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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:33 am

    And while not developing, they have sent probes to the Moon and Mars?
    Those British locomotives must have had some extra features.
    How fascinating!

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    Post  GarryB Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:15 am

    You don't slag off a chick you are shagging... part of that golden era for India was telling the pretty girl her hair looks lovely while trying to get into her underwear.

    The British are real pervs though... talking nice to a girl while trying on her clothes... sick...

    Do you think the fact that there is only one letter difference between Devil and Evil is a coincidence?

    Do you think the fact that there is only one letter difference between British and Brutish is a coincidence too?

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:44 am

    Tolstoy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Think of India during the time of the British Raj, India was the Jewel in the Crown of the British Empire, because it could both have its resources stripped and shipped back to London while also being a huge (and guaranteed, competitors need not apply) market for goods exported from Britain.
    That was also the only time when they made any kind of economic or social progress. With the Brits gone the locals failed to govern the country effectively. Something that happened to the ex Soviet countries of Central Asia.

    And it happened in Russia itself, when the aristocracy and Tsarist officials were all run out of town

    It takes time to re-orient the country, to learn from naive mistakes if necessary, to build up new professional cadres

    India accounted for up to 25% of the world's GDP at the beginning of the 18th century. This is before any Brits were there.

    While there are many other reasons why this share plunged over the next 200 years, including the industrial revolution taking hold in Europe and America, and India's share of the world population also decreasing as infant mortality shrunk in more advanced nations - certainly the overarching reason was India's trade, once prolific across Asia - coming under the dictat of the Europeans, with the British specifically, eventually outright taking control of it and deciding on India's economic and social progress according to their own interests. Their own interests being Britain's profits and industrialization. But pursuing such could hardly fulfill India's potential. No-one in India could decide on their own reforms, their own foreign relations, their own priorities for modernization, their own production for their own needs, and the most profitable for them trade priorities.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:01 pm

    Clear evidence that sanctions are biting hard. Laughing Laughing

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    1/ In October, Japan significantly increased exports to the Russian Federation in some areas, including medical products, computer components, cars and engines.

    This is evidenced by the trade statistics of the Ministry of Finance of Japan.

    2/ Thus, the total volume of deliveries to the Russian Federation of medical products increased by 804%, and components for computers - by 340%, while deliveries of computers themselves to Russia decreased by 72.9%.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:02 pm

    GarryB wrote:You don't slag off a chick you are shagging... part of that golden era for India was telling the pretty girl her hair looks lovely while trying to get into her underwear.

    The British are real pervs though... talking nice to a girl while trying on her clothes... sick...

    Do you think the fact that there is only one letter difference between Devil and Evil is a coincidence?

    Do you think the fact that there is only one letter difference between British and Brutish is a coincidence too?

    Lay off the generalisations.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:01 pm

    Looks like dollar dumping is shifting to the next level.
    All that debt is going home, the chickens are going back home to roost, i wonder how this is going affect dollar inflation.
    China and Japan are the 2 biggest debt holders, if i recall, and they both dumping hard.
    Again, this guys doesn't have to full picture, he still thinks the Fed is gonna fight inflation, the fed can't go above 5.5% interest, if they do the U.S economy go's bankrupt, and real inflation is well above 10%, so U.S economy is damned if they do and damned if they don't, chose your poison, i guess.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:52 am

    And it happened in Russia itself, when the aristocracy and Tsarist officials were all run out of town

    It is normal for serious changes in systems to create temporary chaos... Mugabe in Zimbabwe was creating chaos when he gave farmland to soldiers from the civil war... any massive changes in agriculture do serious damage and of course the damage is in food supply, and of course the colonial west claimed he was destroying the country and kept talking about how they used to export food and now they import food... but the system they had was broken and terribly unfair to the people of the country and had to be changed.

    Lay off the generalisations.

    Not very nice I know, but Britain wasn't there because the Indians are children and needed adult supervision as most western critics would suggest... most of the chaos in colonial countries are inflamed by the colonial powers to make it appear these countries don't work without their expert guidance... and obviously the cost of that expert guidance is that the locals remain poor and learn to hate themselves... damn natives... and the colonials skim the benefits and profits from resource rich countries.

    I think my comment about speaking nicely to the chick you are shagging was quite bland because I made it sound consensual when in fact most of the time it is not.

    The rules are different in the third world... western members will cry about Russian children wearing uniforms and going to militarised academies, but we hear nothing about the children sent into diamond mines to scrabble for rocks that end up being worth millions of dollars which they might get a few dollars for finding.

    China is accused of offering loans to poor countries they can't pay back to get them into a debt spiral they cannot escape to control them, yet the irony is that this is what the west has been doing for centuries and China is not actually doing despite the western accusations.

    I understand you don't like that, and I don't like it either.

    In many ways the west has been using the third world as a sweat shop, which means they don't want them to progress or develop because that means they lose their cheap expendable labour force. BRICS is all about lifting other countries up... spreading health and safety as well as work, but not inflicting your ideology on other countries... trade with them but let them make their own choices.

    Look at Qatar with the Soccer world cup... western countries complaining about the treatment of migrant workers building stadiums and alphabet people not being treated as gods and held in high regard... now complaining that alcohol wont be sold at the game venues during matches.

    Perhaps the next world cup the Qatar team can complain about the human rights in that country only allowing a man to marry one woman at a time... and now allowing 13 year olds to get married... and other horrible rights abuses... Rolling Eyes

    Or we could just say soccer is just a sport and not to be used as an instrument to impose western values on other countries.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:07 am

    Some interesting news.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:05 pm

    According to the German industry group, every fourth enterprise may relocate abroad due to rising energy costs and inflation.

    Tanja Gönner, CEO of the Federation of German Industries (BDI), told Die Welt am Sonntag that one in every four German companies is considering moving production to other countries due to the energy crisis.

    "High energy prices and a weakening economy are wreaking havoc on the German economy, putting a significant burden on our companies in comparison to other international locations." The German business model is under severe strain... "Every fourth German company is considering outsourcing production," Gönner stated.

    "The exorbitant energy prices are crushing us...

    "Without a functioning price brake, the government is willingly accepting deindustrialization," he warned, adding that if the chemical industry fails, other industries will follow, which "could be a knockout blow for Germany as a business location."

    He went on to say that German industry requires "structural reforms, most notably the acceleration of planning and approval procedures and de-bureaucratization."
    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus242340497/Unternehmen-in-Energiekrise-Kann-der-K-o-fuer-den-Standort-Deutschland-sein.html


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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:47 am

    Huge opportunity for Russia though... how about that Russian that developed the engine for the Yak-152 but moved production to Germany moves it back to Russia...

    That article says one in four German companies will move abroad, but it does not mention what happens to the three out of four that remain in Germany... do they collapse?

    How many other German companies sick of western politics want to make stuff and get cheap energy... and good infrastructure and skilled educated workforce?
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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:02 pm

    I doubt any production will be moving to Russia with present sanctions. Most likely to US and some countries in Europe like Serbia or even Turkey.
    As for Raikhlin, he could have already moved by now, if he really wanted to. They never even localized a production of the engine and they had more than enough time. Production of RED engines was never located in Russia to begin with.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:50 am

    Well it sounds like they should immediately stop funding that guy and reverse engineer the examples of the engines they have in their possession... they paid for their development so they own them.

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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:09 am

    Company is fully funded and it was a private Russian capital. Finam financed it, not Russian government. For whatever reason localization of production was never done, which is a pity, since it seems like engine designs are very good.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:00 am

    OK then steal the design.

    The west is trying to destroy Russia, why play by their rules when they don't even play by them for themselves?

    Do you think if they got hold of information about hypersonic missile technology that they would respect Russian IP rights and copyright?

    The engines in their helicopters technically belong to Motor Sich to a large degree even if they have updated and improved the design.

    The engine was most likely funded because those providing the money believed the engine would be used in the Yak-152 which made the success of the engine assured which makes it a good investment.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:02 am

    Engine was financed because, at the time, there was a company in Kazan called MVEN, which got liquidated few years ago under suspicious circumstances and workers and part of the production was picked up on the cheap by oligarch Gregoriev ( think UZGA among other things). They had a small plane project similar to US Air tractor ( I don't remember model name). Raikhlin is also from Kazan. At the time, there was a push to build an aviation cluster in Kazan with many start ups in the field. I guess he saw what happened to most of them and went to Germany. It is not excluded that even FINAM, financier of the project, backed him in the endeavor, but that's only me speculating.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:54 pm

    Engine was financed because, at the time, there was a company in Kazan called MVEN, which got liquidated few years ago under suspicious circumstances and workers and part of the production was picked up on the cheap by oligarch Gregoriev ( think UZGA among other things). They had a small plane project similar to US Air tractor ( I don't remember model name). Raikhlin is also from Kazan. At the time, there was a push to build an aviation cluster in Kazan with many start ups in the field. I guess he saw what happened to most of them and went to Germany. It is not excluded that even FINAM, financier of the project, backed him in the endeavor, but that's only me speculating.

    The T-500/Fermer-2

    There were plans to set up production in Kazakhstan or something too. Or maybe that was a different swindler aerospace startup from Kazan.

    Anyway. If the design for the engine is available, pass it on to another Russian company and let them make a copy. Raikhlin and his company can stay in Germany.

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    Post  ludovicense Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:20 pm

    I saw this article where "analyst" tries to give the idea that Russia's energetic trade relations with India will surpass those with China...

    Honestly: I have many doubts... I think it's even unlikely in the foreseeable near future, but there are the arguments...


    http://zububrothers.com/2022/11/30/russias-energy-geopolitics-with-china-india/

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    Post  lancelot Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:35 pm

    Russia has a border with China while trade with India would have to pass through US Navy infested waters. In the long run the trade with China is likely going to be way more stable.

    India is also severely relying on exports of goods and services to, not to mention remittances from, the West. This made then concede in the past to US demands to stop buying oil from Iran. So they are not long term reliable. I hope India will continue its trade relationship with Russia but I would not bet on it.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:13 pm

    @FP
    As soon as some of the smaller companies tried to raise their head in this sector, Rostec or UZGA started to lean on them.
    It is a standard "business" practice in Russia. Even tried on some big players in other sectors.
    Anyway, in the case of RED engine, most they can do is to reverse engineer it, as design was never actually in Russia. As I said, it is my belief that either Raikhlin or Finam went this way (started company in Germany) on purpose.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:21 pm

    India knows the West needs good relations with them more than ever at the moment

    And they have discovered that they have a bargaining position on that basis.

    They're not going to sacrifice trade and cheap energy from Russia in return for.. what exactly?

    While the West is not going to cut itself out of an enormous market on some gamble to pressure India with sanctions

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    Post  Swgman_BK Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:22 pm

    Russia has a border with China while trade with India would have to pass through US Navy infested waters. In the long run the trade with China is likely going to be way more stable. India is also severely relying on exports of goods and services to, not to mention remittances from, the West. This made then concede in the past to US demands to stop buying oil from Iran. So they are not long term reliable. I hope India will continue its trade relationship with Russia but I would not bet on it. wrote:

    Thats why the Caspian sea and Kazakhstan exist. Russia has cultivated networks through Iran and Kazakhstan as well as the other Stans.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:47 pm

    Only Iran. Kazakhstan and other stans are not really connected with India. In any case, everything would have to go through Pakistan and that is not highely likely. So, it will be either via commodity swap with Iran or seaborne via Malacca strait. At present time, Indians are banking on latter.

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    Post  Kiko Wed Nov 30, 2022 10:19 pm

    The Global South Births a New Game-Changing Payment System, by Pepe Escobar for the Unz Review. 11.30.2022.

    The Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU) is speeding up its design of a common payment system, which has been closely discussed for nearly a year with the Chinese under the stewardship of Sergei Glazyev, the EAEU’s minister in charge of Integration and Macro-economy.

    Through its regulatory body, the Eurasian Economic Commission (EEC), the EAEU has just extended a very serious proposal to the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) which, crucially, are already on the way to turning into BRICS+: a sort of G20 of the Global South.

    The system will include a single payment card – in direct competition with Visa and Mastercard – merging the already existing Russian MIR, China’s UnionPay, India’s RuPay, Brazil’s Elo, and others.

    That will represent a direct challenge to the western-designed (and enforced) monetary system, head on. And it comes on the heels of BRICS members already transacting their bilateral trade in local currencies, and bypassing the US dollar.
    This EAEU-BRICS union was long in the making – and will now also move toward prefiguring a further geoeconomic merger with the member nations of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

    The EAEU was established in 2015 as a customs union of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus, joined a year later by Armenia and Kyrgyzstan. Vietnam is already an EAEU free trade partner, and recently enshrined SCO member Iran is also clinching a deal.

    The EAEU is designed to implement free movement of goods, services, capital, and workers between member countries. Ukraine would have been an EAEU member if not for the Maidan coup in 2014 masterminded by the Barack Obama administration.

    Vladimir Kovalyov, adviser to the chairman of the EEC, summed it all up to Russian newspaper Izvestia. The focus is to establish a joint financial market, and the priority is to develop a common “exchange space:” “We’ve made substantial progress and now the work is focused on such sectors as banking, insurance, and the stock market.”

    A new regulatory body for the proposed joint EEU-BRICS financial system will soon be established.

    Meanwhile, trade and economic cooperation between the EAEU and BRICS have increased 1.5 times in the first half of 2022 alone.

    The BRICS share in the total external trade turnover of the EAEU has reached 30 percent, Kovalyov revealed at the BRICS International Business Forum this past Monday in Moscow:

    “It is advisable to combine the potentials of the BRICS and EAEU macro-financial development institutions, in particular the BRICS New Development Bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), as well as national development institutions. This will make it possible to achieve a synergistic effect and ensure synchronous investments in sustainable infrastructure, innovative production, and renewable energy sources.”

    Here we once again see the advancing convergence of not only BRICS and EAEU but also the financial institutions deeply involved in projects under the China-led New Silk Roads, or Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

    Halting the Age of Plunder

    As if all that was not game-changing enough, Russian President Vladimir Putin is raising the stakes by calling for a new international payment system based on blockchain and digital currencies.

    The project for such a system was recently presented at the 1st Eurasian Economic Forum in Bishkek.

    At the forum, the EAEU approved a draft agreement on cross-border placement and circulation of securities in member states, and amended technical regulations.

    The next big step is to organize the agenda of a crucial meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council on 14 December in Moscow. Putin will be there – in person. And there’s nothing he would love more than to make a game-changing announcement.

    All of these moves acquire even more importance as they connect to fast increasing, interlocking trade between Russia, China, India, and Iran: from Russia’s drive to build new pipelines serving its Chinese market – to Russia, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan discussing a gas union for both domestic supplies and exports, especially to main client China.

    Slowly but surely, what is emerging is the Big Picture of an irretrievably fractured world featuring a dual trade/circulation system: one will be revolving around the remnants of the dollar system, the other is being built centered on the association of BRICS, EAEU, and SCO.

    Pushing further on down the road, the recent pathetic metaphor coined by a tawdry Eurocrat boss: the “jungle” is breaking away from the “garden” with a vengeance. May the fracture persist, as a new international payment system – and then a new currency – will aim to halt for good the western-centric Age of Plunder.

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/the-global-south-births-a-new-game-changing-payment-system/

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    Post  ludovicense Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:49 pm

    This movement is much bigger than you can imagine... it could break the US. The economy of the Americans is financed by the bonds that they sell in the world, since they have monthly budget deficits... With the new system of payments based on several currencies, the demand for the dollar will drop drastically because it is certain that, when the system is working, countries of the Africa, South America and the Middle East will flock to it. The confiscation of Russian reserves was a mistake, but they did it because they believed it would crash the Russian economy. Once again the economic analysts failed and now the achievements are starting to come... no one trusts the Dollar / Euro anymore....

    Bearing in mind that without the sale of securities, the US would simply be left to print money, which would generate uncontrolled inflation, or make massive cutbacks in spending to balance the accounts, which would imply huge cuts in the values of the military industrial complex.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:08 pm

    https://ria.ru/20221104/zapad-1829063311.html

    08:00 04.11.2022 (updated: 08:12 04.11.2022)
    The West is waiting for the collapse of Russia

    Victoria Nikiforova

    According to our Western partners, we are finished. Well, that is, formally, we are still giving some signs of life. But it is worth a little more patience, tightening your belts, skipping, as the British say, another meal - and here it is happiness: the recalcitrant Russian "regime" is finally collapsing.

    "What could demolish Putin?" asks American political scientist Daniel Treisman, and scatters a whole assortment of disaster movie scenarios in front of Foreign Affairs readers. One, however, he has to step back from the threshold. There will be no military coup, "most likely". Thank you, you are our benefactor, and on this as well.

    Nevertheless, Treisman is trying to convince himself and the public that Russia's "collapse" will happen after all. It is useful to read his scripts - who, if not a strategic adversary, will see our pain points best of all?

    The main point on which the author presses is the so-called vertical of power. Centralized management, Treisman believes, may not withstand an avalanche of stresses. Here the author sketches a whole apocalypse for Russia with bold, broad strokes. At one point, the stars will converge in such a way that failures on the Ukrainian front will aggravate intra-elite conflicts, at the same time a number of failed economic decisions will be made, budget revenues will decrease, protests against mobilization will go, and in parallel - strikes and demonstrations of workers.

    Then there will be a "cascade of errors" in the control system, and the authorities will lose control over the country. This is a bad prospect for us, of course.

    But what kind of failures at the front can we talk about if Russia has already grown vast territories and millions of wonderful people? The mobilization was successful, its shortcomings will undoubtedly become an occasion for further improvements in the army, but today it has already been completed.

    As for economic decisions: our economists, to be honest, have earned themselves several Nobel Prizes over the past eight months. Of course, there were budget losses, but now we can clearly see why the "safety cushion" has been accumulating all these years.

    As for strikes and demonstrations: here the author just needs to go out into the street where he lives there, in Harvard? And watch how American workers of all skin tones buzz. He certainly did not mix up the country?

    Treisman is forced to admit: "catastrophe (in Russia) is not inevitable." But if it happens - and here our writer again dives into painfully voluptuous dreams: defeats at the front, large-scale protests, the activity of criminal groups - the author pumps everything cooler, but suddenly dries up. This whole postap will lead, in his opinion, only to a fall in Putin's rating. The President will decide not to participate in the 2024 elections, will nominate his successor, this will lead to an aggravation of the intra-elite struggle. The outcome of the 2024 elections will become unpredictable, the author sums up.

    But yes, baby, this is a democracy. The result of the elections should be unpredictable. And no, democracy is not when the US Democratic Party or its protege wins all elections. It's hard to believe this, I understand.

    Starting on a high note - now I will describe the collapse of Russia - the author, by the logic of his narrative, comes only to the well-known fact that in 2024 presidential elections will be held in Russia. Thank you, we already knew that.

    A more serious analysis of the situation - how can we still put the squeeze on Russia - is offered by Treisman's colleagues literally on the neighboring pages of Foreign Affairs. Andrea Kendall-Taylor and Michael Kofman inform us that "Russia will not leave without a fight."

    Through their mouths, official Washington is trying to record its victories on the economic front and calculate how long it will take for the complete and final defeat of Russia.

    First, sanctions. Yes, until they gave the effect they were designed for. However, here we must look to the future and continue to put pressure. Russia will feel the real damage from them later (we have already heard this somewhere). For now, it is necessary to continue blocking the export of technology to the country, seeking the collapse of its automotive, aircraft manufacturing and defense industries.

    Secondly, Europe's rejection of Russian energy carriers, a ban on Russian tanker insurance, and an oil price ceiling would significantly reduce budget revenues from energy sales and limit Moscow's ability to bargain with India and China.

    And finally, the outflow of programmers and techies from Russia will limit the country's competitiveness for years to come.

    “There will most likely not be a total collapse,” the authors argue. “However, Russia will plunge into decline, autarky and isolation from the world economy for many years. The Kremlin will become desperate and will ... violate the rules by which global trade operates.”

    If we translate this into human language, it turns out that Moscow will, of course, bypass Western sanctions, build and develop its commercial alliances and partnerships around the world. Along with economic influence comes political influence. By the very force of things, this will violate those notorious "rules" that Washington so insists on, because they allow him to plunder the whole world in one person.

    American authors call this the decline of Russia. To any open-minded reader, this appears to be building up an alternative center of power.

    As for the "delayed effect" of the sanctions. Yes, this should not be taken lightly. Deficiencies in high-tech industries are real and dangerous. Of course, it is impossible to replace imports in general. However, the magic schemes of parallel imports can help a lot here.

    Technical runners will, for the most part, be back. In the countries where they fled, to put it mildly, it is not very good with work, and remote work has become less and less popular lately. Together we will raise the country, circumvent sanctions, develop our high technologies.

    It is also comforting that we have heard all these mantras about the decline of Russia many times before. In 2015, Mr. Obama told the city, so to speak, and the world that "Russia's economy is in tatters." Today, this can be said more about the US economy. Let's just keep silent about the European economy - it's either good or nothing about the dead.

    The further you read your American colleagues, the more clearly you hear a purely Ukrainian question behind all their beautiful words: when is Russia already done? Well, just about, well, yesterday it should have collapsed, collapsed, decentralized, come to insignificance. But no, the stone flower does not come out.

    Americans should look at the experience of their Ukrainian brothers. For many years - in fact, it all started 30 years ago - they console themselves with the hope that Russia is about to collapse and fall apart. Under these spells, more than one generation of people living in extreme poverty has grown up. Every year they live worse and worse. Today it is simply a failed state, where the only hope for survival is the Russian humanitarian aid.

    Russia in parallel did nothing but grow rich and develop. The dogs barked - the caravan moved on.

    Now exactly the same story is happening at the global level. The masses of the former golden billion are impoverished faster than during the Great Depression. The English skip meals. The Swiss buy firewood at crazy prices. The government teaches the Estonians to save on food - for some reason, the memory is especially etched "the best drink to quench your thirst is plain water."

    All the seemingly ridiculous Davos predictions about showers once a week, 100 grams of chicken and "I have nothing, but I've never been so happy" come true with frightening speed. And even America, which is trying to prolong its prosperity at the expense of Europeans, is already being overwhelmed by a tsunami of poverty and depression.

    Traditionally, when people get poorer in the States, they vote for the Democrats - they unfasten some benefits, keep the lower classes of society afloat. Today, the US economy is so bad that people go to vote for the Republicans - in the hope that at least they will fix something.

    A fresh fact from the criminal chronicle well illustrates the scale of the economic problems of Americans. The other day, a married couple from Oklahoma committed suicide after shooting six of their children - from one to 13 years old. Relatives say that the main problem of a large family was loans - debts accumulated for 130 thousand dollars, there was no way to pay them back.

    In general, the trend is clearly visible. The worse the country lives, the louder it promises Russia decline and collapse. This applies not only to Ukraine, but also to its Western partners. At some point, they go headlong into these mriyas, just not to see what is happening in their own countries.

    In the meantime, the main economic problem in Russia, judging by the discussions in social networks, has become the question: should we spend millions of rubles on multi-day New Year's entertainment in megacities, or is it still slightly reduced?

    In this regard, it seems very wise to work out the possibility of visa-free entry into Russia for foreigners. It would be great if people could shake the propaganda noodles out of their ears for at least a few days, come to us and look at our "decline" with their own eyes.

    "Don't rush to bury us," I would like to say to our strategic partners. Not even an hour while you wait for the collapse of Russia, it will cover your own countries. What will you hope for then, for the Russian humanitarian aid? We will help, of course, not the first time. Delicious buckwheat is cooked in our field kitchens.

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