason there is no talk of Chinese arms shipments to the Kiev regime.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:44 pm

    mr_hd wrote:War in any case is lost for Russia.

    What an icking fudiot. Razz

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:48 pm

    kvs wrote:That propaganda about Chinese arms shipments is utterly retarded.   The Kiev regime uses the same Chinese drones (FPV quadcopters).  
    For some reason there is no talk of Chinese arms shipments to the Kiev regime.


    It is and is not same time.

    China supplies Russkie with tons of stuff. It is clear from the beginning, with multiple proven cases. Ammunition with the Chinese markings, body armor plates, helmets, medical supplies, drones and drones subsystems. One must be blind or obsessed to deny the things that can be simple spotted with eyes only using social media.
    Same does Iran, same does Korea, and Myanmar joined the party lately.

    On the other hand, the scale of the supply is obviously being oversized, the same way the lend&lease myths has been produced for decades. The cause is to get ready for defeat, and to be able to comment it about how the giant Chinese economy won the war, with only a fractional help from the dumb Russkie.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:55 pm

    Now comes another wunderwaffe after the F-16, it will be the Grippen Smile Although the Grippen with the Meteor missile with a range of 200km may be more dangerous than the F16MLU.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:36 pm

    We don't hear of the Tornado-S very often.

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    There are heavy losses among Ukrainian servicemen.

    #source

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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:38 pm

    Russia makes its own body armour plates. There are Ukr videos comparing the stopping power of Ukr plates and the Russian ones. The
    Ukr ones are basically fake and useless.

    All the yapping about China "arming" the Russians is a lie regardless of what trivial details got shipped at some stage. Making it sound
    as if China supplies Russia with ammunition is participating in NATzO propaganda narrative dissemination. "Supplying drones" which are
    FPV units is an example of this BS spin.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:43 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:56 pm

    An equivalent for the mercs of Azov patrolling behind the lines.

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    Ukraine has taken measures against foreign mercenaries.
    “We began to detain their salaries so that they would not run away,” the member Armed Forces of Ukraine commented.


    Then there are the Poles

    Over the past year and a half, almost 10,000 Poles have died in Ukraine. Considering that their army has about 160 thousand soldiers, of which 60 thousand are ground forces, the losses are very large.

    The dead are always referred to as volunteers and mercenaries, but most of them are Polish soldiers and reservists sent under the legend of "volunteers."

    - Mysl Polska
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    Meanwhile that strange explosion in Kiev, that looked like propane tanks or petrol station going up seems to have been solved.

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    Yesterday, Ukrainian "experts" cut the warhead of a rocket with a grinder, which led to a powerful explosion in the center of Kyiv

    A powerful explosion occurred in the forensic center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Kyiv, the cause of which was the detonation of ammunition. The experts cut the warhead of the R-27 rocket with a grinder and hit it with a hammer, causing it to detonate.

    The explosion killed 4 people, damaged the facade of the science center, a residential building, a hostel, as well as 2 service cars.




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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:58 pm

    kvs wrote:Russia makes its own body armour plates.   There are Ukr videos comparing the stopping power of Ukr plates and the Russian ones.   The
    Ukr ones are basically fake and useless.  

    All the yapping about China "arming" the Russians is a lie regardless of what trivial details got shipped at some stage.   Making it sound
    as if China supplies Russia with ammunition is participating in NATzO propaganda narrative dissemination.   "Supplying drones" which are
    FPV units is an example of this BS spin.

    Russia does make its own body plates, but not as much as it was needed. It is well documented by Russian sources that part of the body armour for mobilized was bought in China. 
    Mental gymnastics of some people here,  whotry to deny that Russia is buying military supplies from allied countries is mind boggling. They are not much better than Guardian or some other rag in that sense. 
    Russia has a simple goal, that is to win the war. And i hope that it will continue to buy anything that needs to make that goal closer. Anything else will just result in more losses for their own army.

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