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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:03 am

    mntzr wrote:they already have frag warhead and cluster bomb rockets for Smerch. Even better it should mount the TOS 1 warhead on a Smerch missile.

    TOS-1 is a short range rocket with a very heavy warhead that takes up most of the round. You can't just bolt such specialised ordance onto a Smerch and expect it to fly. Such a combo wouldn't fit the launch tube, wouldn't fly straight, wouldn't have range.

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    Post  Erk Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:52 am

    Mugin-5 Pro 5000mm Carbon Fiber UAV Platform

    https://www.muginuav.com/product/mugin-5-pro-5000mm-carbon-fiber-uav-platform/


    Specifications:
      Wingspan: 5000mm    
      Length: 3500mm    
      Fuselage maximum width: 375mm    
      Wing area: 261.5 dm2    
      empty weight: 33.64kg    
      Maximum speed: 150km/hr    
      Cruise Speed: 120km/hr    
      Stalling speed: 55km/hr    
      Maximum Take-off Weight: 85kg    
      Payload: 25kg    
      Equipments cabin size: 1000mmx345mmx350mm    
      Volume of fuel tank: 30 Liters    
      Take off distance: 60 meters    
      Landing distance: 85 meters    
      Maximum Flying Time: >7 Hours


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    Post  thegopnik Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:05 am



    Any info how it was destroyed?
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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:34 am

    Probably ambushed. This is old. From March i think.

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    Post  PhSt Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:38 am

    Any info how it was destroyed?

    Do you even bother to do background research before you post something? Posting old material for the purpose of making it look like Russia has new material casualties, what is your agenda? Rolling Eyes

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:03 am

    sorry, i guess Ukraine likes to repost old information, should have known better.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:08 am

    Kornet has a speed of 300m/s. Slightly more than konkurs.

    Ataka and vikhr are much faster with a speed of 600m/s for vikhr which is almost mach 2. For air launched missile faster missiles are better specially when going against shorads.

    Konkurs drags a wire and moves at about 200m/s and is rather slow... like Metis and Faggot which also drag wires, but Kornet does not drag wires and is easily supersonic... 350m/s plus.

    Shturm is 450m/s and Ataka is 400m/s... these are average speeds BTW over max range with Ataka being slower because it reaches 1km further with the same motor and a heavier warhead.

    Vikhr has an average speed of 610m/s, with about 310-320m/s being the speed of sound at sea level.

    One of many famous Ukrainians died in Bakhmut, yet some British YouTuber performs mental gymnastics to prove that Bakhmut is not important for Ukraine

    Get out of here Stalker... Shocked

    Russian army needs to make a counterpart of this weapon to be used against NATzO and Khokhol terrorists

    Its so called precision was meaningless when hitting exposed civilian targets... a SMERCH rocket with a HE FRAG cluster warhead would have been 100 times more effective over much greater distances.

    #Ukraine: A Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter (RF-91335, 43 Yellow, formerly 43 White) was reportedly shot down by a Russian Pantsir-S1 in a friendly fire incident in #Zaporizhzhia Oblast.

    What was the number of the one forced to land early in the war? Note the canopy windows are open so they didn't eject... they landed and climbed out.

    The cost of one Mugin-5 UAV, which is freely available, does not exceed ten thousand dollars, which is much less than the cost of production of anti-aircraft missiles for modern air defense systems.

    Pantsir missiles and TOR missiles are cheap simple command guided missiles designed to be bought and used in enormous numbers... as this conflict shows... these two systems and the other systems they use have been produced in enormous numbers so with older missiles like S-300 this is just an opportunity to use old missiles up...

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:43 am

    Pulled out of a railway museum no doubt.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:53 am

    Real world testing underway  thumbsup




    How do they keep the vision ports and other optics mud free?

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    Many people asked where is Armata? Jouy Solovyov in his telegram said:
    I am returning from another trip to the front line with the first shots of the combat coordination of the crews of the T-14 Armata tanks.


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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:16 am

    A white Christmas but it isn't snow Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:18 am

    The kindly Russians making sure members of the UA are not cold on Christmas Eve.




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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:40 am

    JohninMK wrote:How do they keep the vision ports and other optics mud free?


    My bet would be that there are small nozzles for high-pressure water or other cleaning fluid embedded in the frame. That solution has been used elsewhere, together with mechanical wipers.

    Regarding the steam engine, I am pretty sure that's one of the old Soviet trains (here with the obligatory truzyb of course) they have used for retro-themed excursions for many years. Thus it is hard to say if the footage is recent.

    Cf:


    Plenty of those in Russia too.



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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:41 am

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    Judging by the map, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were nevertheless sent to cover the Kyiv and Chernihiv directions by one mechanized battalion in addition to the territorial defense brigades of the respective regions.

    To pull out more forces, apparently, no longer makes much sense, since at least four new brigades are completing coordination in training centers in the west of the country: the 47th and 67th mechanized, the 3rd assault and the 77th airmobile.
    These forces are quite enough to organize a cover for the northern border of Ukraine, and if there is no threat of opening a second front, to strengthen the grouping in the Donbass

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    The territorial defense would get smashed tho,

    I think raising even newly trained units would not be sufficient to cover the northern border

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    Post  Hinex1988 Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:54 am

    ⚡ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (25 December 2022)

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

    💥 In Kupyansk direction, over 30 Ukrainian personnel, 3 infantry fighting vehicles and 3 motor vehicles have been eliminated near Kislovka, Tabayevka and Berestovoye (Kharkov region).

    💥 In Krasny Liman direction, 2 company tactical groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) have been neutralised by artillery and heavy flamethrower systems near Terny (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ◻ Moreover, intensive action of Russian forces has resulted in the elimination of 2 AFU reconnaissance groups that operated towards Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).

    ◻ The enemy has suffered casualties of up to 60 Ukrainian personnel, 4 armoured fighting vehicles, and 3 pickups in the abovementioned direction.

    💥 In Donetsk direction, offensive action of Russian forces has resulted in the elimination of over 80 Ukrainian personnel and mercenaries, 2 tanks, 5 armoured fighting vehicles, and 4 motor vehicles.

    💥 In South Donetsk direction, 2 company tactical groups from 72nd Mechanised and 68th Chaser Infantry brigades of the AFU, that tried to counterattack the positions of Russian forces towards Pavlovka and Vladimirovka (Donetsk People's Republic), have been neutralised by artillery.

    ◻ Over the past 24 hours, the enemy has lost over 50 Ukrainian personnel in the abovementioned direction.

    ◻ 1 tank, and 3 armoured fighting vehicles have been destroyed.

    💥 Missile Troops and Artillery of the Group of Forces have neutralised 58 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and military hardware at 86 areas.

    ◻ 1 provisional base of a unit of foreign mercenaries has been neutralised near Artyomovsk (Donetsk People's Republic).

    💥 Within the counterbattery warfare, 2 Ukrainian fighting vehicles for Uragan multiple-launch rocket system (MLRS) have been destroyed near Seversk (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as two Grad MLRS systems near Makeyevka (Lugansk People's Republic).

    ◻ In addition, one Polish Krab self-propelled artillery system has been destroyed near Seversk (Donetsk People's Republic).

    ◻ 3 U.S.-manufactured M-777 artillery systems have been destroyed at their firing positions near Dobrovolye (Kharkov region), and Pleshcheyevka (Donetsk People's Republic).

    💥 Air defence facilities have shot down 5 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Zmiyevka, Ploshchanka (Lugansk People's Republic), Kirillovka, Maliy Kremenchik (Donetsk People's Republic), and Pologi (Zaporozhye region).

    ◻ Moreover, 6 rocket-propelled projectiles launched by HIMARS MLRS, and one launched by Uragan MLRS, have been intercepted near Zhitlovka and Krasnorechenskoye (Lugansk People's Republic), Kuibyshevo (Donetsk People's Republic), and Mirnoye (Zaporozhye region).

    📊 In total, 352 airplanes and 192 helicopters, 2,724 unmanned aerial vehicles, 399 air defence missile systems, 7,240 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 940 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,708 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,747 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.

    #MoD #Russia #Ukraine #report
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:26 pm

    Situation in the #Soledar Direction until 12:00 on 24 Dec 2022⚡

    🩸Fighting continues in and around #Bakhmut (#Artyomovsk). Russian troops are conducting a positional offensive, breaking through the AFU defence in several directions at once.

    ♦#Bakhmut and Soledar Areas:

    The most intense fighting is taking place in #Opytnoye, #Kleshchiyevka, #Podgorodnoye, as well as in the areas of #Dyleyevka and #Razdolovka.

    ▪ During the offensive, Russian assault groups established control over three platoon strongholds and three fire positions on the southern edge of #Podgorodnoye, two platoon strongholds in #Opytnoye on Shkolnaya Street and several positions on the #Yakovlevka - #Razdolovka line.

    ▪ In addition, Russian units are storming Ukrainian strongholds in #Kleshchiyevka, #Dyleyevka and #Druzhba, where the AFU's 28th Mechanized Brigade is holding positions.

    ▪ In order to slow down the offensive, the assault troops of the 3rd Battalion of the 28th Mechanised Brigade counterattacked the Russian positions near #Dyleyevka.

    The advancing troops were supported by army aviation helicopters and artillery crews of the 28th, 53rd and 105th Battalions of the 63rd Mechanized Brigade which fired indiscriminately at #Bakhmut, #Yakovlevka, #Ozaryanovka, #Kurdyumovka and #Mayorsk.

    The attack was repulsed. Some AFU units were withdrawn to reserve positions to restore combat readiness.

    ▪ In #Bakhmut, forces of the 58th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade established 28 firing positions on the southeastern outskirts of the city, with three pairs of snipers operating in residential areas. Ukrainian formations are equipped with ammunition, radios and thermal imaging devices.

    https://t.me/sitreports/2509

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:36 pm

    My bet would be that there are small nozzles for high-pressure water or other cleaning fluid embedded in the frame. That solution has been used elsewhere, together with mechanical wipers.

    I remember in the early 1990s tanks were being driven through areas with civilian protestors who got bits of cloth and paper and tried to block off the vision ports... I seem to remember high pressure air blasting them off/out and water spray too.

    Also keep in mind that without crew in the turret the Armata had to do something about battlefield visibility because even the best optics mounted on the hull don't get the best view of the battlefield.

    The optical sensors giving all round coverage around the tank in the form of cameras will generate a complete 360 degree unhindered view around the tank... the real time video images are stitched together by software and video processing hardware so the commander and crew can probably get a virtual real time view around the tank in visible and IR wavelengths most likely.

    They have a similar system for the Hind for looking for incoming ground fire, with the external sensors located around the aircraft it means the crew can get a virtual view and see the battlefield around them with their controls and cockpits or cabins invisible.

    Would be interesting to be watching that view and see a hand grenade land on the ground a few metres away from the tank... you would crap yourself but the armour would protect you completely... being able to see a hand grenade explode from up close while being perfectly safe would be a very odd feeling.

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    Post  PhSt Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:13 pm

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    So NATO has activated its arsonist sleeper cells inside Russia to spread mayhem and chaos. Such a cowardly act needs a swift and crushing response. I call on Russia to start conducting arsonist strikes on all NATO countries, especially the US and UK who are the top masterminds of the Pukrainian conflict.  attack
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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:25 pm

    Instead of hitting back at US-UK civilians, Russia needs to stop playing footsie with these clown states. For example, there are
    still sales of oil and LNG. Just stop them already.

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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:08 pm

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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:10 pm

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    Ukro side, Bakhmut

    Such fires happen regularly during the heating season in Russia. No need to see an enemy behind every corner.
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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:16 pm

    The number of trade center fires is totally anomalous in Russia. It is not random and seasonal. Why wouldn't the Kiev regime and
    its NATzO patrons engage in arson? It serves their objective to destabilize the Russian government. Creating agitation in the
    prole masses is a central feature of agit-prop. They need people to be irrational through fear in order to manipulate them.
    Do not assume that NATzO is not doing this. Regime change is its only real option to defeat Russia.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:32 pm


    Merry Christmas to the only Christian people in Europe.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:38 pm

    How many Armata does Russia have? how is it performing?

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