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    Post  thegopnik Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:03 pm

    mr_hd wrote:Most people here are extremely delusional.
    War that Russia started in Ukraine will not be won, Russia is running out of options and its leadership is still extremely arrogant and way over confident, so the fall into reality will be more hard I am afraid.

    From pure militaristic point, once one shuts down emotions, Ukrainian execution past two months is simply brilliant and Russian forces were totally outmaneuvered, outstretched and outfoxed - that is simple hard truth and situation on the front reflects that.

    Be aware that Ukraine will now get more united and resolute. Their goal and position is simple- Russian forces are invading army into the teritory of soverign country, it will be kicked out and its staying on the Ukrainian soil is non negotiable. They will not give a crap what Russia will say about that and will fight till their land is free. That is message sent to Russia from the day one and Ukraine is delivering to that promise.

    Russian side on the other side has nor clear militarly speaking goals, they changed couple of times already and even its military does not have pure picture what their overall end goal is there. That is bad position to be in addition to front line that is more than 1500km long. I feel sorry to Russian soldiers that  are sent  into such a mess and to all pro Russian population there.

    Russia does not have man power to rule Ukraine, that story is over couple of years ago.

    Ps. and it is not first time in history that great power will lose war against smaller opponent, look into Vietnam or Afganistan examples...

    Russians are taking kids gloves off and treating the war seriously now means they are losing...What logic is this?

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:04 pm

    Oh shit, that must have been massive Shocked

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    Post  Isos Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:05 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Mir wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:

    Mad

    Told you. Su-34 and su-30 have no room for modern bathlefield. They are huge and easy to target for radar systems.

    Would be the same for f-15.

    Do you have the numbers of all the Su-30/34's lost so far during this conflict. I think they had about 280 or so in service?

    Ask as well how many sorties they done as well.

    Isos doesn't actually know, none of us knows.

    Very few since even the soldiers on the ground were wondering where the air force disapeared.

    With the su-25, I think the overall number should be 12 or so jets lost which is too much.

    Abd lot of sorties are made to launch missiles like kh-31 or kh-29/59 from russian controlled territory.
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:06 pm

    I didn't know cocaine is phosphorescent until now. Razz

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    Post  Isos Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:07 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Oh shit, that must have been massive Shocked

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    IMO on the target scale, he and his generals are the next step. If he is dumb to attack russian territory like many pro ukro accounts said, they will get ride of him.
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    Post  Firebird Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:08 pm

    mr_hd wrote:Most people here are extremely delusional.
    War that Russia started in Ukraine will not be won, Russia is running out of options and its leadership is still extremely arrogant and way over confident, so the fall into reality will be more hard I am afraid.

    From pure militaristic point, once one shuts down emotions, Ukrainian execution past two months is simply brilliant and Russian forces were totally outmaneuvered, outstretched and outfoxed - that is simple hard truth and situation on the front reflects that.

    Be aware that Ukraine will now get more united and resolute. Their goal and position is simple- Russian forces are invading army into the teritory of soverign country, it will be kicked out and its staying on the Ukrainian soil is non negotiable. They will not give a crap what Russia will say about that and will fight till their land is free. That is message sent to Russia from the day one and Ukraine is delivering to that promise.

    Russian side on the other side has nor clear militarly speaking goals, they changed couple of times already and even its military does not have pure picture what their overall end goal is there. That is bad position to be in addition to front line that is more than 1500km long. I feel sorry to Russian soldiers that  are sent  into such a mess and to all pro Russian population there.

    Russia does not have man power to rule Ukraine, that story is over couple of years ago.

    Ps. and it is not first time in history that great power will lose war against smaller opponent, look into Vietnam or Afganistan examples...

    Truly pathetic and grotesque levels of propaganda and deception there. At least we can see what you are though.
    Were you jerking off to posters of Bandera when typing that?
    :rolleyes:

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:09 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Very few since even the soldiers on the ground were wondering where the air force disapeared.
    With the su-25, I think the overall number should be 12 or so jets lost which is too much.
    Abd lot of sorties are made to launch missiles like kh-31 or kh-29/59 from russian controlled territory.

    You obviously broadcast from some other galaxy dunno
    The only sure thing for a long, is that aviation is working as a bloody rollercoaster.
    Soldiers on the ground are cheering the aviators for a good job done.
    I do remember that a river boat should have a battery of global range missiles installed, otherwise it is a fuckup - but you still keep amazing me!


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    Post  Arsenic Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:09 pm

    "Internet outages have begun in the Kharkiv region"

    "Kharkiv and Donetsk regions are completely de-energized, and Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, and Sumy regions are partially de-energized. The blow was inflicted on the Kharkiv CHP-5 - one of the largest in the country"

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:18 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Very few since even the soldiers on the ground were wondering where the air force disapeared.

    With the su-25, I think the overall number should be 12 or so jets lost which is too much.

    Abd lot of sorties are made to launch missiles like kh-31 or kh-29/59 from russian controlled territory.
    In Desert Storm Allies lost 75 planes in same time. And Iraqi AD was antiquated mish mash of systems and without any outside  help Ukrainians have. I wouldn't be surprised that Ukrainians get real time coverage of their skies from US AWACS planes flying around.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:18 pm

    🇷🇺Ghost of kherson🇷🇺
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    ⚔⚔⚔a sad short story the speech of Pan Zelensky tonight⚔⚔⚔
    https://twitter.com/ILRUSSO1/status/1569040618512326663

    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:20 pm

    Ghost of kherson🇷🇺
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    2 Min.
    ⚔⚔⚔The enemy declared total war on Russia, Russia begins to respond harshly
    The terrorist, the state announced, announced today that there will be no negotiations with Russia until a Donbass, Crimea is given up and we are "demilitarized"⚔⚔⚔
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    Post  Arsenic Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:25 pm

    It is also time to destroy all the Ukrainian railway networks which are used to transport all the heavy weapons from the west to the east...

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:26 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Very few since even the soldiers on the ground were wondering where the air force disapeared.

    With the su-25, I think the overall number should be 12 or so jets lost which is too much.

    Abd lot of sorties are made to launch missiles like kh-31 or kh-29/59 from russian controlled territory.
    In Desert Storm Allies lost 75 planes in same time. And Iraqi AD was antiquated mish mash of systems and without any outside  help Ukrainians have. I wouldn't be surprised that Ukrainians get real time coverage of their skies from US AWACS planes flying around.

    Much more than that.
    All the Iraqi AD was given on a silver plate to the allied forces, as it was Alcatel who made all the comm hubs, servers etc.
    Froggies gave all the strategic importance data. All the Tomahawks and Paveways just strike a precisely known locations, dismantling the entire organized AD system Iraq had in the very first hour. What was left, is just a bunch of sole systems with no comm&support. Considering that the most modern they had was a Rapier, killing of dozens of allied airforce boards is a direct proof of determination, skill & courage of the crews.


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    Post  LMFS Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:26 pm

    Hole wrote:Long lines at petrol stations, people waiting for hours for bread. Civilians suffer so that the Nazi suicide squad can drive into action on the back of old western APC´s.

    Certainly the country and its people are to be used and discarded as a condom by the nazi and their handlers, but still it is a vast territory that inherited lots of soviet infrastructure and this was the idea all along, to create a dangerous and capable enemy for Russia. The General Staff certainly will have calculated the amount of attrition needed to render them inoffensive and I assume that is a hell of a lot, more considering the life support by the West and the absolute lack of regard for the own population and infrastructure. That is why a lengthy operation is needed, that Russia must be able to sustain indefinitely with minimum drain of resources. Otherwise it is a win for the West, despite all the whining from the resident trolls and chicken littles...

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    Post  Arsenic Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:32 pm

    https://t.me/ukraina_ru/99229

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    Post  walle83 Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:39 pm

    limb wrote:A flight of 50 Su-24Ms with svp-24s and 6 fab 500seach, and 40 Su-34s armed with 2 KAB-1500Ss, escorted by 60 Su-30SMsshpuld be sent to bomb at least 10 of the dniepr bridges.

    If Russia wants to loose half of all the aircrafts to Ukraine air defence, sure go for it.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:52 pm

    Looks like they have digged another sea Laughing

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    Just for the records, it is an obvious trolling Laughing

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:17 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇷🇺🇺🇦❗All goals of the special operation will be achieved - Medvedev

    Time to stop acting weak, destroy Ukraine

    So they are finally knocking out power stations and railroads again. Well good, they also need to be hitting bridges, airports, rail stations, and military and government buildings. Elensky should be whining and complaining in Warsaw.

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    Post  limb Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:20 pm

    Firebird wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:Finally hearing some good news that Russia is escalating and actually hitting Ukronazis where it hurts tonight. Good! But more needs to be done. Cyber warfare attack on the whole of Ukraine. Bomb Kiev like NATO bombed Belgrade, bomb everything important in the country. Wipe it off the map!!! Increase the troops levels, increase heavy weaponry and start using the latest and best weaponry, go on the offensive in the east and tell Belarus to invade from the north. Go all out!!! Please Russia!!!

    You dont need to carpet bomb Kiev or similar places
    Its the Mother City of the Rus with vast numbers of pro RUssians and valuable buildings and cathedrals.
    Bomb the cities of Russia's enemies. Kiev is occupied by the enemy.
    Hit military barracks and the like not pro Russian people.

    And BTW the levels of pro Bandera-scum, pro GATO faggotry are an embarrassment to read let alone post. Its like a Western faggot "pride" week with its gargantuan levels of idiocy.

    Russia needs to hit hard but people don't listen to Banderashills for your "news". ANd Western MSM is NOT a credible source. Simple stuff really.
    The mother city of rus is novgorod. kiev was a khazar slave market.

    BTW I count no more than 8 Su-25s lost in the SMO.
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    Post  limb Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:21 pm

    walle83 wrote:
    limb wrote:A flight of 50 Su-24Ms with svp-24s and 6 fab 500seach, and 40 Su-34s armed with 2 KAB-1500Ss, escorted by 60 Su-30SMsshpuld be sent to bomb at least 10 of the dniepr bridges.

    If Russia wants to loose half of all the aircrafts to Ukraine air defence, sure go for it.

    Russians can easily jam all ukrop SAMs, and nasams can be spoofed by chaff and evaded. The only threat is optically guided buk, but this can be evaded by flying into clouds and going outside of its range.
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    Post  Hole Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:24 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:I was thinking at the consequence for the future of malarossiya, without all those powerplants.

    Then I thought that they were all soviet built and at least 40 years old. They need to be retired and new more modern powerplants needs to be built.
    So basically the Russians are only anticipating the retirement of a few years. Once the area comes under russian control they can anyway link it to the Russian energy grid.

    I am more worried for Chernobyl and the remaining nuclear power plants in the rest of the ukraine. There are two in North west Ukraine, not far from the belorussian border and one in the north of Nikolayev oblast.
    I fear the Ukrainians will try to create an accident in one of those...
    All powerplants in 404 were build before 1991. De-communization continues.

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    Post  Hole Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:25 pm

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    Post  Arrow Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:27 pm

    Of course, if this happened every day, there would be a change. This is probably a single show by the Kremlin after their recent military "successes" in the Kharkiv region. Power is already being restored in many regions.


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    Post  Hole Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:28 pm

    ALAMO wrote:You know what?
    This is the kind of scenario I was considering in Jan/Feb.
    Russia using its overwhelming technological advantage, and just bomb the shit out of them
    And asking once a day, are they done already?
    Hit the targets one by one, down to the list, waiting until they will get some sanity.
    Well, it didn't end up this way, so I still have an aired question : why?
    And more and more I am convinced, that they knew something that changed the situation drastically.
    I´m more and more getting the impression that the summer months were just a preparation. Killing scores of Nazi fighters, destroying a lot of the military infrastructure. Getting your own troops into the right positions. Look at all those rotations and re-groupings in the last weeks. All the stuff coming out of depots and getting refurbished. All those volunteer units coming "online".

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:29 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #24 - Page 3 Fczgjp10

    Oh no!
    No more funny memes from #NAFO!?!
    I reject!
    Laughing Laughing

    Hole wrote:
    I´m more and more getting the impression that the summer months were just a preparation. Killing scores of Nazi fighters, destroying a lot of the military infrastructure. Getting your own troops into the right positions. Look at all those rotations and re-groupings in the last weeks. All the stuff coming out of depots and getting refurbished. All those volunteer units coming "online".

    Hm, I would say that this all is just an effect of a de facto Russkie mobilization.
    Just made in quiet, so our armchair stavka hasn't noticed Laughing


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