Russian special military operation in Ukraine #38

Poddubny on situation in Artemovsk/Bakhmut.
Bolded text is interesting. 

https://t.me/epoddubny/14921

Important.  According to Paraskovievka and the situation on the Artemovsky front:

The situation is complicated, I saw it with my own eyes.  The initiative is on the side of the “musicians”, but it is premature to say that the enemy has accepted the coming defeat.  The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction is acting skillfully, the command and control of the units does not “float” even in a difficult situation.  Our guys overplay on experience and feet, on speed.  But here's a detail: the Slavyansk - Artemovsk highway in the area of ​​​​Krasnaya Gora is under the fire control of the "orchestra".  And the enemy is already building up a new road through the fields in order to provide transportation both to Artemovsk and to the outskirts.  The artillery of the Kyiv regime is constantly working both along the front line and along the nearby rear.  The fighters of PMC "Wagner" do not have plentiful amounts of ammunition.  And this, of course, is not very good.  The most tense situation right now is near Artemovsk, and we need to discard the complexities of interaction and personal ambitions for the overall result.  Grouping of the enemy 40-50 thousand.  It's a lot.  The units of the regime are fighting for every house, fighting stubbornly and with a twinkle.  It's like in the movie The Best in Hell.  Paraskoviyivka is not surrounded, our forces have so far only managed to take control of the supply and evacuation routes under fire control.  The enemy does not think to leave, fighting for every meter.  In general, pride takes for ours, they fight very good, they beat the enemy with skill.  We continue to watch.

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The first serious Soviet involvement was when the war was well going, for years. Few advisers and specialist training are irrelevant, Ukrs were getting that for the last 30 years. LIKE1 wrote:

Didn't the USSR provide them with artillery to hammer the French and Dien Bein Phu. The USSR was a great force to end the brutality of colonialism

Its about time they bought up TOS-01 to Bakhmut, and use it to obliterate block by block.

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It was the Vietnam War that always kept me suspicious of aviation.
And all those strategic bombers or tactical aviation can be destroyed on airfields by saboteurs far more easily than before.
And as for air defense, which has its flaws, it is much more dangerous compared to aviation than during the Vietnam War.
And that story about "stealth" and other bullshit also smoked a big Serbian sausage in the case of the F-117 aircraft. And it is about a conflict of low intensity with a small number of deployed American aircraft. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that aviation is one big myth.

I tend to agree. The Seppos though, would probably argue that air power was a success in Iraq war 1. Iraq did have some air defense. I guess Iraq didn't have Soviet specialists on the ground to make things work like they did in Vietnam. I mean, Vietnam had more aged systems than there was available in 1991.

It is also interesting to see what air power was like in the Iraq Iran war. I don't actually know.

Daesh flag in the SMO zone, western supported "islamist" terrorists helping their western supported Nazi buddies.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction is acting skillfully,

The artillery of the Kyiv regime is constantly working both along the front line and along the nearby rear.

I sometimes wonder how effective blowing out the electricity is on logistics. Nato has way longer supply lines and they seem to get the cannon fodder and ammunition there no problem still. It is such a huge country and frontline and there is probably a very good reason for it. But it is still annoying af. It should not be this easy. How do they get all this trash to the frontlines

Daesh flag in the SMO zone, western supported "islamist" terrorists helping their western supported Nazi buddies.

Hohol twitter has flip this around. They are saying that ISIS is helping Russia. And everyone believes it. Oh of course ISIS is helping Russia. Yeah.

Berkhovka now under assault

Small town in that area got liberated.

Is it true that wagner's experiencing an ammunition shortage?

Moldova must be either crapping it, or setting things up for NATO troops or at least Romanian troops on its soil. Snippets below

Fans banned from Europa Conference League match amid Moldovan fears of Russian coup.

Partizan Belgrade fans have been banned from travelling to watch their side play Sheriff Tiraspol as tensions escalate in Moldova amid fears Russia may be planning a coup.

Partizan and Sheriff are due to meet in the first leg of their Europa Conference League knockout play-off tie on Thursday in a match that will now be played behind closed doors

The President of Moldova, Maia Sandu, said on Monday that she feared Russia were preparing an attempt to overthrow her government.

Sandu further suggested that citizens of Russia, Belarus, Montenegro and Serbia may be used as part of the plot, with government official Andrian Keptonar suggesting on television that Serbians may have been attempting to enter Moldova under the guise of football fans.

Russia rejected angrily on Tuesday to the Moldovan president’s claims about an alleged plot by Moscow to overthrow her government. Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, dismissed Sandu’s claims as “absolutely unfounded and unsubstantiated.”

“They are built in the spirit of classical techniques that are often used by the United States, other Western countries and Ukraine,” Zakharova said. “First, accusations are made with reference to purportedly classified intelligence information that cannot be verified, and then they are used to justify their own illegal actions.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/moldova-russia-coup-partizan-belgrade-sheriff-tiraspol-b2282005.html

I sometimes wonder how effective blowing out the electricity is on logistics. Nato has way longer supply lines and they seem to get the cannon fodder and ammunition there no problem still. It is such a huge country and frontline and there is probably a very good reason for it. But it is still annoying af. It should not be this easy. How do they get all this trash to the frontlines wrote:

I can give Russia no more then a charitable D- on interdiction. Its been a failure, lets admit it. The failure of their interdiction efforts have cost thousands of Russian boys and allowed this war to keep stretching on. If they had even achieved a B+ I suspect the AFU would have collapsed by now.

This war keeps getting more surreal everyday.

That's if you assume they want this conflict tied to within Ukraine's borders. In supporting the husk that is the UAF NATO is draining its precious warstock and motivated mercenaries from across the globe in quite possibly the most unefficient use of such assets beyond setting them alight. As a result everyone with an ax to grind with the west is licking their chops in anticipation. Imagine the carnage on every NATO overextension, I mean bases all around the globe... wrote:

Thats a good point. But it would still be so much better if they destroyed the bulk of it before it got to the front.

They could​ simply get off their asses and destroy them on the frontline

Fact that Ukrainians even have artillery with Russia supposedly having air superiority over there is downright insulting

Do those gun teleport around if entire fúcking airforce can't take them out? They fly above them FFS...

Russian Navy is a bad joke, that has been scientifically proven but I hoped that at least VKS knows what it's doing considering Syria

Guess not

Oddly enough the failure of the VKS has cost both thousands of Russian and Ukrainian lives. Honestly if they are gonna fight like this close down Sukhoi and mig. Just build more strategic missile carriers. and variants that also act as arsenal planes with AWACS radars that can blow anything out of the sky.

Those decoy balloons that have been reported are almost certainly only there to get radars up and running that can then be localized by satellite or airborne SIGINT.

I guess if UA shoots them down, that's $50 worth of balloon, paper and foil vs $100,000+ of missile, also a good deal.

But I don't think that's their primary purpose, just an occasional bonus.

So that would be three uses I can think of... get enemy air defence to reveal itself plus possibly waste a missile or ammo firing at it, but friendly radar could track them and get an idea of wind direction and speed for artillery precision...

If everyone is already saying that over 75% of Ukrsohitstans died from artillery, what is the role of military aviation in today's way of warfare ?

And if everyone said the US is a force for good?

Russian airpower essentially exterminates Ukrainian airpower as it gets airborne and hits targets deep inside the Ukraine that their other artillery options cannot reach.

Russia has never been as air power centric as the west, the fact that they are being careful is normal... just the same as the navy and army are being careful too... it is a careful war.

Russia benefits from air power and navy support but it comes down to an army operation which makes sense.

And that story about "stealth" and other bullshit also smoked a big Serbian sausage in the case of the F-117 aircraft. And it is about a conflict of low intensity with a small number of deployed American aircraft. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that aviation is one big myth.

The west is very aircraft focussed, but airpower alone is unlikely to win a war... starting a war or killing people... yeah... great way to fight countries without getting your hand dirty... Libya for instance.

Kosovo showed that airpower alone was useless... you run out of targets and without ground forces it is a stalemate so you have to trick the enemies allies into thinking they can be part of the solution.

Firstly jungle warfare is VERY difficult. Secondly. NVA infantry are OUTSTANDING soldiers. Vietnamese people are smart, hardworking and have balls. Vietnam defeated first the USA then fought China to a draw in a land war after defeating the Khmer Rouge. (ok that last one was easy) but wow, first the USA and then China? Don't *uck with Vietnam.

America will say it was about communism but it was actually about colonialism... the French treated Vietnam like shit and then the Japs kicked them out and were not better and then the French came back. The Vietnamese finally kicked the French out and the Americans arrived and it took a while but they kicked them out along with their allies... Australia and New Zealand and Canada included... and then dealt to the Chinese...

I can give Russia no more then a charitable D- on interdiction. Its been a failure, lets admit it. The failure of their interdiction efforts have cost thousands of Russian boys and allowed this war to keep stretching on. If they had even achieved a B+ I suspect the AFU would have collapsed by now.

If Russia was as evil as the US why would I support them and wish them well?

Do those gun teleport around if entire fúcking airforce can't take them out? They fly above them FFS...

Funny the expectations of air power... how long did the US fight in Afghanistan... surely after 20 years of airpower total control all the enemy will be dead, all their vehicles and support networks destroyed...

The problem is that even though the orcs are nazis and evil what they are not is stupid.

It is rather easy to put a tarp over anything you are hauling on the back of a truck... in fact false truck trailer bodies can probably be fabricated to hide almost anything... which means if you want to stop them you have to destroy every truck and train heading east... which is a terrible waste of ammo.

Oddly enough the failure of the VKS has cost both thousands of Russian and Ukrainian lives. Honestly if they are gonna fight like this close down Sukhoi and mig. Just build more strategic missile carriers. and variants that also act as arsenal planes with AWACS radars that can blow anything out of the sky.

PD and the doomers... don't like your work... pathetic.

The VKS and Russian Navy have done their jobs and killed more nazis than the west ever has.

The west would rather help the nazis... and MiG and Sukhoi are divisions of OAK and are going to continue to make planes the west will fear for a very long time.

Oddly enough the failure of the VKS has cost both thousands of Russian and Ukrainian lives. Honestly if they are gonna fight like this close down Sukhoi and mig. Just build more strategic missile carriers. and variants that also act as arsenal planes with AWACS radars that can blow anything out of the sky.

STFU

So Russia doing a US over Vietnam impression over Ukraine is a better idea ?

The offensive of the "Wagners" is coming from several directions, they are pressing from the liberated settlements.

Nationalists literally bite into their positions. As Yevgeny Prigozhin reported, house after house is being stormed, square meter by square meter. At the same time, the Ukrainian command is deploying 300 to 500 new fighters.

This is why I thought Russia was going to do encirclements. Russia hasn't had the troop numbers to do them since the SMO. But I sure hope they do eventually. It is more economic on the battlefield to encircle and march off a 1000 men than it is to kill them.

Anything can be done if you have enough men. And Russia has enough.

Missile and drone attacks were held during the night

what failure of the VKS? wrote:

Other then strategic aviation they have not really made a massive difference. I do not see them being used well at the tactical level, or for interdiction, or for counter battery. Most of the Ukranian AF was taken out on the ground or by SAMs. Ukraine is being allowed to operate with far too much freedom

So Russia doing a US over Vietnam impression over Ukraine is a better idea ? wrote:

Vietnam has jungles, Ukraine wide open spaces. Its not a valid comparison .