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    Post  Regular Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:35 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:It looks like they caught Strelkov, with fake passport, trying to cross to Zaporozhye from Crimea. He would, probably, try to make some rag tag unit and start big offensive.🤣🤣
    Guy is turning into a meme.

    I wouldn't be surprised if itt was a joint SBU/FSB operation to stop the disaster Laughing

    Well, you have to give it to the man. He doesn't like to sit on his hands and do **** all. Now back to being a hot air balloon.
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:51 pm

    Regular wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:It looks like they caught Strelkov, with fake passport, trying to cross to Zaporozhye from Crimea. He would, probably, try to make some rag tag unit and start big offensive.🤣🤣
    Guy is turning into a meme.

    I wouldn't be surprised if itt was a joint SBU/FSB operation to stop the disaster Laughing

    Well, you have to give it to the man. He doesn't like to sit on his hands and do **** all. Now back to being a hot air balloon.
    Start general mobilization and put First Ukrainian Front under his command.🤣

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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:07 pm

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    Post  calripson Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:47 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Hole wrote:That happens when most of your soldiers have trouble to write and read properly. Or math. 2 + 2 = something around 5,2???  :
    Do you have figures for how effective Russian ATGMs have been in this war in hitting targets?

    You can ask the IDF how effective they were in Lebanon.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:52 am

    Sorry if it was posted already:

    Ukrainian prisoner spoke about the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for an attack on the Donbass

    August 9 2022

    Russia worked ahead of the curve, having managed to strike first and confuse not only the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also their Western curators. If they had delayed a little more, Donbass and Russia would have had to defend themselves. According to the prisoners, Kyiv was actively preparing an offensive.

    The Ukrainian army was preparing for an attack on the Donbass, the task was to "liberate their land", while it was not excluded that, with a successful combination of circumstances, the Armed Forces of Ukraine could "go further." This was told by a captured soldier of the 53rd mechanized brigade Vadim Agafonov.

    According to him, shortly before the start of the Russian special military operation, among the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they increasingly began to talk about an imminent attack on the Donbass, about the intention to "get ahead of the Russians" and prevent them from hitting first. At the same time, it was argued that the West would provide support to Ukraine, up to the introduction of its troops, if the Armed Forces of Ukraine "go against Russia." As the prisoner said, basically the talk about the imminent offensive was among the officers, political officers, some of the information was brought to the rank and file.

    They carried out propaganda, brought all sorts of brochures about how bloodthirsty the Russian world is ... That Ukraine is a single nation. There was something like the ideology of fascism ... They said that we need to attack Russia, defeat this evil empire, recapture our lands

    - added Agafonov.

    https://en.topwar.ru/200063-ukrainskij-plennyj-rasskazal-o-podgotovke-vsu-k-napadeniju-na-donbass.html

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    Post  LMFS Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:09 am

    ⚡⚡⚡Ukrainian Nazi Korchinsky proposed to strike at Zaporizhia NPP:

    "Yes, it's a risk. Many people will suffer, but even more people will suffer if Russian administrations and nuclear facilities are not attacked now. We need to strike, there is no other way."

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    https://t.me/Republic_Of_GaGauZia/11308

    They say it with a straight face as if it was the only reasonable approach, let that sink in...

    pale pale pale

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    Post  LMFS Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:32 am

    Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov awarded the title Hero of Russia

    August 12, 2022, 00: 58

    Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov was awarded the title Hero of Russia for bravery, bravery and heroism shown in the performance of military duty. This was announced on August 12 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    On May 7, 2022, Lieutenant Colonel Sizov performed a combat mission to provide air cover for Russian army units that held Zmeiny Island. During a combat patrol, he identified an enemy Mi-8 helicopter that was flying in the air defense zone at extremely low altitude near the Romanian border.

    After a quick assessment of the situation, Sizov decided to attack the target. The enemy tried to leave in the direction of Romania and began to shoot back from all types of weapons. Despite the threat from the enemy's S-300 anti-aircraft system and the helicopter's resistance, Sizov was hit by a helicopter at extremely low altitude and at a speed of 1200 km / h.

    According to the Ukrainian media, the helicopter was carrying the Deputy Commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Colonel Igor Bedzai, along with a group of special-purpose foreign advisers.

    The competent and skillful actions of Lieutenant Colonel Sizov made it possible to disrupt the capture of Zmeiny Island by Ukrainian militants and prevent the destruction of units of the Russian Armed Forces.

    At the same time, Lieutenant Colonel Sizov during an air battle destroyed two MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, which he discovered during a patrol.

    In total, during the special operation, Sizov eliminated 11 enemy aircraft, as well as two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems.

    https://iz.ru/1378513/2022-08-12/podpolkovnik-ilia-sizov-udostoen-zvaniia-geroia-rossii

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:30 am

    kvs wrote:
    PhSt wrote:


    If I recall from a post earlier, shutting down the npp will prevent any potential radiation contamination in the event of a successful hit. so why not just turn off the entire facility?


    Since the power plant is still servicing Kiev regime power consumption, this is a good idea.   Let eat their own shit.


    Given that Russia controls Energodar, it also controls the electrical switching yards associated with the power transmission lines that distribute the NPPs energy to the rest of Ukraine, both Free Ukraine (Novorossiya) and the regime-held Occupied Ukraine (Mordor). It would be a simple matter to isolate the feeds to nazi-land yet the russian authorities don't go that far as it would badly hurt the Joe/Ivan in occupied areas.  

    Contrast this to the regimes disgusting actions of cutting electricity and fresh water supply to the Crimean peninsula. Nice examples of the relative morality of the two sides (and those that back them as the "ethical West" never once condemned the attempt by Kiev to trigger a water crisis).

    IMHO it may be the spectre of Russia finally acting to cut electricity to the regime that is fuelling the shelling on Energodar.  Create a crisis, appeal to the IAEA, put pressure on Russia to relinquish control of the plant (to external actors sympathetic to Kiev), and thereby safeguard their power supply. Not gonna happen however.  Russia will never surrender what is now essentially a Russian state asset. Twisted Evil

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:39 am

    PhSt wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    Since the power plant is still servicing Kiev regime power consumption, this is a good idea.   Let eat their own shit.


    now that you mention it, Russia should seriously consider kalibrating non-nuclear power stations across Pukraine. NATzO can supply them with power at their own expense attack

    Why destroy what will soon be Russian state assets?  Twisted Evil

    By all means however, destroy the vital infrastructure in Lvov.  I doubt that Moscow wants that orc-infested shthole. Best to reduce it to rubble and drive them into Pooland.

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    Post  crod Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:44 am

    LMFS wrote:Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov awarded the title Hero of Russia

    August 12, 2022, 00: 58

    Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov was awarded the title Hero of Russia for bravery, bravery and heroism shown in the performance of military duty. This was announced on August 12 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    On May 7, 2022, Lieutenant Colonel Sizov performed a combat mission to provide air cover for Russian army units that held Zmeiny Island. During a combat patrol, he identified an enemy Mi-8 helicopter that was flying in the air defense zone at extremely low altitude near the Romanian border.

    After a quick assessment of the situation, Sizov decided to attack the target. The enemy tried to leave in the direction of Romania and began to shoot back from all types of weapons. Despite the threat from the enemy's S-300 anti-aircraft system and the helicopter's resistance, Sizov was hit by a helicopter at extremely low altitude and at a speed of 1200 km / h.

    According to the Ukrainian media, the helicopter was carrying the Deputy Commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Colonel Igor Bedzai, along with a group of special-purpose foreign advisers.

    The competent and skillful actions of Lieutenant Colonel Sizov made it possible to disrupt the capture of Zmeiny Island by Ukrainian militants and prevent the destruction of units of the Russian Armed Forces.

    At the same time, Lieutenant Colonel Sizov during an air battle destroyed two MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, which he discovered during a patrol.

    In total, during the special operation, Sizov eliminated 11 enemy aircraft, as well as two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems.

    https://iz.ru/1378513/2022-08-12/podpolkovnik-ilia-sizov-udostoen-zvaniia-geroia-rossii

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    Post  Backman Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:14 am

    caveat emptor wrote:It looks like they caught Strelkov, with fake passport, trying to cross to Zaporozhye from Crimea. He would, probably, try to make some rag tag unit and start big offensive.🤣🤣
    Guy is turning into a meme.

    who caught strelkov
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:14 am

    LMFS wrote:Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov awarded the title Hero of Russia

    August 12, 2022, 00: 58

    Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov was awarded the title Hero of Russia for bravery, bravery and heroism shown in the performance of military duty. This was announced on August 12 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    .....
    According to the Ukrainian media, the helicopter was carrying the Deputy Commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Colonel Igor Bedzai, along with a group of special-purpose foreign advisers.
    .......

    So did he shoot down that helicopter or not?




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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:32 am

    Backman wrote:
    who caught strelkov
    On the border. Russian border guards. He tried to cross with a fake passport.
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    Post  thegopnik Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:53 am

    LMFS wrote:Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov awarded the title Hero of Russia

    August 12, 2022, 00: 58

    Lieutenant Colonel Ilya Sizov was awarded the title Hero of Russia for bravery, bravery and heroism shown in the performance of military duty. This was announced on August 12 by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

    On May 7, 2022, Lieutenant Colonel Sizov performed a combat mission to provide air cover for Russian army units that held Zmeiny Island. During a combat patrol, he identified an enemy Mi-8 helicopter that was flying in the air defense zone at extremely low altitude near the Romanian border.

    After a quick assessment of the situation, Sizov decided to attack the target. The enemy tried to leave in the direction of Romania and began to shoot back from all types of weapons. Despite the threat from the enemy's S-300 anti-aircraft system and the helicopter's resistance, Sizov was hit by a helicopter at extremely low altitude and at a speed of 1200 km / h.

    According to the Ukrainian media, the helicopter was carrying the Deputy Commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Colonel Igor Bedzai, along with a group of special-purpose foreign advisers.

    The competent and skillful actions of Lieutenant Colonel Sizov made it possible to disrupt the capture of Zmeiny Island by Ukrainian militants and prevent the destruction of units of the Russian Armed Forces.

    At the same time, Lieutenant Colonel Sizov during an air battle destroyed two MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, which he discovered during a patrol.

    In total, during the special operation, Sizov eliminated 11 enemy aircraft, as well as two Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems.

    https://iz.ru/1378513/2022-08-12/podpolkovnik-ilia-sizov-udostoen-zvaniia-geroia-rossii

    the true ghost of kiev.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:07 am

    That guy have more Kills than Maj. Viktor Dudin ;-;

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:04 am

    Alright guys I've had enough. All search engines duckduckgo and even yandex show the same results in videos when it comes to vaccine stuff and especially this conflict. I remember you guys talking about alternatives I need em. This is getting disturbing. I was talking to a friend about this he didnt know what I was talking about. I am not a fan of gnome chompski but his book manufactured consent is spot on. Wtf.

    Someone mentioned an addon and another mentioned a search engine that isnt tailored against dissident narratives. What is out there?

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:21 am

    TMA1 wrote:Alright guys I've had enough. All search engines duckduckgo and even yandex show the same results in videos when it comes to vaccine stuff and especially this conflict. I remember you guys talking about alternatives I need em. This is getting disturbing. I was talking to a friend about this he didnt know what I was talking about. I am not a fan of gnome chompski but his book manufactured consent is spot on. Wtf.

    Someone mentioned an addon and another mentioned a search engine that isnt tailored against dissident narratives. What is out there?

    What is exactly the issue you are facing?

    To start, I would keep tabs on two specific youtubers who are pretty good at keeping things in check in terms of this conflict. While there are complaints, no one is perfect:

    - Jimmy Dore: American comedian who is very heavy into the politics. He himself actually got sick and now has a permanent damage due to the Vaccine. He is well known for bringing on great journalists like Canadian Journalist Aaron Matte (spelling may be off), Glen Greenwald, GreyZone guys, etc. He isn't really exactly 100% and I do disagree with a lot he says on various topics, but he is trying hard to get the facts and also to present them to people.

    - The Duran: Mentioned a few times here already, but the two Alex's are trying their best to get various facts and have been very accurate on a lot of stuff. While members such as myself or KVS have complaints on their opinions, the guys admit they are not military men or know of full situations. But they do have two great guests that go on quite often - Gonzalo lira who lives in Kharkov Ukraine and Barnes Lawyer (I keep forgetting his name, sorry).

    These two guys are very good and in the know on a lot of stuff.

    Now for websites and search engines. You will be hard press to find much alternatives as Yandex and Google both kinda corner the market. Yandex on what we get out west which I bet most use is actually based out in Netherlands and is heavily censored. But their Russian one would be far better and have been slapped on the wrist multiple times for any bias. But two search engines that seem to be pretty decent so far have been:
    - Pre-search: its a Web 3 based search engine which also rewards you in PRE tokens (crypto) for searching. Their search engine actually connects to multiple search engines and tries to find closest accurate search.
    - Brave Browsers Search engine: This one is growing in popularity because its also supposed to be anti censorship and collecting of data. Then again, Duck Duck Go was once one of those (now part of Microsoft of all things).

    Websites to keep an eye on are:
    Sdelanounas - This site is perfect for development going on in Russia.
    Yandex Zen - lots of sites and groups setting up small quick post blogs through this and so did Sdelanounas and a few others which I get good articles from in Russian tech development and economics.
    VK.ru (auto moves to .com for us westerners) is a very popular facebook alternative. Believe it or not, that is where you can get a lot of info on various sides and they are not big onto censorship as of I am aware. That is where a ton of news and businesses and what not moved to after being banned from Facebook and various other social network platforms.

    Then there are social media groups. Unfortunately there are not much options but I recommend joining Telegram channels that are part of this conflict like ABS since they got banned off of Twitter.

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:42 am

    Alright I'll give some examples. One I was looking for a video from a priest living in italy who would do talks while walking thru Rome at night particularly one about the covid vaccines. I get a shit ton of videos on WHO and why the vax is safe bleh bleh. Another example is trying to find videos on Russian missile strikes but all I get are pro ukrainian videos.

    It is annoying af and I'm w boomer when it comes to technology. Thanks for the suggestions btw.

    Edit: Had to add thought.
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    Post  Mir Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:33 am

    TMA1 wrote:Alright guys I've had enough. All search engines duckduckgo and even yandex show the same results in videos when it comes to vaccine stuff and especially this conflict. I remember you guys talking about alternatives I need em. This is getting disturbing. I was talking to a friend about this he didnt know what I was talking about. I am not a fan of gnome chompski but his book manufactured consent is spot on. Wtf.

    Someone mentioned an addon and another mentioned a search engine that isnt tailored against dissident narratives. What is out there?

    Startpage. The world's most private search engine.
    https://www.startpage.com

    Hope it helps Smile

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:50 am

    Thanks for the link and I apologize for steering away conversation. I will say this though. I went to start page and put this in "priest walking in rome warns of vaccine". Look at the results yourself. Apparently all search engines have been touched by spirit of censorship. It is messed up. All I got were "priest speaks against covid and congregants leave" or "priest speaking out on vaccine on ventilator" and other such results. Its creepy af.

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    Post  Mir Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:22 am

    Just a note: If you haven't installed Startpage on your PC you can not search directly from a Tab. You will have to open a new page to search "in Startpage". Hope it makes sense, but yes the IT world out there is hugely compromised!

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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:32 am

    So far the Ukrs have made "extensive" use of the HIMARS MLRS and it has served them well as a propaganda tool - even though they refrained from attacking military targets and rather chose civilians and the famous bridge and a dam wall as targets.

    They did launch HIMARS rockets and other rockets and artillery at Russian military targets... but most of those were intercepted and did no damage, so they have used them against civilian targets and their own soldiers in captivity... before they talked they hope...

    This time around the "attack" on Saki was credited towards the "indigenous" Grim-2 missile system which looks somewhat similar to the Iskander.

    Rather less range, which suggests lower flight speed.

    Now I don't want to jinks it, but if this is true, why haven't they followed it up with another Grim-2 attack?

    Would ask the same question about their anti ship missiles that supposedly sank the Moskva...

    If it was me I would have made an attack on Sevastopol or the Crimean Bridge or some other valuable target, just to keep the propaganda machine going.

    There are a lot of serious communications buildings and HQs on Crimea they know the coordinates of that are in charge of the entire Black Sea Fleet which would be a much higher priority than hitting a few old ground attack aircraft and some newer multirole fighterbombers.

    OR did they only manage to fund 2 to 3 missiles with all that new money coming in? If I had an invisible missile that is unstoppable - I would make it rain.

    If they had a missile that could penetrate Russian air defences in Crimea without even being detected the US would pay trillions of dollars to them and shift production to the US...

    We will probably never know the truth as it quite normal for any government to pull a veil of secrecy over these kind of operations.
    Same with the Moskva disaster.

    I am sure after the conflict is over there will be plenty of people who knew what happened who are ready to talk and some official investigation report will be released to give the Russian governments say on the matter.

    They would rather hate Russians for saving Russians in some
    ethno-fascist toilet like "Ukraine" (which they helped establish in 2004 and 2014) than to have affordable energy
    for their economy and for their heating.

    Right now they are prepared for the sacrifice, but a cold winter might change their minds...

    I hope by that stage Russia has closed the German end of NSII and has started work on adding pipes to Kaliningrad.

    Maybe even modify it so one pipe delivers gas and the other pipe has capsules that can be pumped down with normal air pressure as a delivery system for light cargo...

    Put wheels on the capsules all around so it can roll in the pipe and still be blown by the air flow through the pipe...

    I think in one of the James Bond movies they sent an agent through the pipes to get across the border to the west...

    No bro, it is a much more long-lasting issue.
    And the Russians, sorry, have a minor influence to that Laughing
    Europe is getting poorer and poorer.
    That is the point, covered with fancy and staged stats.

    When you do things against your financial and economic interests like the EU does by following US orders then you are bound to find yourself in problems... the US is using the EU to damage Russia... they care about the EU the way a murderer cares about the broken bottle he is slashing his victim with... if it breaks and becomes ineffective then it gets dropped and something else is used to finish the job... the obvious problem is the EU is sugar glass and shatters into bits that do not cut skin... but the bear is just pissed off at getting hit...

    Do you have figures for how effective Russian ATGMs have been in this war in hitting targets?

    I would expect most Orc armour was hit before it was deployed during the first few weeks of the conflict, but 125mm guns likely killed more Orc armour than ATGMs and RPGs, but Soviet era ATGMs have proven effective world wide and in this conflict I would say most Russian Armour is more likely to have been hit or damaged by Soviet era or new Ukrainian Anti armour weapons than western stuff.

    I am just surprised how many attacks they need per bridge to do structural damage.

    If the Russians were going to bring down an Orc bridge I rather suspect Uragan or Smerch would not be any where near the top of their list as weapons of choice... you need aviation bomb level power... so an Iskander perhaps or if you can get close enough 203mm or 240mm calibre artillery... but then Kh-29 with its 320kg HE warhead would also do the job too.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:10 pm

    TMA1 wrote:Alright guys I've had enough. All search engines duckduckgo and even yandex show the same results in videos when it comes to vaccine stuff and especially this conflict. I remember you guys talking about alternatives I need em. This is getting disturbing. I was talking to a friend about this he didnt know what I was talking about. I am not a fan of gnome chompski but his book manufactured consent is spot on. Wtf.

    Someone mentioned an addon and another mentioned a search engine that isnt tailored against dissident narratives. What is out there?

    It is very easy, just go to a "fact checker" and search for "disinformation" sources, they have nicely and for free compiled there for you all the sources that are worth following Razz

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    Post  Arrow Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:27 pm

    https://ejmagnier.com/2022/08/13/russia-buys-1000-drones-from-iran-and-expands-the-level-of-strategic-cooperation/

    On the cooperation of Russia and Iran About in the technology of drones that will be used in the conflict in Ukraine.

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