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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40

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GunshipDemocracy Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:01 pm

@lancelot

it is obsolete, tbh idk why they transfer them to war zone? Then only thing which would make sense to me is to have a direct support SPG. A 100mm gun can deal nicely with any MRAP/IFV/APC or house/blindage

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ALAMO Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:04 pm

And how did you figure out that they are transferring them into the war zone? dunno

They are transferring them SOMEWHERE.
Cleaning/optimizing the warehouses is the same good hint.
Or they are going for melting.
Or disassembling, as some parts can be reused for 62s.

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Scorpius Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:06 pm

Arrow wrote:Why is Russia downloading the T-55 when the production of the T-90M is really booming? Plus repairs to the T-72B.

1. How do we know where these tanks are being taken?
2. Even IF these tanks are being taken to participate in battles - why should it be bad?
Each of these tanks can be used as a pillbox, strengthening roadblocks and strong points in the rear of deployed troops. They can also be used as infantry support to maintain the pace of military operations and spending 100-mm shells intended for them, while the Russian industry focuses on replenishing the supply of shells for more current tank models. I do not see the danger of any large-scale tank battles in the near future, so that we can be afraid that the T-55s will be irrelevant against modern Western MBT. A link of 3 T-55s and a pair of Terminator BMPT attached to them as support still pose the highest degree of threat to any motorized formations of Ukraine on the battlefield, but at the same time they will allow creating a shock fist of T-72/T-80/T-90 in more important sectors of the front, acting in low-intensity combat zones.
3. This is a moronic Western prejudice against T-55 tanks. If you are on the receiving side, you will definitely NOT like fighting with a tank, even if it is a T-34-85, what can we say about the T-55 and T-62 that have undergone modernization. If Russia connects these two decommissioned models to the battle, then it can put not 3,000 tanks in the theater of operations, but 6,000 or 7,000. A tank developed in 1948 is still a tank, damn it, and to break through its armor, you still need something more powerful than the standard infantry infantry weapons.

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Arrow Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:07 pm

https://t.me/otryadkovpaka/19244

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Scorpius Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:14 pm

Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40 - Page 26 Fr1q6110

Medvedev 's speech: ... think about it, Sergey, and then they tell me - you live in an outcast country, subjected to international isolation with an economy torn to shreds.

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Scorpius Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:16 pm

Arrow wrote:https://t.me/otryadkovpaka/19244

So, we have a confirmed defeat of the target by a T-90M tank at a distance of 5060 meters.

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ALAMO Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:20 pm

It's a missile.
Nothing unusual.

Post lancelot Today at 5:44 pm
The T-55 is obsolete as a tank

Sure it is.
In a tank role.
Yet all the footage from the theatre presents a huge supply of ammo for D-10T derivatives, so lack of ammo or disturbing the logistic chain is the last concern. Used for AT guns, but those are just same.
Seems that both sides are vastly using those. From Russkie perspective, republican units are the most obvious end users.

The situation changes if we consider it as a mobile strongpoint. Put some sandbags around, and you have something resistant to all platoon-level ATGM/support weapons the Ukrs have. Neither NLAW nor Javelin will pierce through a sandbag and a tank standing behind, both lack the penetration.
The same applies to most of the weapons delivered to Ukrowehrmacht. Hardly any of those pierce more than 500 mm. And that is an edge of T-55AM with BDD applied.

Can't remember who asked about missile usage but the answer is yes.
Both T-55 and BMP-3 are using the same GLATGM, and it is the same as used for T-62. Requires the same laser beam riding emitter.

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Arrow Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:20 pm

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1638597963181162533?t=0V9mfcyqdBQy3hPiwZgOmg&s=19

Another attack attempt and another failure in a moment.

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ALAMO Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:33 pm

Gore warning.

https://t.me/intelslava/46102

Piles of Ukro spam.
I can't even call the number of such materials this week, and we have only Wednesday...

I will repeat that again and again, for all the folks who are in the western shitstream.

The called number of "200k KIA" is not valid. There are more than 300k for sure, the question is if they have already hit the 350.

All that blood is on the hands of ... you know whose. attack

Edit :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWu1cwC8S_Y&ab_channel=ZvezdaLive9.0

(it is live so no idea if it lasts on Zvezda stream?)

A very good interview with Kiril Fiodorov. Some of you may know him as an author of YT channel "Istoria oruzha" - Histor of weapon.
Recognizable armored things enthusiast, Latvian citizen.
Jailed in March 2022 for figuring out thesis, forced to reconcile and spy for Latvia, finally freed and in Russia. While still a Latvian citizen.

He speaks quite important things about the fate of Russian diaspora in such called 'eurodemocracies'.
Don't fool yourselves, the situation in 404 is a row way worse than that.

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nomadski Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:18 pm

Ark wrote " Tbh Ukrainian t64 is easy to kill with T62 or T55, I'd rather save the T90M and send to NATO border . " I think that Russia should put all effort to reach objective of liberating the oblasts . And that this could be and should be achieved with conventional forces , as long as NATO , only used conventional forces . But I think if war expanded beyond Ukraine in Europe or Asia , and since Russia will be fighting a much larger NATO + Japan + ? force , that it is pointless to stick to the use of conventional forces . At this time Russia should escalate to Nuclear war . That is why I keep saying that Russia should destroy Bridges and carry out nuke test now and not ponder about meeting NATO troops with conventional symmetric battles . So it is time to throw everything at the enemy , including T90 . Next comes Mr Kiloton !

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Backman Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:46 pm

Rybar on the front line of Ukraine propaganda again. So quick to announce Ukraine gains that he has to retract them later. But with Russian gains he waits at least 12 hours

https://twitter.com/AndreiIVolkov1/status/1638610561989505024?t=ViEJM9NxjThR2WnLXwl-SQ&s=19

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Mir Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:49 pm

Alamo wrote:Both T-55 and BMP-3 are using the same GLATGM, and it is the same as used for T-62. Requires the same laser beam riding emitter.

Also for the MT-12 Rapira anti-tank gun. They all use the same 9M117 missile but the casing differs quite a bit.

From left to right >> Bastion for the Rapira and the T-55. I think the slightly shorter one is for the T-55? In the center is the Sheksna for the T-62 followed by the Kastet for the BMP-3. Finally the missile itself.

Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40 - Page 26 Bastio10

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Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:51 pm

Ukros got smacked in zaporozhye, no penetration of line

But remember this is how Kherson went in initial probes at Davydov brod and other initial battles

Although Ukros never really won at Kherson, it was Russian army which pulled out

Now at Tokmak , it will depend on general staff willingness to hold

I imagine giving this area up is unacceptable , as Putin himself drove through these streets , but let's see how it goes

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ALAMO Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:02 pm

From left to right >> Bastion for the Rapira and the T-55. I think the slightly shorter one is for the T-55? In the center is the Sheksna for the T-62 followed by the Kastet for the BMP-3. Finally the missile itself.

There is one more called Arkan and Arkan-M, all fit different guns.
How easily they put a rifled gun missile to smoothbore one is another story of genie of Soviet engineering.
Unmatched.

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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:25 pm

@Militarylandnet
The road through Khromove settlement to #Bakhmut is still usable, but under Russian fire.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1638632736054456323

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Backman Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:29 pm

As Military Summery said , depleted uranium shells are small dirty nuclear bombs. And the UK just casually mentions that they are sending them. Which means they are already there.

They are probably going to start using them because Ukraine won't be able to return the territory. So shower it with nuclear waste.

Russia's response hasn't been adequate. Just some message from the foreign ministry isn't going to cut it. I look forward to a real response.

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kvs Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:44 pm

So we have an T-55 on rail cars and a swarm of drivel about how obsolete it is. Yet the Leopard-1s that will be supplied to the Kiev regime
are not surrounded by a swarm of inferiority flies.

https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-T-55-compare-with-the-Leopard-1

Tiresome to be subjected to the "NATO serious" and "Russia joke" retarded spew. Not necessarily aimed at people in this forum.

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Hole Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:47 pm

The situation changes if we consider it as a mobile strongpoint.

Take the current situation in Zaporoshye as an example. The enemy attacks with 50 M113´s.
Artillery and ATGM´s will destroy most of them, helicopters will have fun, too. But a few could
go through... and meet a handful of good old T-62 or even T-55 tanks. Twisted Evil

Sure, a BTR-82 or BMP-2/-3 could do the job, but they can´t be everywhere along a 1.000+km
frontline.

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Svatovo area

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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:57 pm

@Militarylandnet
Seems Russian army is using ... border crossing as ammo depot. March 5, 2023.
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What traitors put such things on the net?

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ALAMO Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:59 pm

BTR can be penetrated by 12.7, and BMP-2 by 14.5.

55s can be penetrated only by RPG, not all of them, and hardly by any of those if sandbags are applied.

A hint: Israelis and tank-made strongholds at crucial spots.

It took a serious ATGM supplied from Iran to take those down, on occasion.

A funny story : no NATO country has the ATGMs that would match the Iranian ones.

How interesting Laughing

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Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:07 pm

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Tap into the vast 100mm HE shell depot
Genius move in an artillery-dominated/trench war of attrition
Now add 1PN96MT thermal sight + maintain safe distance to the very front-line and you get a notable firepower increase
Oh yeah and add a prayer for the ammunition to work...
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Hole Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:23 pm

Oh yeah and add a prayer for the ammunition to work...

Ammo is Made in Russia. 99% will work.

no NATO country has the ATGMs that would match the Iranian ones.

Because Iran had the foresight to copy Kornet. Very Happy

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mnztr Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:34 pm

As Military Summery said , depleted uranium shells are small dirty nuclear bombs. And the UK just casually mentions that they are sending them. Which means they are already there. They are probably going to start using them because Ukraine won't be able to return the territory. So shower it with nuclear waste. Russia's response hasn't been adequate. Just some message from the foreign ministry isn't going to cut it. I look forward to a real response. wrote:

Russia should dump DU dust into the water off the coast of the UK for the water to carry it in. After all its harmless right?

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flamming_python Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:38 pm

Looks like Russia has succeeded in turning the entire Donbass & Kherson front into a duck-hunt by now. Nicely done. +90% of Ukrainian forces are simply detonated by artillery with no losses on the Russian side, with a minimum of their own artillery for our troops to contend with in turn, even the HIMARS seem to be falling into ever more scarce use.

Despite all the naysayers talking about how long its taking to liberate Bakhmut, dooming over Kherson being withdrawn from, exasperating over no grand offensives being launched, complaining about the pace of advances.. all of this noise was for nothing. Because the only thing that counts is attaining the largest possible firepower superiority and then keeping it, for as long as the enemy is dumb enough to keep attempting to fight conventionally and toe-to-toe at any rate.

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