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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:27 am

    That is what I call Wunderwaffe!

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:29 am

    thumbsup ALAMO my friend, do you think there is a Russian offensive coming soon?
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    Post  nomadski Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:33 am

    My Grandmother ( RIP) used to buy only few ingredients for a meal . But what a meal she made ! And she could turn out a few different dishes , from the same ingredients ! And you would never be the wiser for it . I think God ( if he or she or it ) existed , would work in the same way , a few particles or even one primordial particle and voila , the periodic table , you and me and Jellyinsky . Ukrainians being supplied with all forms of equipment , by competing American and European interest groups , face a logistical nightmare ( 105 Arty or Tank !!) . However Russia can affect an great deal of interchangeable equipment , standardised . It could also serve different dishes and tactics to taste .

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:26 am

    Another Strizh crashed.

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    In Konotop district.

    Pay attention that the red stars are either still on it, or repainted by purpose to pretend being Russian.

    edit : this time, OFAB-100 has been found on the site, along with flachettes.

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    The only those bloody bastards can do, is terror. So they try best they can.

    edit 2 : a very rare bird :

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/43594

    T-80BVM uses anti-tank missiles to hit two BMPs. The time of flight suggests quite a range.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:26 am

    2nd improvised Ukrainian cruise missile crashed now?

    Maybe Russia is using some EW means against them

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:36 am

    More forced conscription

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/43603

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:36 am

    Witness report that in both cases those just struck the trees en route.
    My guess is that they put the automatic altimeter so low, to get any chance to sneak.

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    Post  archangelski Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:42 am

    Pay attention that the red stars are either still on it, or repainted by purpose to pretend being Russian. wrote:

    Probably an old Soviet roundel covered by Ukrainian one, appearing by erosion...

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    Post  VARGR198 Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:56 am

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    Post  Arrow Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:58 am


    2nd improvised Ukrainian cruise missile crashed now? Maybe Russia is using some EW means against them wrote:

    Probably crashed into a tree. It was flying very low and was probably not detected by the air defense system. This shows that cruise missiles flying at extremely low altitudes are very dangerous even for the defense of Russia. Interesting that the OTH radars didn't pick up?

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    Post  Arrow Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:00 pm

    ISW

    Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decisions regarding Ukraine since his initial flawed invasion on February 24, 2022, indicate a likely disconnect between his maximalist objectives and his willingness to take the likely high-risk decisions necessary to achieve them. Putin has remained reluctant to order the difficult changes to the Russian military and society that are likely necessary to salvage his war. wrote:

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:11 pm

    So the 2nd crashed while still flying over UA?

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:37 pm

    Yes. Sumy region.
    The first one felt at night, no idea about this one.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:43 pm

    Arrow wrote:Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decisions regarding Ukraine since his initial flawed invasion on February 24, 2022, indicate a likely disconnect between his maximalist objectives and his willingness to take the likely high-risk decisions necessary to achieve them. Putin has remained reluctant to order the difficult changes to the Russian military and society that are likely necessary to salvage his war. wrote:

    Why re-post blatant Western propaganda here? What's the purpose?
    Post this bullshit into that other thread, so that people can elect to read it if they want without being bothered by it here. I do it all the time myself. And post a link to the source too, so it's clear who its coming from and people can mentally quarantine it beforehand instead of being blindsided like I was and then having my brain seared by the sophistry of it.

    What decisions are they referring to? What high-risk decisions are necessary that Putin is reluctant about? Mobilization? He did that. Increase defense industry production? He did that. Re-orient the economy towards trade with the rest of the world and alternate payment systems? He did that. Be honest with Russians about shortcomings, casualties and so on? He did that. Withdraw from areas of the Ukraine it's costly to maintain a presence in? Well guess what he did that too.
    And salvaging what war? Why does it need to be salvaged? At no point has Russia been losing. It's not his war either but NATO's; they waste no opportunity in practically admiring that, while at the same time continuing with such propaganda drivel.


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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:47 pm

    I wonder two things about ISW:

    Do they know what Putin's maximalist war aims are or have they bought into their own projection and propaganda to the point they don't?

    I spent tens of thousands of dollars at university for a Bachelors and Masters in history and so as much as possible I am all about primary sources and reading what the actors themselves had to say. In February 2022 Putin stated his war aims. Denazify and demilitarize Ukraine, make it neutral, protect Russia's sovereignty (by this he clearly meant Russia inclusive of Crimea) and to protect DPR and LPR. He also said he had no territorial designs on Ukraine and he was not seeking regime change.

    A year later and lets see what we have

    1. While the spirit of Nazism is still very much alive most of the most hardened Nazis in the country are dead or maimed.

    2. Ukraine went from a top 5 arms exporter in 2014 to begging for scrap metal NATO hasn't used in 30 years. Ukraine's defense industry is gone. Its war making and manufacturing infrastructure are heavily degraded through constant attacks on its energy grid and factories. Really the only thing Putin needs to do that he has not is to destroy bridges over the Dniepr. Its honestly the one thing I don't understand about this war. Also, its NATO trained army is mostly dead or incapacitated and they are drafting old farts older than me and school boys

    3. Make it neutral. By grinding down Ukraine and causing its people to lose their stomach for war he is achieving this. Once Leopards, Bradleys and Abrams start going boom I think a lot of people in Europe and America will become quickly disillusioned. Hell, people in the US are already pissed that we couldn't take down a weather balloon. When our multi million dollar invincible Abrams start blowing up only RTN and Ms
    Low Def will be coping about how the next wonder waffles will change the battle.

    4. Protect Russia's sovereignty. Russia has only taken and held on to those parts of Ukraine which concern Crimea. Zaprozhiye and Kherson provide Crimea water and electricity.

    5. Donbass. Its not Russia's fault that Ukraine and NATO had no interest in abiding in Minsk. Russia is grinding down Ukraine's lifeblood here. Its why Dirty sweater keeps talking about it. He wants to ethnic cleanse the region.

    6. No territorial gain. You'll notice Russia has taken vast swaths of Ukraine and pulled back on its own accord from it. It has no real designs on Ukrainian territory

    Maybe ISW thinks the goal is genocide. Well considering they killed only 9000 civilians and in Iraq in a given year NATO killed 36 to 250,000 civilians who were "acceptable collateral damage" that's a steaming pile

    It could also be that ISW is being mendacious. Might be both, the two aren't mutually exclusive.

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    Post  franco Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:57 pm


    2nd improvised Ukrainian cruise missile crashed now? Maybe Russia is using some EW means against them wrote:


    Probably crashed into a tree. It was flying very low and was probably not detected by the air defense system. This shows that cruise missiles flying at extremely low altitudes are very dangerous even for the defense of Russia. Interesting that the OTH radars didn't pick up?


    OTH radars are intended for long range but are blind at short range. The new Container OTH system can see out to 3500 km but is blind for the first 900 km.

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    Post  franco Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:11 pm

    I wonder two things about ISW:

    Do they know what Putin's maximalist war aims are or have they bought into their own projection and propaganda to the point they don't?


    Isn't ISW the org run by Nuland's sister and brother-in-law? Believe that basically answers your query

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:14 pm

    I have one thought re: those downed Strizhs.
    Remember when Russkie took down a whole Tomahawk salvo once in Syria?
    There were some rumors that the cause was jamming the GPS signal, and changing the altitude data. Which made all of the missiles struck into some mountain or something.
    If we consider that those drones has been reconfigured, with some navigation improvements, that would consist GPS surely, right?
    Soooo ... maybe w just watch the Russkie jamming in action? unshaven

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    Post  Arrow Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:15 pm

    Of course, ISW is typical propaganda.
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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:26 pm

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    Really great people that the west supports in 404.  No

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:39 pm

    Those are very nice people, considering that they are nazis.

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    Post  wilhelm Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:30 pm

    Anybody who posts an ISW shitpiece here needs to have their head examined.
    Please show some awareness of who they are.
    It's not difficult.

    Next you'll be quoting the Atlantic Council...

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    Post  Kiko Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:07 pm

    Chaos within:

    Media reports conflict in the Ukrainian government over possible reorganization of the Ministry of Defense, 02.06.2023.

    A conflict is breaking out between the head of the Office of the president of Ukraine Andrei Yermak and the parliamentary chairman of the servant of the People Party in the Supreme Rada (Ukrainian Parliament) David Arakhamia.

    The conflict arose in the face of rumors about the possible appointment of Kirill Budanov, head of military intelligence, to replace Aleksei Reznikov as Defense Minister, writes the Ukrainian edition Strana.ua.

    Earlier, Arakhamia said that Reznikov will be transferred from the post of Minister of Defense of Ukraine to the post of Minister of strategic industries, the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine will remain in his post. Reznikov himself said that this was the first time he had heard about this and that he was unlikely to accept the post.

    "In the Ukrainian government an acute internal conflict arises between the parliamentary chairman of the servant of the People Party David Arakhamia and the head of the president's office Andrei Yermak," he wrote Strana.ua, citing sources close to the Office of the Ukrainian president and the Servant of the People Party.

    According to sources, the conflict appeared a long time ago and broke out after Arakhamia, at a party session of the servant of the people, decided to replace Reznikov with Budanov.

    "Reznikov is Yermak's closest trusted person. Budanov is not from Yermak's team. It is an alternative channel to Yermak for direct communication with the president. So his dismissal is a very painful blow to Yermak. And his conflict with Arakhamia became as harsh as possible, " he writes Strana.ua, citing a source in the Verkhovna Rada.

    The interlocutors of the edition do not exclude that in the vote in parliament – after that the president of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky must still affirm the decision – the votes for the dismissal of Reznikov may not be enough.

    "Many point to a formal reason – Budanov cannot take the post of Defense Minister because, by law, the minister must be a civilian. That is, major General Budanov was supposed to give up his military post. But this is not a quick process. And the Ministry of Defense should not be left without a head in wartime – such an argument is put forward. They also say that Reznikov's guilt in the latest corruption scandals has not been proven and it is not possible to dismiss the defense minister on the basis of media publications," the source notes.

    In his opinion, the real reason why Parliament may not support the removal of Reznikov is Yermak's reluctance to "give up his man."

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:24 pm

    Those winning wars always frantically reshuffle their command structures. . . .

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