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    Post  nomadski Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:34 am




    The population of China is one Billion , population of Vietnam was a few million ! Yet the Vietnamese defeated them , during short war ! How dare the Chinese claim they are stronger ! Chinese hubris !

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:47 am

    nomadski wrote:


    The population of China is one Billion , population of Vietnam was a few million ! Yet the Vietnamese defeated them , during short war ! How dare the Chinese claim they are stronger ! Chinese hubris !


    You guys are shitting yourselves over the US and Vietnam defeated them.  Serbia got defeated, in their own country. Iran didn't fair very well in Iran-Iraq war when chemical weapons hit them.

    Then again, you are smarter than Russian MoD. With zero experience with that too.

    Etc etc etc.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:54 am

    People's self-confidence that they can do better than trained&skilled specialists never stops to amaze me Laughing

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    Post  nomadski Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:12 am

    Sephernox wrote " You guys are shitting yourselves over the US and Vietnam defeated them.  Serbia got defeated, in their own country. Iran didn't fair very well in Iran-Iraq war when chemical weapons hit them.Then again, you are smarter than Russian MoD. With zero experience with that too. " Look what you did now ! I was going to stop blogging and put on a fresh cup of coffee ! Yes it looked like military technical superiority alone  in Vietnam by the Americans  , did not win a war . Nor did the Chinese numerical superiority alone in Vietnam , win the war . But in Serbia , it did . But again Vietnam was much more armed , more men and equipment both ,  than Serbia . Looks like WMD , wins wars , both in Iran and Japan . I don't know about Russian MOD . I only use blogging and a little logic .


    Alamo wrote " People's self-confidence that they can do better than trained&skilled specialists never stops to amaze me Laughing , " people are always right , even when they are completely wrong . The Russian people have decided . Who are we to argue ? Even God , chooses to loose arguments , faced with the people . And in this case , people are both right and justified .
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:31 am

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    The night strike on the energy infrastructure of Valuyek is a direct consequence of the "regrouping" and the disappearance of the border buffer. In principle, the blow is competent - since Valuyki is an important node of the main Balashov passage (Samara - Penza - Rtishchevo - Valuyki - Kupyansk), through which supplies are carried out. Before the regrouping, the minimum distance to Valuyki was 90 km, and after the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered the state border in this area on a wide front, it was 20 km. Now you can use both MLRS and strike drones.

    Once again for clarity - a map of a week ago. Now the situation has seriously changed: the path circled in red can no longer be used, it passes directly along the front line. There is another consequence, not yet obvious to those who are asleep - the Armed Forces of Ukraine have approached the main highway to the Russian South at a distance of 120 km and where almost all trains go to Rostov, Novorossiysk, Crimea. This is not yet the radius at which it is possible to effectively work with the current means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but with the next "regrouping" in the north of the LPR, it may well be reduced.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:45 am

    amateurs.
    But i am not complaining.

    Warning! NSFW for troops getting run over by their own armor!
    18+! Ukrainian Mechanised unit panics in combat.


    DPR tanks hunting Ukrainian armor in the Donbass


    RF TOS-1A strike on Ukrainian troops near Kherson

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    Post  limb Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:01 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24 - Page 39 Img_2184

    The night strike on the energy infrastructure of Valuyek is a direct consequence of the "regrouping" and the disappearance of the border buffer. In principle, the blow is competent - since Valuyki is an important node of the main Balashov passage (Samara - Penza - Rtishchevo - Valuyki - Kupyansk), through which supplies are carried out. Before the regrouping, the minimum distance to Valuyki was 90 km, and after the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered the state border in this area on a wide front, it was 20 km. Now you can use both MLRS and strike drones.

    Once again for clarity - a map of a week ago. Now the situation has seriously changed: the path circled in red can no longer be used, it passes directly along the front line. There is another consequence, not yet obvious to those who are asleep - the Armed Forces of Ukraine have approached the main highway to the Russian South at a distance of 120 km and where almost all trains go to Rostov, Novorossiysk, Crimea. This is not yet the radius at which it is possible to effectively work with the current means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but with the next "regrouping" in the north of the LPR, it may well be reduced.

    This is absolute bullshit. Why the hell did russians have to retreat from the northern areas of kharkov(Udy, velikiy burluk)? Now theyve exposed belgorod even more to artillery fire, which otherwise wouldn't be able to reach it. Now they have even shorter notice of artillery strikes. Now ukrainian helicopters can easily cross the border undetected. Now even more AA assets must be spent on protecting russian territory. Who the hell is ok with this? They not only seem not to care about LDNR civilians getting shelled, but they don't care about russian civilians on russian territory getting shelled either.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:05 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    The night strike on the energy infrastructure of Valuyek is a direct consequence of the "regrouping" and the disappearance of the border buffer. In principle, the blow is competent - since Valuyki is an important node of the main Balashov passage (Samara - Penza - Rtishchevo - Valuyki - Kupyansk), through which supplies are carried out. Before the regrouping, the minimum distance to Valuyki was 90 km, and after the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered the state border in this area on a wide front, it was 20 km. Now you can use both MLRS and strike drones.

    Once again for clarity - a map of a week ago. Now the situation has seriously changed: the path circled in red can no longer be used, it passes directly along the front line. There is another consequence, not yet obvious to those who are asleep - the Armed Forces of Ukraine have approached the main highway to the Russian South at a distance of 120 km and where almost all trains go to Rostov, Novorossiysk, Crimea. This is not yet the radius at which it is possible to effectively work with the current means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but with the next "regrouping" in the north of the LPR, it may well be reduced.

    Especially they left Izyum and basically large portion of the Kharkov. That landlines will subject to Ukrainian artillery and MLRS strike.


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    Also news on "mass grave" in Izyum emerged.. well as expected that they may repeat another Bucha. Can Russia have more commitment this time to prevent another of that kind of effect. Russian military and command may not care but for NATO country policy maker.. it's a sign they will send more weapons of more exotic variety. and with Flow of weapons from Poland and surrounding nation left uncapped. It's gonna get very messy.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:16 am

    If you can read Russian get on telegram

    This from fighterbomber , doesn't look good:



    What I am reading is insane

    "It is 1917, big ships are sunk at sea, and governors are conducting mobilization on their own, while shoigu-gerasimov tandem are the worse military leadership since kurbsky, lmfao

    Konashenkov probably removed to novaya zemlya for failure of the info war

    And recruitment of the prisoners for our own dirlwanger brigade


    Meanwhile grandmother pensioners send 500 rubles to guys for medicine and walkie talkies while shoigu appointed hoes with big boobs and asses with stars on shoulder lapels as administrative assistants, this generally is the state of the red star peasants army

    All the meanwhile fireworks arrive in belgorod

    Donbass we weep for you, sorry to have elected such assholes who sip on latte and miso soup to power"

    I don't want to read the rest because it's simply depressing

    Most of Russians are infuriated with Moscow

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:24 am

    More from fighterbomber:

    No, it's not Moscow behind. Behind so far are Belgorod, Kursk, Donetsk, Lugansk, Voronezh. A little further away is all sorts of Tula, Oryol, Lipetsk. Here's how they will be taken - then Moscow is behind, then the officials can and will do something, and the borscht will smell (that is, never).
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    And now even the enemy has not entered the country. Everything is badass. Budgets go, assistants suck, barista brews coffee

    Hahahahaahaha ****, Westerns on forum, on Duran and the saker you simply cannot understand what happens in Russia, it's like 1917 becomes relatable !

    I suspect something is brewing if this is going around on vkontakte and generally the whole runet

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    Post  Scorpius Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:33 am

    Arrow wrote:

    Officially, it's 146 million, but counting the people who immigrated to Russia from eastern Ukraine, it will be 150 million. If Donbas, Zaporozhye and Kherson were to be included, it would be almost 160 million  Very Happy

    We still have no right to say that we are stronger than Syria or Iran, I guess.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:34 am

    So i guess if another rally is taking place in Moscow or elsewhere... it is support for war by removing Putin-co and replace them with someone more willing to take action.

    But then.. i guess i will limit myself to situation on the ground.

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    Post  Ned86 Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:39 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:If you can read Russian get on telegram

    This from fighterbomber , doesn't look good:



    What I am reading is insane

    "It is 1917, big ships are sunk at sea, and governors are conducting mobilization on their own, while shoigu-gerasimov tandem are the worse military leadership since kurbsky, lmfao

    Konashenkov probably removed to novaya zemlya for failure of the info war

    And recruitment of the prisoners for our own dirlwanger brigade


    Meanwhile grandmother pensioners send 500 rubles to guys for medicine and walkie talkies while shoigu appointed hoes with big boobs and asses with stars on shoulder lapels as administrative assistants, this generally is the state of the red star peasants army

    All the meanwhile fireworks arrive in belgorod

    Donbass we weep for you, sorry to have elected such assholes who sip on latte and miso soup to power"

    I don't want to read the rest because it's simply depressing

    Most of Russians are infuriated with Moscow

    Bunch of BS and exaggeration made by some blogger which will do anything in order to increase number of new comments on the post and possible get new followers/subscribers.

    Everything is falling apart while Russian cruise missiles and aviation is demolishing Ukraine. Yes they fired few missiles on some towns on the borders, but they will receive 10 times more devastating response soon. 

    Also, while system is falling apart Russia is expanding its influence and Mr. Putin is having the meeting with the representatives of the half of the world population.

    and yes Russia average wage in June increased to 

    66572 RUB/Month = 1100 USD / month 

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    Post  TMA1 Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:43 am

    Err Arkangelsk is this a good source? You seem pretty keen on only certain kinds of sources, like the people you feign to mock. Also stealthflanker have you asked yourself why it seems the west 8s so desperate to get Russia to mobilize?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:44 am

    So Moscow is telling the Russian people that their lives do not matter simply

    Navalny was arrested and the 5th column destroyed

    So it is all good in Moscow

    You can drive a Porsche, and own dacha, and earn promotions beneath the desk of the boss

    Power went out in Belgorod? Ahhh it's not the problem of us, thats for some little UAZ driving peasant to deal with

    Mobilization? Conduct it on your own bitch, do not ask Shoigu about it, he's busy with uhhhh other affairs

    Donbass? Please don't bother Moscow about it, I have this problem with my BMW , and my latte is still not ready yet

    I think what happened in Kharkov was not organized at all, but rather a message to Moscow

    I suspect more of this will happen, (ps Westerns you know absolutely fuckall what happens in Russia)

    Guys should all retreat behind Moscow,

    When hohols are destroying the garden ring road, then it is possible officials will begin to "start something"

    Army 2022 is a parallel universe to real Russia, that's for moscovites

    The rest of us, are to get to **** on our own ,

    In the words of some posters here, Ivan should just go to the front and stfu
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    Post  Stealthflanker Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:45 am

    TMA1 wrote:Also stealthflanker have you asked yourself why it seems the west 8s so desperate to get Russia to mobilize?

    Well i do tho.. if Russians do mobilize.. i think it's gonna be a WWIII. The pissed off Russians will finally shooting down NATO ISR's and ready nukes for some final showdown.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:45 am

    TMA1 wrote:Err Arkangelsk is this a good source? You seem pretty keen on only certain kinds of sources, like the people you feign to mock. Also stealthflanker have you asked yourself why it seems the west 8s so desperate to get Russia to mobilize?

    https://t.me/fighter_bomber/8569

    Read it and weep
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:47 am

    TMA1 wrote:Err Arkangelsk is this a good source? You seem pretty keen on only certain kinds of sources, like the people you feign to mock. Also stealthflanker have you asked yourself why it seems the west 8s so desperate to get Russia to mobilize?

    It's not only the west my friend

    Moscow issued an Ukaz to mobilize, except we should do it ourselves

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:57 am

    Ned86 wrote:

    Bunch of BS and exaggeration made by some blogger which will do anything in order to increase number of new comments on the post and possible get new followers/subscribers.

    Everything is falling apart while Russian cruise missiles and aviation is demolishing Ukraine. Yes they fired few missiles on some towns on the borders, but they will receive 10 times more devastating response soon. 

    Also, while system is falling apart Russia is expanding its influence and Mr. Putin is having the meeting with the representatives of the half of the world population.

    and yes Russia average wage in June increased to 

    66572 RUB/Month = 1100 USD / month 


    In other words, you know better than 99% of all Russians?

    Along with sepheronx, Alamo, Garryb, Kvs, And the rest of the chain gang?

    Sorry to burst your bubble, most definitely those rubles are in Moscow, and definitely not in Belgorod

    Here while army 2022 is praised and a video goes out about some BMP2 "berezhok" the reality is that belgorod lost electricity and some were maimed

    How long has it been since we have seen vids of kalibration?

    Now are only videos of Armenians getting knocked by azeris, and Tajik and Kyrgyz shooting each other to hell

    The statesman said its all under control and it's going according to plan tho

    What do I know, I should probably grab a gun and go to the front, since I am a lowly pussy without a Porsche
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:59 am

    Summary from an interesting view on Russia's strategy at the time of Kursk brought up to date. Long article

    It’s all quite breathtaking to behold.

    Few seem to be aware that the triumphant army that marched forth into the power vacuum the Russians created for them have been continually savaged by long-range artillery fire and airstrikes, which have already inflicted nearly 20% casualties upon the relatively exposed force.

    Few seem to appreciate that the pace of the initially rapid advance has now effectively ground to a halt, caught between the Oskil River to the east and the Seversky-Donets to the south, and it has proven unable to achieve appreciable success against the concentrations of Russian forces it is now encountering on the other sides of those rivers.

    And no one seems to be asking the most pertinent question: What will the Russians do next?

    There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

    Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities.

    I think the Ukraine supporters might be engaging in an orgy of premature exultation.

    I am persuaded the events of the past few weeks have been largely orchestrated pursuant to Russia’s ultimate objectives.

    I am convinced the Russians remain masters of the art of maskirovka, and that the masters of empire in Brussels, London, and Washington – as they always have – continue to underestimate Russian strategic acumen, operational capabilities, and clever resourcefulness.

    Even as NATO commanders in Kiev clink champagne flutes filled to the brim with looted Dom Perignon, and congratulate each other on a brilliantly conceived and expertly executed plan, I strongly suspect the other shoe is about to drop – and when it does, I expect it to fall like a thunderbolt on their unjustifiably inflated heads.


    https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/fall-like-a-thunderbolt


    EDIT LATER COMMENT ADDED

    I don't disagree about lack of understanding about "the Russian way of making war" Peter. I posted the link more to suggest that the SMO - in many ways - is NOT and can't possibly be the Russian way of making war - because the SMO is not being conducted solely by the Russian Army.

    Some of the forces are Russian Army and Russian generals ostensibly command and control the overall operation. But it does this as best it can with a confederation of disparate forces that, to a large degree, act approximately towards the same goals but not in a unified, well-coordinated way nor with anywhere near the same motivations and certainly not with the same equipment and training. That's not the fault of Russian commanders or Russian military doctrine, it's simply the reality of what they have to work with now in the SMO.

    I can appreciate William Schryver's maskirovka analysis, but he seems to direct his logic mostly at NATO/Ukrainians crowing about some kind of decisive, well-planned military victory. In fact, they just acted to advance into territory Russia was clearly no longer willing to defend at any cost - because Russia needed the troops elsewhere.

    I don't think Russia would have retreated at all if they had all the regular Russian troops/equipment they needed elsewhere -and- could keep a sufficient, well-equipped and rested regular Russian force in place to hold the Izium front. Without both of those conditions, I think it's a bit of a stretch to conjure a clever maskirovka op to explain Russian actions.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:08 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Summary from an interesting view on Russia's strategy at the time of Kursk brought up to date. Long article

    It’s all quite breathtaking to behold.

    Few seem to be aware that the triumphant army that marched forth into the power vacuum the Russians created for them have been continually savaged by long-range artillery fire and airstrikes, which have already inflicted nearly 20% casualties upon the relatively exposed force.

    Few seem to appreciate that the pace of the initially rapid advance has now effectively ground to a halt, caught between the Oskil River to the east and the Seversky-Donets to the south, and it has proven unable to achieve appreciable success against the concentrations of Russian forces it is now encountering on the other sides of those rivers.

    And no one seems to be asking the most pertinent question: What will the Russians do next?

    There seems to be a pervasive assumption that this apparent battlefield “victory” has been so humiliatingly complete that the Russians have been ruined; psychologically broken; that they are no longer capable of operations; that they are now a beaten, trembling mob of frightened “orcs” nervously awaiting the next train back to wherever it was they came from.

    Those cheering as the victory parade rolls down the streets of Kiev, London, and Washington appear to have forgotten that Russia’s “special military operation” up to this point has employed a minor fraction of its military capability, and that the Russian objective, from the beginning, has not been to conquer territory, per se, but to comprehensively destroy Ukrainian military capabilities.

    I think the Ukraine supporters might be engaging in an orgy of premature exultation.

    I am persuaded the events of the past few weeks have been largely orchestrated pursuant to Russia’s ultimate objectives.

    I am convinced the Russians remain masters of the art of maskirovka, and that the masters of empire in Brussels, London, and Washington – as they always have – continue to underestimate Russian strategic acumen, operational capabilities, and clever resourcefulness.

    Even as NATO commanders in Kiev clink champagne flutes filled to the brim with looted Dom Perignon, and congratulate each other on a brilliantly conceived and expertly executed plan, I strongly suspect the other shoe is about to drop – and when it does, I expect it to fall like a thunderbolt on their unjustifiably inflated heads.


    https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/fall-like-a-thunderbolt

    William Schryver

    Wow he sounds like an expert in the example of mercouris or lira


    Back in the real world:

    🇺🇦🇷🇺⚡The Prosecutor General of the LPR died in an explosion in the building of the Prosecutor General's Office in Lugansk - 112
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    Post  Scorpius Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:21 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:If you can read Russian get on telegram

    This from fighterbomber , doesn't look good:



    What I am reading is insane

    "It is 1917, big ships are sunk at sea, and governors are conducting mobilization on their own, while shoigu-gerasimov tandem are the worse military leadership since kurbsky, lmfao

    Konashenkov probably removed to novaya zemlya for failure of the info war

    And recruitment of the prisoners for our own dirlwanger brigade


    Meanwhile grandmother pensioners send 500 rubles to guys for medicine and walkie talkies while shoigu appointed hoes with big boobs and asses with stars on shoulder lapels as administrative assistants, this generally is the state of the red star peasants army

    All the meanwhile fireworks arrive in belgorod

    Donbass we weep for you, sorry to have elected such assholes who sip on latte and miso soup to power"

    I don't want to read the rest because it's simply depressing

    Most of Russians are infuriated with Moscow

    Give me a direct link to the post. I don't see this in Fighter-bomber channel in Telegram.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:27 pm

    Scorpius wrote:

    Give me a direct link to the post. I don't see this in Fighter-bomber channel in Telegram.

    https://t.me/fighter_bomber/8569
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:37 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:If you can read Russian get on telegram

    This from fighterbomber , doesn't look good:



    What I am reading is insane

    "It is 1917, big ships are sunk at sea, and governors are conducting mobilization on their own, while shoigu-gerasimov tandem are the worse military leadership since kurbsky, lmfao

    Konashenkov probably removed to novaya zemlya for failure of the info war

    And recruitment of the prisoners for our own dirlwanger brigade


    Meanwhile grandmother pensioners send 500 rubles to guys for medicine and walkie talkies while shoigu appointed hoes with big boobs and asses with stars on shoulder lapels as administrative assistants, this generally is the state of the red star peasants army

    All the meanwhile fireworks arrive in belgorod

    Donbass we weep for you, sorry to have elected such assholes who sip on latte and miso soup to power"

    I don't want to read the rest because it's simply depressing

    Most of Russians are infuriated with Moscow

    Give me a direct link to the post. I don't see this in Fighter-bomber channel in Telegram.

    Тандем Шойгу-Герасимов пока претендует на звание худшего военного руководства со времен Курбского, наверное

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    Ага. А ещё Конашенкова за провал информационной войны понизить в звании и отправить служить на Новую Землю.)))

    Hahaha
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:40 pm

    Some gems for Russians:

    Походу Москва больше не считает себя Россией. Пока у нас бабули от пенсии ребятам отправляют по 500р на лекарства и снарягу, эти... фейерверки запускают. Ппц...
    Не чуют угрозы они совсем. Расслабленные. Или считают, что это их не коснется никогда. Зря.
    На Урале хорошо помнят, что и как было еще в 40х. Пока в этих мажорных шлюхокабинетах такие персонажи сидят, никаких ударов по объектам инфраструктуры 404 мы не дождемся. Чистить пора. Всю эту шваль. Но кому... хех.

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